WTF happened to it!?

It's disappeared. At least, around here. Neither Walmart nor City
Market (Krogers) stores carry 'em. Not even the more common
apricot/pineapple. In fact, our local Walmart has the worst choice in
jams/jellies I've seen anywhere. Even Safeway, with the best
selection, does not carry either pineapple or apricot/pineapple from
both Mary Ellen and Smuckers, though both still make 'em. Saveway DID
have an apricto/pineapple house brand.

The only pineapple jam I found was Kowzlowki Farms, at Safeway, a
rather pricey boutique preserve outta Sonoma Valley CA. Surprised
they've grown big enough to export outta CA. I usta buy 'em when they
were only available in the SFBA. Their blackberry still has seeds!


Oh well, at least I found some. Gotta have it for my fave ham glaze,
Jezebel sauce. Yum!

BTW, all stores, here, seem to be lousy with marmalade. I remember
when marmalade was the dark horse preserve, appearing only rarely on
mkt shelves. Now, all stores seem to have half dozen brands of orange
marmalade on their shelves. Go figure.

nb

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:10:36 AM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
>
> BTW, all stores, here, seem to be lousy with marmalade. I remember
> when marmalade was the dark horse preserve, appearing only rarely on
> mkt shelves. Now, all stores seem to have half dozen brands of orange
> marmalade on their shelves. Go figure.
>
> nb

Unfortunately most of what's labeled as marmalade
is what I'd call orange jam. It's sweet, no
bitterness and no Seville oranges in sight.
Good, true marmalade is still extremely
difficult to find.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 8/22/2013 12:02 PM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:10:36 AM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
>>
>> BTW, all stores, here, seem to be lousy with marmalade. I remember
>> when marmalade was the dark horse preserve, appearing only rarely on
>> mkt shelves. Now, all stores seem to have half dozen brands of orange
>> marmalade on their shelves. Go figure.
>>
>> nb
>
> Unfortunately most of what's labeled as marmalade
> is what I'd call orange jam. It's sweet, no
> bitterness and no Seville oranges in sight.
> Good, true marmalade is still extremely
> difficult to find.
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com
>
Practically all real marmalade in US markets is imported: Keiller's
Hartley's etc. are good but usually very expensive. A very good Seville
Orange Marmalade is sold by Trader Joe's and is reasonably priced. I
don't remember whether it is made here or imported.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On 22/08/2013 12:02 PM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:10:36 AM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
>>
>> BTW, all stores, here, seem to be lousy with marmalade. I remember
>> when marmalade was the dark horse preserve, appearing only rarely on
>> mkt shelves. Now, all stores seem to have half dozen brands of orange
>> marmalade on their shelves. Go figure.
>>
>> nb
>
> Unfortunately most of what's labeled as marmalade
> is what I'd call orange jam. It's sweet, no
> bitterness and no Seville oranges in sight.




You need to change your user name from Helpful Person to Misinformation
Queen.


> Good, true marmalade is still extremely
> difficult to find.


It's not hard to find. It tends to be expensive.It is easy to make.

On 22 Aug 2013 14:10:36 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> WTF happened to it!?
>
> It's disappeared.

So has my recipe for Pineapple Orange Marmalade (made with fresh
pineapple, not canned) that has a hint of Grand Mariner in it. It's
the best danged marmalade ever and I live in fervent hope that it will
turn up one of these days.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:02:04 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> wrote:

> Unfortunately most of what's labeled as marmalade
> is what I'd call orange jam. It's sweet, no
> bitterness

Trader Joe's has a good Seville orange marmalade. It's not as zippy
as I'd like, but it's better than most of the commercial crud you'll
find on the shelf.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:40:31 -0400, James Silverton
> wrote:

> A very good Seville
> Orange Marmalade is sold by Trader Joe's and is reasonably priced. I
> don't remember whether it is made here or imported.

I have a jar in the refrigerator, let me go look.... mine says:
Product of Canada.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 8/22/2013 5:29 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:40:31 -0400, James Silverton
> > wrote:
>
>> A very good Seville
>> Orange Marmalade is sold by Trader Joe's and is reasonably priced. I
>> don't remember whether it is made here or imported.
>
> I have a jar in the refrigerator, let me go look.... mine says:
> Product of Canada.
>
TJ's used to sell Keiller's at a decent price. They have replaced it
with the Seville Orange Marmalade but I do not detect any difference or
inferiority. At least it's made on this continent.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:24:56 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On 22 Aug 2013 14:10:36 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> WTF happened to it!?
>>
>> It's disappeared.
>
>So has my recipe for Pineapple Orange Marmalade (made with fresh
>pineapple, not canned) that has a hint of Grand Mariner in it. It's
>the best danged marmalade ever and I live in fervent hope that it will
>turn up one of these days.

I hate when that happens. The simplest would be if the recipe is
mis-filed (never happens) It takes years for a lost recipe to turn
up. Sometimes as a bookmark in a cookbook. Stupid cook did that.
Good luck because I would love to have a look at that recipe. I don't
suppose that you ever shared it online so that you can look it up. I
recaptured a bread recipe that way.
Janet US

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:29:15 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

> I don't
> suppose that you ever shared it online so that you can look it up. I
> recaptured a bread recipe that way.

Unfortunately, I don't think I did. Christine recovered my chocolate
gelato recipe for me - mainly because her Google foo is better than
mine.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:10:36 AM UTC-7, notbob wrote:
> WTF happened to it!?
>
>
>
> It's disappeared. At least, around here. Neither Walmart nor City
>
> Market (Krogers) stores carry 'em. Not even the more common
>
> apricot/pineapple. In fact, our local Walmart has the worst choice in
>
> jams/jellies I've seen anywhere. Even Safeway, with the best
>
> selection, does not carry either pineapple or apricot/pineapple from
>
> both Mary Ellen and Smuckers, though both still make 'em. Saveway DID
>
> have an apricto/pineapple house brand.
>
>
>
> The only pineapple jam I found was Kowzlowki Farms, at Safeway, a
>
> rather pricey boutique preserve outta Sonoma Valley CA. Surprised
>
> they've grown big enough to export outta CA. I usta buy 'em when they
>
> were only available in the SFBA. Their blackberry still has seeds!
>
>
>
>
>
> Oh well, at least I found some. Gotta have it for my fave ham glaze,
>
> Jezebel sauce. Yum!
>
>
>
> BTW, all stores, here, seem to be lousy with marmalade. I remember
>
> when marmalade was the dark horse preserve, appearing only rarely on
>
> mkt shelves. Now, all stores seem to have half dozen brands of orange
>
> marmalade on their shelves. Go figure.
>
>
>
> nb

Make your own! I recently made apricot pineapple, which is a family favorite.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 22 Aug 2013 14:10:36 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> > WTF happened to it!?
> >
> > It's disappeared.
>
> So has my recipe for Pineapple Orange Marmalade (made with fresh
> pineapple, not canned) that has a hint of Grand Mariner in it. It's
> the best danged marmalade ever and I live in fervent hope that it will
> turn up one of these days.

I made that last year; I'll see if I've still got the recipe in the
pantry. Unfortunately I made it with canned pineapple and it wasn't
impressive enough to repeat; still got two jars left.

Janet UK

On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 08:32:08 +0100, Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On 22 Aug 2013 14:10:36 GMT, notbob > wrote:
> >
> > > WTF happened to it!?
> > >
> > > It's disappeared.
> >
> > So has my recipe for Pineapple Orange Marmalade (made with fresh
> > pineapple, not canned) that has a hint of Grand Mariner in it. It's
> > the best danged marmalade ever and I live in fervent hope that it will
> > turn up one of these days.
>
> I made that last year; I'll see if I've still got the recipe in the
> pantry. Unfortunately I made it with canned pineapple and it wasn't
> impressive enough to repeat; still got two jars left.
>
Thanks - I've found lots of orange-pineapple marmalade recipes, but
they weren't close to what I made. It used an entire fresh pineapple,
but Grand Marnier (just a couple of tablespoons) was the secret
ingredient. I forgot to add it one year and noticed the difference.
It was MUCH better with the GM than without.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 08:32:08 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > On 22 Aug 2013 14:10:36 GMT, notbob > wrote:
> > >
> > > > WTF happened to it!?
> > > >
> > > > It's disappeared.
> > >
> > > So has my recipe for Pineapple Orange Marmalade (made with fresh
> > > pineapple, not canned) that has a hint of Grand Mariner in it. It's
> > > the best danged marmalade ever and I live in fervent hope that it will
> > > turn up one of these days.
> >
> > I made that last year; I'll see if I've still got the recipe in the
> > pantry. Unfortunately I made it with canned pineapple and it wasn't
> > impressive enough to repeat; still got two jars left.

Can;t find recipe; probably threw it out.
> >
> Thanks - I've found lots of orange-pineapple marmalade recipes, but
> they weren't close to what I made. It used an entire fresh pineapple,
> but Grand Marnier (just a couple of tablespoons) was the secret
> ingredient. I forgot to add it one year and noticed the difference.
> It was MUCH better with the GM than without.

Most years I make one batch of Scotch whisky marmalade, that's pretty
good too :-) None this year because someone had finished the bottle.

Janet UK

On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:42:46 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> Most years I make one batch of Scotch whisky marmalade, that's pretty
> good too :-)

I've read that's a good one but have never tasted it, so I'm just
going by hearsay. The BBC recipe I pulled up for it calls for Seville
oranges, they have a very short season here and I've only purchased
them once... but I do have a can of (for lack of better terminology
without getting up and actually looking at what the can says)
"marmalade starter", so I could follow the directions for that and
just add whiskey to it.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:42:46 +0100, Janet > wrote:
> >
> > Most years I make one batch of Scotch whisky marmalade, that's pretty
> > good too :-)
>
> I've read that's a good one but have never tasted it, so I'm just
> going by hearsay. The BBC recipe I pulled up for it calls for Seville
> oranges, they have a very short season here

Same here; three weeks in January at best. Last January there was a
crop shortage; my local smkt on the island had none so had to go to the
mainland for some, which is how I ended up with not enough sevlille
oranges but a great deal on reduced red grapefruit. I used both and its
delish.
Seville are so bitter and pippy you couldn't eat a fresh one. But the
best/ fantastic for marmalade.


and I've only purchased
> them once... but I do have a can of (for lack of better terminology
> without getting up and actually looking at what the can says)
> "marmalade starter", so I could follow the directions for that and
> just add whiskey to it.

Bah! They sell canned "marmalade starter" here too, I spit upon the
crap made from it. Better to drink the Scotch neat and be too drunk to
notice the crap marmalade.

Janet UK

On 8/24/2013 8:49 AM, Janet wrote:

> Same here; three weeks in January at best. Last January there was a
> crop shortage; my local smkt on the island had none so had to go to the
> mainland for some, which is how I ended up with not enough sevlille
> oranges but a great deal on reduced red grapefruit. I used both and its
> delish.
> Seville are so bitter and pippy you couldn't eat a fresh one. But the
> best/ fantastic for marmalade.
>

I'm curious, do you make marmalade from lemons?

They only kind I've found in my travels includes pear which I really
dislike and was wondering if there's some reason you don't see lemon.

nancy

In article >,
says...
>
> On 8/24/2013 8:49 AM, Janet wrote:
>
> > Same here; three weeks in January at best. Last January there was a
> > crop shortage; my local smkt on the island had none so had to go to the
> > mainland for some, which is how I ended up with not enough sevlille
> > oranges but a great deal on reduced red grapefruit. I used both and its
> > delish.
> > Seville are so bitter and pippy you couldn't eat a fresh one. But the
> > best/ fantastic for marmalade.
> >
>
> I'm curious, do you make marmalade from lemons?

I've never made it entirely from lemon (though you can, and it's sold
in smkts here). But I have made half-and-half lemon and orange
marmalade, very nice, and even my so-called "orange marmalade" includes
a whole lemon.

If I want to taste all-lemon, I make lemon curd.

Janet UK

On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 13:49:10 +0100, Janet > wrote:

> Bah! They sell canned "marmalade starter" here too, I spit upon the
> crap made from it. Better to drink the Scotch neat and be too drunk to
> notice the crap marmalade.

<sigh> Now you tell me! Well, I have a can of it that I'll convert
into marmalade someday.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 8/24/2013 9:39 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On 8/24/2013 8:49 AM, Janet wrote:
>>
>>> Same here; three weeks in January at best. Last January there was a
>>> crop shortage; my local smkt on the island had none so had to go to the
>>> mainland for some, which is how I ended up with not enough sevlille
>>> oranges but a great deal on reduced red grapefruit. I used both and its
>>> delish.
>>> Seville are so bitter and pippy you couldn't eat a fresh one. But the
>>> best/ fantastic for marmalade.
>>>
>>
>> I'm curious, do you make marmalade from lemons?
>
> I've never made it entirely from lemon (though you can, and it's sold
> in smkts here). But I have made half-and-half lemon and orange
> marmalade, very nice, and even my so-called "orange marmalade" includes
> a whole lemon.
>
> If I want to taste all-lemon, I make lemon curd.
>

I've tried lemon marmalade from Britain and also mixed citrus and they
are not bad but I miss the bitterness of Seville oranges. Hero of
Switzerland makes both sweet and bitter orange marmalade but the bitter
is better!


--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On 8/24/2013 9:39 AM, Janet wrote:>

> says...

>> I'm curious, do you make marmalade from lemons?
>
> I've never made it entirely from lemon (though you can, and it's sold
> in smkts here). But I have made half-and-half lemon and orange
> marmalade, very nice, and even my so-called "orange marmalade" includes
> a whole lemon.
>
> If I want to taste all-lemon, I make lemon curd.

I do love lemon curd, pretty much anything lemon. At the same time
I love the texture of marmalade and was wondering it there is some
reason it doesn't work. I am going to try it. Thanks.

nancy

On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 11:39:42 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 8/24/2013 9:39 AM, Janet wrote:>
>
> > says...
>
> >> I'm curious, do you make marmalade from lemons?
> >
> > I've never made it entirely from lemon (though you can, and it's sold
> > in smkts here). But I have made half-and-half lemon and orange
> > marmalade, very nice, and even my so-called "orange marmalade" includes
> > a whole lemon.
> >
> > If I want to taste all-lemon, I make lemon curd.
>
>I do love lemon curd, pretty much anything lemon. At the same time
>I love the texture of marmalade and was wondering it there is some
>reason it doesn't work. I am going to try it. Thanks.
>
>nancy

James Keller makes Dundee Orange Marmalade. I am pretty sure that I
have seen their Lemon Marmalade.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

"Janet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On 8/24/2013 8:49 AM, Janet wrote:
>>
>> > Same here; three weeks in January at best. Last January there was a
>> > crop shortage; my local smkt on the island had none so had to go to
>> > the
>> > mainland for some, which is how I ended up with not enough sevlille
>> > oranges but a great deal on reduced red grapefruit. I used both and its
>> > delish.
>> > Seville are so bitter and pippy you couldn't eat a fresh one. But
>> > the
>> > best/ fantastic for marmalade.
>> >
>>
>> I'm curious, do you make marmalade from lemons?
>
> I've never made it entirely from lemon (though you can, and it's sold
> in smkts here). But I have made half-and-half lemon and orange
> marmalade, very nice, and even my so-called "orange marmalade" includes
> a whole lemon.
>
> If I want to taste all-lemon, I make lemon curd.
>
I used to buy lemon & lavender marmalade when I viisited the UK but the
brand is no longer available.
Graham

On 8/24/2013 1:04 PM, The Cook wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 11:39:42 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:

>> I do love lemon curd, pretty much anything lemon. At the same time
>> I love the texture of marmalade and was wondering it there is some
>> reason it doesn't work. I am going to try it. Thanks.

> James Keller makes Dundee Orange Marmalade. I am pretty sure that I
> have seen their Lemon Marmalade.

I didn't have any luck finding it, though I see they have ginger
preserves I might order. Thanks!

nancy

In article >, says...
>
> "Janet" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >>
> >> On 8/24/2013 8:49 AM, Janet wrote:
> >>
> >> > Same here; three weeks in January at best. Last January there was a
> >> > crop shortage; my local smkt on the island had none so had to go to
> >> > the
> >> > mainland for some, which is how I ended up with not enough sevlille
> >> > oranges but a great deal on reduced red grapefruit. I used both and its
> >> > delish.
> >> > Seville are so bitter and pippy you couldn't eat a fresh one. But
> >> > the
> >> > best/ fantastic for marmalade.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I'm curious, do you make marmalade from lemons?
> >
> > I've never made it entirely from lemon (though you can, and it's sold
> > in smkts here). But I have made half-and-half lemon and orange
> > marmalade, very nice, and even my so-called "orange marmalade" includes
> > a whole lemon.
> >
> > If I want to taste all-lemon, I make lemon curd.
> >
> I used to buy lemon & lavender marmalade when I viisited the UK but the
> brand is no longer available.
> Graham

Should be pretty easy to make, (but I dislike lavender in food).
Tastes like eating old ladies.

Janet UK

On 8/22/2013 10:10 AM, notbob wrote:
> WTF happened to it!?
>
> It's disappeared. At least, around here. Neither Walmart nor City


An American brand called Smuckers has Pineapple jam in the Toronto Suburbs.


Was at the farmer's market today and saw Strawberry Balsamic Jam.
Interesting combination. I wish I had bought it to try.

On 24/08/2013 5:32 PM, Janet wrote:

>> I used to buy lemon & lavender marmalade when I viisited the UK but the
>> brand is no longer available.
>> Graham
>
> Should be pretty easy to make, (but I dislike lavender in food).
> Tastes like eating old ladies.
>
> Janet UK
>



Depends




;-)

In article > ,
Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 08:32:08 +0100, Janet > wrote:
> >
> > > In article >,
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > > On 22 Aug 2013 14:10:36 GMT, notbob > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > WTF happened to it!?
> > > > >
> > > > > It's disappeared.
> > > >
> > > > So has my recipe for Pineapple Orange Marmalade (made with fresh
> > > > pineapple, not canned) that has a hint of Grand Mariner in it. It's
> > > > the best danged marmalade ever and I live in fervent hope that it will
> > > > turn up one of these days.
> > >
> > > I made that last year; I'll see if I've still got the recipe in the
> > > pantry. Unfortunately I made it with canned pineapple and it wasn't
> > > impressive enough to repeat; still got two jars left.
>
> Can;t find recipe; probably threw it out.
> > >
> > Thanks - I've found lots of orange-pineapple marmalade recipes, but
> > they weren't close to what I made. It used an entire fresh pineapple,
> > but Grand Marnier (just a couple of tablespoons) was the secret
> > ingredient. I forgot to add it one year and noticed the difference.
> > It was MUCH better with the GM than without.
>
> Most years I make one batch of Scotch whisky marmalade, that's pretty
> good too :-) None this year because someone had finished the bottle.

and the stores were out.

--
Michael Press

In article >,
says...
>
> In article > ,
> Janet > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 08:32:08 +0100, Janet > wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article >,
> > > > says...
> > > > >
> > > > > On 22 Aug 2013 14:10:36 GMT, notbob > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > WTF happened to it!?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's disappeared.
> > > > >
> > > > > So has my recipe for Pineapple Orange Marmalade (made with fresh
> > > > > pineapple, not canned) that has a hint of Grand Mariner in it. It's
> > > > > the best danged marmalade ever and I live in fervent hope that it will
> > > > > turn up one of these days.
> > > >
> > > > I made that last year; I'll see if I've still got the recipe in the
> > > > pantry. Unfortunately I made it with canned pineapple and it wasn't
> > > > impressive enough to repeat; still got two jars left.
> >
> > Can;t find recipe; probably threw it out.
> > > >
> > > Thanks - I've found lots of orange-pineapple marmalade recipes, but
> > > they weren't close to what I made. It used an entire fresh pineapple,
> > > but Grand Marnier (just a couple of tablespoons) was the secret
> > > ingredient. I forgot to add it one year and noticed the difference.
> > > It was MUCH better with the GM than without.
> >
> > Most years I make one batch of Scotch whisky marmalade, that's pretty
> > good too :-) None this year because someone had finished the bottle.
>
> and the stores were out.

Neither of us drinks whisky and we never buy it. But we usually have
some in the house which we were given. This is Scotland :-)

Janet UK

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:29:15 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> > wrote:
>
>> I don't
>> suppose that you ever shared it online so that you can look it up. I
>> recaptured a bread recipe that way.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't think I did. Christine recovered my chocolate
> gelato recipe for me - mainly because her Google foo is better than
> mine.
>

Does this look anything like your recipe?
http://www.recipecottage.com/preserv...marmalade.html

Mike

On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 20:42:53 +0800, "Bloke Down The Pub"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:29:15 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I don't
> >> suppose that you ever shared it online so that you can look it up. I
> >> recaptured a bread recipe that way.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I don't think I did. Christine recovered my chocolate
> > gelato recipe for me - mainly because her Google foo is better than
> > mine.
> >
>
> Does this look anything like your recipe?
> http://www.recipecottage.com/preserv...marmalade.html
>

That recipe is a conserve, not marmalade. Mine used more oranges and
no raisins or almonds. I like the idea of adding ginger, so I think
I'll add some grated fresh ginger along with the Grand Marnier and use
this recipe (minus the commercial pectin)
http://www.thecafesucrefarine.com/20...efinitely.html
Thanks!

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.