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Michel Boucher wrote:
> > Dave Smith > wrote in news:URuSt.106503 > : > > >>> Make potato-leek soup. > >> > >> aka Vichyssoise. > >> > > avec creme. > > Who would be silly enough to not make it with cream? I suppose you > could make a broth...*shudder* The one time I made it using the NY Times Cookbook recipe, blending it to mush then chilled did not appeal to me. I kept it chunky and ate it hot. I loved it. There were no leftovers to chill. ![]() G. |
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Michel Boucher wrote:
> > I once had a chef argue that vichyssoise is made with green onions, > not leek. I have found nothing so far to support that. Mind you, > in the immortal words of Mr. Fromkiss, my wife and I are a busy > man, so I haven't spent a lot of time researching this. Maybe not in an expensive restaurant but, made at home, plain yellow onions will do fine. Leeks are overrated and too expensive IMO. Same thing with green onions and shallots too. They're just onions! G. |
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On 8/26/2013 11:21 AM, Gary wrote:
> Michel Boucher wrote: >> >> I once had a chef argue that vichyssoise is made with green onions, >> not leek. I have found nothing so far to support that. Mind you, >> in the immortal words of Mr. Fromkiss, my wife and I are a busy >> man, so I haven't spent a lot of time researching this. > > Maybe not in an expensive restaurant but, made at home, plain yellow > onions will do fine. Leeks are overrated and too expensive IMO. Same > thing with green onions and shallots too. They're just onions! > > G. > Oh no! Leeks do taste different than onions. Each has its place in cooking. I would not eat a raw leek but braised leeks are good and, of course, raw red and green onions can be good. -- Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD) Extraneous "not." in Reply To. |
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Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > I hate all cream-of soups. I don't mind some potato in a vegetable > soup but I don't like a potato soup... just potato with a bit of mild > onion flavor is boring. Got to respectfully disagree with you there, Sheldon. Jerry Avins once posted a potato soup recipe with onions in another ng. It sounded boring to me but I happened to have all the ingredients so I made a batch. One of the best soups I'd ever tried....and the recipe was so simple. G. |
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On 26/08/2013 10:06 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
> Dave Smith > wrote in > : > >> It is the cold cream that makes it Vichyssoise. Otherwise it >> is just leek and potato soup. > > I would think the leek and potatoes are also necessary, and a good > vegetable broth. > > I once had a chef argue that vichyssoise is made with green onions, > not leek. Just one chef? Heaven forbid there is a chance that he is wrong. Some people are sometimes. I had a cousin who lived in Detroit and visited our grandparents in Toronto frequently. He argued that Toronto could not expand because of permafrost. > I have found nothing so far to support that. Every recipe I have seen calls for leeks, but not all require potatoes. |
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On 26/08/2013 11:29 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>> > Oh no! Leeks do taste different than onions. Each has its place in > cooking. I would not eat a raw leek but braised leeks are good and, of > course, raw red and green onions can be good. > Leeks, spanish onion, scallions, cooking onions, chives all have similar qualities. They are not interchangeable. |
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Gary > wrote in :
> Leeks are overrated and too expensive IMO. Same > thing with green onions and shallots too. They're just onions! I cannot eat onions but I can eat leeks in moderation, so they are not the same. -- Traditions are group efforts to keep the unexpected from happening. -- Barbara Tober |
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Dave Smith > wrote in
: >> I once had a chef argue that vichyssoise is made with green >> onions, not leek. > > Just one chef? Heaven forbid there is a chance that he is > wrong. Some people are sometimes. I had a cousin who lived in > Detroit and visited our grandparents in Toronto frequently. He > argued that Toronto could not expand because of permafrost. I never heward that or read that from anyone else. -- Traditions are group efforts to keep the unexpected from happening. -- Barbara Tober |
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Gary > wrote in :
> The one time I made it using the NY Times Cookbook recipe, > blending it to mush then chilled did not appeal to me. I kept > it chunky and ate it hot. Nonetheless, you should try it. Mind you, you take out a portion of the soup to mush, not the entire thing. When I make it, there are pieces of potato and the mushed potatoes serve to smooth out the creamy part. And cold is the way it is meant to be eaten. Reminds me of Rimmer in Red Dwarf who was laughed at at the Captain's table because he complained his gazpacho was cold and asked the cook to heat it up for him. -- Traditions are group efforts to keep the unexpected from happening. -- Barbara Tober |
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On 8/26/2013 11:48 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 26/08/2013 11:29 AM, James Silverton wrote: > >>> >> Oh no! Leeks do taste different than onions. Each has its place in >> cooking. I would not eat a raw leek but braised leeks are good and, of >> course, raw red and green onions can be good. >> > > > Leeks, spanish onion, scallions, cooking onions, chives all have similar > qualities. They are not interchangeable. > Nope, they aren't interchangeable. They may be related species-wise but to me they taste decidedly different. Perhaps one needs a more discerning palate to taste the difference. I never thought of myself that way, but perhaps it's true. I could definitely taste the difference in a leek vs. green onions in potato-leek soup. Jill |
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On 8/26/2013 11:34 AM, Gary wrote:
> Brooklyn1 wrote: >> >> I hate all cream-of soups. I don't mind some potato in a vegetable >> soup but I don't like a potato soup... just potato with a bit of mild >> onion flavor is boring. > > Got to respectfully disagree with you there, Sheldon. Jerry Avins > once posted a potato soup recipe with onions in another ng. It > sounded boring to me but I happened to have all the ingredients so I > made a batch. One of the best soups I'd ever tried....and the recipe > was so simple. > > G. > Sheldon doesn't like cream anything. Too bad. I happen to love cream soups. Even if they don't contain cream. ![]() butternut squash soup is really nice. It might even be good cold, I just don't like cold soups. Jill |
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Michel Boucher wrote:
> > Gary > wrote in : > > > The one time I made it using the NY Times Cookbook recipe, > > blending it to mush then chilled did not appeal to me. I kept > > it chunky and ate it hot. > > Nonetheless, you should try it. Mind you, you take out a portion > of the soup to mush, not the entire thing. When I make it, there > are pieces of potato and the mushed potatoes serve to smooth out > the creamy part. > > And cold is the way it is meant to be eaten. > It just seems to me that if you cook it all then chill it and eat it cold....it's like eating leftovers cold because you are in a hurry to eat something or are just to lazy to heat it up. I loved it hot and chunky...didn't blend any of it. The thought of eating that cold does not appeal to me. It would still taste good but heated would be better to me. G. |
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On 8/26/2013 12:13 PM, Gary wrote:
> Michel Boucher wrote: >> >> Gary > wrote in : >> >>> The one time I made it using the NY Times Cookbook recipe, >>> blending it to mush then chilled did not appeal to me. I kept >>> it chunky and ate it hot. >> >> Nonetheless, you should try it. Mind you, you take out a portion >> of the soup to mush, not the entire thing. When I make it, there >> are pieces of potato and the mushed potatoes serve to smooth out >> the creamy part. >> >> And cold is the way it is meant to be eaten. >> > > It just seems to me that if you cook it all then chill it and eat it > cold....it's like eating leftovers cold because you are in a hurry to > eat something or are just to lazy to heat it up. > > I loved it hot and chunky...didn't blend any of it. The thought of > eating that cold does not appeal to me. It would still taste good but > heated would be better to me. > I think I have mentioned that a similar thing is done with gazpacho: half is blended but half is retained coarsely chopped and added to the blend. -- Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD) Extraneous "not." in Reply To. |
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On 8/26/2013 12:13 PM, Gary wrote:
> Michel Boucher wrote: >> >> Gary > wrote in : >> >>> The one time I made it using the NY Times Cookbook recipe, >>> blending it to mush then chilled did not appeal to me. I kept >>> it chunky and ate it hot. >> >> Nonetheless, you should try it. Mind you, you take out a portion >> of the soup to mush, not the entire thing. When I make it, there >> are pieces of potato and the mushed potatoes serve to smooth out >> the creamy part. >> >> And cold is the way it is meant to be eaten. >> > > It just seems to me that if you cook it all then chill it and eat it > cold....it's like eating leftovers cold because you are in a hurry to > eat something or are just to lazy to heat it up. > > I loved it hot and chunky...didn't blend any of it. The thought of > eating that cold does not appeal to me. It would still taste good but > heated would be better to me. > > G. > Again... not everyone is a fan of cold soups. I prefer hot soup, even in the heat of summer. But hey, I have air conditioning. It doesn't really matter to me if it is hot outside. (I use the oven in the summer, too.) The only thing "seasonal" about the soup I make is it depends on the availability of fresh ingredients. I don't like cold food in general. I doubt I'll ever like cold soup. Jill |
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On 26/08/2013 12:10 PM, jmcquown wrote:
flavor is boring. >> >> Got to respectfully disagree with you there, Sheldon. Jerry Avins >> once posted a potato soup recipe with onions in another ng. It >> sounded boring to me but I happened to have all the ingredients so I >> made a batch. One of the best soups I'd ever tried....and the recipe >> was so simple. >> >> G. >> > Sheldon doesn't like cream anything. Too bad. I happen to love cream > soups. Even if they don't contain cream. ![]() > butternut squash soup is really nice. It might even be good cold, I > just don't like cold soups. > He also has a think about cheese and fish, apparently the advice of a Chinese chef... from the land of the lactose intolerant, where they just don't do cheese period. Butternut squash soup is one of my favourite soups. The corner bakery cafe does on with a bit of apple in it.I always add curry powder to mine. I have had plenty of delicious cream soups in the past... tomato, mushroom, broccoli, cauliflower. I am hoping that now that my gall bladder is gone I might be able to enjoy more creamy foods. |
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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
... > Butternut squash soup is one of my favourite soups. The corner bakery cafe > does on with a bit of apple in it.I always add curry powder to mine. I > have had plenty of delicious cream soups in the past... tomato, mushroom, > broccoli, cauliflower. I am hoping that now that my gall bladder is gone > I might be able to enjoy more creamy foods. I think most soups are greatly improved with a bit of cream added. Cheri |
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On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:21:51 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>Michel Boucher wrote: >> >> I once had a chef argue that vichyssoise is made with green onions, >> not leek. I have found nothing so far to support that. Mind you, >> in the immortal words of Mr. Fromkiss, my wife and I are a busy >> man, so I haven't spent a lot of time researching this. > >Maybe not in an expensive restaurant but, made at home, plain yellow >onions will do fine. Leeks are overrated and too expensive IMO. Same >thing with green onions and shallots too. They're just onions! > >G. I can't agree. Green onions provide a completely different taste. Janet US |
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On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 12:06:08 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote: >On 8/26/2013 11:48 AM, Dave Smith wrote: >> On 26/08/2013 11:29 AM, James Silverton wrote: >> >>>> >>> Oh no! Leeks do taste different than onions. Each has its place in >>> cooking. I would not eat a raw leek but braised leeks are good and, of >>> course, raw red and green onions can be good. >>> >> >> >> Leeks, spanish onion, scallions, cooking onions, chives all have similar >> qualities. They are not interchangeable. >> >Nope, they aren't interchangeable. They may be related species-wise but >to me they taste decidedly different. Perhaps one needs a more >discerning palate to taste the difference. I never thought of myself >that way, but perhaps it's true. I could definitely taste the >difference in a leek vs. green onions in potato-leek soup. > >Jill Oh, heavens, yes. I can't imagine a green onion/potato soup. IMO green onions are not at their best when cooked. They should be used raw or added at the very last. Janet |
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Michel Boucher > wrote: > Michael Press > wrote in news:rubrum- > : > > > Make potato-leek soup. > > aka Vichyssoise. Yes, I know. -- Michael Press |
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Michel Boucher > wrote: > Dave Smith > wrote in > : > > > It is the cold cream that makes it Vichyssoise. Otherwise it > > is just leek and potato soup. > > I would think the leek and potatoes are also necessary, and a good > vegetable broth. > > I once had a chef argue that vichyssoise is made with green onions, > not leek. I have found nothing so far to support that. Mind you, > in the immortal words of Mr. Fromkiss, my wife and I are a busy > man, so I haven't spent a lot of time researching this. I often make potato leek soup with a yellow onion substituting for the leek. Tastes real good. -- Michael Press |
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In article >, Gary > wrote:
> Michel Boucher wrote: > > > > I once had a chef argue that vichyssoise is made with green onions, > > not leek. I have found nothing so far to support that. Mind you, > > in the immortal words of Mr. Fromkiss, my wife and I are a busy > > man, so I haven't spent a lot of time researching this. > > Maybe not in an expensive restaurant but, made at home, plain yellow > onions will do fine. Leeks are overrated and too expensive IMO. Same > thing with green onions and shallots too. They're just onions! Could be that there are places and times where leeks are as common as yellow onion. I like the soup as well with yellow onion as with leek. -- Michael Press |
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On Monday, August 26, 2013 10:21:51 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Michel Boucher wrote: > > > > > > I once had a chef argue that vichyssoise is made with green onions, > > > not leek. I have found nothing so far to support that. Mind you, > > > in the immortal words of Mr. Fromkiss, my wife and I are a busy > > > man, so I haven't spent a lot of time researching this. > > > > Maybe not in an expensive restaurant but, made at home, plain yellow > > onions will do fine. Leeks are overrated and too expensive IMO. Same > > thing with green onions and shallots too. They're just onions! > You don't realize how stupid you look when you write crap like that? The flavor of green onions is nothing like onions. You need to get rid of those filthy ferrets that **** and shit in every corner of your house and stink even when they're not ****ing or shitting. Your nose is so clogged with ferret filth that you can't tell the difference between an onion bulb and onion tops. The rest of us can distinguish between different foods because we don't live in a weaselarium. > --Bryan O|O > G. --Bryan O|O |
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![]() "Michael Press" > wrote in message ... > In article >, Gary > wrote: > >> Michel Boucher wrote: >> > >> > I once had a chef argue that vichyssoise is made with green onions, >> > not leek. I have found nothing so far to support that. Mind you, >> > in the immortal words of Mr. Fromkiss, my wife and I are a busy >> > man, so I haven't spent a lot of time researching this. >> >> Maybe not in an expensive restaurant but, made at home, plain yellow >> onions will do fine. Leeks are overrated and too expensive IMO. Same >> thing with green onions and shallots too. They're just onions! > > Could be that there are places and times where > leeks are as common as yellow onion. I like > the soup as well with yellow onion as with leek. Leeks are common here. -- -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On Monday, August 26, 2013 4:03:43 PM UTC-5, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 12:06:08 -0400, jmcquown > > > wrote: > > > > >On 8/26/2013 11:48 AM, Dave Smith wrote: > > >> On 26/08/2013 11:29 AM, James Silverton wrote: > > >> > > >>>> > > >>> Oh no! Leeks do taste different than onions. Each has its place in > > >>> cooking. I would not eat a raw leek but braised leeks are good and, of > > >>> course, raw red and green onions can be good. > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> Leeks, spanish onion, scallions, cooking onions, chives all have similar > > >> qualities. They are not interchangeable. > > >> > > >Nope, they aren't interchangeable. They may be related species-wise but > > >to me they taste decidedly different. Perhaps one needs a more > > >discerning palate to taste the difference. I never thought of myself > > >that way, but perhaps it's true. I could definitely taste the > > >difference in a leek vs. green onions in potato-leek soup. > You don't live in a house with filthy weasels defecating in every corner. > > >Jill > > > > Oh, heavens, yes. I can't imagine a green onion/potato soup. IMO > > green onions are not at their best when cooked. They should be used > > raw or added at the very last. I adore onions. Sometimes I eat them raw, by themselves, but I detest green onions. Green onions should never be cooked into anything. > > Janet --Bryan |
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 03:25:14 -0700 (PDT), Vegan Earthworm Holocaust
> wrote: snip > >I adore onions. Sometimes I eat them raw, by themselves, but I detest green onions. Green onions should never be cooked into anything. > >--Bryan I love green onions. They are expensive to buy unless you are going to use them within a short while. My mother always grew them and in Wisconsin it was possible to have them in the ground most of the summer. Out here the weather changes to hot very quickly and all the cool weather crops go to seed. Janet US |
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:11:01 +1000, John J > wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 03:25:14 -0700 (PDT), Vegan Earthworm Holocaust > wrote: > >>On Monday, August 26, 2013 4:03:43 PM UTC-5, Janet Bostwick wrote: > >>> >Nope, they aren't interchangeable. They may be related species-wise but >>> >>> >to me they taste decidedly different. Perhaps one needs a more >>> >>> >discerning palate to taste the difference. I never thought of myself >>> >>> >that way, but perhaps it's true. I could definitely taste the >>> >>> >difference in a leek vs. green onions in potato-leek soup. >>> >>You don't live in a house with filthy weasels defecating in every corner. > >Can't you house train them or at least wash them? It must really be a >strain on your olfactory system. I didn't write the above. Janet US |
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On 8/27/2013 10:31 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:11:01 +1000, John J > wrote: > >> On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 03:25:14 -0700 (PDT), Vegan Earthworm Holocaust >> > wrote: >> >>> On Monday, August 26, 2013 4:03:43 PM UTC-5, Janet Bostwick wrote: >> >>>>> Nope, they aren't interchangeable. They may be related species-wise but >>>> >>>>> to me they taste decidedly different. Perhaps one needs a more >>>> >>>>> discerning palate to taste the difference. I never thought of myself >>>> >>>>> that way, but perhaps it's true. I could definitely taste the >>>> >>>>> difference in a leek vs. green onions in potato-leek soup. >>>> >>> You don't live in a house with filthy weasels defecating in every corner. >> >> Can't you house train them or at least wash them? It must really be a >> strain on your olfactory system. > > I didn't write the above. > Janet US > No, you didn't. I wrote the first paragraph quoted - they aren't interchangeable. I also don't have filthy weasels defecating in my house. John J and Bryan (both k/f'd for lack of interest as much as annoyance) really need to take their private petty quarrels someplace else. Jill |
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John J wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 03:25:14 -0700 (PDT), Vegan Earthworm Holocaust > > wrote: > >You don't live in a house with filthy weasels defecating in every corner. > > Can't you house train them or at least wash them? It must really be a > strain on your olfactory system. Bryan is talking out of his ass. His only experience with ferrets was Kuthe's house and evidently John didn't keep up with them. My house doesn't smell and I do know that. My nose is very sensitive. I come home from work and I'll smell something that's not right. My ferrets are litter trained and I change the papers several times a day. Bryan doesn't know anything about having ferrets other that what John did or did no do. If you don't keep up with the litter etc, even a cat or dog will make your house reek of poo and urine. Ferrets have the mistaken reputation of being stinky because they have anal scent glands just like skunks do. They are not the same and don't deserve the mistaken reputation. G. |
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On 8/27/2013 10:29 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 03:25:14 -0700 (PDT), Vegan Earthworm Holocaust > > wrote: > snip >> >> I adore onions. Sometimes I eat them raw, by themselves, but I detest green onions. Green onions should never be cooked into anything. > >> >> --Bryan > > I love green onions. They are expensive to buy unless you are going > to use them within a short while. My mother always grew them and in > Wisconsin it was possible to have them in the ground most of the > summer. Out here the weather changes to hot very quickly and all the > cool weather crops go to seed. > Janet US > A bunch of green onions will last for a week in the fridge. You may have to strip off outer skins after that time. -- Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD) Extraneous "not." in Reply To. |
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On 8/27/2013 11:42 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> On 8/27/2013 10:29 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote: >> On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 03:25:14 -0700 (PDT), Vegan Earthworm Holocaust >> > wrote: >> snip >>> >>> I adore onions. Sometimes I eat them raw, by themselves, but I >>> detest green onions. Green onions should never be cooked into anything. >> >>> >>> --Bryan >> >> I love green onions. They are expensive to buy unless you are going >> to use them within a short while. My mother always grew them and in >> Wisconsin it was possible to have them in the ground most of the >> summer. Out here the weather changes to hot very quickly and all the >> cool weather crops go to seed. >> Janet US >> > A bunch of green onions will last for a week in the fridge. You may have > to strip off outer skins after that time. > The best method is to strip them back, cut the root ends, then pack them in slightly moist paper towels in a ziplock bag. |
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:02:06 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>On 8/27/2013 11:42 AM, James Silverton wrote: >> On 8/27/2013 10:29 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote: >>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 03:25:14 -0700 (PDT), Vegan Earthworm Holocaust >>> > wrote: >>> snip >>>> >>>> I adore onions. Sometimes I eat them raw, by themselves, but I >>>> detest green onions. Green onions should never be cooked into anything. >>> >>>> >>>> --Bryan >>> >>> I love green onions. They are expensive to buy unless you are going >>> to use them within a short while. My mother always grew them and in >>> Wisconsin it was possible to have them in the ground most of the >>> summer. Out here the weather changes to hot very quickly and all the >>> cool weather crops go to seed. >>> Janet US >>> >> A bunch of green onions will last for a week in the fridge. You may have >> to strip off outer skins after that time. >> >The best method is to strip them back, cut the root ends, then pack them >in slightly moist paper towels in a ziplock bag. I use the damp paper towels. I just don't trim roots or strip them and they do fine for over a week. Janet US |
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Vegan Earthworm Holocaust wrote:
> > You don't realize how stupid you look when you write crap like that? The flavor of green onions is nothing like onions. I know they have slightly different flavors but substituting is fine. > You need to get rid of those filthy ferrets that **** and shit in > every corner of your house and stink even when they're not ****ing > or shitting. Your nose is so clogged with ferret filth that you > can't tell the difference between an onion bulb and onion tops. > > The rest of us can distinguish between different foods because > we don't live in a weaselarium. LMAO! This rant ruled, Bryan. I will forward it to some friends that have been to my house and know better. Very funny email. ;-D You are an idiot but a funny one. G. |
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Janet wrote:
> > says... > > I know they have slightly different flavors but substituting is fine. > > No, it isn't. They are different flavours and textures. It's just me, Janet UK. I LOVE onions and strong. I always use more than called for in a recipe. Onions are onions to me and I'll substitute any time. G. |
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Vegan Earthworm Holocaust (aka - Mr.MidlifeCrisis) wrote:
> You need to get rid of those filthy ferrets that **** and shit in > every corner of your house and stink even when they're not ****ing > or shitting. Your nose is so clogged with ferret filth that you > can't tell the difference between an onion bulb and onion tops. > > The rest of us can distinguish between different foods because > we don't live in a weaselarium. > > > > --Bryan (_|_) I'm still laughing over the "weaselarium" comment. LOLOL That was a good one. :-D Here's a ferret cartoon just for you. http://i42.tinypic.com/24kyvpe.jpg G. |
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Garywrote:
>lucretiaborgia.it wrote: >> Gary wrote: >> > >> >Here's a ferret cartoon just for you. >> >http://i42.tinypic.com/24kyvpe.jpg > >> My son's SO had a ferret when they first started living together. It >> was already elderly but perfectly housetrained, no smell. > >Bwrrrryan is <S>pet<S> ignorant. > >Cats and dogs will smell up your house too if >you don't litter train them (or scoop out the litter box often). > >G. :-D Bwrrrryan will stink up your house! |
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