Howdy to all,

ok here's my question, how long after meat is thawed can it be kept in frig before cooking? More specifically;

I bought some pork chops four days before the expiration date (sell by)and put them in the freezer. FF...I took them out this morning intending to grill them. Plans changed, and now it will be at least two days before I will be able to grill/cook them, it could be three days.

Is the smell test sufficient to determine spoilage?

Thanks for advice and your time.

Al

> wrote in message
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Howdy to all,

ok here's my question, how long after meat is thawed can it be kept in frig
before cooking? More specifically;

I bought some pork chops four days before the expiration date (sell by)and
put them in the freezer. FF...I took them out this morning intending to
grill them. Plans changed, and now it will be at least two days before I
will be able to grill/cook them, it could be three days.

Is the smell test sufficient to determine spoilage?

Thanks for advice and your time.

Al

---

The smell test is never a good test. I would say to use them in 2 days. If
need be you could cook them and then eat them the following day. I bought
ground beef for tacos to eat tomorrow. But the meat said to use by
yesterday. So I cooked it yesterday.

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 14:02:53 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

>
>
>Howdy to all,
>
>ok here's my question, how long after meat is thawed can it be kept in frig before cooking? More specifically;
>
>I bought some pork chops four days before the expiration date (sell by)and put them in the freezer. FF...I took them out this morning intending to grill them. Plans changed, and now it will be at least two days before I will be able to grill/cook them, it could be three days.
>
>Is the smell test sufficient to determine spoilage?
>
>Thanks for advice and your time.
>
>Al


While I don't rust the smell test, they should be good for at least 3
to 4 days. I know someone may chime in here and say it has to be used
within 22 minutes, but from experience, 4 days is good.

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 14:02:53 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

>
>
>Howdy to all,
>
>ok here's my question, how long after meat is thawed can it be kept in frig before cooking? More specifically;
>
>I bought some pork chops four days before the expiration date (sell by)and put them in the freezer. FF...I took them out this morning intending to grill them. Plans changed, and now it will be at least two days before I will be able to grill/cook them, it could be three days.
>
>Is the smell test sufficient to determine spoilage?

Not foolproof but still an indicator if yo *do* smell something bad of
course... I think you'll be pretty safe eating them in 2-3 days. Maybe
turning the thermostat up for the time being would help.

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 14:02:53 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

>
>
>Howdy to all,
>
>ok here's my question, how long after meat is thawed can it be kept in frig before cooking? More specifically;
>
>I bought some pork chops four days before the expiration date (sell by)and put them in the freezer. FF...I took them out this morning intending to grill them. Plans changed, and now it will be at least two days before I will be able to grill/cook them, it could be three days.
>
>Is the smell test sufficient to determine spoilage?
>
>Thanks for advice and your time.
>
>Al

If they are still firm (not completely thawed) you can put them back
in the freezer (according to the 2013 Ball Blue Book of Preserving)
Janet US

On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 07:35:16 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:



>Not foolproof but still an indicator if yo *do* smell something bad of
>course... I think you'll be pretty safe eating them in 2-3 days. Maybe
>turning the thermostat up for the time being would help.

I'd turn it down.

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 17:53:22 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 07:35:16 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>
>
>>Not foolproof but still an indicator if yo *do* smell something bad of
>>course... I think you'll be pretty safe eating them in 2-3 days. Maybe
>>turning the thermostat up for the time being would help.
>
>I'd turn it down.

Oh well, you know what I mean

On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 08:35:12 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:


>>
>>>Not foolproof but still an indicator if yo *do* smell something bad of
>>>course... I think you'll be pretty safe eating them in 2-3 days. Maybe
>>>turning the thermostat up for the time being would help.
>>
>>I'd turn it down.
>
>Oh well, you know what I mean

Yep. Funny how opposites can mean the same thing
Another odd saying: My MIL would say "close the light"

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 19:11:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> Another odd saying: My MIL would say "close the light"

Sounds like English was her second language, or maybe she was first
generation and that's how her family put it. I know people who say
that too. After hearing it over and over, I feel like saying very
loudly: "It's close the door and turn the light off".

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 9/8/2013 7:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 08:35:12 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>>> Not foolproof but still an indicator if yo *do* smell something bad of
>>>> course... I think you'll be pretty safe eating them in 2-3 days. Maybe
>>>> turning the thermostat up for the time being would help.
>>>
>>> I'd turn it down.
>>
>> Oh well, you know what I mean
>
> Yep. Funny how opposites can mean the same thing
> Another odd saying: My MIL would say "close the light"
>
I knew some people would say, "shut the light". Uh, it's not open. I
could turn it off, though...

Jill

On 9/8/2013 5:14 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 14:02:53 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Howdy to all,
>>
>> ok here's my question, how long after meat is thawed can it be kept in frig before cooking? More specifically;
>>
>> I bought some pork chops four days before the expiration date (sell by)and put them in the freezer. FF...I took them out this morning intending to grill them. Plans changed, and now it will be at least two days before I will be able to grill/cook them, it could be three days.
>>
>> Is the smell test sufficient to determine spoilage?
>>
>> Thanks for advice and your time.
>>
>> Al
>
>
> While I don't rust the smell test, they should be good for at least 3
> to 4 days. I know someone may chime in here and say it has to be used
> within 22 minutes, but from experience, 4 days is good.
>
There is a reason the smell test has such a following: it works. Pork
(and chicken) lets you know pretty quickly if it has gone off. If the
OP kept the thawed chops at a very cold temperature in the fridge, it
should be fine for a couple or three days. If it smells off, I wouldn't
bother with it.

That expiration date thing is tricky, too. I'm not sure who comes up
with those (or when).

Jill

On 9/8/2013 8:32 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 19:11:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> Another odd saying: My MIL would say "close the light"
>
> Sounds like English was her second language, or maybe she was first
> generation and that's how her family put it. I know people who say
> that too. After hearing it over and over, I feel like saying very
> loudly: "It's close the door and turn the light off".
>
It is a regional(neighborhood) thing in some parts of Philadelphia. I
think it pretty much died with that generation too.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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> On 9/8/2013 8:32 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 19:11:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> Another odd saying: My MIL would say "close the light"
>>
>> Sounds like English was her second language, or maybe she was first
>> generation and that's how her family put it. I know people who say
>> that too. After hearing it over and over, I feel like saying very
>> loudly: "It's close the door and turn the light off".
>>
> It is a regional(neighborhood) thing in some parts of Philadelphia. I
> think it pretty much died with that generation too.

We had a Dr. who used to tell us that he was not impressed by whatever the
medical condition was. That threw me. To me, to be impressed by something
means that the something is a really nice, good thing. And I presumed that
to not be impressed meant that it was a serious or bad thing. Turns out
that he meant that he thought it was normal or nothing to worry about. I
suspect that English wasn't his first language either.

wrote:
>
>ok here's my question, how long after meat is thawed can it be kept in frig before cooking? More specifically;
>
>I bought some pork chops four days before the expiration date (sell by)and put them in the freezer.
>FF...I took them out this morning intending to grill them.
>Plans changed, and now it will be at least two days before I will be able to grill/cook them, it could be three days.

A lot depends on how you thawed them... if in the fridge they should
be fine for the 4 days remaining of the sell-by date plus another 2-3
days from the time they were placed in the fridge to thaw. I marinate
thawed pork ribs in the fridge all the time, typically for three days.

>Is the smell test sufficient to determine spoilage?

Food pathogens have no odor so sniffing is not a good test...
naturally if the food stinks it's rotting and even though it may not
cause food poisoning it won't be very palatable (unless you're an
eskimo), so if it stinks toss it.

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 19:36:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 9/8/2013 8:32 PM, sf wrote:
> >> On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 19:11:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Another odd saying: My MIL would say "close the light"
> >>
> >> Sounds like English was her second language, or maybe she was first
> >> generation and that's how her family put it. I know people who say
> >> that too. After hearing it over and over, I feel like saying very
> >> loudly: "It's close the door and turn the light off".
> >>
> > It is a regional(neighborhood) thing in some parts of Philadelphia. I
> > think it pretty much died with that generation too.
>
> We had a Dr. who used to tell us that he was not impressed by whatever the
> medical condition was. That threw me. To me, to be impressed by something
> means that the something is a really nice, good thing. And I presumed that
> to not be impressed meant that it was a serious or bad thing. Turns out
> that he meant that he thought it was normal or nothing to worry about. I
> suspect that English wasn't his first language either.

I'm wondering about your grasp of the language, Julie. Not impressed
by it means it's not impressive aka: bad.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 20:58:32 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 9/8/2013 7:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 08:35:12 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>> Not foolproof but still an indicator if yo *do* smell something bad of
> >>>> course... I think you'll be pretty safe eating them in 2-3 days. Maybe
> >>>> turning the thermostat up for the time being would help.
> >>>
> >>> I'd turn it down.
> >>
> >> Oh well, you know what I mean
> >
> > Yep. Funny how opposites can mean the same thing
> > Another odd saying: My MIL would say "close the light"
> >
> I knew some people would say, "shut the light". Uh, it's not open. I
> could turn it off, though...
>
My too. It's another second language thing.


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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 10:53:13 +1000, John J > wrote:

> On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 17:09:52 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 19:36:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> We had a Dr. who used to tell us that he was not impressed by whatever the
> >> medical condition was. That threw me. To me, to be impressed by something
> >> means that the something is a really nice, good thing. And I presumed that
> >> to not be impressed meant that it was a serious or bad thing. Turns out
> >> that he meant that he thought it was normal or nothing to worry about. I
> >> suspect that English wasn't his first language either.
> >
> >I'm wondering about your grasp of the language, Julie. Not impressed
> >by it means it's not impressive aka: bad.
>
> That's what she said.

I should have written *not* bad for those who are incapable of
understanding that not was a modifier for both words.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:44:21 +1000, John J > wrote:

> On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 18:17:02 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 10:53:13 +1000, John J > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 17:09:52 -0700, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 19:36:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> We had a Dr. who used to tell us that he was not impressed by whatever the
> >> >> medical condition was. That threw me. To me, to be impressed by something
> >> >> means that the something is a really nice, good thing. And I presumed that
> >> >> to not be impressed meant that it was a serious or bad thing. Turns out
> >> >> that he meant that he thought it was normal or nothing to worry about. I
> >> >> suspect that English wasn't his first language either.
> >> >
> >> >I'm wondering about your grasp of the language, Julie. Not impressed
> >> >by it means it's not impressive aka: bad.
> >>
> >> That's what she said.
> >
> >I should have written *not* bad for those who are incapable of
> >understanding that not was a modifier for both words.
>
> Relax, life's too short.

Back at you.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Howdy again,

Thanks everyone, I appreciate the responses. All were helpful.

I ended up trying another solution offered by my neighbor. Grilled them and while still warm placed chops in a container with bbq sauce and then back to the freezer.

Never tried that before, so I'll post the taste test results after I eat them in a few days.

Again I appreciate the advice.

Al

On 9/10/2013 8:50 AM, wrote:
>
> Howdy again,
>
> Thanks everyone, I appreciate the responses. All were helpful.
>
> I ended up trying another solution offered by my neighbor. Grilled them and while still warm placed chops in a container with bbq sauce and then back to the freezer.
>
> Never tried that before, so I'll post the taste test results after I eat them in a few days.
>
> Again I appreciate the advice.
>
> Al
>

Excellent solution. That will work.

On 9/9/2013 8:10 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 20:58:32 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/8/2013 7:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 08:35:12 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not foolproof but still an indicator if yo *do* smell something bad of
>>>>>> course... I think you'll be pretty safe eating them in 2-3 days. Maybe
>>>>>> turning the thermostat up for the time being would help.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd turn it down.
>>>>
>>>> Oh well, you know what I mean
>>>
>>> Yep. Funny how opposites can mean the same thing
>>> Another odd saying: My MIL would say "close the light"
>>>
>> I knew some people would say, "shut the light". Uh, it's not open. I
>> could turn it off, though...
>>
> My too. It's another second language thing.
>

Except they weren't from another country, just a different part of the
country. Their parents weren't from another country, either.

Jill

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:47:49 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 9/9/2013 8:10 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 20:58:32 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I knew some people would say, "shut the light". Uh, it's not open. I
> >> could turn it off, though...
> >>
> > My too. It's another second language thing.
> >
>
> Except they weren't from another country, just a different part of the
> country. Their parents weren't from another country, either.
>
They must have been caught in some sort of cultural vacuum then
because IME the only people who do that are first generation and
sometimes second generation who speak their parents language as their
first at home.


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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 00:23:03 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:47:49 -0400, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>> On 9/9/2013 8:10 PM, sf wrote:
>> > On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 20:58:32 -0400, jmcquown >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I knew some people would say, "shut the light". Uh, it's not open. I
>> >> could turn it off, though...
>> >>
>> > My too. It's another second language thing.
>> >
>>
>> Except they weren't from another country, just a different part of the
>> country. Their parents weren't from another country, either.
>>
>They must have been caught in some sort of cultural vacuum then
>because IME the only people who do that are first generation and
>sometimes second generation who speak their parents language as their
>first at home.

I vote for cultural vacuum. Philadelphia is a very large city, but it
is comprised of many different neighborhoods. Many of the old
neighborhoods still maintain their own cultural differences over a
couple of generations.

Just as you may recognize a Boston accent or southern drawl, I can
tell the difference between someone from Fishtown or South Philly by
their speech. More subtle, but they are there. I know people that
were born and died in South Philly or Kensington and never left the
neighborhood. Never owned a car. Everything they ever need is right
there.

General theory is fresh meat will keep two or three days after thawing. Would be very picky with pork..chicken and fish. Beef can go much longer. I often age good steaks for a week exposed to air in the ice box. Would not want to try that with pork chops. The sense of smell if the best tool to use to make sure it hasn't got skunky.