On 9/12/2013 1:41 PM, merryb wrote:
> On Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:35:02 PM UTC-7, casa contenta wrote:
>> On 9/12/2013 1:14 PM, The Cook wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:45:23 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> On 9/12/2013 7:29 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>
>>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>
>>>>> ...
>>
>>>>>> On 2013-09-12 9:03 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> I've never tried a Subway. They opened one across the street from a
>>
>>>>>>> good old fashioned sub shop in my town. I don't know how they have
>>
>>>>>>> survived. Some people see a name and go with what they know, I guess.
>>
>>>>>>> There's plenty of business to go around.
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> For a while I worked out of an office that was a few doors down from a
>>
>>>>>> deli where I could get a freshly made sandwich on a fresh roll with a soft
>>
>>>>>> drink for $1.50 . We are going back a few years. Subway opened up around
>>
>>>>>> the corner and there was an Arby's on the same block. I much preferred the
>>
>>>>>> deli sandwiches for quality and the price. Judging from the number of
>>
>>>>>> people who came in at noon for sandwiches, so did a lot of other people.
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> I ate at an Arby's once. I think it was around the time Bill Clinton just
>>
>>>>> got elected. I remember the bread was so fake yellow it surely was food
>>
>>>>> coloring. And the "roast beef" was more like roast beef flavored slices of
>>
>>>>> paper saturated in salt. I was still drinking pints of water hours later as
>>
>>>>> the salt content was so high it made my lips shrivel.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Arby's meat is a pre-formed and pressed loaf.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> As such it is, well...loafy...
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> There is a franchise that used to have a real sliced beef sandwich,
>>
>>>> Hardees, but I think they are all but gone now.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Hardee's is alive and I assume well in North Carolina. I haven't been
>>
>>> to one in years.
>>
>>>
>>
>> So they are, as a cheap knock-off of Carl's Jr. I see.
>>
>>
>>
>> No more roast beef sandwich on the menu, too bad.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you have Roy Rogers in your area?
>>
>>
>>
>> They may be the lone remaining real roast beef fast food sandwich I know
>>
>> of, and they're mostly regional to the east coast.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://royrogersrestaurants.com/food
>>
>>
>>
>> Apparently they have a way to make cheap meat (eye round) taste good:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.food.com/recipe/roy-roger...andwich-417037
>>
>>
>>
>> 3 1/4 ounces beef eye round (USDA Choice)
>>
>> 2 ounces kaiser rolls (Maier's Italian)
>>
>> 2 tablespoons beef broth (or canned Consomme)
>>
>> 1 tablespoon barbecue sauce (Open Pit Regular)
>>
>> 1 tablespoon horseradish sauce (Creamy)
>>
>> Directions:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1
>>
>> Preheat oven to 225�F Insert an oven safe remote thermometer into the
>>
>> center of the roast and program the thermometer to alert at 115�F Place
>>
>> the roast on a rack over a foil lined baking pan. Slow roast in the oven
>>
>> uncovered until the thermometer alerts. Turn the temperature of the oven
>>
>> down to 175F and continue roasting. The idea is that this tough cut of
>>
>> meat will become most tender if slow roasted with an internal temp under
>>
>> 122F as long as possible.
>>
>> 2
>>
>> Change the alert temperature of the thermometer without opening the oven
>>
>> to 130�F When the alert is reached remove the roast from the oven and
>>
>> let rest inside an unsealed gallon sized ziploc baggie. This will
>>
>> capture the juices while resting. The roast will be pink throughout.
>>
>> This is how it should look at this point.
>>
>> 3
>>
>> When the roast is room temperature, seal the baggie and place in the
>>
>> refrigerator over night. The cold temperature will help enable thin slicing.
>>
>> 4
>>
>> Reserving the juices in the ziploc baggie, slice 3.2 oz of beef for each
>>
>> sandwich to be made. (I purchased a Harbor Freight deli slicer for $65
>>
>> on Ebay). Heat the beef broth or consomme in a saucepan until simmering
>>
>> and add in the reserved juices. When the sauce is simmering place the
>>
>> cut beef on a skimmer and dunk into the hot broth for 30 to 45 seconds.
>>
>> This will finish cook the beef, add the flavor of Roy's sandwiches
>>
>> without toughening the meat. Anything over a minute will toughen the
>>
>> meat. A Roy's employee acknowledged this is how they finished the beef.
>>
>> 5
>>
>> Place the meat directly from the broth on an untoasted bun bottom. Spoon
>>
>> a tablespoon of broth onto the top bun. Add barbecue sauce and horsey sauce.
>
> A person (Damsel?)who used to post here gave a recipe for Chicago Beef Sandwiches that is really good- I highly recommend it...
>

I'll see if I can google that. The key I think is in the jardinier(sp?)
and of course the slow roasting in juices.

It's a we sandwich, which is a mess to eat, but if I can dip as I go,
that's good.

On 9/12/2013 1:43 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 12:53:50 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>
>>
>> Here we have the Mexican version of steak rolls, called Bolillo rolls -
>> very similar, very tasty:
>>
>> http://www.food.com/recipe/mexican-b...al-rolls-12298
>>
>> Bolillos next to the Tortilla is a staple to Mexico. Nearly every
>> villiage has a Bakery and every bakery makes Bolillos, Fabulous for
>> breakfast with a little butter and fresh fruit. Bolillos go stale
>> quickly and are at their best right from the oven . Great for any meal
>> where you want a crisp roll
>
> They most certainly do get stale quickly - but we're lucky enough to
> see them everywhere from the corner Mexican markets to the huge chain
> grocery store bakeries - always bought as singles. They're the
> perfect size for most sandwiches, but they just aren't "right" (IMO)
> for a Philly Steak Sandwich. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
>
>
Lol, you'd be right, but they do work regardless. I agree, they spoil
fast unless kept in a ziplock bag, which we do, sometimes with a thin
apple slice - old brown sugar freshening trick...

"Paul M. Cook" wrote:
>
> I ate at an Arby's once. I think it was around the time Bill Clinton just
> got elected. I remember the bread was so fake yellow it surely was food
> coloring. And the "roast beef" was more like roast beef flavored slices of
> paper saturated in salt. I was still drinking pints of water hours later as
> the salt content was so high it made my lips shrivel.

LOL! You are a fast food moron. Rant about Subway and now about
Arby's. Want better food? Pay for it.

> "I was still drinking pints of water hours later as
> the salt content was so high it made my lips shrivel."

LMAO! You baby! LOLOLOLOL! You should be nominated for a Kook
Award!

G.

On 9/12/2013 2:20 PM, Gary wrote:
> "Paul M. Cook" wrote:
>>
>> I ate at an Arby's once. I think it was around the time Bill Clinton just
>> got elected. I remember the bread was so fake yellow it surely was food
>> coloring. And the "roast beef" was more like roast beef flavored slices of
>> paper saturated in salt. I was still drinking pints of water hours later as
>> the salt content was so high it made my lips shrivel.
>
> LOL! You are a fast food moron. Rant about Subway and now about
> Arby's. Want better food? Pay for it.

Oh come on, don't be petty.

>
>> "I was still drinking pints of water hours later as
>> the salt content was so high it made my lips shrivel."
>
> LMAO! You baby! LOLOLOLOL! You should be nominated for a Kook
> Award!
>
> G.
>
What do you think about the Roy Rogers franchise?

On Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:55:16 PM UTC-7, casa contenta wrote:
> On 9/12/2013 1:41 PM, merryb wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:35:02 PM UTC-7, casa contenta wrote:
>
> >> On 9/12/2013 1:14 PM, The Cook wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:45:23 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>> On 9/12/2013 7:29 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>
> >>
>
> >>>>> ...
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>> On 2013-09-12 9:03 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>>> I've never tried a Subway. They opened one across the street from a
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>>> good old fashioned sub shop in my town. I don't know how they have
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>>> survived. Some people see a name and go with what they know, I guess.
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>>> There's plenty of business to go around.
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>> For a while I worked out of an office that was a few doors down from a
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>> deli where I could get a freshly made sandwich on a fresh roll with a soft
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>> drink for $1.50 . We are going back a few years. Subway opened up around
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>> the corner and there was an Arby's on the same block. I much preferred the
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>> deli sandwiches for quality and the price. Judging from the number of
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>> people who came in at noon for sandwiches, so did a lot of other people.
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>>> I ate at an Arby's once. I think it was around the time Bill Clinton just
>
> >>
>
> >>>>> got elected. I remember the bread was so fake yellow it surely was food
>
> >>
>
> >>>>> coloring. And the "roast beef" was more like roast beef flavored slices of
>
> >>
>
> >>>>> paper saturated in salt. I was still drinking pints of water hours later as
>
> >>
>
> >>>>> the salt content was so high it made my lips shrivel.
>
> >>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>> Arby's meat is a pre-formed and pressed loaf.
>
> >>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>> As such it is, well...loafy...
>
> >>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>> There is a franchise that used to have a real sliced beef sandwich,
>
> >>
>
> >>>> Hardees, but I think they are all but gone now.
>
> >>
>
> >>>
>
> >>
>
> >>> Hardee's is alive and I assume well in North Carolina. I haven't been
>
> >>
>
> >>> to one in years.
>
> >>
>
> >>>
>
> >>
>
> >> So they are, as a cheap knock-off of Carl's Jr. I see.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> No more roast beef sandwich on the menu, too bad.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Do you have Roy Rogers in your area?
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> They may be the lone remaining real roast beef fast food sandwich I know
>
> >>
>
> >> of, and they're mostly regional to the east coast.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> http://royrogersrestaurants.com/food
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Apparently they have a way to make cheap meat (eye round) taste good:
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> http://www.food.com/recipe/roy-roger...andwich-417037
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> 3 1/4 ounces beef eye round (USDA Choice)
>
> >>
>
> >> 2 ounces kaiser rolls (Maier's Italian)
>
> >>
>
> >> 2 tablespoons beef broth (or canned Consomme)
>
> >>
>
> >> 1 tablespoon barbecue sauce (Open Pit Regular)
>
> >>
>
> >> 1 tablespoon horseradish sauce (Creamy)
>
> >>
>
> >> Directions:
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> 1
>
> >>
>
> >> Preheat oven to 225�F Insert an oven safe remote thermometer into the
>
> >>
>
> >> center of the roast and program the thermometer to alert at 115�F Place
>
> >>
>
> >> the roast on a rack over a foil lined baking pan. Slow roast in the oven
>
> >>
>
> >> uncovered until the thermometer alerts. Turn the temperature of the oven
>
> >>
>
> >> down to 175F and continue roasting. The idea is that this tough cut of
>
> >>
>
> >> meat will become most tender if slow roasted with an internal temp under
>
> >>
>
> >> 122F as long as possible.
>
> >>
>
> >> 2
>
> >>
>
> >> Change the alert temperature of the thermometer without opening the oven
>
> >>
>
> >> to 130�F When the alert is reached remove the roast from the oven and
>
> >>
>
> >> let rest inside an unsealed gallon sized ziploc baggie. This will
>
> >>
>
> >> capture the juices while resting. The roast will be pink throughout.
>
> >>
>
> >> This is how it should look at this point.
>
> >>
>
> >> 3
>
> >>
>
> >> When the roast is room temperature, seal the baggie and place in the
>
> >>
>
> >> refrigerator over night. The cold temperature will help enable thin slicing.
>
> >>
>
> >> 4
>
> >>
>
> >> Reserving the juices in the ziploc baggie, slice 3.2 oz of beef for each
>
> >>
>
> >> sandwich to be made. (I purchased a Harbor Freight deli slicer for $65
>
> >>
>
> >> on Ebay). Heat the beef broth or consomme in a saucepan until simmering
>
> >>
>
> >> and add in the reserved juices. When the sauce is simmering place the
>
> >>
>
> >> cut beef on a skimmer and dunk into the hot broth for 30 to 45 seconds..
>
> >>
>
> >> This will finish cook the beef, add the flavor of Roy's sandwiches
>
> >>
>
> >> without toughening the meat. Anything over a minute will toughen the
>
> >>
>
> >> meat. A Roy's employee acknowledged this is how they finished the beef..
>
> >>
>
> >> 5
>
> >>
>
> >> Place the meat directly from the broth on an untoasted bun bottom. Spoon
>
> >>
>
> >> a tablespoon of broth onto the top bun. Add barbecue sauce and horsey sauce.
>
> >
>
> > A person (Damsel?)who used to post here gave a recipe for Chicago Beef Sandwiches that is really good- I highly recommend it...
>
> >
>
>
>
> I'll see if I can google that. The key I think is in the jardinier(sp?)
>
> and of course the slow roasting in juices.
>
>
>
> It's a we sandwich, which is a mess to eat, but if I can dip as I go,
>
> that's good.

Yes, the peppers are absolutely necessary IMO!

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:17:04 -0700, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
> > And I regret it.
> >
> > It was just awful.
> >
> > Bread was so dry after the toasting even a quart of water wasn't enough to
> > choke that bitch down. I ordered the steak and cheese. I got maybe 1 ounce
> > of chopped steak that was so dry I had to blow the dust off. The Provolone
> > cheese was tasteless. They had no onions or Whiz.
> >
> > It was just disgusting.
> >
> > Why do people eat this crap?
>
> I can't get past the smell of the place. It's bad enough having to
> walk past a Subway, let alone go inside.
>
> -sw

That's an even sillier comment than all of Paul's rants. hahahaha

G.

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> Remember that many people out there eat food just for sustenance
> rather than for flavor.

That's not true at all or if it is...very sad. I think people buy for
flavor (and maybe cost savings) regardless sometimes if it's healthy
or not.

G.

On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:14:55 -0400, The Cook >
wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:45:23 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>
> >
> >There is a franchise that used to have a real sliced beef sandwich,
> >Hardees, but I think they are all but gone now.
>
> Hardee's is alive and I assume well in North Carolina. I haven't been
> to one in years.

I thought Hardee's is called Carl's Junior out West, but AFAIC it's FF
hamburgers... I don't eat there, so I don't know what's on their full
menu.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 9/12/2013 2:47 PM, merryb wrote:
> On Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:55:16 PM UTC-7, casa contenta wrote:
>> On 9/12/2013 1:41 PM, merryb wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:35:02 PM UTC-7, casa contenta wrote:
>>
>>>> On 9/12/2013 1:14 PM, The Cook wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:45:23 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>> On 9/12/2013 7:29 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> ...
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-12 9:03 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>>> I've never tried a Subway. They opened one across the street from a
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>>> good old fashioned sub shop in my town. I don't know how they have
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>>> survived. Some people see a name and go with what they know, I guess.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>>> There's plenty of business to go around.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>> For a while I worked out of an office that was a few doors down from a
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>> deli where I could get a freshly made sandwich on a fresh roll with a soft
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>> drink for $1.50 . We are going back a few years. Subway opened up around
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>> the corner and there was an Arby's on the same block. I much preferred the
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>> deli sandwiches for quality and the price. Judging from the number of
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>> people who came in at noon for sandwiches, so did a lot of other people.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> I ate at an Arby's once. I think it was around the time Bill Clinton just
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> got elected. I remember the bread was so fake yellow it surely was food
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> coloring. And the "roast beef" was more like roast beef flavored slices of
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> paper saturated in salt. I was still drinking pints of water hours later as
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> the salt content was so high it made my lips shrivel.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>> Arby's meat is a pre-formed and pressed loaf.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>> As such it is, well...loafy...
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>> There is a franchise that used to have a real sliced beef sandwich,
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>> Hardees, but I think they are all but gone now.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>> Hardee's is alive and I assume well in North Carolina. I haven't been
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>> to one in years.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> So they are, as a cheap knock-off of Carl's Jr. I see.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> No more roast beef sandwich on the menu, too bad.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Do you have Roy Rogers in your area?
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> They may be the lone remaining real roast beef fast food sandwich I know
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> of, and they're mostly regional to the east coast.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> http://royrogersrestaurants.com/food
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Apparently they have a way to make cheap meat (eye round) taste good:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> http://www.food.com/recipe/roy-roger...andwich-417037
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> 3 1/4 ounces beef eye round (USDA Choice)
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> 2 ounces kaiser rolls (Maier's Italian)
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> 2 tablespoons beef broth (or canned Consomme)
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> 1 tablespoon barbecue sauce (Open Pit Regular)
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> 1 tablespoon horseradish sauce (Creamy)
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Directions:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> 1
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Preheat oven to 225�F Insert an oven safe remote thermometer into the
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> center of the roast and program the thermometer to alert at 115�F Place
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> the roast on a rack over a foil lined baking pan. Slow roast in the oven
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> uncovered until the thermometer alerts. Turn the temperature of the oven
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> down to 175F and continue roasting. The idea is that this tough cut of
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> meat will become most tender if slow roasted with an internal temp under
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> 122F as long as possible.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> 2
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Change the alert temperature of the thermometer without opening the oven
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> to 130�F When the alert is reached remove the roast from the oven and
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> let rest inside an unsealed gallon sized ziploc baggie. This will
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> capture the juices while resting. The roast will be pink throughout.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> This is how it should look at this point.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> 3
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> When the roast is room temperature, seal the baggie and place in the
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> refrigerator over night. The cold temperature will help enable thin slicing.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> 4
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Reserving the juices in the ziploc baggie, slice 3.2 oz of beef for each
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> sandwich to be made. (I purchased a Harbor Freight deli slicer for $65
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> on Ebay). Heat the beef broth or consomme in a saucepan until simmering
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> and add in the reserved juices. When the sauce is simmering place the
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> cut beef on a skimmer and dunk into the hot broth for 30 to 45 seconds.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> This will finish cook the beef, add the flavor of Roy's sandwiches
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> without toughening the meat. Anything over a minute will toughen the
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> meat. A Roy's employee acknowledged this is how they finished the beef.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> 5
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Place the meat directly from the broth on an untoasted bun bottom. Spoon
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> a tablespoon of broth onto the top bun. Add barbecue sauce and horsey sauce.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> A person (Damsel?)who used to post here gave a recipe for Chicago Beef Sandwiches that is really good- I highly recommend it...
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'll see if I can google that. The key I think is in the jardinier(sp?)
>>
>> and of course the slow roasting in juices.
>>
>>
>>
>> It's a we sandwich, which is a mess to eat, but if I can dip as I go,
>>
>> that's good.
>
> Yes, the peppers are absolutely necessary IMO!
>

Sorry make that read "wet", but yes, those pickled peppers are the
absolute best.

I even order the banana peppers at Subway for some zing.

On 9/12/2013 2:17 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> And I regret it.
>
> It was just awful.
>
> Bread was so dry after the toasting even a quart of water wasn't enough to
> choke that bitch down. I ordered the steak and cheese. I got maybe 1 ounce
> of chopped steak that was so dry I had to blow the dust off. The Provolone
> cheese was tasteless. They had no onions or Whiz.
>
> It was just disgusting.
>
> Why do people eat this crap?
>
>
The lost the basics, Maybe never had the basics, they need to forget
the variety of sandwiches and just focus on good bread. Bread is 80 % of
a good sub. Crusty outside, soft, yet tough inside, is there a term Al
Dente for bread? The veg's are alright. The cheese they use has so
little taste it's lost in the flavor. It looks like all processed
'cheese', can one say cheese and processed at the same time, I don't
think so. Then your down to meat, is what they use in truth meat? It's
so processed as to have lost the right to be called meat, sooo yeah,
their OK.

On 9/12/2013 3:00 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:14:55 -0400, The Cook >
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:45:23 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> There is a franchise that used to have a real sliced beef sandwich,
>>> Hardees, but I think they are all but gone now.
>>
>> Hardee's is alive and I assume well in North Carolina. I haven't been
>> to one in years.
>
> I thought Hardee's is called Carl's Junior out West, but AFAIC it's FF
> hamburgers... I don't eat there, so I don't know what's on their full
> menu.
>

It all those immense drippy burgers that the super-model's can't fit in
their emaciated mouths, plus the rather pedestrian wet burritos you do
not care for, and a few odds and ends like fish sandwiches and chicken
ones too.

I am not a Carl's Jr, fan, give me 5 Guys or Smashburger any old day.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> >I'm amazed that they have so many locations and as a corporation seem
> >to be doing very well.
>
> Just proves what I've always said... the masses have TIAD. I've
> never eaten at Subway

enough said

G.

On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:51:24 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:

> We end up there in the AM if not in the mood to trailer cook, but when
> camping we're always to our sight by late lunch. I had no idea they
> sourced locally, good on them.

Honestly, I don't think a lot of it is locally source - but more than
one told me their bread was. So yes, good on them. Hubby has always
been a fan of Denny's breakfasts. He's always been a bacon and eggs
guy, so he used to eat breakfast there when he had to hit the road to
see clients. I've only come around recently.

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On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:28:52 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:

> ...but not for atmosphere, lol...

There's zero atmosphere, in fact you're lucky to get a table and
chair. If the one near me has 4 tables... I may have inflated the
count by one.

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On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:11:20 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:

> give me 5 Guys or Smashburger any old day.

Haven't tried 5 Guys and hadn't heard of Smashburger before this, but
try In N Out sometime - they're expanding and may be in your area
soon. As much as some people like it, Steak & Shake didn't ring any
bells for me.

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"casa contenta" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/12/2013 12:17 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> And I regret it.
>>
>> It was just awful.
>>
>> Bread was so dry after the toasting even a quart of water wasn't enough
>> to
>> choke that bitch down. I ordered the steak and cheese. I got maybe 1
>> ounce
>> of chopped steak that was so dry I had to blow the dust off. The
>> Provolone
>> cheese was tasteless. They had no onions or Whiz.
>>
>> It was just disgusting.
>>
>> Why do people eat this crap?
>>
>>
> For one thing the toasting is highly overrated and oversold. It does, as
> you observed, ruin the bread.
>
> That steak and cheese made with double meat would not be bad, though not
> deli sub shop quality.
>
> Try substituting the pepper jack cheese, that has a bit more zip.


Never and I mean never will I eat at Subway again.

We have a growing chain here called Jersey Mike's. They make an outstanding
sub for the same price.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
>> And I regret it.
>>
>> It was just awful.
>>
>> Bread was so dry after the toasting even a quart of water wasn't enough
>> to choke that bitch down. I ordered the steak and cheese. I got maybe 1
>> ounce of chopped steak that was so dry I had to blow the dust off. The
>> Provolone cheese was tasteless. They had no onions or Whiz.
>>
>> It was just disgusting.
>>
>> Why do people eat this crap?
>
>
> I imagine it depends on where you bought it. The Subways where I am have
> nice sandwiches, though I haven't had one for awhile so that could have
> changed.

Playa del Rey on Manchester. Be warned.

On 9/12/2013 3:30 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:51:24 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>
>> We end up there in the AM if not in the mood to trailer cook, but when
>> camping we're always to our sight by late lunch. I had no idea they
>> sourced locally, good on them.
>
> Honestly, I don't think a lot of it is locally source - but more than
> one told me their bread was. So yes, good on them. Hubby has always
> been a fan of Denny's breakfasts. He's always been a bacon and eggs
> guy, so he used to eat breakfast there when he had to hit the road to
> see clients. I've only come around recently.
>
Last year, iirc, they were doing some kind of Baconalia thing, more
bacon than we've seen since we use to eat at Azar's (Bob's Big Boy
elsewhere) breakfast buffet!

One caveat, it was not thick bacon, just a LOT of bacon..

On 9/12/2013 3:34 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:28:52 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>
>> ...but not for atmosphere, lol...
>
> There's zero atmosphere, in fact you're lucky to get a table and
> chair. If the one near me has 4 tables... I may have inflated the
> count by one.
>

So stand outside and assume the position.

If you have a Philly cheesesteak it's kind of a forward leaning hunch,
the Philly held out front, feet to either side -less chance of shoe
splatter...;-)

On 9/12/2013 3:44 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:11:20 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>
>> give me 5 Guys or Smashburger any old day.
>
> Haven't tried 5 Guys and hadn't heard of Smashburger before this, but
> try In N Out sometime - they're expanding and may be in your area
> soon. As much as some people like it, Steak & Shake didn't ring any
> bells for me.
>

I like In and Out, they have very unique fries, not anyone else's
compare. We eat there in Arizona and Utah.

Steak and Shake I have not seen yet.

On 9/12/2013 3:45 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "casa contenta" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/12/2013 12:17 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>> And I regret it.
>>>
>>> It was just awful.
>>>
>>> Bread was so dry after the toasting even a quart of water wasn't enough
>>> to
>>> choke that bitch down. I ordered the steak and cheese. I got maybe 1
>>> ounce
>>> of chopped steak that was so dry I had to blow the dust off. The
>>> Provolone
>>> cheese was tasteless. They had no onions or Whiz.
>>>
>>> It was just disgusting.
>>>
>>> Why do people eat this crap?
>>>
>>>
>> For one thing the toasting is highly overrated and oversold. It does, as
>> you observed, ruin the bread.
>>
>> That steak and cheese made with double meat would not be bad, though not
>> deli sub shop quality.
>>
>> Try substituting the pepper jack cheese, that has a bit more zip.
>
>
> Never and I mean never will I eat at Subway again.
>
> We have a growing chain here called Jersey Mike's. They make an outstanding
> sub for the same price.
>
>
I think the vote is in there, Mike's it is!

On 9/12/2013 3:48 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> And I regret it.
>>>
>>> It was just awful.
>>>
>>> Bread was so dry after the toasting even a quart of water wasn't enough
>>> to choke that bitch down. I ordered the steak and cheese. I got maybe 1
>>> ounce of chopped steak that was so dry I had to blow the dust off. The
>>> Provolone cheese was tasteless. They had no onions or Whiz.
>>>
>>> It was just disgusting.
>>>
>>> Why do people eat this crap?
>>
>>
>> I imagine it depends on where you bought it. The Subways where I am have
>> nice sandwiches, though I haven't had one for awhile so that could have
>> changed.
>
> Playa del Rey on Manchester. Be warned.
>
>
Do you use yelp.com?

If not, sign up, post a review, it helps the community of foodies.

On 9/12/2013 5:48 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> And I regret it.
>>>
>>> It was just awful.
>>>
>>> Bread was so dry after the toasting even a quart of water wasn't enough
>>> to choke that bitch down. I ordered the steak and cheese. I got maybe 1
>>> ounce of chopped steak that was so dry I had to blow the dust off. The
>>> Provolone cheese was tasteless. They had no onions or Whiz.
>>>
>>> It was just disgusting.
>>>
>>> Why do people eat this crap?
>>
>>
>> I imagine it depends on where you bought it. The Subways where I am have
>> nice sandwiches, though I haven't had one for awhile so that could have
>> changed.
>
> Playa del Rey on Manchester. Be warned.
>
>
I believe Subway bakes its bread in house from frozen dough but it's
hard to figure out why it it's so dry. The Giant stores used to bake
frozen dough from La Brea bakeries with quite good results.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

"casa contenta" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/12/2013 3:48 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> And I regret it.
>>>>
>>>> It was just awful.
>>>>
>>>> Bread was so dry after the toasting even a quart of water wasn't enough
>>>> to choke that bitch down. I ordered the steak and cheese. I got maybe
>>>> 1
>>>> ounce of chopped steak that was so dry I had to blow the dust off. The
>>>> Provolone cheese was tasteless. They had no onions or Whiz.
>>>>
>>>> It was just disgusting.
>>>>
>>>> Why do people eat this crap?
>>>
>>>
>>> I imagine it depends on where you bought it. The Subways where I am have
>>> nice sandwiches, though I haven't had one for awhile so that could have
>>> changed.
>>
>> Playa del Rey on Manchester. Be warned.
>>
>>
> Do you use yelp.com?
>
> If not, sign up, post a review, it helps the community of foodies.

I did. Paul C is my name.

casa contenta wrote:
>
> On 9/12/2013 12:44 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:45:23 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
> >
> >> Arby's meat is a pre-formed and pressed loaf.
> >
> > I ate there once back in the day when Arby's advertising first hit the
> > airwaves and that was the first thing I noticed. Then I noticed how
> > it tasted - and haven't returned.
> >
>
> It's quite nasty, imho, not real beef or even Buddig quality.

I haven't been to an Arby's in 15-20 years but I loved the stuff
then. Plain roast beef sandwiches with plenty of that horseradish
mayo they offer. Are they different these days?

G.

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:17:04 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>>And I regret it.
>>
>>It was just awful.
>>
>>Bread was so dry after the toasting even a quart of water wasn't enough to
>>choke that bitch down. I ordered the steak and cheese. I got maybe 1
>>ounce
>>of chopped steak that was so dry I had to blow the dust off. The
>>Provolone
>>cheese was tasteless. They had no onions or Whiz.
>>
>>It was just disgusting.
>>
>>Why do people eat this crap?
>>
>
> Their bread is crap. It's like Wonder bread. Freshly baked or not,
> crappy breaad is still crappy bread. And I'm sure they get the
> cheapest sandwish contents that they can to support their corporate
> profits.
>
> But it's better than starving, and certainly better than anything
> McCraps makes!


I wish I had gone to McDs. I know what I'd be getting and it would have
been so much better. I wish I had just gotten a couple corn dogs at the
AM/PM down the road.

"Paul M. Cook" wrote:
>
> I wish I had gone to McDs. I know what I'd be getting and it would have
> been so much better. I wish I had just gotten a couple corn dogs at the
> AM/PM down the road.

Thanks a lot, Paul. That got me thinking and remembering. I just added
a box of corndogs to my grocery list for Saturday. It's been a long
time.

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> "Paul M. Cook" wrote:
>>
>> I wish I had gone to McDs. I know what I'd be getting and it would have
>> been so much better. I wish I had just gotten a couple corn dogs at the
>> AM/PM down the road.
>
> Thanks a lot, Paul. That got me thinking and remembering. I just added
> a box of corndogs to my grocery list for Saturday. It's been a long
> time.


I dig a good corn dog. With mustard of course.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:14:55 -0400, The Cook >
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:45:23 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >There is a franchise that used to have a real sliced beef sandwich,
>> >Hardees, but I think they are all but gone now.
>>
>> Hardee's is alive and I assume well in North Carolina. I haven't been
>> to one in years.
>
> I thought Hardee's is called Carl's Junior out West, but AFAIC it's FF
> hamburgers... I don't eat there, so I don't know what's on their full
> menu.


Not at all. Carl's is a whole different place.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/12/2013 12:21 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:35:17 +0100, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> I sometimes walk past a Subway and it always look pretty full. I can't
>>> give
>>> a personal observation because I've never been in, but it must make some
>>> people happy.
>>
>> People will eventually wise up once they discover places that offer
>> real sandwiches. A favorite chain of mine is Jersey Mikes.
>
> Holy crow, Jersey Mike's made it that far?? We were just talking
> about it (relevent to this thread) and Ron said it's a pretty good
> sub shop.
>
> I thought it was still relatively local.


They are popping up all over SoCal now. I had one of their Italian
sandwiches and it was very good and only cost 7 bucks. It was packed with
meat and cheese just the way it should be.

On Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:44:27 PM UTC-7, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:11:20 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>
>
>
> > give me 5 Guys or Smashburger any old day.
>
>
>
> Haven't tried 5 Guys and hadn't heard of Smashburger before this, but
>
> try In N Out sometime - they're expanding and may be in your area
>
> soon. As much as some people like it, Steak & Shake didn't ring any
>
> bells for me.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Where did you see In & Out is expanding? I would love to see them up here- they would do great! I see we have a Carl's Jr coming to town- I & O would be so much better!

casa contenta wrote:
> On 9/12/2013 6:08 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A regular Philly cheesesteak is disgusting, so how was this less
>>> disgusting?
>>
>> No!!! A regular Philly cheesesteak from any local pizza parlor - not
>> the tourist traps - is usually wonderful.
>>
>> I'm an ex Philly boy - don't talk trash about my Philly cheesesteaks!
>>
>>
>>
>> -S-
>>
>>
> Been there, eaten several, heaven in your mouth. It's the bread and
> the prime rib shaved so thin.

Yup - I'm going to be in that area this coming weekend and am looking
forward to a cheesesteak or two.

-S-

On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:52:49 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:

> On 9/12/2013 3:30 PM, sf wrote:

> > Hubby has always
> > been a fan of Denny's breakfasts. He's always been a bacon and eggs
> > guy, so he used to eat breakfast there when he had to hit the road to
> > see clients. I've only come around recently.
> >
> Last year, iirc, they were doing some kind of Baconalia thing, more
> bacon than we've seen since we use to eat at Azar's (Bob's Big Boy
> elsewhere) breakfast buffet!
>
> One caveat, it was not thick bacon, just a LOT of bacon..

He would have really appreciated it 25 years ago... and was in hog
heaven back in the days when they had those Grand Slams for something
like 99¢. However, he mostly orders their chicken sausage patty these
days.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:52:52 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > "Paul M. Cook" wrote:
> >>
> >> I wish I had gone to McDs. I know what I'd be getting and it would have
> >> been so much better. I wish I had just gotten a couple corn dogs at the
> >> AM/PM down the road.
> >
> > Thanks a lot, Paul. That got me thinking and remembering. I just added
> > a box of corndogs to my grocery list for Saturday. It's been a long
> > time.
>
>
> I dig a good corn dog. With mustard of course.
>
That was another thing that I didn't come around to until I was deep
into adulthood. They're pretty good on a not very often type basis.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:28:15 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> casa contenta wrote:
> >
> > On 9/12/2013 12:44 PM, sf wrote:
> > > On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:45:23 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Arby's meat is a pre-formed and pressed loaf.
> > >
> > > I ate there once back in the day when Arby's advertising first hit the
> > > airwaves and that was the first thing I noticed. Then I noticed how
> > > it tasted - and haven't returned.
> > >
> >
> > It's quite nasty, imho, not real beef or even Buddig quality.
>
> I haven't been to an Arby's in 15-20 years but I loved the stuff
> then. Plain roast beef sandwiches with plenty of that horseradish
> mayo they offer. Are they different these days?
>
I think it depends on who you talk to, so best to see for yourself.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:57:10 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:

> On 9/12/2013 3:44 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:11:20 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
> >
> >> give me 5 Guys or Smashburger any old day.
> >
> > Haven't tried 5 Guys and hadn't heard of Smashburger before this, but
> > try In N Out sometime - they're expanding and may be in your area
> > soon. As much as some people like it, Steak & Shake didn't ring any
> > bells for me.
> >
>
> I like In and Out, they have very unique fries, not anyone else's
> compare. We eat there in Arizona and Utah.
>
Hubby and I don't love their fries, which is good for us because we
share one order instead of ordering one each. Not sure what they do
wrong, because you can watch them peel and slice the potatoes - so you
know they're fresh. It could be they just do a single fry when a
second dip in the hot tub would make them superior.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:54:22 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:

> On 9/12/2013 3:34 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:28:52 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
> >
> >> ...but not for atmosphere, lol...
> >
> > There's zero atmosphere, in fact you're lucky to get a table and
> > chair. If the one near me has 4 tables... I may have inflated the
> > count by one.
> >
>
> So stand outside and assume the position.

We don't have to because most of it is taken out and eaten somewhere
else. Somehow, even when it's busy, we always get a table if we want
to stay put.
>


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:00:07 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
wrote:

> On Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:44:27 PM UTC-7, sf wrote:
> >
> > Haven't tried 5 Guys and hadn't heard of Smashburger before this, but
> > try In N Out sometime - they're expanding and may be in your area
> > soon.
>
> Where did you see In & Out is expanding? I would love to see them up here- they would do great! I see we have a Carl's Jr coming to town- I & O would be so much better!

It seems to be spreading East via the southwest. Did you know there's
a Facebook page devoted to luring them up there? Considering the
dot.com population of Seattle & Redmond, I'm surprised they aren't up
there already!
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring...e/396634994135

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 9/12/13 2:17 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:

> Bread was so dry after the toasting even a quart of water wasn't enough to
> choke that bitch down. I ordered the steak and cheese....

If you let them toast the bread, or if you order a cheese steak at
Subway, you're the idiot.

Next time you go to Dairy Queen, try ordering their Italian cold-cut
sandwich.

-- Larry

casa contenta boner stalked Ophelia again:

> On 9/12/2013 10:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:35:17 +0100, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> I sometimes walk past a Subway and it always look pretty full. I
>>>> can't give
>>>> a personal observation because I've never been in, but it must
>>>> make some people happy.
>>>
>>> People will eventually wise up once they discover places that offer
>>> real sandwiches. A favorite chain of mine is Jersey Mikes.
>>>
>>> Remember that many people out there eat food just for sustenance
>>> rather than for flavor.
>>
>> I've seen some of my neighbours in there. Perhaps they just meet
>> friends ... or perhaps they have no taste)
>
> My but you truly are the catty sort...
>
>> My DIL used to manage one but we never got there. I must ask if she
>> ate that stuff.
>
> So you can make fun of her?

You just can't back off the stalking, eh, Casa Boner "so complicated"?

Why keep changing nyms back and forth when your sole purpose here is to
stalk and create hate and discontent? That's "so complicated", isn't it?

Try to be a more efficient stalkerk00k.

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