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"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 17:43:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
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>>
>>
>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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>>> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:28:40 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>>>>"Cheri" wrote:
>>>>>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Cheri" wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But the dried seeds don't affect me at all! I don't know if I am
>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>> allergic, but I am not going near any to find out
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good plan, once burned and all that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh yes!! A long time ago but I remember how frightening it was!
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>> content to admire from a distance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, me too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Do they affect you too?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sunflower seeds put lead in my pencil...
>>>>> http://www.giantseeds.com/
>>>>> for gals it's pumpkin seeds.
>>>>> http://www.giantseeds.com/pumpkinseeds.html
>>>>
>>>>We'll be ok then, I put both pumpkin and sunflower seeds in my bread <g>
>>>
>>> Hmm, we gotta do lunch!

>>
>>lol I could just share my recipe <g>

>
> I thought we'd make a sandwich. <g>


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On 9/16/2013 3:57 AM, JBurns wrote:

> Nice picture, however it does not look like phlox to me. It is a
> vinca.
>
> Can be invasive and displace native species.


I wondered about that, too. I have invasive vinca but where they've
taken over, I'm not too worried about. I only like them in the mid to
late spring when they bloom. Mine are a blue-purple. I might have to
kill them off, though, because there's also a lot of poison ivy and
poison sumac in the same place.

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Cheryl wrote:
> On 9/16/2013 3:57 AM, JBurns wrote:
>
>> Nice picture, however it does not look like phlox to me. It is a
>> vinca.
>>
>> Can be invasive and displace native species.

>
> I wondered about that, too. I have invasive vinca but where they've
> taken over, I'm not too worried about. I only like them in the mid to
> late spring when they bloom. Mine are a blue-purple. I might have to
> kill them off, though, because there's also a lot of poison ivy and
> poison sumac in the same place.
>

I wasn't as wise about vinca at the last house, but having learned my
lesson, I now have it ONLY in a totally contained area next to my
driveway. The funny thing is that when I was a kid, we had an area of
vinca in the yard and it wasn't the least bit invasive, and I am
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Brooklyn1 wrote:
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> The birds I feed planted black oil sunflower seeds, they dropped down
> between the large pine bark nugget mulch where the birds couldn't
> retrieve them, so they sprouted... next year I will plant lots of
> black oil sunflowers:
> http://i42.tinypic.com/14ipptu.jpg
> http://i42.tinypic.com/6sfh8l.jpg
>

I keep thinking I need to plant sunflowers. I don't particularly like
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On 9/16/2013 3:57 AM, JBurns wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:22:45 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:04:27 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" wrote:
>>>>> Out beyond my property line, in the middle of dry, dusty sand, a bird
>>>>> dropped a seed. And here is the hardy creeping phlox:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/ji...94167.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>> Pretty If they creep they will give good ground cover.
>>>
>>> Sadly, my old software didn't allow me to see that picture.

>>
>> For me I need to copy and paste photobucket links into my browser..
>> just double clicking on that link doesn't work. Tinylink.com works
>> better.

>
> Nice picture, however it does not look like phlox to me. It is a
> vinca.
>
> Can be invasive and displace native species.
>
> JB
>

I'm not a gardener but I know a few people who live here who plant
flowers and such all the time. That is a variety of phlox that grows in
South Carolina.

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On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:21:18 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 17:43:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:28:40 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
om...
>>>>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>>>>>"Cheri" wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Cheri" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But the dried seeds don't affect me at all! I don't know if I am
>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>> allergic, but I am not going near any to find out
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good plan, once burned and all that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh yes!! A long time ago but I remember how frightening it was!
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>> content to admire from a distance
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep, me too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Do they affect you too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sunflower seeds put lead in my pencil...
>>>>>> http://www.giantseeds.com/
>>>>>> for gals it's pumpkin seeds.
>>>>>> http://www.giantseeds.com/pumpkinseeds.html
>>>>>
>>>>>We'll be ok then, I put both pumpkin and sunflower seeds in my bread <g>
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, we gotta do lunch!
>>>
>>>lol I could just share my recipe <g>

>>
>> I thought we'd make a sandwich. <g>

>
>I'll tell you how to make the bread and you can take it from there


And I was going to share my mustard.
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On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:33:48 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:57:28 +0800, JBurns >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:22:45 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:04:27 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" wrote:
>>>>> > Out beyond my property line, in the middle of dry, dusty sand, a bird
>>>>> > dropped a seed. And here is the hardy creeping phlox:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/ji...94167.jpg.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty If they creep they will give good ground cover.
>>>>
>>>>Sadly, my old software didn't allow me to see that picture.
>>>
>>>For me I need to copy and paste photobucket links into my browser..
>>>just double clicking on that link doesn't work. Tinylink.com works
>>>better.

>>
>>Nice picture, however it does not look like phlox to me. It is a
>>vinca. Can be invasive and displace native species.

>
>Were you so sure you'd not have deleted my photo link and left Jill's.


Check again, I did not delete anything. I was commenting on the link
above, which is not phlox.

>
>Vinca is common periwinkle, a very different plant.
>http://www.ngb.org/year_of/index.cfm?YOID=7
>My phlox looks exactly like those in this picture, click on the
>picture to enlarge, check the leaves too:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlox
>Mine is fenced, if not it would be deer fodder... it could never be
>invasive where I live... I tried planting it unfenced LOL-LOL.
>Mine with more detail... this proves it's phlox and not vinca:
>http://i44.tinypic.com/2liiik7.jpg


I saw your pictures of phlox earlier in this thread. I specifically
commented on the link above, which is entitled "Lonely Phlox". Phlox
it is not.

JB

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On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 17:23:16 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>Cheryl wrote:
>> On 9/16/2013 3:57 AM, JBurns wrote:
>>
>>> Nice picture, however it does not look like phlox to me. It is a
>>> vinca.
>>>
>>> Can be invasive and displace native species.

>>
>> I wondered about that, too. I have invasive vinca but where they've
>> taken over, I'm not too worried about. I only like them in the mid to
>> late spring when they bloom. Mine are a blue-purple. I might have to
>> kill them off, though, because there's also a lot of poison ivy and
>> poison sumac in the same place.
>>

>I wasn't as wise about vinca at the last house, but having learned my
>lesson, I now have it ONLY in a totally contained area next to my
>driveway. The funny thing is that when I was a kid, we had an area of
>vinca in the yard and it wasn't the least bit invasive, and I am
>speaking of the same town.


It can be a great groundcover where nothing else will grow.

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"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:21:18 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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>>> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 17:43:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:28:40 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>>>>>news:s1tb39dct4e27emq4d62eiekvql8g9sj90@4ax. com...
>>>>>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>>>>>>"Cheri" wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Cheri" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But the dried seeds don't affect me at all! I don't know if I
>>>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>> allergic, but I am not going near any to find out
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Good plan, once burned and all that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oh yes!! A long time ago but I remember how frightening it was!
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>> content to admire from a distance
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep, me too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Do they affect you too?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sunflower seeds put lead in my pencil...
>>>>>>> http://www.giantseeds.com/
>>>>>>> for gals it's pumpkin seeds.
>>>>>>> http://www.giantseeds.com/pumpkinseeds.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We'll be ok then, I put both pumpkin and sunflower seeds in my bread
>>>>>><g>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm, we gotta do lunch!
>>>>
>>>>lol I could just share my recipe <g>
>>>
>>> I thought we'd make a sandwich. <g>

>>
>>I'll tell you how to make the bread and you can take it from there

>
> And I was going to share my mustard.


eww I don't like mustard!

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On 9/16/2013 8:33 PM, JBurns wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:33:48 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:57:28 +0800, JBurns >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:22:45 -0400, Brooklyn1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:04:27 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "jmcquown" wrote:
>>>>>>> Out beyond my property line, in the middle of dry, dusty sand, a bird
>>>>>>> dropped a seed. And here is the hardy creeping phlox:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/ji...94167.jpg.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pretty If they creep they will give good ground cover.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly, my old software didn't allow me to see that picture.
>>>>
>>>> For me I need to copy and paste photobucket links into my browser..
>>>> just double clicking on that link doesn't work. Tinylink.com works
>>>> better.
>>>
>>> Nice picture, however it does not look like phlox to me. It is a
>>> vinca. Can be invasive and displace native species.

>>
>> Were you so sure you'd not have deleted my photo link and left Jill's.

>
> Check again, I did not delete anything. I was commenting on the link
> above, which is not phlox.
>
>>
>> Vinca is common periwinkle, a very different plant.
>> http://www.ngb.org/year_of/index.cfm?YOID=7
>> My phlox looks exactly like those in this picture, click on the
>> picture to enlarge, check the leaves too:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlox
>> Mine is fenced, if not it would be deer fodder... it could never be
>> invasive where I live... I tried planting it unfenced LOL-LOL.
>> Mine with more detail... this proves it's phlox and not vinca:
>> http://i44.tinypic.com/2liiik7.jpg

>
> I saw your pictures of phlox earlier in this thread. I specifically
> commented on the link above, which is entitled "Lonely Phlox". Phlox
> it is not.
>
> JB
>

Tell it to the neighbors who are always planting flowers. They're the
ones who told me it's a creeping phlox. I'm not a gardener. I don't
plant stuff. I don't fertilize/add plant food to the existing plants,
either. The azaleas (and camelias) do just fine without any help from
me, aside from cutting them back after they are done blooming.

Regardless of whether it's a creeping phlox or a vinca, I didn't plant
that lone plant, a bird did.

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"Ophelia" wrote:
>"Brooklyn1" wrote:
>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>> "Brooklyn1" wrote:
>>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>>> "Brooklyn1" wrote:
>>>>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>>>>> "Brooklyn1" wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>"Cheri" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Cheri" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the dried seeds don't affect me at all! I don't know if I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>> still allergic, but I am not going near any to find out
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good plan, once burned and all that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh yes!! A long time ago but I remember how frightening it was!
>>>>>>>>>>> I am content to admire from a distance
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yep, me too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Do they affect you too?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sunflower seeds put lead in my pencil...
>>>>>>>> http://www.giantseeds.com/
>>>>>>>> for gals it's pumpkin seeds.
>>>>>>>> http://www.giantseeds.com/pumpkinseeds.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>We'll be ok then, I put both pumpkin and sunflower seeds in my bread
>>>>>>><g>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm, we gotta do lunch!
>>>>>
>>>>>lol I could just share my recipe <g>
>>>>
>>>> I thought we'd make a sandwich. <g>
>>>
>>>I'll tell you how to make the bread and you can take it from there

>>
>> And I was going to share my mustard.

>
>eww I don't like mustard!


You'd love my honey mustard, I make it myself.
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>>eww I don't like mustard!

>
> You'd love my honey mustard, I make it myself.


Do you make French mustard? It is the only one I like, and even then in
very small quantities.

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"Ophelia" wrote:
>"Brooklyn1" wrote:
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>>>eww I don't like mustard!

>>
>> You'd love my honey mustard, I make it myself.

>
>Do you make French mustard?


Of course... I can do French's and Dijon.

>It is the only one I like, and even then in
>very small quantities.


Well, swallow what you can.

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On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:13:19 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> Well, swallow what you can.


That's marty's way.
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JBurns wrote:
> It can be a great groundcover where nothing else will grow.
>
> JB


I initially thought of using it for ground cover, but it is too invasive
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> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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>
>
> >>eww I don't like mustard!

>
> >

>
> > You'd love my honey mustard, I make it myself.

>
>
>
> Do you make French mustard? It is the only one I like, and even then in
>
> very small quantities.



"Uh - oh............."

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On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:06:31 -0400, jmcquown >
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>On 9/16/2013 8:33 PM, JBurns wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:33:48 -0400, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:57:28 +0800, JBurns >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:22:45 -0400, Brooklyn1
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:04:27 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "jmcquown" wrote:
>>>>>>>> Out beyond my property line, in the middle of dry, dusty sand, a bird
>>>>>>>> dropped a seed. And here is the hardy creeping phlox:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/ji...94167.jpg.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pretty If they creep they will give good ground cover.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sadly, my old software didn't allow me to see that picture.
>>>>>
>>>>> For me I need to copy and paste photobucket links into my browser..
>>>>> just double clicking on that link doesn't work. Tinylink.com works
>>>>> better.
>>>>
>>>> Nice picture, however it does not look like phlox to me. It is a
>>>> vinca. Can be invasive and displace native species.
>>>
>>> Were you so sure you'd not have deleted my photo link and left Jill's.

>>
>> Check again, I did not delete anything. I was commenting on the link
>> above, which is not phlox.
>>
>>>
>>> Vinca is common periwinkle, a very different plant.
>>> http://www.ngb.org/year_of/index.cfm?YOID=7
>>> My phlox looks exactly like those in this picture, click on the
>>> picture to enlarge, check the leaves too:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlox
>>> Mine is fenced, if not it would be deer fodder... it could never be
>>> invasive where I live... I tried planting it unfenced LOL-LOL.
>>> Mine with more detail... this proves it's phlox and not vinca:
>>> http://i44.tinypic.com/2liiik7.jpg

>>
>> I saw your pictures of phlox earlier in this thread. I specifically
>> commented on the link above, which is entitled "Lonely Phlox". Phlox
>> it is not.
>>
>> JB
>>

>Tell it to the neighbors who are always planting flowers. They're the
>ones who told me it's a creeping phlox. I'm not a gardener. I don't
>plant stuff. I don't fertilize/add plant food to the existing plants,
>either. The azaleas (and camelias) do just fine without any help from
>me, aside from cutting them back after they are done blooming.


I love to garden. If your neighbours call it phlox that's OK, because
it really doesn't matter. I just like to get my names right because
then evyone nows exactly what they are speaking of.

Having said that, fish is a nightmare for me. What we call one thing
here is a completely different fish on the other side of the country.
>
>Regardless of whether it's a creeping phlox or a vinca, I didn't plant
>that lone plant, a bird did.


They are the best sort of acquisitions, free and a surprise.

JB

>
>Jill

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On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 22:22:55 +0100, "Ophelia"
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>
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>
> >>eww I don't like mustard!

> >
> > You'd love my honey mustard, I make it myself.

>
> Do you make French mustard? It is the only one I like, and even then in
> very small quantities.
>


French mustard as in Dijon? I thought you don't like anything with
heat.


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> > wrote:
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>>
>>
>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>
>> >>eww I don't like mustard!
>> >
>> > You'd love my honey mustard, I make it myself.

>>
>> Do you make French mustard? It is the only one I like, and even then in
>> very small quantities.
>>

>
> French mustard as in Dijon? I thought you don't like anything with
> heat.


No, it's that dark mild mustard, there is no heat in it.
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On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:06:23 +0100, "Ophelia"
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>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 22:22:55 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> >>
> >> >>eww I don't like mustard!
> >> >
> >> > You'd love my honey mustard, I make it myself.
> >>
> >> Do you make French mustard? It is the only one I like, and even then in
> >> very small quantities.
> >>

> >
> > French mustard as in Dijon? I thought you don't like anything with
> > heat.

>
> No, it's that dark mild mustard, there is no heat in it.
> --


Would you please post your recipe?

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> On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:06:23 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
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>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
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>> > On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 22:22:55 +0100, "Ophelia"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> >>eww I don't like mustard!
>> >> >
>> >> > You'd love my honey mustard, I make it myself.
>> >>
>> >> Do you make French mustard? It is the only one I like, and even then
>> >> in
>> >> very small quantities.
>> >>
>> >
>> > French mustard as in Dijon? I thought you don't like anything with
>> > heat.

>>
>> No, it's that dark mild mustard, there is no heat in it.
>> --

>
> Would you please post your recipe?


I don't eat enough to make it, I just buy a jar and that lasts forever. No
one eats it but me.

French dark mustard it is called.
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> > On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:06:23 +0100, "Ophelia"
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> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > French mustard as in Dijon? I thought you don't like anything with
> >> > heat.
> >>
> >> No, it's that dark mild mustard, there is no heat in it.
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> >
> > Would you please post your recipe?

>
> I don't eat enough to make it, I just buy a jar and that lasts forever. No
> one eats it but me.
>
> French dark mustard it is called.
> --

I googled and Saintsbury sells it. It looks smooth and not
particularly dark to me... so it's probably what we call
"deli-mustard" over here.

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On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 08:29:24 -0400, James Silverton
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> There's one another good point about periwinkle (vinca), deer don't eat
> it. Maybe they should but they seem to know it's poisonous.


My grandmother had a big area that was planted in what she called
Pachysandra, but oddly enough I don't remember it looking like what I
googled - I remember it looking more like the periwinkle being
discussed... and it was shade tolerant.

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> On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 10:26:39 +0100, "Ophelia"
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>> "sf" > wrote in message
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>> > On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:06:23 +0100, "Ophelia"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > French mustard as in Dijon? I thought you don't like anything with
>> >> > heat.
>> >>
>> >> No, it's that dark mild mustard, there is no heat in it.
>> >> --
>> >
>> > Would you please post your recipe?

>>
>> I don't eat enough to make it, I just buy a jar and that lasts forever.
>> No
>> one eats it but me.
>>
>> French dark mustard it is called.
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> I googled and Saintsbury sells it. It looks smooth and not
> particularly dark to me... so it's probably what we call
> "deli-mustard" over here.


When you have a jar in front of you, then tell me it is not dark but, yes,
it is smooth<g> I don't know deli-mustard so I can't comment.
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> We probably figured out oysters were good eating by watching
> shore birds crack them open on rocks.


Ok Jill. I've just got to tease you on this one. BAD EXAMPLE! No
birds get oysters and fly up and drop them on rocks. NONE do that. In
your defense though, you've probably never harvested live oysters in
the sea, so you are excused. heheheh

Newborn oysters (spat or scat?) (I'm not looking this up) get spurted
out of mother's shell and they drift with the current until the first
thing they bump against. They attach to this and that's where they
will spend their entire lives. In nature, it's either rocks or other
established oyster shells. Oyster beds can be deep (where no birds
will go) or oysters can attach to shallow water rocks and other
oysters on the same rock.

The shallow water oysters (and they are just as good) are exposed
during low tides and underwater at high tides.

Even though exposed at low tides, there's no bird on earth that can
pry one off a rock or oyster cluster. I get them often here and you
really need a pry bar to separate them from a rock and then from each
other.

I'll bet it's a very rare seagull that has ever tasted an oyster.

G.

Clams are a little more doable for a bird if they know to dig in the
sand.
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