Today is "Meat Smoking day at George and Becca's" It takes all day and
is a pain in the ass to do it, so when we get the smoker out, we load it
up. I have a 14 pound brisket, a 10 pound pork shoulder and 2 big slabs
of ribs in it..... about 40 pounds of meat. It will run all day and
tomorrow we will slice, portion and freeze everything. When we do it
like this, we only have to smoke twice a year at most.

I'm not big into this stuff, but when you live in Texas, you have to
smoke at least 20 pounds of meat per person, per year or they fine you.
(Y'all ain't from around here, are you boy?")

I can not recommend the Bradley Smoker.
http://www.amazon.com/Bradley-BTIS1-.../dp/B000FK2DNM
In spite of light use, ours is falling apart. The smoke generator works
fine but the heating element and smoking cabinet is pretty shoddy. Some
day if I get up the ambition, I'll get an old refrigerator and attach
the smoke generator to that.

George L

On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 08:34:15 -0500, George Leppla
> wrote:

>Today is "Meat Smoking day at George and Becca's" It takes all day and
>is a pain in the ass to do it, so when we get the smoker out, we load it
>up. I have a 14 pound brisket, a 10 pound pork shoulder and 2 big slabs
>of ribs in it..... about 40 pounds of meat. It will run all day and
>tomorrow we will slice, portion and freeze everything. When we do it
>like this, we only have to smoke twice a year at most.
>
>I'm not big into this stuff, but when you live in Texas, you have to
>smoke at least 20 pounds of meat per person, per year or they fine you.
>(Y'all ain't from around here, are you boy?")
>
>I can not recommend the Bradley Smoker.
>http://www.amazon.com/Bradley-BTIS1-.../dp/B000FK2DNM
>In spite of light use, ours is falling apart. The smoke generator works
>fine but the heating element and smoking cabinet is pretty shoddy. Some
>day if I get up the ambition, I'll get an old refrigerator and attach
>the smoke generator to that.
>
>George L

Never tried the Bradley, but had a couple of charcoal and wood
smokers.
I use a gas smoker and wood chunks. Great Outdoor Smoky Mountain for
less than $150.

I'm in New England and exempt from the minimum as log as we make clam
chowder once a year.

On Saturday, September 14, 2013 6:34:15 AM UTC-7, George L wrote:
> Today is "Meat Smoking day at George and Becca's" It takes all day and
> is a pain in the ass to do it, so when we get the smoker out, we load it
> up. I have a 14 pound brisket, a 10 pound pork shoulder and 2 big slabs
> of ribs in it..... about 40 pounds of meat. It will run all day and
> tomorrow we will slice, portion and freeze everything. When we do it
> like this, we only have to smoke twice a year at most.
>
>
>

>
> I can not recommend the Bradley Smoker.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Bradley-BTIS1-.../dp/B000FK2DNM
>
> In spite of light use, ours is falling apart. The smoke generator works
> fine but the heating element and smoking cabinet is pretty shoddy. Some
> day if I get up the ambition, I'll get an old refrigerator and attach
> the smoke generator to that.
>

A friend smokes only fish that he catches, and uses a Little Chief for that
purpose. The heating element burnt out, so he replaced it with a little hot
plate.

A former co-worker uses a fridge, but for cold smoking only. The fridge is uphill from the smoke box.

"George Leppla" > wrote in message
...
> Today is "Meat Smoking day at George and Becca's" It takes all day and is
> a pain in the ass to do it, so when we get the smoker out, we load it up.
> I have a 14 pound brisket, a 10 pound pork shoulder and 2 big slabs of
> ribs in it..... about 40 pounds of meat. It will run all day and tomorrow
> we will slice, portion and freeze everything. When we do it like this, we
> only have to smoke twice a year at most.
>
> I'm not big into this stuff, but when you live in Texas, you have to smoke
> at least 20 pounds of meat per person, per year or they fine you. (Y'all
> ain't from around here, are you boy?")
>

And mandatory ho-down attendance.

Actually, my buddy who moved to Texas several years ago tells me that you
are required to attend mega-churches and high school football games or you
might as well be arrested.

On Saturday, September 14, 2013 1:42:39 PM UTC-7, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "George Leppla" > wrote in message
>

>
> > I'm not big into this stuff, but when you live in Texas, you have to smoke
>
> > at least 20 pounds of meat per person, per year or they fine you. (Y'all
> > ain't from around here, are you boy?")
>
>
> And mandatory ho-down attendance.
>
>
>
> Actually, my buddy who moved to Texas several years ago tells me that you
> are required to attend mega-churches and high school football games or you
> might as well be arrested.

My Catholic buddy whose dad teaches at Texas Tech says in Lubbock they assume
if you attend Catholic church you must be Mexican.

On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 14:46:46 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

>On Saturday, September 14, 2013 1:42:39 PM UTC-7, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "George Leppla" > wrote in message
>>
>
>>
>> > I'm not big into this stuff, but when you live in Texas, you have to smoke
>>
>> > at least 20 pounds of meat per person, per year or they fine you. (Y'all
>> > ain't from around here, are you boy?")
>>
>>
>> And mandatory ho-down attendance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually, my buddy who moved to Texas several years ago tells me that you
>> are required to attend mega-churches and high school football games or you
>> might as well be arrested.
>
>My Catholic buddy whose dad teaches at Texas Tech says in Lubbock they assume
>if you attend Catholic church you must be Mexican.

I noticed recently that roadside blood tests are now law in Texas...
nice!

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
news
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 14:46:46 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, September 14, 2013 1:42:39 PM UTC-7, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>> "George Leppla" > wrote in message
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> > I'm not big into this stuff, but when you live in Texas, you have to
>>> > smoke
>>>
>>> > at least 20 pounds of meat per person, per year or they fine you.
>>> > (Y'all
>>> > ain't from around here, are you boy?")
>>>
>>>
>>> And mandatory ho-down attendance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, my buddy who moved to Texas several years ago tells me that
>>> you
>>> are required to attend mega-churches and high school football games or
>>> you
>>> might as well be arrested.
>>
>>My Catholic buddy whose dad teaches at Texas Tech says in Lubbock they
>>assume
>>if you attend Catholic church you must be Mexican.
>
> I noticed recently that roadside blood tests are now law in Texas...
> nice!

Texas has some of the most hard core police state laws ever anywhere in this
country and yet they pretend they are freedom lovers as long as any bozo,
crack head, mentally defective individual can pack heat.

On 9/14/2013 9:34 AM, George Leppla wrote:
> Today is "Meat Smoking day at George and Becca's" It takes all day and
> is a pain in the ass to do it, so when we get the smoker out, we load it
> up. I have a 14 pound brisket, a 10 pound pork shoulder and 2 big slabs
> of ribs in it..... about 40 pounds of meat. It will run all day and
SNIP
> George L

I try to do the same, load up the cooker, uses the same amount of
charcoal. Plus I feel the large amount of meat gives off moisture to
help control dry out better.

On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 15:30:26 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>news
>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 14:46:46 -0700 (PDT),
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Saturday, September 14, 2013 1:42:39 PM UTC-7, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>> "George Leppla" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> > I'm not big into this stuff, but when you live in Texas, you have to
>>>> > smoke
>>>>
>>>> > at least 20 pounds of meat per person, per year or they fine you.
>>>> > (Y'all
>>>> > ain't from around here, are you boy?")
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And mandatory ho-down attendance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually, my buddy who moved to Texas several years ago tells me that
>>>> you
>>>> are required to attend mega-churches and high school football games or
>>>> you
>>>> might as well be arrested.
>>>
>>>My Catholic buddy whose dad teaches at Texas Tech says in Lubbock they
>>>assume
>>>if you attend Catholic church you must be Mexican.
>>
>> I noticed recently that roadside blood tests are now law in Texas...
>> nice!
>
>Texas has some of the most hard core police state laws ever anywhere in this
>country

How about that Joe Arpao (sp) sheriff... what a wing-nut. Really
disturbing that somebody like that seemingly has free reign to do
whatever he wants... or whatever the prison industry tells him to do,
at least.

>and yet they pretend they are freedom lovers as long as any bozo,
>crack head, mentally defective individual can pack heat.

Depends if you literally mean mental defectives, or you just don't
like the public owning firearms...

On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 18:50:52 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:59:27 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> I noticed recently that roadside blood tests are now law in Texas...
>> nice!
>
>They don't do it roadside. They do it in a medical trailer after you
>refuse a breath test and after a judge issues a warrant.

Well, that's still roadside to me.

> Of course
>the judges never decline to issue a warrant.
>
>And if you manage to then pass the blood alcohol test, you are still
>arrested and charged with "Suspicion of being under the influence of
>an illicit substance". Cops and judges hate to be proven wrong so you
>have to be charged with SOMETHING.

Just wonderful.

On 9/14/2013 8:34 AM, George Leppla wrote:
> Today is "Meat Smoking day at George and Becca's" It takes all day and
> is a pain in the ass to do it, so when we get the smoker out, we load it
> up. I have a 14 pound brisket, a 10 pound pork shoulder and 2 big slabs
> of ribs in it..... about 40 pounds of meat. It will run all day and
> tomorrow we will slice, portion and freeze everything. When we do it
> like this, we only have to smoke twice a year at most.

So this afternoon we sliced and portioned the brisket and pork shoulder
for the freezer.

We ended up with 15 pounds of usable meat (brisket and pork shoulder). I
thought the waste factor was pretty high, but I did closely trim both
pieces. The saving grace was that the meat was cheap... so the bottom
line is that the finished product cost $2.21 a pound... plus the time
and electricity.

The meat came out well. The ribs... not so much. I smoked them for 5
hours then wrapped them tightly and finished them in the oven. Time
must have gotten away from me because they were way too tender for me.
The bones just slide out. Becca likes them like this but I like a
little more "bite" on my ribs. They taste really good, though. The 2
racks will give us 4 meals for 2 people at around $4 a meal (ribs were
on sale for 99 cents a pound... as was the shoulder)

George L

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
news
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 15:30:26 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 14:46:46 -0700 (PDT),
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Saturday, September 14, 2013 1:42:39 PM UTC-7, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>>> "George Leppla" > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > I'm not big into this stuff, but when you live in Texas, you have to
>>>>> > smoke
>>>>>
>>>>> > at least 20 pounds of meat per person, per year or they fine you.
>>>>> > (Y'all
>>>>> > ain't from around here, are you boy?")
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And mandatory ho-down attendance.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, my buddy who moved to Texas several years ago tells me that
>>>>> you
>>>>> are required to attend mega-churches and high school football games or
>>>>> you
>>>>> might as well be arrested.
>>>>
>>>>My Catholic buddy whose dad teaches at Texas Tech says in Lubbock they
>>>>assume
>>>>if you attend Catholic church you must be Mexican.
>>>
>>> I noticed recently that roadside blood tests are now law in Texas...
>>> nice!
>>
>>Texas has some of the most hard core police state laws ever anywhere in
>>this
>>country
>
> How about that Joe Arpao (sp) sheriff... what a wing-nut. Really
> disturbing that somebody like that seemingly has free reign to do
> whatever he wants... or whatever the prison industry tells him to do,
> at least.
>
>>and yet they pretend they are freedom lovers as long as any bozo,
>>crack head, mentally defective individual can pack heat.
>
> Depends if you literally mean mental defectives, or you just don't
> like the public owning firearms...
>

I mean mentally defective people as in the medical definition. People with
long records of mental illness can carry weapons in Texas. Some years ago,
I think 15, a woman was sentenced to 144 years in prison. Why? She ran a
little business where she sold sex toys at private house parties. She was
stopped for a traffic violation and during the mandatory police search of
her vehicle (screw the Constitution this is Texas) they found 12 vibrators.
Texas law demands 12 years for each violation. Sex toys wedre and still are
still illegal in Texas. The poor woman finally did prevail but only after
losing everything she had and having her life ruined by an aggressive Texas
DA. So you can carry a deadly weapon even if you are insane but heaven help
you if you are caught with a vibrator in Texas.

Yee haw.

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 15:59:00 -0500, George Leppla
> wrote:

> On 9/14/2013 8:34 AM, George Leppla wrote:
> > Today is "Meat Smoking day at George and Becca's" It takes all day and
> > is a pain in the ass to do it, so when we get the smoker out, we load it
> > up. I have a 14 pound brisket, a 10 pound pork shoulder and 2 big slabs
> > of ribs in it..... about 40 pounds of meat. It will run all day and
> > tomorrow we will slice, portion and freeze everything. When we do it
> > like this, we only have to smoke twice a year at most.
>
> So this afternoon we sliced and portioned the brisket and pork shoulder
> for the freezer.
>
> We ended up with 15 pounds of usable meat (brisket and pork shoulder). I
> thought the waste factor was pretty high, but I did closely trim both
> pieces. The saving grace was that the meat was cheap... so the bottom
> line is that the finished product cost $2.21 a pound... plus the time
> and electricity.
>
> The meat came out well. The ribs... not so much. I smoked them for 5
> hours then wrapped them tightly and finished them in the oven. Time
> must have gotten away from me because they were way too tender for me.
> The bones just slide out. Becca likes them like this but I like a
> little more "bite" on my ribs. They taste really good, though. The 2
> racks will give us 4 meals for 2 people at around $4 a meal (ribs were
> on sale for 99 cents a pound... as was the shoulder)
>
All in all I'd say you made out like a bandit in the cost department
and I know you like what you make, so other than the rib "problem"
things worked out well for you!


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 9/15/13 5:21 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:

> I mean mentally defective people as in the medical definition. People with
> long records of mental illness can carry weapons in Texas. Some years ago,
> I think 15, a woman was sentenced to 144 years in prison. Why? She ran a
> little business where she sold sex toys at private house parties. She was
> stopped for a traffic violation and during the mandatory police search of
> her vehicle (screw the Constitution this is Texas) they found 12 vibrators.
> Texas law demands 12 years for each violation. Sex toys wedre and still are
> still illegal in Texas. The poor woman finally did prevail but only after
> losing everything she had and having her life ruined by an aggressive Texas
> DA. So you can carry a deadly weapon even if you are insane but heaven help
> you if you are caught with a vibrator in Texas.
>
> Yee haw.
>

Do you have a cite for this claim?

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:03:03 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 06:37:05 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 18:50:52 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:59:27 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>>>
>>>> I noticed recently that roadside blood tests are now law in Texas...
>>>> nice!
>>>
>>>They don't do it roadside. They do it in a medical trailer after you
>>>refuse a breath test and after a judge issues a warrant.
>>
>> Well, that's still roadside to me.
>
>It's a trailer in a parking lot. You are driven there by the cops.
>"Roadside" makes it sound like they're drawing blood from you while
>you're still leaning against your car or in a police car at the stop
>site.

That's how many articles have described it, then after your last reply
I assumed these tests are being done where the medical trailer was
located (roadside)... thanks for the clarification.

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:21:31 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>news
>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 15:30:26 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>>news >>>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 14:46:46 -0700 (PDT),
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Saturday, September 14, 2013 1:42:39 PM UTC-7, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>>>> "George Leppla" > wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > I'm not big into this stuff, but when you live in Texas, you have to
>>>>>> > smoke
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > at least 20 pounds of meat per person, per year or they fine you.
>>>>>> > (Y'all
>>>>>> > ain't from around here, are you boy?")
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And mandatory ho-down attendance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, my buddy who moved to Texas several years ago tells me that
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> are required to attend mega-churches and high school football games or
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> might as well be arrested.
>>>>>
>>>>>My Catholic buddy whose dad teaches at Texas Tech says in Lubbock they
>>>>>assume
>>>>>if you attend Catholic church you must be Mexican.
>>>>
>>>> I noticed recently that roadside blood tests are now law in Texas...
>>>> nice!
>>>
>>>Texas has some of the most hard core police state laws ever anywhere in
>>>this
>>>country
>>
>> How about that Joe Arpao (sp) sheriff... what a wing-nut. Really
>> disturbing that somebody like that seemingly has free reign to do
>> whatever he wants... or whatever the prison industry tells him to do,
>> at least.
>>
>>>and yet they pretend they are freedom lovers as long as any bozo,
>>>crack head, mentally defective individual can pack heat.
>>
>> Depends if you literally mean mental defectives, or you just don't
>> like the public owning firearms...
>>
>
>I mean mentally defective people as in the medical definition. People with
>long records of mental illness can carry weapons in Texas.

Fair enough...

>Some years ago,
>I think 15, a woman was sentenced to 144 years in prison. Why? She ran a
>little business where she sold sex toys at private house parties. She was
>stopped for a traffic violation and during the mandatory police search of
>her vehicle (screw the Constitution this is Texas) they found 12 vibrators.
>Texas law demands 12 years for each violation. Sex toys wedre and still are
>still illegal in Texas. The poor woman finally did prevail but only after
>losing everything she had and having her life ruined by an aggressive Texas
>DA. So you can carry a deadly weapon even if you are insane but heaven help
>you if you are caught with a vibrator in Texas.
>
>Yee haw.

I remember reading something about that, or at least I assume it was
the same woman and her dildos.

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 00:49:12 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:

>On 9/15/13 5:21 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>> I mean mentally defective people as in the medical definition. People with
>> long records of mental illness can carry weapons in Texas. Some years ago,
>> I think 15, a woman was sentenced to 144 years in prison. Why? She ran a
>> little business where she sold sex toys at private house parties. She was
>> stopped for a traffic violation and during the mandatory police search of
>> her vehicle (screw the Constitution this is Texas) they found 12 vibrators.
>> Texas law demands 12 years for each violation. Sex toys wedre and still are
>> still illegal in Texas. The poor woman finally did prevail but only after
>> losing everything she had and having her life ruined by an aggressive Texas
>> DA. So you can carry a deadly weapon even if you are insane but heaven help
>> you if you are caught with a vibrator in Texas.
>>
>> Yee haw.
>>
>
>Do you have a cite for this claim?

Not hard to find.

On 9/16/2013 11:56 AM, Jeßus wrote:
>
> That's how many articles have described it, then after your last reply
> I assumed these tests are being done where the medical trailer was
> located (roadside)... thanks for the clarification.
>
Not to worry. Google's self-driving cars will make all this a thing of
the past. I predict that bars are going to have a big jump in sales.
Everybody's going to want to be drunk! Automobile insurance will be like
$100/year. Flying and walking to your car at the airport will be the
most dangerous part of a trip.

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:28:56 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

>On 9/16/2013 11:56 AM, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>> That's how many articles have described it, then after your last reply
>> I assumed these tests are being done where the medical trailer was
>> located (roadside)... thanks for the clarification.
>>
>Not to worry. Google's self-driving cars will make all this a thing of
>the past.

Not where I live, can't that ever see that working here in my
lifetime!

>:I predict that bars are going to have a big jump in sales.
>Everybody's going to want to be drunk! Automobile insurance will be like
>$100/year. Flying and walking to your car at the airport will be the
>most dangerous part of a trip.

Great...

On Monday, September 16, 2013 6:28:56 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
> Not to worry. Google's self-driving cars will make all this a thing of
> the past. I predict that bars are going to have a big jump in sales.
>
But what if the car's fuel contains alcohol?

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:21:31 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 15:30:26 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>>>news >>>>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 14:46:46 -0700 (PDT),
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Saturday, September 14, 2013 1:42:39 PM UTC-7, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>>>>> "George Leppla" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > I'm not big into this stuff, but when you live in Texas, you have
>>>>>>> > to
>>>>>>> > smoke
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > at least 20 pounds of meat per person, per year or they fine you.
>>>>>>> > (Y'all
>>>>>>> > ain't from around here, are you boy?")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And mandatory ho-down attendance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, my buddy who moved to Texas several years ago tells me
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> are required to attend mega-churches and high school football games
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> might as well be arrested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My Catholic buddy whose dad teaches at Texas Tech says in Lubbock they
>>>>>>assume
>>>>>>if you attend Catholic church you must be Mexican.
>>>>>
>>>>> I noticed recently that roadside blood tests are now law in Texas...
>>>>> nice!
>>>>
>>>>Texas has some of the most hard core police state laws ever anywhere in
>>>>this
>>>>country
>>>
>>> How about that Joe Arpao (sp) sheriff... what a wing-nut. Really
>>> disturbing that somebody like that seemingly has free reign to do
>>> whatever he wants... or whatever the prison industry tells him to do,
>>> at least.
>>>
>>>>and yet they pretend they are freedom lovers as long as any bozo,
>>>>crack head, mentally defective individual can pack heat.
>>>
>>> Depends if you literally mean mental defectives, or you just don't
>>> like the public owning firearms...
>>>
>>
>>I mean mentally defective people as in the medical definition. People
>>with
>>long records of mental illness can carry weapons in Texas.
>
> Fair enough...
>
>>Some years ago,
>>I think 15, a woman was sentenced to 144 years in prison. Why? She ran a
>>little business where she sold sex toys at private house parties. She was
>>stopped for a traffic violation and during the mandatory police search of
>>her vehicle (screw the Constitution this is Texas) they found 12
>>vibrators.
>>Texas law demands 12 years for each violation. Sex toys wedre and still
>>are
>>still illegal in Texas. The poor woman finally did prevail but only after
>>losing everything she had and having her life ruined by an aggressive
>>Texas
>>DA. So you can carry a deadly weapon even if you are insane but heaven
>>help
>>you if you are caught with a vibrator in Texas.
>>
>>Yee haw.
>
> I remember reading something about that, or at least I assume it was
> the same woman and her dildos.

Actually she was never sentenced. The DA had charged her with 12 counts of
possessing sex toys and since she was selling them he doubled down on the
charges for a theoretical maximum of 144 years. But the DA was pushing the
case to trial. She was put in jail as she could not post bail. Her lawyer
fees cost her house and all her possessions. When it was over she was
destitute and homeless. Had she been selling guns the same way, she'd never
have even gotten a ticket.

I smelled a rat on the Bradley's when it came to light about the proprietary hockey pucks to make it smoke. They cost a bunch and are hard to find. The Canadians build funny stuff eh? If you want to be a big boy on the electrics snag a Smokin Tex. Pal o mine has one and loves it to pieces. Does a bit of catering with it etc. Its on my agenda so its bound to be good. SmokinTex Pro Series Model 1500 Residential Smoker - Barbecue Electric Smoker Ovens and BBQ Accessories

Jeßus wrote:

> I noticed recently that roadside blood tests are now law in Texas...
> nice!

In italy it's like that since 2002, and the fines, LOL... If you blood
alcohol index is over 1.5, or you show to be positive to any drug (including
a joint 5 days before, as happened to a friend) here's what you get:
- you undergo a trial and your record gets marked for life
- a 4000 to 1000 euros fine
- 1 year withous driviing license
- your car gets towed away from you and auctioned
- if you want your driving licens back you must undergo exams*

Do it a second time and here's the drill:
- you undergo a trial and your record gets marked for life
- a 10000 to 30000 euros fine
- 2 years withous driviing license
- your car gets towed away from you and auctioned
- if you want your driving licens back you must undergo exams*

* Exams: blood for alcool and urine for drugs, passing the first exam allows
one to drive for 3 months then one needs another exam. Passing the second
exam allows one to drive for 6 months, then next exam. Third one gets you 9
months and 4th gives you one year, then everytime they give you one more
year until the point they give you your license with a validity of five
years: after that, one's finally done with the drill.
Total time
3+6+9 months
1 year
2 years
3 years
4 years
Tot 11 1/2 years
BTW everytime one makes the exams, the average expense is around 200 euros,
so let's factor them in: 200*7 = 1400 euros to add to the figures up there.

Nonsense, if you ask me: the right way is more controls, not heavier fines.
And this is demnostrated by the fact that always more people, when they see
an alcol test point, try to escape, often causing much damage in that. And
corruption in the LEO's, also: eberybody knows that higher fines bring
higher corruption for a number of reasons.
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"Un pasto senza vino e' come un giorno senza sole"
Anthelme Brillat Savarin

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 10:56:08 +0200, "ViLco" > wrote:

>Jeßus wrote:
>
>> I noticed recently that roadside blood tests are now law in Texas...
>> nice!
>
>In italy it's like that since 2002, and the fines, LOL... If you blood
>alcohol index is over 1.5, or you show to be positive to any drug (including
>a joint 5 days before, as happened to a friend) here's what you get:
>- you undergo a trial and your record gets marked for life
>- a 4000 to 1000 euros fine
>- 1 year withous driviing license
>- your car gets towed away from you and auctioned
>- if you want your driving licens back you must undergo exams*

<snip>

Good grief... best I don't move to Italy then, I probably have more
THC than blood in my system.

>Nonsense, if you ask me: the right way is more controls, not heavier fines.
>And this is demnostrated by the fact that always more people, when they see
>an alcol test point, try to escape, often causing much damage in that. And
>corruption in the LEO's, also: eberybody knows that higher fines bring
>higher corruption for a number of reasons.

Indeed.

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:59:32 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> Sex toys, such as vibrators, are not illegal in Texas. That ban was
> deemed unconstitutional at least a decade ago.
>
> -sw

That made you and MartyB in KC very happy, eh Sqwerty?

Jeßus wrote:

>>> In italy it's like that since 2002, and the fines, LOL... If you
>>> blood alcohol index is over 1.5, or you show to be positive to any
>>> drug (including a joint 5 days before, as happened to a friend)

>> How does that work? Nobody is high five days after smoking pot. The
>> tests measure for metabolite of THC, not the drug itself. What is
>> measured cannot get anyone high.

> They don't really care that you're not high at the time, obviously.

Exactly. Those swabs rely on sweat and it can test positive for weeks after
smoking
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"Un pasto senza vino e' come un giorno senza sole"
Anthelme Brillat Savarin