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On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 14:57:44 +0100, Janet > wrote:

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>> The only time I would have resorted to violence was when somebody
>> drove down our little road and dumped off three pet rabbits - we
>> suspected they were easter gifts to kids that became inconvenient when
>> summer vacation came along.

>
> :-( We've lived the last 30 years in tourist destination areas where
> this happens every year. Of course if the owners dumped the unwanted pet
> on the street near home there's a good chance someone might know who owned
> it; and (here) if they offload it to a rescue/rehome centre they have to
> pay a contribution. So they take the poor thing to their holiday
> destination and dump it anonymously where there's no cost or come-back.
>
> We've seen pet cats and dogs turned loose on main roads and pet rabbits
> liberated as easy prey to dogs badgers, and hawks. Just yesterday (start
> of big holiday weekend) a terrified strange dog ran back and forth up and
> down our lane for hours; we tried everything but couldnt catch the poor
> thing. It isn't a local dog.
>
>
> Janet UK.


I suppose along with everything disposable, pets get it too. It's
heartbreaking. Two weeks ago my daughter spotted something moving in
the bottom of the garden, sent SIL out to check. Red Persian cat,
heavily abused. Been kicked in the face and his jaw was broken and
someone had tried to set fire to his fur. They took him to the vet
who fixed the jaw up but after two weeks it became clear he had
problems controlling bladder and bowel. Turned out he had some kidney
complaint and in the end they decided to put him down, the vet
estimated he had another couple of months at best. However, they had
all the distress, it really upset both of them.


Which is the reason we only take rescue dogs.

Apols, O here. My main computer is having work done and I am using a wee
notebook. It's not all set up properly so it seems I am posting as NIN <g>

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>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 11:09:00 +0100, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>> b.com...
>>>> On 9/25/2013 11:06 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:35:37 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> snip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been seeing more deer here lately. I was returning from the
>>>>>> store
>>>>>> a few days ago and spotted a doe followed by with two fawns taking a
>>>>>> rather leisurely walk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> We used to see a deer only rarely through here. Now we see families
>>>>> of them going up and down creek. It's because of the drought. There
>>>>> isn't enough food in the nearby foothills. I just hope the big cats
>>>>> don't come down as well. I don't want cougars in my yard.
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>> If other animals are migrating, expect the cougars too. Just keep
>>>> small
>>>> pets inside. Kids too.
>>>
>>> In UK 'cougers' are older women who go after young men
>>> --

>>
>> Sometimes it's the younger men going after the older women !

>
> I know, but it is the woman who are named such/
>

I suppose there is the assumption every "older" woman wants a younger
man. What nonsense!

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On 9/28/2013 12:43 AM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 9/25/2013 11:55 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I had a couple of North American bluejays (different from stellar jays)
>> drinking from the bird bath this morning. They're so pretty!

>
> You don't get those bluejays that far south? I guess they're mostly a
> northern bird. We have tons of them. I like all of their different
> calls. Most people associate them with a loud screeching CAW CAW but
> they do have a softer whistle. They are good look-out birds.
>

I see bluejays occasionally. Not nearly as much as when I lived in west
TN. Same thing with robins. They were all over the place in TN, year
round. I can't recall seeing one here. OTOH, seasonally I now see
bluebirds! Absolutely stunning bright blue feathers with a "red" breast.

>> I've never seen a pileated woodpecker. But I just saw a male downey
>> scooting up a tree. And I see lots of red-bellied woodpeckers.
>> Sometimes they eat on the patio when I scatter seed or put out suet. I
>> love watching the birds.

>
> I haven't seen one (pileated woodpecker) here but my dad took a pic of
> one he saw in his backyard. They look so primitive.
>

I'd like to see a pileated woodpecker. Still have hummingbirds hanging
around. I'll keep the feeder filled until the first cold (heh) snap.

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> I suppose there is the assumption every "older" woman wants a younger
> man. What nonsense!


Expand your horizon? eheh

Speaking as a 60 year old guy, I wouldn't mind a somewhat younger
woman. Not too much younger (and super energetic) though. The
pickings are getting pretty slim at my age. Not a good time to be
single. And speaking of slim pickings, I'm not all that that I used
to be either, so it works both ways. hahaha

Oh well...at least I can say I've "been there, done that" at least
once in my life.

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> Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> I haven't seen one (pileated woodpecker) here but my dad took a pic of
>> one he saw in his backyard. They look so primitive.

>
> "HEY! Who are you calling primitive?"
> http://www.cane.com/wp-content/uploa...woodpecker.jpg


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On 9/28/2013 12:47 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 11:57:19 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/28/2013 7:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 11:09:00 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>>>> b.com...
>>>>>> On 9/25/2013 11:06 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:35:37 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've been seeing more deer here lately. I was returning from the
>>>>>>>> store
>>>>>>>> a few days ago and spotted a doe followed by with two fawns taking a
>>>>>>>> rather leisurely walk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We used to see a deer only rarely through here. Now we see families
>>>>>>> of them going up and down creek. It's because of the drought. There
>>>>>>> isn't enough food in the nearby foothills. I just hope the big cats
>>>>>>> don't come down as well. I don't want cougars in my yard.
>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If other animals are migrating, expect the cougars too. Just keep
>>>>>> small
>>>>>> pets inside. Kids too.
>>>>>
>>>>> In UK 'cougers' are older women who go after young men
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes it's the younger men going after the older women !
>>>
>>> I know, but it is the woman who are named such/
>>>

>> I suppose there is the assumption every "older" woman wants a younger
>> man. What nonsense!
>>
>> Jill

>
> Well a lot of younger men like older women, so what goes around, comes
> around
>

That brought back a memory! I must have been about 38 or thereabouts
when I went out to dinner one evening by myself. (I'm not embarrassed
to dine alone.) As I was leaving the restaurant, a young man (all of 19
or 20) opened the door for me, stopped dead in his tracks and asked,
"Could I have your phone number?" Uh, no. LOL

Jill


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On 9/28/2013 3:13 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 13:21:43 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/28/2013 12:47 PM,
wrote:
>>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 11:57:19 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/28/2013 7:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 11:09:00 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> b.com...
>>>>>>>> On 9/25/2013 11:06 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:35:37 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've been seeing more deer here lately. I was returning from the
>>>>>>>>>> store
>>>>>>>>>> a few days ago and spotted a doe followed by with two fawns taking a
>>>>>>>>>> rather leisurely walk.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We used to see a deer only rarely through here. Now we see families
>>>>>>>>> of them going up and down creek. It's because of the drought. There
>>>>>>>>> isn't enough food in the nearby foothills. I just hope the big cats
>>>>>>>>> don't come down as well. I don't want cougars in my yard.
>>>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If other animals are migrating, expect the cougars too. Just keep
>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>> pets inside. Kids too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In UK 'cougers' are older women who go after young men
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes it's the younger men going after the older women !
>>>>>
>>>>> I know, but it is the woman who are named such/
>>>>>
>>>> I suppose there is the assumption every "older" woman wants a younger
>>>> man. What nonsense!
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Well a lot of younger men like older women, so what goes around, comes
>>> around
>>>

>> That brought back a memory! I must have been about 38 or thereabouts
>> when I went out to dinner one evening by myself. (I'm not embarrassed
>> to dine alone.) As I was leaving the restaurant, a young man (all of 19
>> or 20) opened the door for me, stopped dead in his tracks and asked,
>> "Could I have your phone number?" Uh, no. LOL
>>
>> Jill

>
> You could have smiled nicely - and given him the wrong number
>

Oh, I'm sure I smiled. I was flattered. But why would I want to play
games like that? I wouldn't and I didn't.

Jill
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> If he's otherwise a nice guy you really should bring him to a
> Urologist... in most cases a small pill once a day will cure his leaky
> bladder... you seem rather shallow, like you're so perfect.



Oh, the irony.

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On 9/28/2013 1:21 PM, Gary wrote:

> LOL! The sports car and a "sugar daddy."
> I don't qualify nor do I want a young trophy wife.
> I do still have all my hair and teeth though.
> I'm very fine by myself these days.
> If I meet someone that floors me someday....maybe
> But not actively looking for anyone.


Same with me. I'm happy alone for now.

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On 9/28/2013 3:36 AM, Gary wrote:
> Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> I haven't seen one (pileated woodpecker) here but my dad took a pic of
>> one he saw in his backyard. They look so primitive.

>
> "HEY! Who are you calling primitive?"
> http://www.cane.com/wp-content/uploa...woodpecker.jpg
>

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Janet wrote:
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> In article >,
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> >
> > On 9/29/2013 12:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 23:32:47 -0400, Cheryl >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 9/28/2013 7:22 AM,
wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> The answer, at least it worked well for my neighbour and I, is to
> > >>> sprinkle urine around the boundaries. Deer understand marking
> > >>> territory and they will go to someone else.
> > >>
> > >> I think she's tried urine but from what species, I don't know. Do the
> > >> recommend a species?
> > >
> > >
> > > Human. Really, it works.
> > >

> > Sheesh. I don't even like to pee in a cup at the doctor's office. To
> > discourage deer from eating plants I'm supposed to do this at home? LOLOL

>
> You need a garden big and private enough the cup is unnecessary :-)
>
> Janet UK


There are quite a few commercial deer repellents available.
Do a google search for "deer repellent"
OR... Colorado State University has a good page about all
http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/natres/06520.html

"A spray of 20 percent whole eggs and 80 percent water is one of the
most effective repellents. To prevent the sprayer from
clogging, remove the chalaza or white membrane attached to the yolk
before mixing the eggs. The egg mixture is weather
resistant but must be reapplied in about 30 days. See Table 2 for a
list of commercially available repellents and their ratings
against deer and elk browsing in Colorado."

Or do like Sheldon does. You've seen his pictures. He uses wire
fencing around his garden and plants.

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On 9/29/2013 12:49 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> Sheesh. I don't even like to pee in a cup at the doctor's office. To
>> discourage deer from eating plants I'm supposed to do this at home? LOLOL
>>
>> Jill

>
> No cup needed. Just run out after dark and pee on the bushes.
>

Sounds good in theory, but I still have all sorts of wildlife coming
through my yard. One day a couple years ago I peed on the trail through
the woods behind me, not just because I had to go but because there is a
coyote den about 30 yards from the trail. The next day when I took my
dog for his walk through the woods there was a pile of coyote crap on
the spot where I had peed. I think they may use scat as a marker. Last
summer I came a cross a hornet nest in the ground and fresh coyote crap
in the entrance. That must have been one brave coyote.
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On 9/29/2013 7:31 AM, wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 21:11:50 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
>>
wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been a widow for nearly 20 years and plenty of older men have
>>> cast an eye my way, but I'm not interested in anything more than a
>>> person with whom I can go to a concert/dinner with - there was one who
>>> was really stinking rich but these last ten years he's been a mess,
>>> pees himself and can't really go anywhere. I point that out to
>>> friends who say "You could have..." I didn't mind in the least
>>> nursing my husband but have no intention of doing it again for anybody
>>> else and that's the risk you take at this end of the game.

>>
>> If he's otherwise a nice guy you really should bring him to a
>> Urologist... in most cases a small pill once a day will cure his leaky
>> bladder... you seem rather shallow, like you're so perfect.

>
> No, there is something far more wrong than that, that's just one
> aspect. I am far from shallow, but I am bluntly honest and certainly
> have never set myself up as being perfect.
>

I understand what you're saying. There is nothing "shallow" about not
setting yourself up to be the caregiver.

You took care of your husband. I don't blame you for not wanting to
take on the role of caregiver again. It's not an easy task.

Jill


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On 2013-09-29, Dave Smith > wrote:
> Sounds good in theory, but I still have all sorts of wildlife


Yes. Human urine actually attracts animals, if for no other reason
than to over mark the human scent. At one time I usta have a portable
camping toity in my van. The neighborhood male cats were all over my
van, spraying it with their scent. I finally hadda take the toity out
of the van, the stink from the cats became so horrific.

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On Friday, September 27, 2013 9:19:59 PM UTC-7, Cheryl wrote:
> On 9/25/2013 1:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> >

>
> > This reminds me of when I was cat-sitting for my neighbor several years

>
> > ago. She had planted some beautiful flowers just before she went on

>
> > vacation. Along with cat-sitting I was also watering her outdoor

>
> > plants. I went over one morning and those plants had been stripped down

>
> > to the stems. There were hoof-prints in the soil by the patio.

>
> > Apparently a deer came along and made a snack of them.

>
> >

>
> > I've been seeing more deer here lately. I was returning from the store

>
> > a few days ago and spotted a doe followed by with two fawns taking a

>
> > rather leisurely walk.

>
>
>
> My poor mom has the worst trouble with deer. They eat everything. She
>
> loves to put out ornamental pots with flowers on the front steps and she
>
> has so many decades old plants (mainly lilies, peonies) that are being
>
> eaten to the ground. Her hostas, everything. She's tried so many
>
> things including chicken wire to protect them but that gets hard for her
>
> to maintain now that dad's passed. She's put so many years and work
>
> into her flower beds and shrubs and is upset to have them all eaten but
>
> what can you do...
>
>
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My mom uses a product called liquid fence, and it stinks! It does seem to work for her tho...


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Janet wrote:
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> Sounds like you're more attracted to him that she is, you're single;
> why don't you go and care for him? Who knows, you might find lurv
> together. Don't miss this chance, Gary. Maybe he'll leave you one of
> his sports cars.
>
> Janet UK


LOL! In her original post it sounded like she really liked him and
only quit because he was sick.
What you wrote above is the silliest thing I've read in a long time.
Shows where your mind is at. Dumb but funny. Oh ye Scottish ppl!

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> Just don't class us all from UK the same)


No worries, Ophelia.
Here in the US we have sf, over there you have Janet UK
heheh

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On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:57:46 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Janet wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like you're more attracted to him that she is, you're single;
>> why don't you go and care for him? Who knows, you might find lurv
>> together. Don't miss this chance, Gary. Maybe he'll leave you one of
>> his sports cars.
>>
>> Janet UK

>
>LOL! In her original post it sounded like she really liked him and
>only quit because he was sick.
>What you wrote above is the silliest thing I've read in a long time.
>Shows where your mind is at. Dumb but funny. Oh ye Scottish ppl!
>
>G.

The oddity about Usenet posts is that you must regard them as
off-the-cuff conversation (the way people talk). You can't go back
and pin them down to a couple of words that you interpret one way. In
a verbal conversation there are gestures, facial movement and back and
forth words that make meaning clearer. It just ain't that way with
the written word on Usenet. Just sayin'
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 08:29:03 -0400, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
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>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 18:30:57 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> >
>> >> If he's otherwise a nice guy you really should bring him to a
>> >> Urologist... in most cases a small pill once a day will cure his leaky
>> >> bladder... you seem rather shallow, like you're so perfect.
>> >
>> >
>> >Oh, the irony.
>> >
>> >Cheri

>>
>> Lol - a pill won't fix this - probably has a few more months left but
>> the illness has dragged out a couple of years now, sadly for him.

>
>Would you marry the guy if he was healthy? If so, if he loves you and
>you love him, you should go for at least a few months together. This
>life on earth is all we are guaranteed so I'd grab any opportunity to
>be with someone that I loved. You should never pass up that even if
>you see an end in sight.
>
>You would make the end of his life happy and be there for him when he
>died. You said he's "stinking rich" so don't sign a prenup and you
>might be very well compensated for your "troubles." At least he might
>end his life a bit happier, and you too if you really do care about
>him.
>
>Even if you don't marry him, if you care about him, be there for him.
>At least be a close friend (without financial compensation). It's the
>right thing to do and you know it is.
>
>G.


Amen.
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>On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 08:29:03 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 18:30:57 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>> .. .
>>> >
>>> >> If he's otherwise a nice guy you really should bring him to a
>>> >> Urologist... in most cases a small pill once a day will cure his leaky
>>> >> bladder... you seem rather shallow, like you're so perfect.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Oh, the irony.
>>> >
>>> >Cheri
>>>
>>> Lol - a pill won't fix this - probably has a few more months left but
>>> the illness has dragged out a couple of years now, sadly for him.

>>
>>Would you marry the guy if he was healthy? If so, if he loves you and
>>you love him, you should go for at least a few months together. This
>>life on earth is all we are guaranteed so I'd grab any opportunity to
>>be with someone that I loved. You should never pass up that even if
>>you see an end in sight.
>>
>>You would make the end of his life happy and be there for him when he
>>died. You said he's "stinking rich" so don't sign a prenup and you
>>might be very well compensated for your "troubles." At least he might
>>end his life a bit happier, and you too if you really do care about
>>him.
>>
>>Even if you don't marry him, if you care about him, be there for him.
>>At least be a close friend (without financial compensation). It's the
>>right thing to do and you know it is.
>>
>>G.

>
>No, the proposal was several years ago but I didn't want another
>relationship - partly because I was married for 43 years to someone I
>did love until the end. However, I had no desire to go through the
>last years with someone else and what I was pointing out now was that
>had I decided the money looked to good to be true, I would now be
>working extraordinarily hard for it!
>
>He's simply a friend and at this end of the game, I am thinking
>keeping friends as friends, both male and female, is the best policy,
>for me anyway.


Being a good friend is likely all he wants.
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