On 2013-10-20 1:36 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
have bad knees or arthritis, you will really appreciate it.
>>
>> I really dislike those toilets. May be easier to get up from. But
>> difficult for me to sit on. They don't work for me. My parents have one
>> and I hate it!
>
> I'm not surprised.
>
Could this be one of the reasons she is full of shit?

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 00:32:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Janet" > wrote in message
et...
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>> I do use
>>> the flushable wipes and they've not caused a problem. But for my toilet?
>>> Can only use one ply paper. Anything more will clog it. Not sure why.
>>
>> Your pipes are probably narrow because they are lined with stuck wet-
>> wipes; they are notorious for pipe-blocking because they don't break up
>> or biodegrade like paper does. Even though they are marketed as
>> flushable.
>
>Could be.

When toilets don't flush properly it's most often that the toilet and
the flange were not correctly positioned/aligned and/or the wax seal
wasn't positioned properly. Could also be that the flushometer is not
set for maintaining the correct level of water in the tank. If the
flapper valve is leaking there may not be adequate water in the tank
at the time of flushing. Clogs in the waste line are a separate issue
from the toilet, typically a blockage in the main trap, could be kids
flushing toys but most common is flushing tampons... most often
guests. People who are connected to municipal sewers are typically
not at all cognizant of what they put into their waste lines... but
people who are on their own septic systems (me) are much more cautious
of what they put down their drains, especially chemicals and
excesssive soaps/detergents.

On 10/20/2013 12:36 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> Maybe it is just a poor performing model. American Standard, Kohler,
> Toot all have excellent ones that can take large amounts of waste
> easily.

Before we could move into this house, we had to replace the toilet (and
the surrounding floor and floor joists) so I did some research.

The existing toilet was 14 1/2 inches tall... I guess standard height
back in the olden days. We replaced it with a 17" tall (including seat)
American Standard "comfort" height model. Toilets for handicapped are
usually 19".

We ended up buying this one:
http://www.americanstandard-us.com/t...f-Toilet-5595/

It is a very efficient flush cycle with low water use.

George L

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:22:53 -0500, George Leppla
> wrote:

> On 10/20/2013 12:36 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > Maybe it is just a poor performing model. American Standard, Kohler,
> > Toot all have excellent ones that can take large amounts of waste
> > easily.
>
> Before we could move into this house, we had to replace the toilet (and
> the surrounding floor and floor joists) so I did some research.
>
> The existing toilet was 14 1/2 inches tall... I guess standard height
> back in the olden days. We replaced it with a 17" tall (including seat)
> American Standard "comfort" height model. Toilets for handicapped are
> usually 19".
>
> We ended up buying this one:
> http://www.americanstandard-us.com/t...f-Toilet-5595/
>
> It is a very efficient flush cycle with low water use.
>

The flushing demo was very impressive! I sent that link to my kids,
thanks.


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On 2013-10-20 11:43 AM, sf wrote:

>> It is a very efficient flush cycle with low water use.
>>
>
> The flushing demo was very impressive! I sent that link to my kids,
> thanks.
>

When I replaced a toilet with a low flow unit I was impressed with the
flush. We had hooked up the pipes and turned on the water. I have low
water pressure so the toilet reservoir fills slowly, so I put a bit of
water in a pail and poured it into the bowl to save waiting for it to
fill again. I poured only about a half gallon on and .....whoosh... away
it went.


I had to chuckle at the demonstration video where they put a tie it. It
reminded me of the time I was mowing the lawn and ran over a huge dark
dog turd. The lawn tractor started making a whoomp whoomp noise. I had
to get off and check. I found my brand new pair of navy blue socks. The
dog had swallowed them.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 16:30:06 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>>In article >, says...
>>>
>> I do use
>>> the flushable wipes and they've not caused a problem. But for my
>>> toilet?
>>> Can only use one ply paper. Anything more will clog it. Not sure why.
>>
>> Your pipes are probably narrow because they are lined with stuck wet-
>>wipes; they are notorious for pipe-blocking because they don't break up
>>or biodegrade like paper does. Even though they are marketed as
>>flushable.
>
> The only time I've ever had a clog was several years ago when my
> daughter was staying here with my 2 diaper-wearing grandkids.
>
> We had to open up the septic tank hatch and snake it out from that
> end. It was nothing but baby-wipes.

Oh yeah! Why do people think those are flushable?

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 22:03:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>
>
>>>
>>> Sometimes toilets will build up a coating of crud in the parts you
>>> cannot see, especially if you have hard water. Other toilets are just
>>> a poor design. When the 1.6 gallon models first came out, they were
>>> horrid, often taking two or three flushes to remove everything. New
>>> models work perfectly.
>>
>>No hard water here and this toilet is only about a year old.
>
> Maybe it is just a poor performing model. American Standard, Kohler,
> Toot all have excellent ones that can take large amounts of waste
> easily.

It's a cheap American Standard. Got two just the same. My old one always
clogged and never fully flushed. At first the new one seemed better. I
actually used 2 ply for a few months. Then the old problems cropped up.
Now we have assorted problems with both but sporadically.