I have to say that heavy cream is so much more creamier than "coffee
creamer".

It's also great in oatmeal.

I don't know why I buy "coffee creamer". Waste of money.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

On 11/9/2013 11:24 AM, Christopher M. wrote:
> I have to say that heavy cream is so much more creamier than "coffee
> creamer".
>
> It's also great in oatmeal.
>
> I don't know why I buy "coffee creamer". Waste of money.
>

Keeps the chemical companies in business. Horrid stuff to actually use.

On 11/9/2013 6:24 AM, Christopher M. wrote:
> I have to say that heavy cream is so much more creamier than "coffee
> creamer".
>
> It's also great in oatmeal.
>
> I don't know why I buy "coffee creamer". Waste of money.
>
>
> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>
>

I know why I do - heavy cream won't keep in an office long enough.
What's your excuse?

On 11/9/2013 1:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 11/9/2013 6:24 AM, Christopher M. wrote:
>> I have to say that heavy cream is so much more creamier than "coffee
>> creamer".
>>
>> It's also great in oatmeal.
>>
>> I don't know why I buy "coffee creamer". Waste of money.
>>
>>
>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>>
>>
>
> I know why I do - heavy cream won't keep in an office long enough.
> What's your excuse?

Because of no fridge or because somebody always uses it up quickly?
Most every office has at least a mini fridge, but they also often have
someone that uses 2/3 cream to 1/3 coffee then complains it is gone.

On 11/9/2013 8:47 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/9/2013 1:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 11/9/2013 6:24 AM, Christopher M. wrote:
>>> I have to say that heavy cream is so much more creamier than "coffee
>>> creamer".
>>>
>>> It's also great in oatmeal.
>>>
>>> I don't know why I buy "coffee creamer". Waste of money.
>>>
>>>
>>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I know why I do - heavy cream won't keep in an office long enough.
>> What's your excuse?
>
> Because of no fridge or because somebody always uses it up quickly? Most
> every office has at least a mini fridge, but they also often have
> someone that uses 2/3 cream to 1/3 coffee then complains it is gone.

I can't say if most offices have a mini fridge. I think non-dairy
creamer is a great and needed product.

On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 11:24:59 -0500, "Christopher M."
> wrote:

>I have to say that heavy cream is so much more creamier than "coffee
>creamer".
>
>It's also great in oatmeal.
>
>I don't know why I buy "coffee creamer". Waste of money.

Of course it is.

On 11/9/2013 3:14 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 11/9/2013 8:47 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 11/9/2013 1:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 11/9/2013 6:24 AM, Christopher M. wrote:
>>>> I have to say that heavy cream is so much more creamier than "coffee
>>>> creamer".
>>>>
>>>> It's also great in oatmeal.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know why I buy "coffee creamer". Waste of money.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I know why I do - heavy cream won't keep in an office long enough.
>>> What's your excuse?
>>
>> Because of no fridge or because somebody always uses it up quickly? Most
>> every office has at least a mini fridge, but they also often have
>> someone that uses 2/3 cream to 1/3 coffee then complains it is gone.
>
> I can't say if most offices have a mini fridge. I think non-dairy
> creamer is a great and needed product.

Even the smallest of offices I've worked in had a place for people to
take a lunch break. They also had a small refrigerator. Under the
counter, sometimes, like in hotel rooms. It's surely enough room to
store a small carton of cream or half & half.

Jill

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 8:24:59 AM UTC-8, Christopher M. wrote:


Don't know if you ever shop at Costco, but they have "mini-moo's" which are shelf safe individual little servings of half and half. They are great, need no refrigeration and you can keep them in you desk drawer if you have coworkers who 'snitch' out of the fridge.

On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 10:14:38 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

> On 11/9/2013 8:47 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 11/9/2013 1:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >> On 11/9/2013 6:24 AM, Christopher M. wrote:
> >>> I have to say that heavy cream is so much more creamier than "coffee
> >>> creamer".
> >>>
> >>> It's also great in oatmeal.
> >>>
> >>> I don't know why I buy "coffee creamer". Waste of money.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> I know why I do - heavy cream won't keep in an office long enough.
> >> What's your excuse?
> >
> > Because of no fridge or because somebody always uses it up quickly? Most
> > every office has at least a mini fridge, but they also often have
> > someone that uses 2/3 cream to 1/3 coffee then complains it is gone.
>
> I can't say if most offices have a mini fridge. I think non-dairy
> creamer is a great and needed product.

Did you know there is coconut milk based creamer out now? I like it
in my coffee, works almost as well as heavy cream and is easier on
your system when your gut is objecting to dairy. I buy the plain
version. Don't know if it needs refrigeration or not though. It's in
the refrigerated section when I buy it, so I keep it in the
refrigerator at home. Yahoo answers says "Any liquid with
carbohydrate/sugar and protein needs refrigeration".

http://sodeliciousdairyfree.com/prod...-milk-creamers

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"Christopher M." > wrote in message
...
> I have to say that heavy cream is so much more creamier than "coffee
> creamer".
>
> It's also great in oatmeal.
>
> I don't know why I buy "coffee creamer". Waste of money.

You are totally correct, but I have some additional information to share
that is really life-changing for those affected. If you use heavy organic
whipping cream instead of half-and-half, you TOTALLY AVOID ALL DAIRY
INTOLERANCE ISSUES! This is because the organic whipping cream is pure
saturated fat and contains NO MILK SUGAR AT ALL.

I have a horrible intolerance to dairy and have had to avoid it for many
years because of this. After discovering that organic whipping cream
completely avoids the problem, while still giving the creamy texture and
flavor of milk, it was literally life changing. I use it in mornings on
fruit, constantly make whipping cream, and use it as a creamer for coffee
and tea. I use a combination of stevia and erythritol as a sugar
substitute in the whipping cream, and it is extremely delicious and zero
carbohydrates!!

Of course if you have a cholesterol issue you will want to closely monitor
your triglycerides, LDL Particle Count, and LDL vs HDL profiles, to make
sure the cream is not worsening those conditions. I am on the Paleo diet -
which advocates saturated fats and only allows carbohydrates from fruits and
vegetables with all of their fiber intact. I strictly avoid all grains and
liquid sugars.

--
W

On 11/9/2013 11:00 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> Even the smallest of offices I've worked in had a place for people to
> take a lunch break. They also had a small refrigerator. Under the
> counter, sometimes, like in hotel rooms. It's surely enough room to
> store a small carton of cream or half & half.
>
> Jill

I'll take your word for it. I have a small refrigerator in my office. I
still use the non-dairy creamer because it's more convenient. I'd take
half n' half any day you can name but I'm the only one here and don't
use it fast enough.

On 11/9/2013 11:53 AM, sf wrote:
>
> Did you know there is coconut milk based creamer out now? I like it
> in my coffee, works almost as well as heavy cream and is easier on
> your system when your gut is objecting to dairy. I buy the plain
> version. Don't know if it needs refrigeration or not though. It's in
> the refrigerated section when I buy it, so I keep it in the
> refrigerator at home. Yahoo answers says "Any liquid with
> carbohydrate/sugar and protein needs refrigeration".
>
> http://sodeliciousdairyfree.com/prod...-milk-creamers
>

I did not know this. I'd totally like that.

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 11:24:59 AM UTC-5, Christopher M. wrote:
> I have to say that heavy cream is so much more creamier than "coffee
>
> creamer".
>
>
>
> It's also great in oatmeal.
>
>
>
> I don't know why I buy "coffee creamer". Waste of money.

Agh - you'd be better off with plain milk. You prob. would be appalled if you knew what was really in that creamer.

Horrible stuff? Mebbe so, but the amaretto flavor is hard to resist. So I don't. ;-)

N.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/9/2013 6:24 AM, Christopher M. wrote:
>> I have to say that heavy cream is so much more creamier than "coffee
>> creamer".
>>
>> It's also great in oatmeal.
>>
>> I don't know why I buy "coffee creamer". Waste of money.
>>
>>
>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>>
>>
>
> I know why I do - heavy cream won't keep in an office long enough. What's
> your excuse?

Interesting flavors. Lower cholesterol.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 6:31:22 PM UTC-7, MotoFox wrote:
> Quoth jmcquo
>
>
> One of my uncles used to work as a supplier for a certain big
>
> multinational hotel company that would replace their honour-bar
>
> refrigerators (you know, those little ones you have to open with a key)
>
> and microwaves every three years. He'd pull hundreds of still perfectly
>
> good working units out of the properties he'd call to. So, several years
>
> back he got hold of a few of them that would otherwise have been thrown
>
> out and gave one to me. (They make great presents!) It sits under the desk
>
> in my cubicle and keeps my lunch and other edible stuff perfectly cold
>
> whilst denying my nosy coworkers access. (They have that nasty 30-year
>
> old health hazard of a refrigerator in the break room they can use!)
>
>
>
> That and it makes my other co-workers who don't have their own private
>
> refrigerators jealous.

> And yes, I keep a small container of heavy cream in there to put in my tea.
>
>
>
> --
>
> When I first got started, Usenet was still the dominant means of communication.
>
>
>
> The World Wide Web was in its infancy, Internet access ran ~$10/h, "broadband"
>
>
>
> meant 33.6 Kb/s, news was still commonly exchanged via UUCP ... and it was FUN.

My husband works for the local city. He and his office mate have a undercounter refrigerator, micro, coffee maker, and toaster oven in their office. These were all paid for by them. They hate the common kitchen down the hall because it is always dirty. Well, they have been informed that by the end of the year the maintenance people will come through all of the offices and remove any personal appliances. Get them out of there or lose them!

Where I work we have an undercounter refrigerator, but we have too many people. You open the door, stuff your stuff in and slam the door. They are currently remodeling our office and I hope when we get back in that we have a decent size fridge. Some of our other branch offices have regular freezer on top and a few even have side by side with ice maker.

oh well!
DaleP

"W" > wrote in message
...
> "Christopher M." > wrote in message
> ...
>> I have to say that heavy cream is so much more creamier than "coffee
>> creamer".
>>
>> It's also great in oatmeal.
>>
>> I don't know why I buy "coffee creamer". Waste of money.
>
> You are totally correct, but I have some additional information to share
> that is really life-changing for those affected. If you use heavy organic
> whipping cream instead of half-and-half, you TOTALLY AVOID ALL DAIRY
> INTOLERANCE ISSUES! This is because the organic whipping cream is pure
> saturated fat and contains NO MILK SUGAR AT ALL.
>
> I have a horrible intolerance to dairy and have had to avoid it for many
> years because of this. After discovering that organic whipping cream
> completely avoids the problem, while still giving the creamy texture and
> flavor of milk, it was literally life changing. I use it in mornings on
> fruit, constantly make whipping cream, and use it as a creamer for coffee
> and tea. I use a combination of stevia and erythritol as a sugar
> substitute in the whipping cream, and it is extremely delicious and zero
> carbohydrates!!
>
> Of course if you have a cholesterol issue you will want to closely monitor
> your triglycerides, LDL Particle Count, and LDL vs HDL profiles, to make
> sure the cream is not worsening those conditions. I am on the Paleo
> diet -
> which advocates saturated fats and only allows carbohydrates from fruits
> and
> vegetables with all of their fiber intact. I strictly avoid all grains
> and
> liquid sugars.
>
> --
> W

Yeah, I think maybe I had the same experience with cream as you did (having
lactose intolerance). Good info. Thanks.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, November 9, 2013 11:24:59 AM UTC-5, Christopher M. wrote:
>> I have to say that heavy cream is so much more creamier than "coffee
>>
>> creamer".
>>
>>
>>
>> It's also great in oatmeal.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know why I buy "coffee creamer". Waste of money.
>
> Agh - you'd be better off with plain milk. You prob. would be appalled if
> you knew what was really in that creamer.

Hopefully not that Captain Nemo stuff


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

W wrote:
>
> Of course if you have a cholesterol issue you will want to closely monitor
> your triglycerides, LDL Particle Count, and LDL vs HDL profiles, to make
> sure the cream is not worsening those conditions. I am on the Paleo diet -

Which it most certainly will. Heavy cream
is just like butter, but with a little more
water. It's a very unhealthful component
of a diet.

On 11/9/2013 9:41 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> W wrote:
>>
>> Of course if you have a cholesterol issue you will want to closely monitor
>> your triglycerides, LDL Particle Count, and LDL vs HDL profiles, to make
>> sure the cream is not worsening those conditions. I am on the Paleo diet -
>
> Which it most certainly will. Heavy cream
> is just like butter, but with a little more
> water. It's a very unhealthful component
> of a diet.
>
Considering that the list of ingredients in the recipe fore butter is...
heavy (whipping) cream.

On 11/9/2013 4:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>
> Even the smallest of offices I've worked in had a place for people to
> take a lunch break. They also had a small refrigerator. Under the
> counter, sometimes, like in hotel rooms. It's surely enough room to
> store a small carton of cream or half & half.
>
> Jill


It's not the fridge that's the problem. it's the people that take your
cream that's the problem.


I'm lucky. My work has 6 people and a full size fridge and the owner of
the company buys all the cream and milk and coffee supplies...

On 11/9/2013 8:31 PM, MotoFox wrote:
> Quoth jmcquown~
>
>> Even the smallest of offices I've worked in had a place for people to take
>> a lunch break. They also had a small refrigerator. Under the counter,
>> sometimes, like in hotel rooms. It's surely enough room to store a small
>> carton of cream or half & half.
>
> One of my uncles used to work as a supplier for a certain big
> multinational hotel company that would replace their honour-bar
> refrigerators (you know, those little ones you have to open with a key)
> and microwaves every three years. He'd pull hundreds of still perfectly
> good working units out of the properties he'd call to. So, several years
> back he got hold of a few of them that would otherwise have been thrown
> out and gave one to me. (They make great presents!) It sits under the desk
> in my cubicle and keeps my lunch and other edible stuff perfectly cold
> whilst denying my nosy coworkers access. (They have that nasty 30-year
> old health hazard of a refrigerator in the break room they can use!)
>
Cute! Actually, at one place where I worked there used to be a problem
with people stealing other people's lunches. That's reason enough to
have your own mini-fridge right there under the desk. Soda pop from
the vending machines was pricey. Buy your own and put it in the
breakroom fridge, gone! So a couple of people in my department who
drank soda all day long bought mini electric refrigerators that were
only big enough to hold a six pack. What the heck, they weren't paying
the electric bill. LOL

> That and it makes my other co-workers who don't have their own private
> refrigerators jealous.
>
If they're that envious they'd run out and buy one.

> And yes, I keep a small container of heavy cream in there to put in my tea.
>
As I said, there's usually a place to store a bit of cream rather than
using some fake coffee creamer.

Jill

On 11/9/2013 8:43 PM, dalep wrote:
> On Saturday, November 9, 2013 6:31:22 PM UTC-7, MotoFox wrote:
>> Quoth jmcquo
>>
>>
>> One of my uncles used to work as a supplier for a certain big
>>
>> multinational hotel company that would replace their honour-bar
>>
>> refrigerators (you know, those little ones you have to open with a key)
>>
>> and microwaves every three years. He'd pull hundreds of still perfectly
>>
>> good working units out of the properties he'd call to. So, several years
>>
>> back he got hold of a few of them that would otherwise have been thrown
>>
>> out and gave one to me. (They make great presents!) It sits under the desk
>>
>> in my cubicle and keeps my lunch and other edible stuff perfectly cold
>>
>> whilst denying my nosy coworkers access. (They have that nasty 30-year
>>
>> old health hazard of a refrigerator in the break room they can use!)
>>
>>
>>
>> That and it makes my other co-workers who don't have their own private
>>
>> refrigerators jealous.
>
>> And yes, I keep a small container of heavy cream in there to put in my tea.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> When I first got started, Usenet was still the dominant means of communication.
>>
>>
>>
>> The World Wide Web was in its infancy, Internet access ran ~$10/h, "broadband"
>>
>>
>>
>> meant 33.6 Kb/s, news was still commonly exchanged via UUCP ... and it was FUN.
>
> My husband works for the local city. He and his office mate have a undercounter refrigerator, micro, coffee maker, and toaster oven in their office. These were all paid for by them. They hate the common kitchen down the hall because it is always dirty. Well, they have been informed that by the end of the year the maintenance people will come through all of the offices and remove any personal appliances. Get them out of there or lose them!
>
> Where I work we have an undercounter refrigerator, but we have too many people. You open the door, stuff your stuff in and slam the door. They are currently remodeling our office and I hope when we get back in that we have a decent size fridge. Some of our other branch offices have regular freezer on top and a few even have side by side with ice maker.
>
> oh well!
> DaleP
>
I've worked in some pretty top of the line offices. At one, they had a
Keurig type coffee machine (except it was a different brand) before
anyone had ever heard of them. They had flavoured syrups for those who
were into that sort of thing. All sorts of creamers, too.

The breakroom had a full size GE Profile side by side fridge/freezer. A
stovetop. No oven... huh. A dishwasher. A separate ice bin, which
saved my skin when there was a week long power outage. A big storm
rolled through, knocked out power in a tri-state area. The office was
closed. A couple of days into the blackout, everyone else was
scrambling to find a store that still had bags of ice. I drove to the
office and filled up plastic bags with ice from the bins in the
breakroom. I knew the breakrooms were on the same backup generator as
the computer room.

Jill

"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
...
> W wrote:
> > Of course if you have a cholesterol issue you will want to closely
monitor
> > your triglycerides, LDL Particle Count, and LDL vs HDL profiles, to make
> > sure the cream is not worsening those conditions. I am on the Paleo
diet -
>
> Which it most certainly will. Heavy cream
> is just like butter, but with a little more
> water. It's a very unhealthful component
> of a diet.

The latest and best science is now suggesting that it is sugar - and high
insulin triggered by sugar - that is responsible for weight gain and a whole
host of metabolic diseases such as type 2 diabetes, heart disease, premature
aging, etc. See the 60 minutes special this year on Sugar, in which some
of those studies are highlighted.

When I went "Paleo" I had a massive increase in my saturated fat intake and
removed all sources of carbohydrate that turn to sugar too quickly. My
blood pressure went from 130 over 85 to 119 over 69 in about one year's
time. I have never taken any medication for blood pressure.

Paradoxically, most people think that "fat" causes clogging of arteries, but
it turns out the type of fat is the critical factor. Small particle fat
LDL is the type that causes heart disease. And - bizarrely enough - it is
the metabolism of fructose and glucose in the liver that creates LDL fat.
So by eating large carb loads you are actually metabolizing into your body
the most dangerous types of fat. When you eat saturated fat, these are
very large particles of fat such as HDL that do not cause the same types of
clogging problems. That's the hypothesis they are currently testing,
anyway, and that is the basis for the Paleo diet.

But of course if you are eating tons of sugar and you then also start to eat
tons of saturated fat, you aren't doing yourself any favors. So at the end
of the day you test your blood frequently enough to see the connection
between diet and blood chemistry. And you have to allow that people are
complex, and for some people increasing saturated fat intake will cause
problems that should show up in blood pressure measurements and blood tests.

--
W

On 11/10/2013 12:11 AM, W wrote:
> "Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
> ...
>> W wrote:
>>> Of course if you have a cholesterol issue you will want to closely
> monitor
>>> your triglycerides, LDL Particle Count, and LDL vs HDL profiles, to make
>>> sure the cream is not worsening those conditions. I am on the Paleo
> diet -
>>
>> Which it most certainly will. Heavy cream
>> is just like butter, but with a little more
>> water. It's a very unhealthful component
>> of a diet.
>
> The latest and best science is now suggesting that it is sugar - and high
> insulin triggered by sugar - that is responsible for weight gain and a whole
> host of metabolic diseases

Oh goodie! Someone else to tell us how to eat. PLONK.

Jill

On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 22:52:41 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> Actually, at one place where I worked there used to be a problem
> with people stealing other people's lunches.

I don't understand that kind of mentality.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 11/9/2013 3:42 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 11/9/2013 6:24 AM, Christopher M. wrote:
>>> I have to say that heavy cream is so much more creamier than "coffee
>>> creamer".
>>>
>>> It's also great in oatmeal.
>>>
>>> I don't know why I buy "coffee creamer". Waste of money.
>>>
>>>
>>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I know why I do - heavy cream won't keep in an office long enough. What's
>> your excuse?
>
> Interesting flavors. Lower cholesterol.
>
>
> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>
>
That sounds reasonable. I stay away from flavored creamers because they
tend to have a lot of sugar added.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/10/2013 12:11 AM, W wrote:
> > "Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> W wrote:
> >>> Of course if you have a cholesterol issue you will want to closely
> > monitor
> >>> your triglycerides, LDL Particle Count, and LDL vs HDL profiles, to
make
> >>> sure the cream is not worsening those conditions. I am on the Paleo
> > diet -
> >>
> >> Which it most certainly will. Heavy cream
> >> is just like butter, but with a little more
> >> water. It's a very unhealthful component
> >> of a diet.
> >
> > The latest and best science is now suggesting that it is sugar - and
high
> > insulin triggered by sugar - that is responsible for weight gain and a
whole
> > host of metabolic diseases
>
> Oh goodie! Someone else to tell us how to eat. PLONK.

No one is telling you how to eat. I am responding to someone else's claim
about saturated fats.

--
W

On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 22:00:31 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 22:52:41 -0500, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>> Actually, at one place where I worked there used to be a problem
>> with people stealing other people's lunches.
>
>I don't understand that kind of mentality.


Depends. In an office with people getting a decent pay, hard to
understand.

In a shop that has a lot of minimum wage temps, part timers getting
only a few hours, some of these people are desperate and have not
eaten in a day or so. Your diet Coke may be the only food they get
that day. Happens more than you think.

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 4:54:25 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> On 11/9/2013 11:00 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Even the smallest of offices I've worked in had a place for people to
>
> > take a lunch break. They also had a small refrigerator. Under the
>
> > counter, sometimes, like in hotel rooms. It's surely enough room to
>
> > store a small carton of cream or half & half.
>
> >
>
> > Jill
>
>
>
> I'll take your word for it. I have a small refrigerator in my office. I
>
> still use the non-dairy creamer because it's more convenient. I'd take
>
> half n' half any day you can name but I'm the only one here and don't
>
> use it fast enough.

And you obviously care little about what you put into your mouth.
It's amazing how many folks who post to a cooking group don't care about
the quality of their food. You probably drink shitty coffee too, because
only shitty coffee could possibly be improved by artificial creamer.

--Bryan

On 11/10/2013 3:26 AM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>
> And you obviously care little about what you put into your mouth.
> It's amazing how many folks who post to a cooking group don't care about
> the quality of their food. You probably drink shitty coffee too, because
> only shitty coffee could possibly be improved by artificial creamer.
>
> --Bryan
>

You got no call to be lecturing me, preacher. Eating food out of a
dumpster don't make you an expert on anything other than eating food out
of a dumpster. If I ever need advice on eating shitty, unclean, food,
I'll know who to seek out.

On 11/10/2013 7:44 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 22:00:31 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 22:52:41 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, at one place where I worked there used to be a problem
>>> with people stealing other people's lunches.
>>
>> I don't understand that kind of mentality.
>
>
> Depends. In an office with people getting a decent pay, hard to
> understand.
>
I doubt anyone working where I did was that hard up. Someone pointed
fingers at the cleaning crew. But unless you left your lunch in the
fridge overnight, they wouldn't have access.

There was *that* problem, too. People would bring stuff and it would
sit in the refrigerator for a week. They instituted a Friday Fridge
Cleanout. We don't care if it's your good Tupperware, get it out of the
fridge or lose it.

> In a shop that has a lot of minimum wage temps, part timers getting
> only a few hours, some of these people are desperate and have not
> eaten in a day or so. Your diet Coke may be the only food they get
> that day. Happens more than you think.
>
I've worked a few minimum wage jobs in my life. Even then I wouldn't
steal someone's lunch. Or soda (if I drank soda).

Jill

On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 07:44:15 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> In an office with people getting a decent pay, hard to
> understand.

I'm talking about people in a well paid work environment, not working
poor.

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On 11/10/2013 12:46 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 07:44:15 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> In an office with people getting a decent pay, hard to
>> understand.
>
> I'm talking about people in a well paid work environment, not working
> poor.
>
Most likely the people I worked with were paid a decent salary. They
weren't minimum wage drones. Maybe some of them had financial problems.
Who the heck really knows? There's NO excuse for stealing someone's
lunch or soda pop. You need help? There are organizations for that.

Then again, a couple of people who worked in this fairly ritzy office
were fired for using the company credit card to purchase personal items
and pad their expense reports. You never really know who you're working
with. Both of those people were young and stupid. Out of a job with
full benefits, facing criminal prosecution. Stupid stupid stupid.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/10/2013 7:44 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 22:00:31 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 22:52:41 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, at one place where I worked there used to be a problem
>>>> with people stealing other people's lunches.
>>>
>>> I don't understand that kind of mentality.
>>
>>
>> Depends. In an office with people getting a decent pay, hard to
>> understand.
>>
> I doubt anyone working where I did was that hard up. Someone pointed
> fingers at the cleaning crew. But unless you left your lunch in the
> fridge overnight, they wouldn't have access.
>
> There was *that* problem, too. People would bring stuff and it would sit
> in the refrigerator for a week. They instituted a Friday Fridge Cleanout.
> We don't care if it's your good Tupperware, get it out of the fridge or
> lose it.
>
>> In a shop that has a lot of minimum wage temps, part timers getting
>> only a few hours, some of these people are desperate and have not
>> eaten in a day or so. Your diet Coke may be the only food they get
>> that day. Happens more than you think.
>>
> I've worked a few minimum wage jobs in my life. Even then I wouldn't
> steal someone's lunch. Or soda (if I drank soda).

I once worked where there was a good kitchen with a largish fridge. One day
I picked up some milk for home and put it the fridge in its shop carrier
bag. When I went back half of it was gone. I was very angry. Stuff had
gone missing but no one had ever messed with stuff still in the bag! I
shouted around a bit and one woman was outraged for me and put a notice on
the fridge warning everyone off. It turned out SHE was the miscreant!!

Hypocrites R Us or what??


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On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 18:12:03 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

> I
> shouted around a bit and one woman was outraged for me and put a notice on
> the fridge warning everyone off. It turned out SHE was the miscreant!!

There's a certain political party over there whose name begins with R
that uses the same tactic.
>
> Hypocrites R Us or what??

How did you figure out she was the culprit?

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On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 13:10:08 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> Then again, a couple of people who worked in this fairly ritzy office
> were fired for using the company credit card to purchase personal items
> and pad their expense reports. You never really know who you're working
> with. Both of those people were young and stupid. Out of a job with
> full benefits, facing criminal prosecution. Stupid stupid stupid.

Isn't the outgoing governor of Virginia accused of doing virtually the
same thing?

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 18:12:03 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>> I
>> shouted around a bit and one woman was outraged for me and put a notice
>> on
>> the fridge warning everyone off. It turned out SHE was the miscreant!!
>
> There's a certain political party over there whose name begins with R
> that uses the same tactic.

Over where? If here you will have to tell me who it is, because I don't
know!


>> Hypocrites R Us or what??
>
> How did you figure out she was the culprit?

She was seen) You can imagine the comments after she stuck up that
notice


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On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 19:27:05 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

> > How did you figure out she was the culprit?
>
> She was seen) You can imagine the comments after she stuck up that
> notice

Did she quit her stealing or take another job? If she did, I hope her
reputation followed her!

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"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 19:27:05 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>> > How did you figure out she was the culprit?
>>
>> She was seen) You can imagine the comments after she stuck up that
>> notice
>
> Did she quit her stealing or take another job? If she did, I hope her
> reputation followed her!

She was actually the office manager. I didn't work for her because she was
in charge of the admin staff while I was in the charge of the museum in
that building and didn't have a lot to do with her. Come to think of it
she didn't stay so long after that but I didn't take much notice. I had a
few museums so wasn't always there.

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