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When we bought our house it came with a garbage compactor--something I never
would have thought of if I had been the person redoing the kitchen. Well, it
turned out to be one of the most useful items in the kitchen. Normally I only
take out one bag of garbage for the week. I do save the plastic tubular bags
the newspaper arrives in and put anything smelly or messy in them (like coffee
grounds)before putting them in the compactor so that the contents can sit
around for a week without having an odor. This is a great thing to put in if
you're redoing a kitchen, and they're only about a foot wide. Frankly, I don't
understand why they're not more popular--especially now, when we're all trying
to keep the volume of garbage down.

Fran
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>(Franfogel)
>
>When we bought our house it came with a garbage compactor--something I never
>would have thought of if I had been the person redoing the kitchen. Well, it
>turned out to be one of the most useful items in the kitchen. Normally I
>only
>take out one bag of garbage for the week. I do save the plastic tubular bags
>the newspaper arrives in and put anything smelly or messy in them (like
>coffee
>grounds)before putting them in the compactor so that the contents can sit
>around for a week without having an odor. This is a great thing to put in if
>you're redoing a kitchen, and they're only about a foot wide. Frankly, I
>don't
>understand why they're not more popular--especially now, when we're all
>trying
>to keep the volume of garbage down.


Um, not everyone enjoys the luxury of a public sewer system. And you're not
keeping the volume of garbage down at all... actually you are adding to the
municipal waste, for which your taxes increase the more you add.... yup, your
sewage goes to the local sewage treatment plant, those things ain't cheap...
and costs a lot less for the town to process dry garbage than sewage.

I have a septic system, which I'm not about to fill with solids any more than
is necessary, so I ain't about to use a garbage disposal. But I do composting,
so I have very little food garbage for the trash pick up... I have a one gallon
covered stainless steel bucket by my kitchen sink for dumping all compostible
waste, about every 2-3 days I walk the bucket out to my garden where I have a
big composter... makes an endless supply of beautiful black humus.

However, not everthing gets composted, leastways not directly... old bread is
used to sop up extra cooking fat which gets tossed to the birds... same with
old bruised/spoiling fruit, which the deer, etc. love. Scooped out seeds from
winter squash help feed Mr. & Mrs Squirrel. There's a coffee shop/bakery in
town that sells "day old"... a dozen bagels/$1... I get a bag of those whenever
I pass... wildlife is already trained to come looking for bagels. I learned
too, gotta toss them out whole, don't cut them up or Mr & Mrs Crow will quickly
fly off with all of it, depriving my cats of their show each morning.

I don't have a garbage disposal per se, yet nothing edible gets wasted here.
I feed all the animals and they in turn do an excellent job of fertilizing my
fields.

Hmm, when I bought my house it seems to have come with a disposal system too...
and far more efficient than yours.

Uh oh, just now noticed you wrote "garbage compactor", not garbage disposal...
had you written *trash compactor* (the proper terminology) I probably would not
have jumped the gun. Oh well, I had one of those once, a long time ago...
didn't much like it. I don't care what you say, it generates lots of stink...
gotta buy those special deodorizer thingies, not cheap... and neither are the
special compactor bags cheap. Plus they occupy a space where you could of had
a decent sized kitchen cabinet instead... and sometimes those special bags
leak, what a messy clean up job that is. I would never want to own one of
those contraptions again... besides, I'm the original trash compactor...
everything gets squashed flat or cut up into itty-bitty bits... except for
glass (which you can't do in a compactor anyhow) I can do as good or better
compacting job than those machines. 'Bout the only thing I haven't yet figured
out how to compact is used cat litter... those machines can't either. The cat
litter is the main reason I have trash pick up... my cats go though 40 pounds a
week... I clean their two litter boxes twice each day, my house has no cat
smell.




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PENMART01 wrote:
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> >(Franfogel)
> >
> >When we bought our house it came with a garbage compactor--something I never
> >would have thought of if I had been the person redoing the kitchen. Well, it
> >turned out to be one of the most useful items in the kitchen. Normally I
> >only
> >take out one bag of garbage for the week. I do save the plastic tubular bags
> >the newspaper arrives in and put anything smelly or messy in them (like
> >coffee
> >grounds)before putting them in the compactor so that the contents can sit
> >around for a week without having an odor. This is a great thing to put in if
> >you're redoing a kitchen, and they're only about a foot wide. Frankly, I
> >don't
> >understand why they're not more popular--especially now, when we're all
> >trying
> >to keep the volume of garbage down.

>
> Um, not everyone enjoys the luxury of a public sewer system. And you're not
> keeping the volume of garbage down at all... actually you are adding to the
> municipal waste, for which your taxes increase the more you add....


A trash compactor is not a garbage disposal you might have in your
sink.

nancy
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>Nancy Young writes:
>
>PENMART01 wrote:
>>
>> >(Franfogel)
>> >
>> >When we bought our house it came with a garbage compactor--something I

>never
>> >would have thought of if I had been the person redoing the kitchen. Well,

>it
>> >turned out to be one of the most useful items in the kitchen. Normally I
>> >only
>> >take out one bag of garbage for the week. I do save the plastic tubular

>bags
>> >the newspaper arrives in and put anything smelly or messy in them (like
>> >coffee
>> >grounds)before putting them in the compactor so that the contents can sit
>> >around for a week without having an odor. This is a great thing to put in

>if
>> >you're redoing a kitchen, and they're only about a foot wide. Frankly, I
>> >don't
>> >understand why they're not more popular--especially now, when we're all
>> >trying
>> >to keep the volume of garbage down.

>>
>>
>> Um, not everyone enjoys the luxury of a public sewer system. And you're

>not
>> keeping the volume of garbage down at all... actually you are adding to the
>> municipal waste, for which your taxes increase the more you add....

>
>A trash compactor is not a garbage disposal you might have in your
>sink.
>
>nancy


I see you didn't read very much of my post.


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PENMART01 wrote:
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> >Nancy Young writes:


> >A trash compactor is not a garbage disposal you might have in your
> >sink.


> I see you didn't read very much of my post.


You were chatting about sewers and septic tanks. I didn't see where
you could be going along those lines.

nancy


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PENMART01 wrote:
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> >Nancy Young writes:


> >A trash compactor is not a garbage disposal you might have in your
> >sink.


> I see you didn't read very much of my post.


You were chatting about sewers and septic tanks. I didn't see where
you could be going along those lines.

nancy
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Nancy Young > wrote in
:

> PENMART01 wrote:
>>
>> >(Franfogel)
>> >
>> >When we bought our house it came with a garbage compactor--something I
>> >never would have thought of if I had been the person redoing the
>> >kitchen. Well, it turned out to be one of the most useful items in
>> >the kitchen. Normally I only take out one bag of garbage for the
>> >week. I do save the plastic tubular bags the newspaper arrives in and
>> >put anything smelly or messy in them (like coffee grounds)before
>> >putting them in the compactor so that the contents can sit around for
>> >a week without having an odor. This is a great thing to put in if
>> >you're redoing a kitchen, and they're only about a foot wide.
>> >Frankly, I don't understand why they're not more popular--especially
>> >now, when we're all trying to keep the volume of garbage down.

>>
>> Um, not everyone enjoys the luxury of a public sewer system. And
>> you're not keeping the volume of garbage down at all... actually you
>> are adding to the municipal waste, for which your taxes increase the
>> more you add....

>
> A trash compactor is not a garbage disposal you might have in your
> sink.
>
> nancy


True. When we had a trash compactor, we ground all the food waste in the
garbage disposal (which we still do) and compacted only non-food items like
boxes, cans, bottles, etc. We always rinsed the cans, bottles, and other
containers that held wet foods. There was no smell.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

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*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.
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>Nancy Young writes:
>
>PENMART01 wrote:
>>
>> >(Franfogel)
>> >
>> >When we bought our house it came with a garbage compactor--something I

>never
>> >would have thought of if I had been the person redoing the kitchen. Well,

>it
>> >turned out to be one of the most useful items in the kitchen. Normally I
>> >only
>> >take out one bag of garbage for the week. I do save the plastic tubular

>bags
>> >the newspaper arrives in and put anything smelly or messy in them (like
>> >coffee
>> >grounds)before putting them in the compactor so that the contents can sit
>> >around for a week without having an odor. This is a great thing to put in

>if
>> >you're redoing a kitchen, and they're only about a foot wide. Frankly, I
>> >don't
>> >understand why they're not more popular--especially now, when we're all
>> >trying
>> >to keep the volume of garbage down.

>>
>>
>> Um, not everyone enjoys the luxury of a public sewer system. And you're

>not
>> keeping the volume of garbage down at all... actually you are adding to the
>> municipal waste, for which your taxes increase the more you add....

>
>A trash compactor is not a garbage disposal you might have in your
>sink.
>
>nancy


I see you didn't read very much of my post.


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---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
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Nancy Young > wrote in
:

> PENMART01 wrote:
>>
>> >(Franfogel)
>> >
>> >When we bought our house it came with a garbage compactor--something I
>> >never would have thought of if I had been the person redoing the
>> >kitchen. Well, it turned out to be one of the most useful items in
>> >the kitchen. Normally I only take out one bag of garbage for the
>> >week. I do save the plastic tubular bags the newspaper arrives in and
>> >put anything smelly or messy in them (like coffee grounds)before
>> >putting them in the compactor so that the contents can sit around for
>> >a week without having an odor. This is a great thing to put in if
>> >you're redoing a kitchen, and they're only about a foot wide.
>> >Frankly, I don't understand why they're not more popular--especially
>> >now, when we're all trying to keep the volume of garbage down.

>>
>> Um, not everyone enjoys the luxury of a public sewer system. And
>> you're not keeping the volume of garbage down at all... actually you
>> are adding to the municipal waste, for which your taxes increase the
>> more you add....

>
> A trash compactor is not a garbage disposal you might have in your
> sink.
>
> nancy


True. When we had a trash compactor, we ground all the food waste in the
garbage disposal (which we still do) and compacted only non-food items like
boxes, cans, bottles, etc. We always rinsed the cans, bottles, and other
containers that held wet foods. There was no smell.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.
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Nancy Young > wrote in
:

> PENMART01 wrote:
>>
>> >(Franfogel)
>> >
>> >When we bought our house it came with a garbage compactor--something I
>> >never would have thought of if I had been the person redoing the
>> >kitchen. Well, it turned out to be one of the most useful items in
>> >the kitchen. Normally I only take out one bag of garbage for the
>> >week. I do save the plastic tubular bags the newspaper arrives in and
>> >put anything smelly or messy in them (like coffee grounds)before
>> >putting them in the compactor so that the contents can sit around for
>> >a week without having an odor. This is a great thing to put in if
>> >you're redoing a kitchen, and they're only about a foot wide.
>> >Frankly, I don't understand why they're not more popular--especially
>> >now, when we're all trying to keep the volume of garbage down.

>>
>> Um, not everyone enjoys the luxury of a public sewer system. And
>> you're not keeping the volume of garbage down at all... actually you
>> are adding to the municipal waste, for which your taxes increase the
>> more you add....

>
> A trash compactor is not a garbage disposal you might have in your
> sink.
>
> nancy


True. When we had a trash compactor, we ground all the food waste in the
garbage disposal (which we still do) and compacted only non-food items like
boxes, cans, bottles, etc. We always rinsed the cans, bottles, and other
containers that held wet foods. There was no smell.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.


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PENMART01 wrote:
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> >(Franfogel)
> >
> >When we bought our house it came with a garbage compactor--something I never
> >would have thought of if I had been the person redoing the kitchen. Well, it
> >turned out to be one of the most useful items in the kitchen. Normally I
> >only
> >take out one bag of garbage for the week. I do save the plastic tubular bags
> >the newspaper arrives in and put anything smelly or messy in them (like
> >coffee
> >grounds)before putting them in the compactor so that the contents can sit
> >around for a week without having an odor. This is a great thing to put in if
> >you're redoing a kitchen, and they're only about a foot wide. Frankly, I
> >don't
> >understand why they're not more popular--especially now, when we're all
> >trying
> >to keep the volume of garbage down.

>
> Um, not everyone enjoys the luxury of a public sewer system. And you're not
> keeping the volume of garbage down at all... actually you are adding to the
> municipal waste, for which your taxes increase the more you add....


A trash compactor is not a garbage disposal you might have in your
sink.

nancy
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> >(Franfogel)
> >
> >When we bought our house it came with a garbage compactor--something I never
> >would have thought of if I had been the person redoing the kitchen. Well, it
> >turned out to be one of the most useful items in the kitchen. Normally I
> >only
> >take out one bag of garbage for the week. I do save the plastic tubular bags
> >the newspaper arrives in and put anything smelly or messy in them (like
> >coffee
> >grounds)before putting them in the compactor so that the contents can sit
> >around for a week without having an odor. This is a great thing to put in if
> >you're redoing a kitchen, and they're only about a foot wide. Frankly, I
> >don't
> >understand why they're not more popular--especially now, when we're all
> >trying
> >to keep the volume of garbage down.

>
> Um, not everyone enjoys the luxury of a public sewer system. And you're not
> keeping the volume of garbage down at all... actually you are adding to the
> municipal waste, for which your taxes increase the more you add....


A trash compactor is not a garbage disposal you might have in your
sink.

nancy
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On 06 Nov 2004, you wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> When we bought our house it came with a garbage compactor--something I
> never would have thought of if I had been the person redoing the
> kitchen. Well, it turned out to be one of the most useful items in
> the kitchen. Normally I only take out one bag of garbage for the
> week. I do save the plastic tubular bags the newspaper arrives in and
> put anything smelly or messy in them (like coffee grounds)before
> putting them in the compactor so that the contents can sit around for
> a week without having an odor. This is a great thing to put in if
> you're redoing a kitchen, and they're only about a foot wide.
> Frankly, I don't understand why they're not more popular--especially
> now, when we're all trying to keep the volume of garbage down.
>
> Fran



Fran,

There was an issue ages ago about the garbage trucks having a problem
with 50 lb. blocks of compacted garbage that broke their compacting
mechanisms. Or maybe it was simply the weight of the compacted blocks the
trashmen had to lift? One or the other, I forget which.

Andy
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>(Franfogel)
>
>When we bought our house it came with a garbage compactor--something I never
>would have thought of if I had been the person redoing the kitchen. Well, it
>turned out to be one of the most useful items in the kitchen. Normally I
>only
>take out one bag of garbage for the week. I do save the plastic tubular bags
>the newspaper arrives in and put anything smelly or messy in them (like
>coffee
>grounds)before putting them in the compactor so that the contents can sit
>around for a week without having an odor. This is a great thing to put in if
>you're redoing a kitchen, and they're only about a foot wide. Frankly, I
>don't
>understand why they're not more popular--especially now, when we're all
>trying
>to keep the volume of garbage down.


Um, not everyone enjoys the luxury of a public sewer system. And you're not
keeping the volume of garbage down at all... actually you are adding to the
municipal waste, for which your taxes increase the more you add.... yup, your
sewage goes to the local sewage treatment plant, those things ain't cheap...
and costs a lot less for the town to process dry garbage than sewage.

I have a septic system, which I'm not about to fill with solids any more than
is necessary, so I ain't about to use a garbage disposal. But I do composting,
so I have very little food garbage for the trash pick up... I have a one gallon
covered stainless steel bucket by my kitchen sink for dumping all compostible
waste, about every 2-3 days I walk the bucket out to my garden where I have a
big composter... makes an endless supply of beautiful black humus.

However, not everthing gets composted, leastways not directly... old bread is
used to sop up extra cooking fat which gets tossed to the birds... same with
old bruised/spoiling fruit, which the deer, etc. love. Scooped out seeds from
winter squash help feed Mr. & Mrs Squirrel. There's a coffee shop/bakery in
town that sells "day old"... a dozen bagels/$1... I get a bag of those whenever
I pass... wildlife is already trained to come looking for bagels. I learned
too, gotta toss them out whole, don't cut them up or Mr & Mrs Crow will quickly
fly off with all of it, depriving my cats of their show each morning.

I don't have a garbage disposal per se, yet nothing edible gets wasted here.
I feed all the animals and they in turn do an excellent job of fertilizing my
fields.

Hmm, when I bought my house it seems to have come with a disposal system too...
and far more efficient than yours.

Uh oh, just now noticed you wrote "garbage compactor", not garbage disposal...
had you written *trash compactor* (the proper terminology) I probably would not
have jumped the gun. Oh well, I had one of those once, a long time ago...
didn't much like it. I don't care what you say, it generates lots of stink...
gotta buy those special deodorizer thingies, not cheap... and neither are the
special compactor bags cheap. Plus they occupy a space where you could of had
a decent sized kitchen cabinet instead... and sometimes those special bags
leak, what a messy clean up job that is. I would never want to own one of
those contraptions again... besides, I'm the original trash compactor...
everything gets squashed flat or cut up into itty-bitty bits... except for
glass (which you can't do in a compactor anyhow) I can do as good or better
compacting job than those machines. 'Bout the only thing I haven't yet figured
out how to compact is used cat litter... those machines can't either. The cat
litter is the main reason I have trash pick up... my cats go though 40 pounds a
week... I clean their two litter boxes twice each day, my house has no cat
smell.




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On 06 Nov 2004, you wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> When we bought our house it came with a garbage compactor--something I
> never would have thought of if I had been the person redoing the
> kitchen. Well, it turned out to be one of the most useful items in
> the kitchen. Normally I only take out one bag of garbage for the
> week. I do save the plastic tubular bags the newspaper arrives in and
> put anything smelly or messy in them (like coffee grounds)before
> putting them in the compactor so that the contents can sit around for
> a week without having an odor. This is a great thing to put in if
> you're redoing a kitchen, and they're only about a foot wide.
> Frankly, I don't understand why they're not more popular--especially
> now, when we're all trying to keep the volume of garbage down.
>
> Fran



Fran,

There was an issue ages ago about the garbage trucks having a problem
with 50 lb. blocks of compacted garbage that broke their compacting
mechanisms. Or maybe it was simply the weight of the compacted blocks the
trashmen had to lift? One or the other, I forget which.

Andy


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