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> I've heard of asofetida
>as an onion substitute, but I really can't picture it. > >--Lia The stuff smells stronger than any garlic or onion I have ever seen. I think it might scare her allergic friend- I'm pretty sure even vampires cringe at the aroma. *giggles* Barb |
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Cindy Fuller wrote:
> > We discussed the menu plans last night. Our host is making stuffing > (actually dressing, since another couple will roast the turkey) with > onions and garlic. The allergic one is responsible for bringing two > side dishes that she can eat. Apparently this is not a full-blown > allergy, since the allergic one wolfed down some of Whole Foods' > onion-full chopped liver last week. > Funny how that works. It's like my vegan grand niece. We didn't know she was vegan. He father forgot to bring her vegan side dishes for Christmas dinner. My wife scoured the pantry for something anything that was free of animal products, and that her picky appetite would consent to. A year and a half later she was sitting across the table from me at a nice brunch buffet. What an eye opener. I had never known that bacon, sausage, ham, smoked salmon, shrimp and lobster were now part of the vegan diet. |
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Dave Smith > wrote:
> Cindy Fuller wrote: > > > > > We discussed the menu plans last night. Our host is making stuffing > > (actually dressing, since another couple will roast the turkey) with > > onions and garlic. The allergic one is responsible for bringing two > > side dishes that she can eat. Apparently this is not a full-blown > > allergy, since the allergic one wolfed down some of Whole Foods' > > onion-full chopped liver last week. > > > > Funny how that works. It's like my vegan grand niece. We didn't know she was > vegan. He father forgot to bring her vegan side dishes for Christmas dinner. > My wife scoured the pantry for something anything that was free of animal > products, and that her picky appetite would consent to. A year and a half > later she was sitting across the table from me at a nice brunch buffet. What > an eye opener. I had never known that bacon, sausage, ham, smoked salmon, > shrimp and lobster were now part of the vegan diet. I just got severly chastised for offering to bring shrimp cocktail to a gathering of those whackos.... I'm told they don't eat anything that once breathed, walked, swam or flew...... |
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The Wolf wrote:
> Dave Smith > wrote: > > > Cindy Fuller wrote: > > > > > > > > We discussed the menu plans last night. Our host is making stuffing > > > (actually dressing, since another couple will roast the turkey) with > > > onions and garlic. The allergic one is responsible for bringing two > > > side dishes that she can eat. Apparently this is not a full-blown > > > allergy, since the allergic one wolfed down some of Whole Foods' > > > onion-full chopped liver last week. > > > > > > > Funny how that works. It's like my vegan grand niece. We didn't know she was > > vegan. He father forgot to bring her vegan side dishes for Christmas dinner. > > My wife scoured the pantry for something anything that was free of animal > > products, and that her picky appetite would consent to. A year and a half > > later she was sitting across the table from me at a nice brunch buffet. What > > an eye opener. I had never known that bacon, sausage, ham, smoked salmon, > > shrimp and lobster were now part of the vegan diet. > > I just got severly chastised for offering to bring shrimp cocktail to a > gathering of those whackos.... > > I'm told they don't eat anything that once breathed, walked, swam or > flew...... Not this week. Give them a few months and they will be back to proper food. I tend not to cater to people on fad diets. Tend not to entertain people with religious restrictions. |
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> Dave Smith
>> >> I'm told they don't eat anything that once breathed, walked, swam or >> flew...... > >Give them a few months and they will be back to proper food. I tend >not to cater to people on fad diets. Tend not to entertain people with religious >restrictions. Those who truely adhere to diets based on religious restrictions would not eat anything at your house (not my house either)... those who do are full of shit. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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Dave Smith wrote:
> Funny how that works. It's like my vegan grand niece. We didn't know she was > vegan. He father forgot to bring her vegan side dishes for Christmas dinner. > My wife scoured the pantry for something anything that was free of animal > products, and that her picky appetite would consent to. A year and a half > later she was sitting across the table from me at a nice brunch buffet. What > an eye opener. I had never known that bacon, sausage, ham, smoked salmon, > shrimp and lobster were now part of the vegan diet. We call them ovo-lacto-pesce-pollo-carne vegetarians. --Lia |
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ravinwulf wrote:
> > I'm pretty firmly set on the turkey, dressing, and potatoes, although > I may end up replacing either the stuffed squash with the "family" > sweet potato casserole or the spinach with the "family" broccoli > casserole Ohhhhhhhhhh don't!! The squash and spinach sound good!! Those sweet potato dishes with those marshmallows and that broccoli casserole are always predictable. Or at least (better yet!) do them all!! I always have at least 4 vegetable dishes at TG, and notice a lot of people make "special meals" with so few and often noting even fresh or green. Again, I vote for that squash and spinach! Goomba |
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Wayne Boatwright > wrote in message >
> Neither of these are very traditional, but both are delicious. > > Glazed Bittersweet Onions > > > > Creamed Caramelized Pearl Onions > serves 4 Thanks for the recipes. The "Creamed Caramelized Pearl Onions" recipe looks like what I had in mind. Dean G. |
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Wayne Boatwright > wrote in message >
> Neither of these are very traditional, but both are delicious. > > Glazed Bittersweet Onions > > > > Creamed Caramelized Pearl Onions > serves 4 Thanks for the recipes. The "Creamed Caramelized Pearl Onions" recipe looks like what I had in mind. Dean G. |
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Julia Altshuler wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote: > > > Funny how that works. It's like my vegan grand niece. We didn't know she was > > vegan. He father forgot to bring her vegan side dishes for Christmas dinner. > > My wife scoured the pantry for something anything that was free of animal > > products, and that her picky appetite would consent to. A year and a half > > later she was sitting across the table from me at a nice brunch buffet. What > > an eye opener. I had never known that bacon, sausage, ham, smoked salmon, > > shrimp and lobster were now part of the vegan diet. > > We call them ovo-lacto-pesce-pollo-carne vegetarians. I call them fad dieters, and I don't cater to them. :-) |
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 14:47:25 -0500, Goomba38 >
wrote: >ravinwulf wrote: > >> >> I'm pretty firmly set on the turkey, dressing, and potatoes, although >> I may end up replacing either the stuffed squash with the "family" >> sweet potato casserole or the spinach with the "family" broccoli >> casserole > >Ohhhhhhhhhh don't!! The squash and spinach sound >good!! Those sweet potato dishes with those >marshmallows and that broccoli casserole are >always predictable. Or at least (better yet!) do >them all!! I always have at least 4 vegetable >dishes at TG, and notice a lot of people make >"special meals" with so few and often noting even >fresh or green. LOL It's not quite that bad! There are no marshmallows involved in our traditional sweet potato thing; it's more a praline topping with pecans and coconut. And the broccoli casserole is better than your average bear as well IMO, with lots of garlic, real cheese and big chunks of mushrooms. That said, I'll probably stick with the squash and spinach anyway. I like to do something a little different every year; but not so far out that it's unrecognizable as thanksgiving.  My main concern is that the winter squash with a rice stuffing might be a tad too much starch on top of the dressing and mashed potatoes; but hey, it's thanksgiving! No harm in a little carb overindulgence once a year, right? Regards, Tracy R. <--thinking maybe I'll add the Balsamic Roasted Onions from last year too, so we have another not-starchy side dish... |
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 14:47:25 -0500, Goomba38 >
wrote: >ravinwulf wrote: > >> >> I'm pretty firmly set on the turkey, dressing, and potatoes, although >> I may end up replacing either the stuffed squash with the "family" >> sweet potato casserole or the spinach with the "family" broccoli >> casserole > >Ohhhhhhhhhh don't!! The squash and spinach sound >good!! Those sweet potato dishes with those >marshmallows and that broccoli casserole are >always predictable. Or at least (better yet!) do >them all!! I always have at least 4 vegetable >dishes at TG, and notice a lot of people make >"special meals" with so few and often noting even >fresh or green. LOL It's not quite that bad! There are no marshmallows involved in our traditional sweet potato thing; it's more a praline topping with pecans and coconut. And the broccoli casserole is better than your average bear as well IMO, with lots of garlic, real cheese and big chunks of mushrooms. That said, I'll probably stick with the squash and spinach anyway. I like to do something a little different every year; but not so far out that it's unrecognizable as thanksgiving. My main concern is that the winter squash with a rice stuffing might be a tad too much starch on top of the dressing and mashed potatoes; but hey, it's thanksgiving! No harm in a little carb overindulgence once a year, right? Regards, Tracy R. <--thinking maybe I'll add the Balsamic Roasted Onions from last year too, so we have another not-starchy side dish... |
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Rick & Cyndi wrote: > "Gregory Morrow" > wrote in > message ink.net... > > > > PENMART01 wrote: > > > >> But then in the US the southerners are not as likely to host formal > > dinners, > >> generally is more of an indoor picnic where everyone brings a covered > > dish... > >> doesn't matter a whit that six people brought potato salad, and since the > > main > >> entree is bologna sammiches on white with yeller musturd y'all don't > >> never > > mind > >> who shows when... so long as there's plenty beer and parking for the > > pickups.. > >> > > > > > > Don't fergit the mattresses in the back of the pickup trucks...and the > > loaded blunderbusses on the gun rack for shootin' coons. > > > > -- > > Best > > Greg > > ======================= > > Wow. While I know there is some tongue in cheek going on here... bad > blanket statements... Oh don't mind me, I'm just doing a little "geographical" trolling to get folks all excited ;-] -- Best Greg |
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Chloe wrote: > In my social circles, for a major, non-casual dinner party guests likely > still bring something like a bottle of wine, bunch of flowers, or small box > of candy. I think this is considered in a different category from a prepared > food dish that's intended to be part of the meal. It's pretty much optional > from an etiquette standpoint whether the hosts serve such a consumable or > set it aside to be enjoyed later. Had a few folks over for a casual roast pork dinner Sunday night, one of the guests brought me *roses*. I kidded her and said, "Gee, is it Valentine's Day already?" to which she retorted, "Haven't you heard that roses are *divine* with pork!?" ;-) -- Best Greg |
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Dimitri wrote: > Apple juice brined roast turkey Hmmm...I just stocked up on apple juice, thanks for the tip! -- Best Greg |
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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
... > > Having a good reason (I won't even call it an excuse) is one thing, and > perfectly acceptable. Arriving two hours late and not even offering a > reason > is inexcusable. Those people will never come back. I think all that is necessary is an apology. No reason or excuse is needed as far as I'm concerned. -Mike |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> > While I have a tendency to arrive exactly on time or within 5 minutes either > > way... (it happens)... I find it incredibly annoying when people are 15 > > minutes (or more) and don't call to notify me that they're late (presuming > > that I'm hosting a meal/event). Of course, like all things, sometimes > > being late doesn't matter but if a meal is planned for ... say, 6:00 and you > > have begged to bring the appetizers and it's now 6:15...*that's annoying*! > > It's also the last time I'll allow you to bring the appetizers and/or I'll > > have others prepared 'just in case'. LOL > > Sometimes being late is not the fault of the guest. For instance, > I can never plan on the traffic I will encounter. I leave plenty of > time, but there's an accident on the bridge at the same time every > single person in NY and NJ decide to swap states, I *will* be late. True. There are occasions when people run into unexpected problems. A road closure is a valid excuse. Routine heavy traffic is a lame excuse. The problem with late guests is usually the guests. There are some people who are *always* late. My family can usually be counted on to be on time. Most of my in laws can be counted on to be a little late, and some of them are guaranteed to be very late. My wife thought I was intolerant not to accept my nephew's excuse for being late for the last family Christmas party that her father hosted ... three hours late. The story was that he had to take his daughter to the hospital in the middle of the night. Aside from the fact that he is separated and the daughter lives with her mother, he is usually at least two hours late. It just seemed to me that he had come up with what he thought was a better excuse. A friend of my wife's is divorced and lives close to us. We used to invite her for dinner once in a while but got fed up with her being late all the time. Usually she is at least an hour late. Last year she was two hours late for Thanksgiving dinner. We had spoken to her at 4 pm. and told her dinner was at 6 and come early for drinks. When she didn't show we called to make sure she was ok, but there was no answer. When she finally showed up we found out that after we hd spoken to her she drove to a town about 20 miles away for a craft show. The next time she was invited for dinner she was late. The only reason she was invited that time was that she was at the house and we had a roast in the oven. Just as I put the Yorkshire puddings in the oven she had to run home to feed her cats. It's a three minute drive to her house. She was gone for over an hour. We just went ahead with dinner and never invited her again. Curiously, she has developed a habit of dropping by our house in time to be invited to stay for dinner, but we don't bother inviting her to stay. |
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"Mike Pearce" > wrote in news:i7ckd.2755$To5.2119
@lakeread03: > "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message > ... >> >> Having a good reason (I won't even call it an excuse) is one thing, and >> perfectly acceptable. Arriving two hours late and not even offering a >> reason is inexcusable. Those people will never come back. > > I think all that is necessary is an apology. No reason or excuse is needed > as far as I'm concerned. > > -Mike I can't imagine arriving at someone's home 2 hours late and merely apologizing. I think some semblance of explanation is due. -- Wayne in Phoenix *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. |
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Wayne Boatwright
> >"Mike Pearce" wrote >> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote: >>> >>> Having a good reason (I won't even call it an excuse) is one thing, and >>> perfectly acceptable. Arriving two hours late and not even offering a >>> reason is inexcusable. Those people will never come back. >> >> I think all that is necessary is an apology. No reason or excuse is needed >> as far as I'm concerned. > >I can't imagine arriving at someone's home 2 hours late and merely >apologizing. I think some semblance of explanation is due. Exactly... apologies *after the fact* are for occurances beyond ones control AND which cannot resonably be foreseen (like earthquakes, tornados, moslim attacks), not heavy traffic, you know you'll be driving through NYC leave 2 hours earlier. Lateness is very rarely ever beyond ones control where it cannot resonably be foreseen. If your car breaks down there is no excuse for waiting until after the repair is completed and your arrival to apologize. In todays world there really is no excuse for not picking up a phone immediately, as soon as it's foreseen one will inevitably be late, and calling to say you'll be late and to begin without. If someone arrived two hours late for my dinner because their car broke down and didn't inform me of their impending lateness well before their arrival I would not permit them entry nor would I be interested in hearing any alibis, because they would never be invited again... even if someone hasn't a cell phone I can't imagine anyone in the US being more than thirty minutes from a land phone... I mean like I've never seen an auto repair shop that didn't have a phone. And I'd buy a car breaking down only so many times (twice). If you didn't call immediately upon arrival at the repair shop and waited until you arrived 2 hours lat to explain, then your fercocktah break down story is obviously a lie.. you just left late, becaue you're a worthless ******* who doesn't consider anyone but yourself. And even if your car does break down, why do I need to be inconvienced too just because you drive a clunker... you don't have reliable transportation don't accept invitations. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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Wayne Boatwright
> >"Mike Pearce" wrote >> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote: >>> >>> Having a good reason (I won't even call it an excuse) is one thing, and >>> perfectly acceptable. Arriving two hours late and not even offering a >>> reason is inexcusable. Those people will never come back. >> >> I think all that is necessary is an apology. No reason or excuse is needed >> as far as I'm concerned. > >I can't imagine arriving at someone's home 2 hours late and merely >apologizing. I think some semblance of explanation is due. Exactly... apologies *after the fact* are for occurances beyond ones control AND which cannot resonably be foreseen (like earthquakes, tornados, moslim attacks), not heavy traffic, you know you'll be driving through NYC leave 2 hours earlier. Lateness is very rarely ever beyond ones control where it cannot resonably be foreseen. If your car breaks down there is no excuse for waiting until after the repair is completed and your arrival to apologize. In todays world there really is no excuse for not picking up a phone immediately, as soon as it's foreseen one will inevitably be late, and calling to say you'll be late and to begin without. If someone arrived two hours late for my dinner because their car broke down and didn't inform me of their impending lateness well before their arrival I would not permit them entry nor would I be interested in hearing any alibis, because they would never be invited again... even if someone hasn't a cell phone I can't imagine anyone in the US being more than thirty minutes from a land phone... I mean like I've never seen an auto repair shop that didn't have a phone. And I'd buy a car breaking down only so many times (twice). If you didn't call immediately upon arrival at the repair shop and waited until you arrived 2 hours lat to explain, then your fercocktah break down story is obviously a lie.. you just left late, becaue you're a worthless ******* who doesn't consider anyone but yourself. And even if your car does break down, why do I need to be inconvienced too just because you drive a clunker... you don't have reliable transportation don't accept invitations. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> If it's bugging everyone that someone is late, just start dinner. > I for one would not be offended. Of course, this would especially > apply to people who are chronically late. I think that is just plain > rude. I had a friend who was a bit of a crotchety old guy who had zero tolerance for late dinner guests, especially in-laws. If he planned dinner for 6 pm, dinner was served at 6 pm. If they showed up while the food was still on the table. But he had a habit of cleaning up promptly, so if they arrived after the others had eaten they were not fed. As for the chronically late, let's face facts, the people who are late are usually the chronically late. In this day and age we all have telephones and many of us have cell phones. If you are held up by some unforeseen situation you can always call and let your hosts know that you will be late. If you are one of those who is chronically late you had better start coming up with better excuses, and I might suggest being particularly entertaining guest or bring great hostess gifts to compensate for the chronic display of rudeness because some of us do not take kindly to having entertainment plans undermined by the same people time after time. > > > What really frosts me is when you plan to meet at a restaurant and > people come strolling in 45 minutes late. I hate sitting in the > waiting area like a rube. I have a couple of dearly loved friends > who are casual about time like that, and I can't stand it. They > get there when they get there. I think it's incredibly rude and > they would be astonished if I showed I was annoyed. You have options. Go ahead and eat. If the restaurant was not your choice, leave and go to the place you would prefer. But for goodness sakes, if this is a recurring problem you should reconsider dinner dates with those people. |
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Dave Smith wrote:
> > Nancy Young wrote: > > > If it's bugging everyone that someone is late, just start dinner. > > I for one would not be offended. Of course, this would especially > > apply to people who are chronically late. I think that is just plain > > rude. > > I had a friend who was a bit of a crotchety old guy who had zero tolerance for > late dinner guests, especially in-laws. If he planned dinner for 6 pm, dinner was > served at 6 pm. If they showed up while the food was still on the table. But he > had a habit of cleaning up promptly, so if they arrived after the others had eaten > they were not fed. I'd go pick out of the refrigerator. That's unnecessarily rough. > As for the chronically late, let's face facts, the people who are late are usually > the chronically late. In this day and age we all have telephones and many of us > have cell phones. You wouldn't catch me dead with one unless there were special circumstances. > If you are held up by some unforeseen situation you can always > call and let your hosts know that you will be late. If you are one of those who > is chronically late you had better start coming up with better excuses, and I > might suggest being particularly entertaining guest or bring great hostess gifts > to compensate for the chronic display of rudeness because some of us do not take > kindly to having entertainment plans undermined by the same people time after > time. I most assuredly hope you are not talking about me. I'm chronically on time. Usually the first one there, and my brothers lived closeby my mother. Just once in a while, traffic grinds to a halt and, since I don't have a flying or boat car, I am stuck there. > > What really frosts me is when you plan to meet at a restaurant and > > people come strolling in 45 minutes late. I hate sitting in the > > waiting area like a rube. > You have options. Go ahead and eat. They will not seat an incomplete party at the restaurants we frequent. > If the restaurant was not your choice, leave > and go to the place you would prefer. But for goodness sakes, if this is a > recurring problem you should reconsider dinner dates with those people. I love them and I see them whenever I can. This lateness irritation is well overriden by my enjoyment of their company. Doesn't make it less annoying but we all tolerate flaws in our family and friends. I was just bitching about it like everyone else in this thread. nancy |
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Dave Smith wrote:
> A friend of my wife's is divorced and lives close to us. We used to invite her for > dinner once in a while but got fed up with her being late all the time. Usually > she is at least an hour late. Last year she was two hours late for Thanksgiving > dinner. We had spoken to her at 4 pm. and told her dinner was at 6 and come early > for drinks. When she didn't show we called to make sure she was ok, but there was > no answer. When she finally showed up we found out that after we hd spoken to her > she drove to a town about 20 miles away for a craft show. The next time she was > invited for dinner she was late. The only reason she was invited that time was > that she was at the house and we had a roast in the oven. Just as I put the > Yorkshire puddings in the oven she had to run home to feed her cats. It's a three > minute drive to her house. She was gone for over an hour. We just went ahead > with dinner and never invited her again. Curiously, she has developed a habit of > dropping by our house in time to be invited to stay for dinner, but we don't > bother inviting her to stay. I have a theory about these people who are always late and manage to be late even when everything is put into place so they won't be late. (My example is my mother. Knowing my mother was always late and not wishing to be inconvenienced, I started inviting her to come ahead of time. When she discovered that she might have to wait a few minutes when she arrived, she started coming even later.) I believe that deep down subconsciously, they get off on having other people sit around waiting for them. It makes them feel important. They go on and on about how horrible they feel, and they may be genuinely disappointed that they missed the beginning of the party or the first course, but the allure of having everyone depending on them and waiting for them is so great that they can't resist it. I arrived at this theory the time a woman I worked with (volunteer organization) was apologizing for being late and screwing up. My first polite impulse was to tell her how it was okay, but it wasn't okay. I was royally inconvenienced. I looked at her blankly while trying to think of how to respond. Then she segueed somehow into how hard she works and how important it was for her to set priorities. That's when it hit me. For her, coming late had nothing to do with actually being busy, it was about getting the recognition for how hard she works from me because she didn't feel like she was getting it anywhere else. This was her way of telling me that my time and inconvenience waiting for her wasn't as important as all the other important things she does. As long as I'm sitting around waiting for her, she can pump herself up with importance that someone needs her and depends on her and can't do a thing without her. If told her that I didn't mind waiting, she could still tell herself that I was waiting. If I yelled at her and made a big deal of it, all the better. It pumps her up more to know that I minded so much. When I looked at her blankly, she spelled it out for me. --Lia |
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SportKite1 wrote:
> > For those who celebrate Thanksgiving - what do you plan to make this year? > > Ellen Thanksgiving is my most traditional holiday meal. It's the only time of year I make a turkey and I do *have* to have turkey for Tday even though I'm not a huge turkey fan. Also, I almost always have a fairly traditional bread stuffing and mashed potatoes and gravy. I always make peas - that's my own particular tradition as they are my favorite green veggie. I don't care about sweet potatoes but others usually want them so we always have them in some form from plain old candied sweet potatoes to sweet potato casserole. This year my aunt is making the sweet potato casserole. Cranberries are also not a favorite of mine but I'll eat them and everyone else usually wants them so again I let my aunt or someone else bring a cranberry dish of some sort. Pumpkin pie is de rigueur. We can have other kinds of pie in addition to the pumpkin but there must be pumpkin and it must be made from the Libby's recipe and there must be an abundance of real whipped cream to smother it with. This year I may add lemon meringue pie as I was watching America's text kitchen yesterday when I was home sick and they showed how to make a perfect lemon meringue. I'm dying to try their method and see how it comes out, besides which, lemon meringue is one of my very favorite pies. So, for the stuffing this year I'm going to try a new recipe. I usually make a corn and sausage stuffing but this year I have a similar recipe using dried cherries and sausage in the bread stuffing. Going to keep it relatively simple this year - no appetizer or first course (I usually make my orange-pomegranate compote as a first course - another of my personal traditions). And then I will serve the pear wine I bought in Vermont last month from North River Winery. And I can't forget Gram's dinner rolls. This is a family recipe that everyone in our family makes for holiday meals. It's a crescent roll made of a soft, slightly sweet dough. (Actually, I already made them and froze them as I had some fresh yeast I had to use up before it got moldy. Well, that's one chore out of the way already.) Turkey Cherry-Sausage Stuffing Mashed Potatoes Gravy Peas Sweet Potato Casserole Cranberry Somethingorother Gram's Dinner Rolls North River Pear Wine Pumpkin Pie Lemon Meringue Pie Kate -- Kate Connally “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.” Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back, Until you bite their heads off.” What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about? |
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Mike Pearce wrote:
> > "Hahabogus" wrote in message > ... > > > > I agree with Sheryl except I would say turkey, dressing and cranberries. > > This allows you more free time to enjoy the day and the family/friends. > > Oh, > > make some extra munchies if you want. The kind you can do a day or two in > > advance. But let others make the sides and desserts. I always ask what I > > should make if going elsewhere for TG and I feel better if I contribute to > > the Feast. > > > > Like I mentioned to Sheryl, I really enjoy cooking all the food myself. If > my guests really want to help out they can show up on time, or close to it. > I moved to New Orleans a couple of years ago. I don't know what it is about > this place, but everyone shows up late for gatherings. A good day is when > guests show up only a half hour late, more often they are an hour or more > late. That's fine if it's just hanging out but it makes it hard to time a > meal when you don't know when people are going to get there.Whenever I go to > someone's for a get together I'm just about always the first one there, even > if I purposely try to show up late. > > -Mike So tell them dinner is 2 hours earlier than you plan on! Then give them drinks and appetizers and games to play or something until it's time to eat. Kate -- Kate Connally “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.” Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back, Until you bite their heads off.” What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about? |
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sf wrote:
> > On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 16:46:45 -0500, Dave Smith > > wrote: > > > (never the canned crap), > > Hrumph... I like the canned "crap". That other stuff is > good too, but it's not comfort food. > > sf > Practice safe eating - always use condiments Actually, I do too. I'm not that big a fan of cranberries - at least not by themselves. But I don't mind the "jelled" stuff in a can. I actually prefer it to whole cranberry sauce, fresh or canned. Now I love cranberry juice cocktail and sometimes try to get people to just drink that instead of having the cranberries themselves but we usually end up with both. Damn! I just send the leftover cranberries home with someone. The jelled stuff is great for putting on a sandwich made with leftover turkey on one of my good homemade rolls and a little mayo. Kate -- Kate Connally “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.” Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back, Until you bite their heads off.” What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about? |
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sf wrote:
> > On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 16:24:17 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress > > wrote: > > > It's always only the two of us > > I can't imagine that situation! Why don't you adopt some > "orphans" for the day???? > > sf > Practice safe eating - always use condiments There have been a couple of years when I had a whole fancy Tday dinner for just me! No one else! Everyone else I knew had gone to relatives out of town and I had to work and couldn't go. I didn't mind at all. Of course I usually have a house full of people. This year, though, there may only be 3 or 4 of us alltogether. That's okay. The leftovers just last that much longer. Kate -- Kate Connally “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.” Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back, Until you bite their heads off.” What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about? |
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In article >, Kate Connally
> wrote: > So, for the stuffing this year I'm going to try a new recipe. I > usually make a corn and sausage stuffing but this year I have a > similar recipe using dried cherries and sausage in the bread > stuffing. Yowza, does that sound good. (contents of groaning board snipped) -- -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 11-10-04, The Butter Dish. "There is no indigestion worse than that which comes from having to eat your own words." |
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In article >, Dawn
> wrote: > SportKite1 wrote: > > For those who celebrate Thanksgiving - what do you plan to make this > > year? > We decided on turkey this year, and will get a ham for Christmas. My > husband will brine and roast the bird as usual. > I think I will do the cranberry fruit relish and the pumpkin pecan torta > that we both like. Beyond that we haven't made many plans, this being > the first year we have no family in town due to deaths and divorces. I'm > not much in the mood for celebrating. > Dawn I'm sorry for your troubles. You don't say how many you're prepping for, Dawn, but if you're truly not much for a celebration -- on a day for celebrating -- get outside yourself and find a place to volunteer for the day. My sister's beloved husband died couple days after Thanksgiving and every year since she's helped out at the Salvation Army dinner site in Phoenix, I think. She loves it. -- -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 11-10-04, The Butter Dish. "There is no indigestion worse than that which comes from having to eat your own words." |
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In article >, Dawn
> wrote: >There'll be no "I don't eat fish", "I just came for the turkey", or >"What the hell is that?" at the table this year, at least. Yeah, and that's what will be most missed. Those ARE the things that some traditions are made from. "Why in God's name would anyone in their right mind put raisins in a perfectly fine dressing?" That's always been MY question. :-) I make a small portion that way for My True Love, but you won't catch me eating it! > Dawn -- -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 11-10-04, The Butter Dish. "There is no indigestion worse than that which comes from having to eat your own words." |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> > > I had a friend who was a bit of a crotchety old guy who had zero tolerance for > > late dinner guests, especially in-laws. If he planned dinner for 6 pm, dinner was > > served at 6 pm. If they showed up while the food was still on the table. But he > > had a habit of cleaning up promptly, so if they arrived after the others had eaten > > they were not fed. > > I'd go pick out of the refrigerator. That's unnecessarily rough. I don't know. This guy was crotchety, excessively anal. He probably wouldn't let you into the kitchen. While I understand his frustration over people being late, I thought it was a little much. > > If you are held up by some unforeseen situation you can always > > call and let your hosts know that you will be late. If you are one of those who > > is chronically late you had better start coming up with better excuses, and I > > might suggest being particularly entertaining guest or bring great hostess gifts > > to compensate for the chronic display of rudeness because some of us do not take > > kindly to having entertainment plans undermined by the same people time after > > time. > > I most assuredly hope you are not talking about me. I'm chronically > on time. Usually the first one there, and my brothers lived closeby > my mother. Just once in a while, traffic grinds to a halt and, since > I don't have a flying or boat car, I am stuck there. If you are not chronically late I was not referring to you. Unfortunately, there are people who are chronically late. I realize that there is expression "fashionably late". I don't insist that people arrive on the appointed hour, and I always count on some time to socialize, a drink or three, some nibbles and conversation. If I am cooking something that is quick it is not a major problem if someone is a little late, but it is a different matter if there is a group of people. I don't want other guests to have to wait to be fed. If I am cooking a roast that takes several hours I don't want to ruin in because someone is late. > > > You have options. Go ahead and eat. > > > They will not seat an incomplete party at the restaurants we frequent. If that were me, the party would be complete. Change it from a table for four to a table for two. > > > > If the restaurant was not your choice, leave > > and go to the place you would prefer. But for goodness sakes, if this is a > > recurring problem you should reconsider dinner dates with those people. > > I love them and I see them whenever I can. This lateness irritation > is well overriden by my enjoyment of their company. Doesn't make it > less annoying but we all tolerate flaws in our family and friends. > I was just bitching about it like everyone else in this thread. If that is the case, tell them to be there earlier than the reservation. Tell them that the 8 o'clock reservation is for 7. That is what my mother in law used to do for family dinners. She would plan dinner for 6 pm and tell my brother in law they were eating at 5. It helped. He would arrive between 6:30 and 7. |
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Dave Smith > wrote in
: > I had a friend who was a bit of a crotchety old guy who had zero > tolerance for late dinner guests, especially in-laws. If he planned > dinner for 6 pm, dinner was served at 6 pm. If they showed up while > the food was still on the table. But he had a habit of cleaning up > promptly, so if they arrived after the others had eaten they were not > fed. > My grampa definitely had zero tolerance for dinner guests period! On Thanksgiving Sunday, in the middle of dinner, grampa would yell "Everybody shutup!!! Wonderful World of Disney is on!" waving the remote from the head of the dining room table. So much for football. Kids (me) and adults alike were silenced down to whispers for that hour. He was a judge + he had the first color TV in the family, with a remote, no less! He secretly enjoyed my rock'n'roll music, so he was rightfully the coolest judge on the planet in my book! When he passed away, he left me his set of Waterford crystal whiskey glasses and decantur. HOW DID HE KNOW!!?  R.I.P. Grampa. Andy |
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Dave Smith wrote:
> > Nancy Young wrote: > > I'd go pick out of the refrigerator. That's unnecessarily rough. > > I don't know. This guy was crotchety, excessively anal. He probably wouldn't let you > into the kitchen. While I understand his frustration over people being late, I thought > it was a little much. If I was chronically late for a dinner party, I would accept that I was rude and no longer invited. If I was invited by someone who would deny me food because I was late once, I would not accept their invitation. Works both ways. That is not a host. Nor a friend. > If you are not chronically late I was not referring to you. Unfortunately, there are > people who are chronically late. I realize that there is expression "fashionably late". > I don't insist that people arrive on the appointed hour, and I always count on some time > to socialize, a drink or three, some nibbles and conversation. Precisely what I said. We're in agreement. > If I am cooking something > that is quick it is not a major problem if someone is a little late, but it is a > different matter if there is a group of people. I don't want other guests to have to > wait to be fed. If I am cooking a roast that takes several hours I don't want to ruin in > because someone is late. I promise you, if I was that late person, GO EAT. I'm not late on purpose. > > I love them and I see them whenever I can. This lateness irritation > > is well overriden by my enjoyment of their company. Doesn't make it > > less annoying but we all tolerate flaws in our family and friends. > > I was just bitching about it like everyone else in this thread. > > If that is the case, tell them to be there earlier than the reservation. Tell them that > the 8 o'clock reservation is for 7. These people are chronically late, I won't lie. BUT, they work and have children. It's easy for me to say, I'll be there at 7. It's not as easy for other people. > That is what my mother in law used to do for family > dinners. She would plan dinner for 6 pm and tell my brother in law they were eating at > 5. It helped. He would arrive between 6:30 and 7. Well, he can just eat by himself. Make him a platter and give it the old nukeroonie. nancy |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> > > If that is the case, tell them to be there earlier than the reservation. Tell them that > > the 8 o'clock reservation is for 7. > > These people are chronically late, I won't lie. BUT, they work and > have children. It's easy for me to say, I'll be there at 7. It's > not as easy for other people. Lots of people work and have kids. My wife and I managed. When we extended or accepted invitations we accounted for the things we had to look after and made the arrangements accordingly. If we were going to someone's house for dinner or meeting at a restaurant we made sure that the sitter was there early enough that we had time to make it. Sorry, but I am not terribly sympathetic toward the chronically late. I realize that things come up occasionally that cause people to be late, but there are some people who just don't seem to care that they keep other people waiting. > > That is what my mother in law used to do for family > > dinners. She would plan dinner for 6 pm and tell my brother in law they were eating at > > 5. It helped. He would arrive between 6:30 and 7. > > Well, he can just eat by himself. Make him a platter and give it the > old nukeroonie. That doesn't really work well with a festive occasion. It is a shame to go to all the work to set a nice table and prepare a scrumptious looking roast with a fine presentation and then have to nuke it because on son and his family are always, always, always inexcusably late. |
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In article <IFukd.72800$HA.16605@attbi_s01>, Julia Altshuler
> wrote: (snip)For her, coming late had nothing to do with actually being busy, it was about getting the recognition for how hard she works from me because she didn't feel like she was getting it anywhere else. (snip) When I looked at her blankly, she spelled it out for me. > --Lia Careful with your insights, Lia -- Dr. Phil better be looking over his shoulder. -- -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 10-22-04; Popovers!. "Peace will come when the power of love overcomes the love of power." -Jimi Hendrix, and Lt. Joe Corcoran, Retired; St. Paul PD, Homicide Divn. |
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