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Sheryl Rosen > wrote in
: > Hang in there, and as Wayne said...tradition keeps us going. > > It hurts to do the same things you did with the people you miss (for > whatever reason they are not in your life anymore) the first few times. > After that, it hurts too much NOT to do them, because part of healing is > realizing that doing those things without them....sort of keeps them > with you. You honor them by taking part in events they would have liked > to share with you, because in doing so, you can't help but remember > them. > > I kinda wish someone had told me this 2 years ago. But then again, maybe > it's something that, no matter how many times you are told, you just > have to figure it out for yourself. > > Either way, try to enjoy your holidays! Very well said, Sheryl. I felt all of the things you stated. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving! -- Wayne in Phoenix *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. |
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Sheryl Rosen > wrote in
: > Hang in there, and as Wayne said...tradition keeps us going. > > It hurts to do the same things you did with the people you miss (for > whatever reason they are not in your life anymore) the first few times. > After that, it hurts too much NOT to do them, because part of healing is > realizing that doing those things without them....sort of keeps them > with you. You honor them by taking part in events they would have liked > to share with you, because in doing so, you can't help but remember > them. > > I kinda wish someone had told me this 2 years ago. But then again, maybe > it's something that, no matter how many times you are told, you just > have to figure it out for yourself. > > Either way, try to enjoy your holidays! Very well said, Sheryl. I felt all of the things you stated. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving! -- Wayne in Phoenix *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. |
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Sheryl Rosen > wrote in
: > Hang in there, and as Wayne said...tradition keeps us going. > > It hurts to do the same things you did with the people you miss (for > whatever reason they are not in your life anymore) the first few times. > After that, it hurts too much NOT to do them, because part of healing is > realizing that doing those things without them....sort of keeps them > with you. You honor them by taking part in events they would have liked > to share with you, because in doing so, you can't help but remember > them. > > I kinda wish someone had told me this 2 years ago. But then again, maybe > it's something that, no matter how many times you are told, you just > have to figure it out for yourself. > > Either way, try to enjoy your holidays! Very well said, Sheryl. I felt all of the things you stated. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving! -- Wayne in Phoenix *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. |
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in article , PENMART01 at
wrote on 11/7/04 11:30 AM: >> Sheryl Rosen >> >> I have no idea what will be served for Thanksgiving, as I'm going to my >> friend's house and it will be whatever her Mom and she cook up. I offered >> to bring either a side dish or a pie. Whichever I'm told to do, that's what >> I will bring. I have never had Thanksgiving with them, only Christmas (ham) >> and Easter (Lamb) but her mom is a wonderful cook and I have no doubt it >> will all be delicious! > > I also don't bring a "dish" to someone elses dinner, nor do I permit guests to > bring any to mine (if they do it won't get served), in fact it won't even get > refrigerated, all my fridge space is planned... they are free to retrieve > their > dish on their way out (I won't even peek to see what it is). I always tell > guests *emphatically* not to bring anything other than a pleasant disposition > and an appetite, NO dishes. I think it's very rude, especially after being > told in no uncertain terms not to bring a dish they do, and then expecting it > to be served... NOT! When I host a dinner I tend to it in its entirety from > soup to nuts, including all drinks and dessert, I don't want anyone > fercockting > up my dinner menu with their kind of surprises.. (SIGH) Here we go again. In my apparently low-brow social circle, it is not only considered NOT rude to offer to contribute when invited to dinner, it is usually welcome with open arms and included in the menu plan. I am not considered a guest to these people, I am a family member who just happens to have different parents and lives in another house. I wasn't really invited for Thanksgiving, they just told me what time to be there. It's understood that we will share Thanksgiving. This is how all of my close friends treat me, and how I treat all of my close friends. We are not guests in each other's homes. We are family who don't happen to live together. When invited for a holiday dinner or other gathering at the home of a friend, I ask "What can I bring?" and the answer is usually something along the lines of "oh, we loved that green bean dish we had at your house, will you bring that?" or "Your glazed carrots come out so much better than mine, could you make those?", or whatever. And when I invite, my friends ask me. And when I plan the menu, I think about what others could bring. One friend likes making veggie platters and dips, for example. That's what she always offers to bring. Works for me! It's never a surprise, it's discussed before hand and counted on as part of the menu. Maybe I consort with a bunch of heathens, who knows. But all of us have more good intentions and desire to enjoy the company of our friends than we have money. So if we all pitch in, we get to see each other a lot more often b/c the burden of the expense isn't on any one person. Some people have space to entertain, some don't. Those who have it, host. Those who can cook, make something. Those who have neither space nor cooking ability stop at the packy and bring beer, wine or booze. No one ever feels put upon, and certainly no one ever gets labeled rude for bringing something. Everyone has a good time, and by the time we're done with the appetizers, we're all feeling really good, glad that Charlie or Mike had no cooking ability and graced us with a couple good bottles of wine, by then no one cares who made what, as long as it tastes good and we get to laugh together. Isn't that the entire point of sharing a meal with friends? Or maybe I'm the one who's got it all wrong. |
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> "kilikini" writes:
> >"PENMART01" wrote: >> >Sheryl Rosen >> > >> >I have no idea what will be served for Thanksgiving, as I'm going to my >> >friend's house and it will be whatever her Mom and she cook up. I >offered >> >to bring either a side dish or a pie. Whichever I'm told to do, that's >what >> >I will bring. I have no doubt it >> >will all be delicious! >> >> I also don't bring a "dish" to someone elses dinner, nor do I permit >guests to >> bring any to mine (if they do it won't get served), in fact it won't even >get >> refrigerated, all my fridge space is planned... they are free to retrieve >their >> dish on their way out (I won't even peek to see what it is). I always >tell >> guests *emphatically* not to bring anything other than a pleasant >disposition >> and an appetite, NO dishes. I think it's very rude, especially after >being >> told in no uncertain terms not to bring a dish they do, and then expecting >it >> to be served... NOT! When I host a dinner I tend to it in its entirety >from >> soup to nuts, including all drinks and dessert, I don't want anyone >fercockting >> up my dinner menu with their kind of surprises... anyone needs to show off >> their kitchen prowess feel free to host your own dinners. You wanna bring >> wine, feel free, but I consider that a gift for the host and it won't get >> served (I would be rude to give away a gift given to me)... if it's good >wine >> I'll happily drink it myself, afterwards, if it's rot gut it'll go down >the >> drain, later... I wouldn't make a gift of rotten wine... and that's the >point, >> I don't want to get maneuvered into serving your crap at my dinner. When >I >> accept a dinner invitation I bring a host/ess gift with no expectation it >will >> be served to the other guests, in fact I take great offense at someone >giving >> away my gift to total strangers, especially right in my face (I don't give >away >> someones gift either, see above). I usually bring flowers, chocolates, or >> Champagne, and would be very offended if at the end of dinner they gave my >gift >> to one of their schnorrer guests to take home... I'd never again accept >their >> invite. Of course what someone does with a *gift* unbeknownst to the >giver is >> no ones business, it's a gift after all... but somehow that kind of >crassness >> always manages to surface. >> >> And I especially don't appreciate someone thinking that if they bring a >dish >> that excuses them from any and all reciprosity. I'll extend a dinner >invitation >> once, perhaps twice... after that they still don't invite me to their >dinner >> it's all over... I hate schnorrers, in all their mutations. > >(content NOT snipped on purpose) > >Sheldon, your viewpoint is really interesting to me because where I grew up >and also where I lived in Hawaii, if you were invited to someone's house for >dinner, you naturally brought along an appetizer, or side dish/dessert or a >bottle of wine. You simply DID not go to someone's house empty handed. You >would probably not receive another invite. If you read as carefully as you seem to imply then you'd not have missed all that I wrote about my take on host/ess gifts. I never arrive empty handed but I'm not about to bring a nice gift just so it will be disbursed amongst a bunch of stangers I don't know, will likely never get to know and who never have and never will do anything for me... to me a host/ess gift is for the host/ess, as a personal thank you for inviting me, not something to be given away. I choose my host/ess gifts carefully... I don't consider a bowl of rice n' beans any kind of host/ess gift... nor would I want to attend a dinner that consisted of dishes all prepared by different people who I've no idea of in which landfill they were prepared and with whose asswipe hands... If I was in the mood to take my chances with carnival chow I'd buy a ticket to Ringling Bros. I think a meal consisting of dishes prepared by all the guests is the best way to ensure I'll lose my appetite... the few times I've been fooled into attending one of those po' trash affairs I just drink, munch pretzels, and think up some excuse to leave early. >I can completely understand your viewpoint although it conflicts with the >social mores of what I've grown accustomed to. You woke me up, so-to-speak. Well, every society has it's own schtick. >From now on, when I'm invited somewhere, I will ask the host if I should >bring something to avoid any uncomfortableness between host and guest. It's impolite to ask if you should bring something... any host/ess with class will tell you not to.... doesn't mean not to. Proper ettiquite mandates that you simply arrive with a suitable host/ess gift... see my original post. >Thanks for sharing your opinion. You're quite welcome. Now keep in mind, we're talking here about a formal sit down holiday dinner, not stuffy, but not some fercocktah indoor picnic where folks wander about carrying their mac n' cheese in paper plates, screaming rug rats swinging from the curtains, folks clad in their sunday best torn jeans and tees, and most of the men and some of the wimen soused from too many brewskis... and no one removes their baseball caps. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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> "kilikini" writes:
> >"PENMART01" wrote: >> >Sheryl Rosen >> > >> >I have no idea what will be served for Thanksgiving, as I'm going to my >> >friend's house and it will be whatever her Mom and she cook up. I >offered >> >to bring either a side dish or a pie. Whichever I'm told to do, that's >what >> >I will bring. I have no doubt it >> >will all be delicious! >> >> I also don't bring a "dish" to someone elses dinner, nor do I permit >guests to >> bring any to mine (if they do it won't get served), in fact it won't even >get >> refrigerated, all my fridge space is planned... they are free to retrieve >their >> dish on their way out (I won't even peek to see what it is). I always >tell >> guests *emphatically* not to bring anything other than a pleasant >disposition >> and an appetite, NO dishes. I think it's very rude, especially after >being >> told in no uncertain terms not to bring a dish they do, and then expecting >it >> to be served... NOT! When I host a dinner I tend to it in its entirety >from >> soup to nuts, including all drinks and dessert, I don't want anyone >fercockting >> up my dinner menu with their kind of surprises... anyone needs to show off >> their kitchen prowess feel free to host your own dinners. You wanna bring >> wine, feel free, but I consider that a gift for the host and it won't get >> served (I would be rude to give away a gift given to me)... if it's good >wine >> I'll happily drink it myself, afterwards, if it's rot gut it'll go down >the >> drain, later... I wouldn't make a gift of rotten wine... and that's the >point, >> I don't want to get maneuvered into serving your crap at my dinner. When >I >> accept a dinner invitation I bring a host/ess gift with no expectation it >will >> be served to the other guests, in fact I take great offense at someone >giving >> away my gift to total strangers, especially right in my face (I don't give >away >> someones gift either, see above). I usually bring flowers, chocolates, or >> Champagne, and would be very offended if at the end of dinner they gave my >gift >> to one of their schnorrer guests to take home... I'd never again accept >their >> invite. Of course what someone does with a *gift* unbeknownst to the >giver is >> no ones business, it's a gift after all... but somehow that kind of >crassness >> always manages to surface. >> >> And I especially don't appreciate someone thinking that if they bring a >dish >> that excuses them from any and all reciprosity. I'll extend a dinner >invitation >> once, perhaps twice... after that they still don't invite me to their >dinner >> it's all over... I hate schnorrers, in all their mutations. > >(content NOT snipped on purpose) > >Sheldon, your viewpoint is really interesting to me because where I grew up >and also where I lived in Hawaii, if you were invited to someone's house for >dinner, you naturally brought along an appetizer, or side dish/dessert or a >bottle of wine. You simply DID not go to someone's house empty handed. You >would probably not receive another invite. If you read as carefully as you seem to imply then you'd not have missed all that I wrote about my take on host/ess gifts. I never arrive empty handed but I'm not about to bring a nice gift just so it will be disbursed amongst a bunch of stangers I don't know, will likely never get to know and who never have and never will do anything for me... to me a host/ess gift is for the host/ess, as a personal thank you for inviting me, not something to be given away. I choose my host/ess gifts carefully... I don't consider a bowl of rice n' beans any kind of host/ess gift... nor would I want to attend a dinner that consisted of dishes all prepared by different people who I've no idea of in which landfill they were prepared and with whose asswipe hands... If I was in the mood to take my chances with carnival chow I'd buy a ticket to Ringling Bros. I think a meal consisting of dishes prepared by all the guests is the best way to ensure I'll lose my appetite... the few times I've been fooled into attending one of those po' trash affairs I just drink, munch pretzels, and think up some excuse to leave early. >I can completely understand your viewpoint although it conflicts with the >social mores of what I've grown accustomed to. You woke me up, so-to-speak. Well, every society has it's own schtick. >From now on, when I'm invited somewhere, I will ask the host if I should >bring something to avoid any uncomfortableness between host and guest. It's impolite to ask if you should bring something... any host/ess with class will tell you not to.... doesn't mean not to. Proper ettiquite mandates that you simply arrive with a suitable host/ess gift... see my original post. >Thanks for sharing your opinion. You're quite welcome. Now keep in mind, we're talking here about a formal sit down holiday dinner, not stuffy, but not some fercocktah indoor picnic where folks wander about carrying their mac n' cheese in paper plates, screaming rug rats swinging from the curtains, folks clad in their sunday best torn jeans and tees, and most of the men and some of the wimen soused from too many brewskis... and no one removes their baseball caps. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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Sheryl Rosen wrote:
> Everyone has a good time, and by the time we're done with the appetizers, > we're all feeling really good, glad that Charlie or Mike had no cooking > ability and graced us with a couple good bottles of wine, by then no one > cares who made what, as long as it tastes good and we get to laugh together. > > Isn't that the entire point of sharing a meal with friends? > > Or maybe I'm the one who's got it all wrong. No, you've got it perfectly all right. That's what it's all about, and I second the thought of having more quality time and fun _together_ because everybody contributes what he or she can. Same with me. I'm hosting a Thanksgiving feast with friens - one has a 1-room apartment and no space. I happen to have space & table for a party and live in the middle of all of them. Friends bring wine or a dessert, some bread, I prepare the turkey, another one contributes cool board games - and so on... Petra in Hamburg, Germany |
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Sheryl Rosen wrote:
> Everyone has a good time, and by the time we're done with the appetizers, > we're all feeling really good, glad that Charlie or Mike had no cooking > ability and graced us with a couple good bottles of wine, by then no one > cares who made what, as long as it tastes good and we get to laugh together. > > Isn't that the entire point of sharing a meal with friends? > > Or maybe I'm the one who's got it all wrong. No, you've got it perfectly all right. That's what it's all about, and I second the thought of having more quality time and fun _together_ because everybody contributes what he or she can. Same with me. I'm hosting a Thanksgiving feast with friens - one has a 1-room apartment and no space. I happen to have space & table for a party and live in the middle of all of them. Friends bring wine or a dessert, some bread, I prepare the turkey, another one contributes cool board games - and so on... Petra in Hamburg, Germany |
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Sheryl Rosen wrote:
> Everyone has a good time, and by the time we're done with the appetizers, > we're all feeling really good, glad that Charlie or Mike had no cooking > ability and graced us with a couple good bottles of wine, by then no one > cares who made what, as long as it tastes good and we get to laugh together. > > Isn't that the entire point of sharing a meal with friends? > > Or maybe I'm the one who's got it all wrong. No, you've got it perfectly all right. That's what it's all about, and I second the thought of having more quality time and fun _together_ because everybody contributes what he or she can. Same with me. I'm hosting a Thanksgiving feast with friens - one has a 1-room apartment and no space. I happen to have space & table for a party and live in the middle of all of them. Friends bring wine or a dessert, some bread, I prepare the turkey, another one contributes cool board games - and so on... Petra in Hamburg, Germany |
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"Petra Hildebrandt" > wrote in message
... > Sheryl Rosen wrote: > > > Everyone has a good time, and by the time we're done with the appetizers, > > we're all feeling really good, glad that Charlie or Mike had no cooking > > ability and graced us with a couple good bottles of wine, by then no one > > cares who made what, as long as it tastes good and we get to laugh together. > > > > Isn't that the entire point of sharing a meal with friends? > > > > Or maybe I'm the one who's got it all wrong. > > No, you've got it perfectly all right. That's what it's all about, and I > second the thought of having more quality time and fun _together_ because > everybody contributes what he or she can. Same with me. I'm hosting a > Thanksgiving feast with friens - one has a 1-room apartment and no space. I > happen to have space & table for a party and live in the middle of all of > them. Friends bring wine or a dessert, some bread, I prepare the turkey, > another one contributes cool board games - and so on... > > Petra in Hamburg, Germany > There's certanily nothing wrong with the joint effort approach and it can indeed be a lot of fun. However neither of you seem to have read the original complaint which was when guests are specifically asked *NOT* to bring anything and then they do and expect it to be served. Some hosts go to a lot of effort to plan every aspect of a meal, from appetizers to main course to side dishes, wines, and desserts. It is planned as an entire entity, with each element complementing the others, not just a mish-mash of dishes. Your green bean casserole, no matter how good it is, will not fit in! -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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"Petra Hildebrandt" > wrote in message
... > Sheryl Rosen wrote: > > > Everyone has a good time, and by the time we're done with the appetizers, > > we're all feeling really good, glad that Charlie or Mike had no cooking > > ability and graced us with a couple good bottles of wine, by then no one > > cares who made what, as long as it tastes good and we get to laugh together. > > > > Isn't that the entire point of sharing a meal with friends? > > > > Or maybe I'm the one who's got it all wrong. > > No, you've got it perfectly all right. That's what it's all about, and I > second the thought of having more quality time and fun _together_ because > everybody contributes what he or she can. Same with me. I'm hosting a > Thanksgiving feast with friens - one has a 1-room apartment and no space. I > happen to have space & table for a party and live in the middle of all of > them. Friends bring wine or a dessert, some bread, I prepare the turkey, > another one contributes cool board games - and so on... > > Petra in Hamburg, Germany > There's certanily nothing wrong with the joint effort approach and it can indeed be a lot of fun. However neither of you seem to have read the original complaint which was when guests are specifically asked *NOT* to bring anything and then they do and expect it to be served. Some hosts go to a lot of effort to plan every aspect of a meal, from appetizers to main course to side dishes, wines, and desserts. It is planned as an entire entity, with each element complementing the others, not just a mish-mash of dishes. Your green bean casserole, no matter how good it is, will not fit in! -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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"Petra Hildebrandt" > wrote in message
... > Sheryl Rosen wrote: > > > Everyone has a good time, and by the time we're done with the appetizers, > > we're all feeling really good, glad that Charlie or Mike had no cooking > > ability and graced us with a couple good bottles of wine, by then no one > > cares who made what, as long as it tastes good and we get to laugh together. > > > > Isn't that the entire point of sharing a meal with friends? > > > > Or maybe I'm the one who's got it all wrong. > > No, you've got it perfectly all right. That's what it's all about, and I > second the thought of having more quality time and fun _together_ because > everybody contributes what he or she can. Same with me. I'm hosting a > Thanksgiving feast with friens - one has a 1-room apartment and no space. I > happen to have space & table for a party and live in the middle of all of > them. Friends bring wine or a dessert, some bread, I prepare the turkey, > another one contributes cool board games - and so on... > > Petra in Hamburg, Germany > There's certanily nothing wrong with the joint effort approach and it can indeed be a lot of fun. However neither of you seem to have read the original complaint which was when guests are specifically asked *NOT* to bring anything and then they do and expect it to be served. Some hosts go to a lot of effort to plan every aspect of a meal, from appetizers to main course to side dishes, wines, and desserts. It is planned as an entire entity, with each element complementing the others, not just a mish-mash of dishes. Your green bean casserole, no matter how good it is, will not fit in! -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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>Petra Hildebrandt writes:
> >Sheryl Rosen wrote: > >> Everyone has a good time, and by the time we're done with the appetizers, >> we're all feeling really good, glad that Charlie or Mike had no cooking >> ability and graced us with a couple good bottles of wine, by then no one >> cares who made what, as long as it tastes good and we get to laugh >together. >> >> Isn't that the entire point of sharing a meal with friends? >> >> Or maybe I'm the one who's got it all wrong. > >No, you've got it perfectly all right. That's what it's all about, and I >second the thought of having more quality time and fun _together_ because >everybody contributes what he or she can. Same with me. I'm hosting a >Thanksgiving feast with friens - one has a 1-room apartment and no space. I >happen to have space & table for a party and live in the middle of all of >them. Friends bring wine or a dessert, some bread, I prepare the turkey, >another one contributes cool board games - and so on... Why the need to apologize so... Sounds like Salvation Army Thanksgiving for the homeless. A wonderful concept, and quite appropriate, even more appropriate to volunteer your time and effort to the real deal, if that's your thing, and you actually do it instead of pretending. Your concept, patronizingly sticky sweet though it may be, is not something I'd aspire to... gotta tell yoose, I never had a hankering for a Thanksgiving beach party... something about the informality of it just dosen't jive with genuine/serious Thankfulness. Enjoy your pot party, but to me Thanksgiving has some deeper spiritual meaning than totally unstructured "do your own thing". Unstructured could be why so many in your liberal Democrat crowd lead such perpetually needy lives (your explanation/alibi).... seems you'll never really have much to be Thankful for, so I suppose pretending you do one day a year works for you. I count my blessings and am Thankful every day, but one day each year I give formal Thanks, with some decorem. -[p0=o98m <--- Jilly just typed this, says shut up already and hold me... ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>Petra Hildebrandt writes:
> >Sheryl Rosen wrote: > >> Everyone has a good time, and by the time we're done with the appetizers, >> we're all feeling really good, glad that Charlie or Mike had no cooking >> ability and graced us with a couple good bottles of wine, by then no one >> cares who made what, as long as it tastes good and we get to laugh >together. >> >> Isn't that the entire point of sharing a meal with friends? >> >> Or maybe I'm the one who's got it all wrong. > >No, you've got it perfectly all right. That's what it's all about, and I >second the thought of having more quality time and fun _together_ because >everybody contributes what he or she can. Same with me. I'm hosting a >Thanksgiving feast with friens - one has a 1-room apartment and no space. I >happen to have space & table for a party and live in the middle of all of >them. Friends bring wine or a dessert, some bread, I prepare the turkey, >another one contributes cool board games - and so on... Why the need to apologize so... Sounds like Salvation Army Thanksgiving for the homeless. A wonderful concept, and quite appropriate, even more appropriate to volunteer your time and effort to the real deal, if that's your thing, and you actually do it instead of pretending. Your concept, patronizingly sticky sweet though it may be, is not something I'd aspire to... gotta tell yoose, I never had a hankering for a Thanksgiving beach party... something about the informality of it just dosen't jive with genuine/serious Thankfulness. Enjoy your pot party, but to me Thanksgiving has some deeper spiritual meaning than totally unstructured "do your own thing". Unstructured could be why so many in your liberal Democrat crowd lead such perpetually needy lives (your explanation/alibi).... seems you'll never really have much to be Thankful for, so I suppose pretending you do one day a year works for you. I count my blessings and am Thankful every day, but one day each year I give formal Thanks, with some decorem. -[p0=o98m <--- Jilly just typed this, says shut up already and hold me... ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>Petra Hildebrandt writes:
> >Sheryl Rosen wrote: > >> Everyone has a good time, and by the time we're done with the appetizers, >> we're all feeling really good, glad that Charlie or Mike had no cooking >> ability and graced us with a couple good bottles of wine, by then no one >> cares who made what, as long as it tastes good and we get to laugh >together. >> >> Isn't that the entire point of sharing a meal with friends? >> >> Or maybe I'm the one who's got it all wrong. > >No, you've got it perfectly all right. That's what it's all about, and I >second the thought of having more quality time and fun _together_ because >everybody contributes what he or she can. Same with me. I'm hosting a >Thanksgiving feast with friens - one has a 1-room apartment and no space. I >happen to have space & table for a party and live in the middle of all of >them. Friends bring wine or a dessert, some bread, I prepare the turkey, >another one contributes cool board games - and so on... Why the need to apologize so... Sounds like Salvation Army Thanksgiving for the homeless. A wonderful concept, and quite appropriate, even more appropriate to volunteer your time and effort to the real deal, if that's your thing, and you actually do it instead of pretending. Your concept, patronizingly sticky sweet though it may be, is not something I'd aspire to... gotta tell yoose, I never had a hankering for a Thanksgiving beach party... something about the informality of it just dosen't jive with genuine/serious Thankfulness. Enjoy your pot party, but to me Thanksgiving has some deeper spiritual meaning than totally unstructured "do your own thing". Unstructured could be why so many in your liberal Democrat crowd lead such perpetually needy lives (your explanation/alibi).... seems you'll never really have much to be Thankful for, so I suppose pretending you do one day a year works for you. I count my blessings and am Thankful every day, but one day each year I give formal Thanks, with some decorem. -[p0=o98m <--- Jilly just typed this, says shut up already and hold me... ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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PENMART01 wrote:
> Thanksgiving beach party... something about the informality of it just dosen't > jive with genuine/serious Thankfulness. You mean jibe? (laugh) Sorry, you're just my person to pick on this week. I'll pick another tomorrow. nancy |
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PENMART01 wrote:
> Thanksgiving beach party... something about the informality of it just dosen't > jive with genuine/serious Thankfulness. You mean jibe? (laugh) Sorry, you're just my person to pick on this week. I'll pick another tomorrow. nancy |
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>Coconut Cream Pie (the pie shell also contains coconut) >"Island Spice" Ice Cream (flavored with cinnamon, star anise, cloves, and >orange zest) I was lurking through this thread (salivating!) and I would love to have the above recipes!! Joan |
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>Coconut Cream Pie (the pie shell also contains coconut) >"Island Spice" Ice Cream (flavored with cinnamon, star anise, cloves, and >orange zest) I was lurking through this thread (salivating!) and I would love to have the above recipes!! Joan |
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>Coconut Cream Pie (the pie shell also contains coconut) >"Island Spice" Ice Cream (flavored with cinnamon, star anise, cloves, and >orange zest) I was lurking through this thread (salivating!) and I would love to have the above recipes!! Joan |
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>From: Hahabogus
>I believe it would be closer to the true tradition, if friends and family >gathered to share their harvest bounty and celibrate having enough to >continue for one more year. > Hmmm...that's what I always thought as well. Ellen |
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>From: Hahabogus
>I believe it would be closer to the true tradition, if friends and family >gathered to share their harvest bounty and celibrate having enough to >continue for one more year. > Hmmm...that's what I always thought as well. Ellen |
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SportKite1 wrote:
> For those who celebrate Thanksgiving - what do you plan to make this year? > > Ellen > > Jamaican Turkey with Jamaican stuffing. Mashed Rutabagas, Mashed Potatoes, Baked Sweet Potatoes Jamaican relish Gravy Greens of various kinds and Jello Waldorf Salad Dessert: Pumpkin Rum Pie with creme. Suet Mince Pie with a deep Rum Sauce Pecan-Rum Pie Dark Jamaican fruit cake. Prior to the meal there are things to nosh on such as: Shrimp with avocado in tomato aspic with horseradish sauce Fresh Stamp and Go Tandoori breads Small fruited meatballs made with pineapple, papaya, coconut. Blue mountain coffee. Paradise Teas Nuts and fresh fruit with cheese. Sleep! |
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SportKite1 wrote:
> For those who celebrate Thanksgiving - what do you plan to make this year? > > Ellen > > Jamaican Turkey with Jamaican stuffing. Mashed Rutabagas, Mashed Potatoes, Baked Sweet Potatoes Jamaican relish Gravy Greens of various kinds and Jello Waldorf Salad Dessert: Pumpkin Rum Pie with creme. Suet Mince Pie with a deep Rum Sauce Pecan-Rum Pie Dark Jamaican fruit cake. Prior to the meal there are things to nosh on such as: Shrimp with avocado in tomato aspic with horseradish sauce Fresh Stamp and Go Tandoori breads Small fruited meatballs made with pineapple, papaya, coconut. Blue mountain coffee. Paradise Teas Nuts and fresh fruit with cheese. Sleep! |
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SportKite1 wrote:
> For those who celebrate Thanksgiving - what do you plan to make this year? > > Ellen > > Jamaican Turkey with Jamaican stuffing. Mashed Rutabagas, Mashed Potatoes, Baked Sweet Potatoes Jamaican relish Gravy Greens of various kinds and Jello Waldorf Salad Dessert: Pumpkin Rum Pie with creme. Suet Mince Pie with a deep Rum Sauce Pecan-Rum Pie Dark Jamaican fruit cake. Prior to the meal there are things to nosh on such as: Shrimp with avocado in tomato aspic with horseradish sauce Fresh Stamp and Go Tandoori breads Small fruited meatballs made with pineapple, papaya, coconut. Blue mountain coffee. Paradise Teas Nuts and fresh fruit with cheese. Sleep! |
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>For those who celebrate Thanksgiving - what do you plan to make this year?
This year I'll do the same thing I did last year; I'll go out to a nice hotel about 30 miles from where I live, it's a historical landmark and very fancy, stay the night, then go to the lunchtime Thanksgiving buffet there, and return home. As I live alone it doesn't make much sense to make up a huge meal for one. Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man "The likelyhood of one individual being right increases in a direct proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong." |
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>For those who celebrate Thanksgiving - what do you plan to make this year?
This year I'll do the same thing I did last year; I'll go out to a nice hotel about 30 miles from where I live, it's a historical landmark and very fancy, stay the night, then go to the lunchtime Thanksgiving buffet there, and return home. As I live alone it doesn't make much sense to make up a huge meal for one. Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man "The likelyhood of one individual being right increases in a direct proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong." |
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Hahabogus writes:
> >What is the history of Thanksgiving? Didn't the settlers get together and >have a Community Feast/Celibration? Wouldn't that mean many hands cooking, >many hands sharing their bounty? ...Many friends and families sharing? >Wasn't the First Thanksgiving similar to a Church Pot-Luck Dinner? > >I don't believe it was formal dinner parties where the host supplied >everything. > >I believe it was farmed out to the community's women folk to cook up what >ever their men folk brought in from the fields or from the forest. > >I believe it would be closer to the true tradition, if friends and family >gathered to share their harvest bounty and celibrate having enough to >continue for one more year. No one really knows a great deal about what transpired at the first Thanksgiving but whatever it consisted of has no relation whatsoever to how the celebration has evolved... and in fact for more years than it has been celebrated it has not. Way back then the fork hadn't been invented as yet, folks ate mainly by grabbing food directly off the table (no dishes either) with their hands and ripping off mouthfuls with their teeth, those that had teeth, or slashing off great slabs with hunting knives. How folks dined at the first Thanksgiving has no relation to how manners/etiquette have evolved... if you feel more to home attacking your food like a pack of hyenas please don't stop on my account. http://www.historychannel.com/exhibi...ving/main.html ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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Hahabogus writes:
> >What is the history of Thanksgiving? Didn't the settlers get together and >have a Community Feast/Celibration? Wouldn't that mean many hands cooking, >many hands sharing their bounty? ...Many friends and families sharing? >Wasn't the First Thanksgiving similar to a Church Pot-Luck Dinner? > >I don't believe it was formal dinner parties where the host supplied >everything. > >I believe it was farmed out to the community's women folk to cook up what >ever their men folk brought in from the fields or from the forest. > >I believe it would be closer to the true tradition, if friends and family >gathered to share their harvest bounty and celibrate having enough to >continue for one more year. No one really knows a great deal about what transpired at the first Thanksgiving but whatever it consisted of has no relation whatsoever to how the celebration has evolved... and in fact for more years than it has been celebrated it has not. Way back then the fork hadn't been invented as yet, folks ate mainly by grabbing food directly off the table (no dishes either) with their hands and ripping off mouthfuls with their teeth, those that had teeth, or slashing off great slabs with hunting knives. How folks dined at the first Thanksgiving has no relation to how manners/etiquette have evolved... if you feel more to home attacking your food like a pack of hyenas please don't stop on my account. http://www.historychannel.com/exhibi...ving/main.html ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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Hahabogus writes:
> >What is the history of Thanksgiving? Didn't the settlers get together and >have a Community Feast/Celibration? Wouldn't that mean many hands cooking, >many hands sharing their bounty? ...Many friends and families sharing? >Wasn't the First Thanksgiving similar to a Church Pot-Luck Dinner? > >I don't believe it was formal dinner parties where the host supplied >everything. > >I believe it was farmed out to the community's women folk to cook up what >ever their men folk brought in from the fields or from the forest. > >I believe it would be closer to the true tradition, if friends and family >gathered to share their harvest bounty and celibrate having enough to >continue for one more year. No one really knows a great deal about what transpired at the first Thanksgiving but whatever it consisted of has no relation whatsoever to how the celebration has evolved... and in fact for more years than it has been celebrated it has not. Way back then the fork hadn't been invented as yet, folks ate mainly by grabbing food directly off the table (no dishes either) with their hands and ripping off mouthfuls with their teeth, those that had teeth, or slashing off great slabs with hunting knives. How folks dined at the first Thanksgiving has no relation to how manners/etiquette have evolved... if you feel more to home attacking your food like a pack of hyenas please don't stop on my account. http://www.historychannel.com/exhibi...ving/main.html ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>Jamaican Turkey with Jamaican stuffing. >Mashed Rutabagas, Mashed Potatoes, Baked Sweet Potatoes >Jamaican relish >Gravy >Greens of various kinds and Jello Waldorf Salad >Dessert: >Pumpkin Rum Pie with creme. >Suet Mince Pie with a deep Rum Sauce >Pecan-Rum Pie >Dark Jamaican fruit cake. >Prior to the meal there are things to nosh on such as: >Shrimp with avocado in tomato aspic with horseradish sauce >Fresh Stamp and Go >Tandoori breads >Small fruited meatballs made with pineapple, papaya, coconut. >Blue mountain coffee. >Paradise Teas >Nuts and fresh fruit with cheese. >Sleep! This all sounds wonderful ! My Thanksgiving dinner will be held at my brother's house in Dallas. A lot of family members are going up there for the weekend from all over the country. We all have talked about what to have, and it was decided that each of us would make something , while we are there , that is a speciality of ours. We all make certain he knows what we will be making and he will have everything there that we need to prepare it. This also gives him the chance to fill in with things, in case there is a hole somewhere. I have volunteered to make dinner rolls as I have to say, mine are excellent, and easy to make too. Rosie |
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