In article >,
wrote:

>All networks change after 20 years, especially cable channels. I
>remember watching MTV's 20th anniversary special in 2001, and a lot had
>changed since it debuted; less music videos and music-related
>programming, more reality shows. Just like MTV is now, Food Network is
>a joke. I was channel surfing last night and stumbled upon that show
>Sweet Genius; the opening of the program made it look like this guy was
>some heaven-sent luminary, brought to Earth to teach us peons how to
>make a cake you can't eat. It was ****ing obnoxious. Shit like that
>is par for the course on FN anymore, and will continue to be until or
>unless it's overhauled.

Twenty years ago, PBS was in real trouble and FN was expected to be the
final nail in its coffin. PBS had already lost many viewers to new
networks like A&E, Discovery Channel, TLC, and so on. One of the last
things PBS had going for it was cooking shows. Then FN came to be,
featuring lots of shows hosted by folks who had been guests on Julia
Child's show and others on PBS. It was supposed to be "lights out!" for
PBS. Flash forward 20 years, PBS is still with us, still featuring
stand-and-stir cooking shows, and FN (and all the other networks that
sprang up around the same time) have moved on to reality and competition
shows.

On Mon, 18 Nov 2013, Claudia Marie wrote:

> In article >,
> wrote:
>
>> All networks change after 20 years, especially cable channels. I
>> remember watching MTV's 20th anniversary special in 2001, and a lot had
>> changed since it debuted; less music videos and music-related
>> programming, more reality shows. Just like MTV is now, Food Network is
>> a joke. I was channel surfing last night and stumbled upon that show
>> Sweet Genius; the opening of the program made it look like this guy was
>> some heaven-sent luminary, brought to Earth to teach us peons how to
>> make a cake you can't eat. It was ****ing obnoxious. Shit like that
>> is par for the course on FN anymore, and will continue to be until or
>> unless it's overhauled.
>
> Twenty years ago, PBS was in real trouble and FN was expected to be the
> final nail in its coffin. PBS had already lost many viewers to new
> networks like A&E, Discovery Channel, TLC, and so on. One of the last
> things PBS had going for it was cooking shows. Then FN came to be,
> featuring lots of shows hosted by folks who had been guests on Julia
> Child's show and others on PBS. It was supposed to be "lights out!" for
> PBS. Flash forward 20 years, PBS is still with us, still featuring
> stand-and-stir cooking shows, and FN (and all the other networks that
> sprang up around the same time) have moved on to reality and competition
> shows.
>
>
I don't know whether it's still on (or rather, whether it's just the same
old episodes) but I rather liked that Scandinavian cooking show they had
on PBS. Get the fish right off the boat, then start a fire near the water,
and cook, cook, cook. But then, most of my earliest memories are from
being in Denmark for six months starting in the fall of 1964.

And PBS now has subchannels, and since one is devoted to cooking and
travel shows, there's even more chance to see the cooking shows in PBS.

Michael

On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 11:54:24 -0700, Claudia Marie wrote:

> In article >,
> wrote:
>
>>All networks change after 20 years, especially cable channels. I
>>remember watching MTV's 20th anniversary special in 2001, and a lot had
>>changed since it debuted; less music videos and music-related
>>programming, more reality shows. Just like MTV is now, Food Network is
>>a joke. I was channel surfing last night and stumbled upon that show
>>Sweet Genius; the opening of the program made it look like this guy was
>>some heaven-sent luminary, brought to Earth to teach us peons how to
>>make a cake you can't eat. It was ****ing obnoxious. Shit like that
>>is par for the course on FN anymore, and will continue to be until or
>>unless it's overhauled.
>
> Twenty years ago, PBS was in real trouble and FN was expected to be the
> final nail in its coffin. PBS had already lost many viewers to new
> networks like A&E, Discovery Channel, TLC, and so on. One of the last
> things PBS had going for it was cooking shows. Then FN came to be,
> featuring lots of shows hosted by folks who had been guests on Julia
> Child's show and others on PBS. It was supposed to be "lights out!" for
> PBS. Flash forward 20 years, PBS is still with us, still featuring
> stand-and-stir cooking shows, and FN (and all the other networks that
> sprang up around the same time) have moved on to reality and competition
> shows.

Listen, dumbass sometimes known as "Ubiquitous". You can try and
change your Message-ID formats, your newsreader, and your posting
names all you want (you've used 5 different posting names in the last
hour), but it's still very clear to some of us that all these posts
are coming from THE SAME COMPUTER.

Lay off all the sock puppeting and get a life, dude. How's that
Sandra Lee lawsuit coming along, BTW? This attempted morphing isn't
helping your case at all.

I thought PBS classics (Child's, Pepin, et. al., are still better than most of what you get on FN, and that boring old 'stand and stir" format beats these silly competition shows, and such. When Sandra Lee and Barefoot ****essa have their own shows; and they stick with them, you know they're hurting for biz.

Not all competition is bad. I can tolerate Throwdown and ICA (on rare occasion). I like Best Thing I ever Ate. But as a 24-7 deal, FN has some sad stuff. I could puke just hearing Paaaawwwwla's voice.