"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> I certainly was. I also started purchasing small kitchen items when I was
> about 18. I knew I wouldn't live at home forever. Steak knives were not
> high on my priority list. A collander, a whisk, some wooden spoons...

I started at 13. Some things were given to me. Used to babysit for a woman
who paid me with unwanted wedding gifts. When she ran out of stuff I might
want and was forcing me to choose from stuff I did not want, and had no
money to pay me, I quit.

One of my friends had a hope chest. I wanted one but wasn't given one so I
started my own in a cardboard box that fit under my bed. Eventually
expanded to several boxes, not all of which would fit under the bed.

I had no furniture when I moved out aside from bedroom stuff and some big
floor pillows. But I did have towels and other linens and enough stuff for
the kitchen to where I could cook and bake mostly anything. My mom started
me out with the spices. Those cost a lot!
>
>> They'll probably use the
>> steak knives for opening a stubborn sack of Cheerios, slicing the
>> wrapper on a new cd, scraping tar off the Welcome mat. Just no
>> telling. Polly
>>
> If that's the intended usage, why not just give them a couple of pair of
> good kitchen shears? The kind designed for cutting paper and plastic. I'd
> recommend and exacto-knife for tar on a welcome mat. LOL

Ooh yes! I finally bought myself a second pair. I use mine a lot.

"Goomba" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/22/13 9:00 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:54:26 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I ......... rarely use a cutting board.
>>
>> How can you get thru a day without using a cutting board? Hell, I've
>> used one probably 5 times today, and that was for normal meal making -
>> cutting bread, an orange, slicing a banana, some roasted chicken, halving
>> spuds for baking, cauliflower. Are you living out of boxes and cans?
>>
>
> She's an idiot. She just proves it with each long winded missive she
> posts.
> More insanely, she "cuts" on a freakin' paper plate. <insert eye roll> I
> can't imagine why? I believe in using the right tools for a job and it
> makes everything easier. I also wouldn't want to add yet more waste to the
> landfill or have to pay for plates when I have perfectly NORMAL cutting
> boards to use!

What's the diff? Paper plates are very cheap and I can often get them for
free. And here they don't go into the landfill. They are recycled. If you
want to waste soap, hot water, bleach, etc. to wash your cutting boards,
have at it!
>
> On a *positive* note- I found a lovely Boos cutting board for my son and
> his girlfriend for Christmas. The Newton Prep Master II. I like to give
> young people really good stuff early on (wedding presents, house warming
> gifts, etc) so that they will have wonderful tools for many, many years to
> come.
>
> http://www.johnboos.com/Items_page.a...alse&csa=False

I would get rid of that right away if gifted with that. I have never owned
a wooden cutting board nor would I.

On 11/22/2013 11:09 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 21:32:26 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> If I am cutting veggies up for salad, I may even cut them straight into the
>> bowl I am serving them in. Sometimes I even use my salad scissors for that.
>> And when it comes to things like onions and peppers, I usually have some
>> leftover pieces in my fridge that have already been at least partially cut
>> up. So all I have to do is cut through them with my scissors. Chances are
>> there is a slice or two of tomato in there too.
>
> All that seems like a half-assed way to cut things properly. Not to
> mention wasteful.
>
> But does it surprise me? Not at all.
>
> -sw
>

Still stalking her?

Sad....

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 21:32:26 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> If I am cutting veggies up for salad, I may even cut them straight into
>> the
>> bowl I am serving them in. Sometimes I even use my salad scissors for
>> that.
>> And when it comes to things like onions and peppers, I usually have some
>> leftover pieces in my fridge that have already been at least partially
>> cut
>> up. So all I have to do is cut through them with my scissors. Chances
>> are
>> there is a slice or two of tomato in there too.
>
> All that seems like a half-assed way to cut things properly. Not to
> mention wasteful.

How is it wasteful? No food goes to waste at all. I am talking about using
leftover bits of things from the fridge. And since I am generally the one
who eats these things... What do I care how pretty it is? If I were having
company over, I would of course take the time to make the salad look pretty.
>
> But does it surprise me? Not at all.

Mm hm.

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 21:32:26 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I do own some plastic cutting
> boards. Once in a great while I will use them. But it's just easier,
> quicker and a whole lot neater to use the plate.

I see you haven't bought into the "save a tree" theory of life.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"Goomba" > wrote in message
...

> She's an idiot.

You are nasty and too stupid to run a killfile.

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

> Then there was the muddling spoon. My parents were sooo proud to give me
> that! I didn't have one. Did I? Well, no. Perhaps because I don't
> DRINK! And I'm not about to have a cocktail party that would involve my
> muddling anything! I am sure they had no clue what it was when they
> bought it.

What is a muddling spoon and what does it do?

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In article >,
says...
>
> On Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:54:26 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> > I ......... rarely use a cutting board.
>
> How can you get thru a day without using a cutting board?

The cat psychic picked up agonised screams from the Bove cutting board.
That triggered Julie's sensitivity to knives and now she can only buy
ready sliced apples, carrots, cheese etc.

Janet UK

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:54:26 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > I ......... rarely use a cutting board.
>>
>> How can you get thru a day without using a cutting board?
>
> The cat psychic picked up agonised screams from the Bove cutting board.
> That triggered Julie's sensitivity to knives and now she can only buy
> ready sliced apples, carrots, cheese etc.
>

only to find out nobody in her house, including her, liked any of them.

In article >, says...

> I can't imagine young people eating much steak because it is one of the more
> expensive cuts f meat.

I know plenty of young people working hard and earning so much they
can buy and do whatever the hell they want. The world is their oyster.

Janet UK

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>
>> I can't imagine young people eating much steak because it is one of the
>> more
>> expensive cuts f meat.
>
> I know plenty of young people working hard and earning so much they
> can buy and do whatever the hell they want. The world is their oyster.
>

ditto. Even in this day and age, you can make something of yourself if you
have the mind to. Less motivation, though, since there are so many
government handouts and people telling you "its not your fault".

On 11/23/2013 5:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Then there was the muddling spoon. My parents were sooo proud to give me
>> that! I didn't have one. Did I? Well, no. Perhaps because I don't
>> DRINK! And I'm not about to have a cocktail party that would involve my
>> muddling anything! I am sure they had no clue what it was when they
>> bought it.
>
> What is a muddling spoon and what does it do?
>

Some drinks call for muddling mint, for instance. It essentially
smashes the herbs so they release the oils and flavors.

"Julie Bove" > wrote

> Then there was the muddling spoon. My parents were sooo proud to give me
> that! I didn't have one. Did I? Well, no. Perhaps because I don't
> DRINK! And I'm not about to have a cocktail party that would involve my
> muddling anything! I am sure they had no clue what it was when they
> bought it.

It was nice of them to shop for something they thought you'd like,
even if you didn't need it.

nancy

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 21:53:14 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>
> No recommendation about steak knives. I can't imagine finding myself
> "frequently reaching for a 'steak knife'". Myself and most people I
> know only use them when eating plated steak. Since you don't know if
> the grandkids even eat steak often... well, I wouldn't consider that a
> useful gift.

I don't use a steak knife when eating steak. I buy thick steaks that
can be cut into slices for serving, so the regular table knife works
just fine. In any case if kids today want steak knives, they just buy
a set of knives (in a block) that comes with them.

I hate the type of steak knife they sell these days with the
micro-whatever it's called anyway. They don't cut, they mangle. Buy
steak knives without that feature and they are yet another item with
an edge that needs to be kept maintained.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 23:47:42 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> If that's the intended usage, why not just give them a couple of pair of
> good kitchen shears?

That's something my local 99¢ store (not a chain) was useful for. I
could buy kitchen shears for $1 that were the same quality, maybe
better, than what I saw at regular stores for $20. I bought several
and use them for all sorts of things unrelated to cooking. Sadly,
that store hasn't been as interesting since the change in ownership -
so I haven't browsed in quite a while.

--
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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote
>
>> Then there was the muddling spoon. My parents were sooo proud to give me
>> that! I didn't have one. Did I? Well, no. Perhaps because I don't
>> DRINK! And I'm not about to have a cocktail party that would involve my
>> muddling anything! I am sure they had no clue what it was when they
>> bought it.
>
> It was nice of them to shop for something they thought you'd like,
> even if you didn't need it.

Indeed!
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/23/2013 5:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Then there was the muddling spoon. My parents were sooo proud to give
>>> me
>>> that! I didn't have one. Did I? Well, no. Perhaps because I don't
>>> DRINK! And I'm not about to have a cocktail party that would involve my
>>> muddling anything! I am sure they had no clue what it was when they
>>> bought it.
>>
>> What is a muddling spoon and what does it do?
>>
>
> Some drinks call for muddling mint, for instance. It essentially smashes
> the herbs so they release the oils and flavors.

Oh! Thanks, Ed) What a lovely name for it)

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Janet > wrote:
> In article >, says...
>
>> I can't imagine young people eating much steak because it is one of the more
>> expensive cuts f meat.
>
> I know plenty of young people working hard and earning so much they
> can buy and do whatever the hell they want. The world is their oyster.
>
> Janet UK

Around here, steak is frequently on sale for much less per pound than
boneless, skinless chicken breasts.
--
jinx the minx

>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...

>> I most often use wooden spoons. I have a lot of them with varying handle
>> lengths to handle pots of different depths. One is slotted, the other
>> with a hole in the middle.

I have one with the hole in the middle. It's the one I use for
polenta. Don't know why, but seeing the polenta flow through that hole
just looks cool.

Doris

jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/22/2013 9:00 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:54:26 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I ......... rarely use a cutting board.
>>
>> How can you get thru a day without using a cutting board?
>> Hell, I've used one probably 5 times today, and that was for
>> normal meal making - cutting bread, an orange, slicing a banana,
>> some roasted chicken, halving spuds for baking, cauliflower.
>> Are you living out of boxes and cans?
>>
> Do you *really* have to ask?!
>
> Jill
Non-responsive.

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 21:32:26 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I do own some plastic cutting
>> boards. Once in a great while I will use them. But it's just easier,
>> quicker and a whole lot neater to use the plate.
>
> I see you haven't bought into the "save a tree" theory of life.

There are plenty of trees here.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Then there was the muddling spoon. My parents were sooo proud to give me
>> that! I didn't have one. Did I? Well, no. Perhaps because I don't
>> DRINK! And I'm not about to have a cocktail party that would involve my
>> muddling anything! I am sure they had no clue what it was when they
>> bought it.
>
> What is a muddling spoon and what does it do?

Not sure entirely but it is used to make certain cocktails.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote
>
>> Then there was the muddling spoon. My parents were sooo proud to give me
>> that! I didn't have one. Did I? Well, no. Perhaps because I don't
>> DRINK! And I'm not about to have a cocktail party that would involve my
>> muddling anything! I am sure they had no clue what it was when they
>> bought it.
>
> It was nice of them to shop for something they thought you'd like,
> even if you didn't need it.

No doubt they found it on sale somewhere.

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>
>> I can't imagine young people eating much steak because it is one of the
>> more
>> expensive cuts f meat.
>
> I know plenty of young people working hard and earning so much they
> can buy and do whatever the hell they want. The world is their oyster.

Guess your economy is different then. I know young people who live in tent
city. And most of the ones who are employed are seriously underemployed.
Also know plenty of people my age or older who are unemployed or
underemployed. I see lots happening at the dance studio. Dance is not
something you can usually go into if your family is poor although there are
some exceptions. I see person after person having to quit dance or cut back
on what they are doing because one or both parents lost their job.

"Pico Rico" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Janet" > wrote in message
> t...
>> In article >, says...
>>
>>> I can't imagine young people eating much steak because it is one of the
>>> more
>>> expensive cuts f meat.
>>
>> I know plenty of young people working hard and earning so much they
>> can buy and do whatever the hell they want. The world is their oyster.
>>
>
> ditto. Even in this day and age, you can make something of yourself if
> you have the mind to. Less motivation, though, since there are so many
> government handouts and people telling you "its not your fault".

Guess your economy is different there as well. Here, the jobs are few and
far between for everyone! Not just the young. Has nothing to do with
motivation or working hard. The jobs are just not there.

"jinx the minx" > wrote in message
...
> Janet > wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>
>>> I can't imagine young people eating much steak because it is one of the
>>> more
>>> expensive cuts f meat.
>>
>> I know plenty of young people working hard and earning so much they
>> can buy and do whatever the hell they want. The world is their oyster.
>>
>> Janet UK
>
> Around here, steak is frequently on sale for much less per pound than
> boneless, skinless chicken breasts.

Not here. Not good steak anyway. And the truly poor don't eat meat unless
it is the occasional pack of hot dogs.

"The Other Guy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 23:59:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Then there was the muddling spoon. My parents were sooo proud to give
>>>> me
>>>> that! I didn't have one. Did I? Well, no. Perhaps because I don't
>>>> DRINK! And I'm not about to have a cocktail party that would involve my
>>>> muddling anything! I am sure they had no clue what it was when they
>>>> bought it.
>>>
>>> What is a muddling spoon and what does it do?
>>
>>Not sure entirely but it is used to make certain cocktails.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muddling_spoon

Thank you. Ed described it very well)
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On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 00:04:56 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:



>>>
>>> I know plenty of young people working hard and earning so much they
>>> can buy and do whatever the hell they want. The world is their oyster.
>>>
>>
>> ditto. Even in this day and age, you can make something of yourself if
>> you have the mind to. Less motivation, though, since there are so many
>> government handouts and people telling you "its not your fault".
>
>Guess your economy is different there as well. Here, the jobs are few and
>far between for everyone! Not just the young. Has nothing to do with
>motivation or working hard. The jobs are just not there.

Motivation is still a big factor. You still need some education or
skill. You still have to go out and find a job or do odd jobs to make
a few bucks. You can often relocate to where jobs are available.

Plenty of jobs are going begging because they cannot find qualified
people to fill them.
http://www.assemblymag.com/articles/...of-machinists-

The newspapers still have help wanted ads, so does Craig's List.

I recently hired two people for a basic factory job with minimal
skills needed. It took about 50 applicants to find two that:
Could pass a drug test
Could comprehend simple instructions
Had enough motivation to come to work every day.

This job would not get you steak every night, but it would get you
three meals a day and other benefits.
There are few jobs for the bozo crowd.

The Other Guy wrote:
>
> I do NOT buy boneless/skinless chicken,
> I can take the bone and skin off myself for a LOT less money!

I agree but I leave the bone and skin on for more full flavor.

G.

On Sunday, November 24, 2013 3:04:56 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Guess your economy is different there as well. Here, the jobs are few and
> far between for everyone! Not just the young. Has nothing to do with
> motivation or working hard. The jobs are just not there.

Unless one is in an unfortunate situation that stops one
from moving, there is no good reason not to move to
another town to get a job. I'm tired of people
complaining about jobs, particularly in the USA.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 23:59:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Then there was the muddling spoon. My parents were sooo proud to give me
>>> that! I didn't have one. Did I? Well, no. Perhaps because I don't
>>> DRINK! And I'm not about to have a cocktail party that would involve my
>>> muddling anything! I am sure they had no clue what it was when they
>>> bought it.
>>
>> What is a muddling spoon and what does it do?
>
>Not sure entirely but it is used to make certain cocktails.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muddler

In article >,
Julie Bove > wrote:
>
>What's the diff? Paper plates are very cheap and I can often get them for
>free. And here they don't go into the landfill. They are recycled. If you
>want to waste soap, hot water, bleach, etc. to wash your cutting boards,
>have at it!

Have you ever been in the vicinity of a paper mill? More resources are
used up in making a paper plate than in washing any cutting board.

Cindy Hamilton
--

On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:34:14 GMT, (Cindy Hamilton)
wrote:

> In article >,
> Julie Bove > wrote:
> >
> >What's the diff? Paper plates are very cheap and I can often get them for
> >free. And here they don't go into the landfill. They are recycled. If you
> >want to waste soap, hot water, bleach, etc. to wash your cutting boards,
> >have at it!
>
> Have you ever been in the vicinity of a paper mill? More resources are
> used up in making a paper plate than in washing any cutting board.
>
They used to put waste from "the" paper mill (which makes it sound
local, but I never knew where it was) on gravel roads when I was a
kid. Oh, man... that stuff was stinky!

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On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:34:14 GMT, (Cindy Hamilton)
wrote:

>In article >,
>Julie Bove > wrote:
>>
>>What's the diff? Paper plates are very cheap and I can often get them for
>>free. And here they don't go into the landfill. They are recycled. If you
>>want to waste soap, hot water, bleach, etc. to wash your cutting boards,
>>have at it!
>
>Have you ever been in the vicinity of a paper mill? More resources are
>used up in making a paper plate than in washing any cutting board.

That's not entirely true... millions of paper plates are produced in a
day, causing no more pollution than for producing one paper plate...
you need to distribute the waste fairly. Hand washing dishes pollutes
more than paper plates. But I'm still not going to do knife work on a
paper plate for reasons other than pollution.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:34:14 GMT, (Cindy Hamilton)
> wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> Julie Bove > wrote:
>> >
>> >What's the diff? Paper plates are very cheap and I can often get them
>> >for
>> >free. And here they don't go into the landfill. They are recycled. If
>> >you
>> >want to waste soap, hot water, bleach, etc. to wash your cutting boards,
>> >have at it!
>>
>> Have you ever been in the vicinity of a paper mill? More resources are
>> used up in making a paper plate than in washing any cutting board.
>>
> They used to put waste from "the" paper mill (which makes it sound
> local, but I never knew where it was) on gravel roads when I was a
> kid. Oh, man... that stuff was stinky!

Yep. We had one here. I am used to the smell.

On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:10:46 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:34:14 GMT, (Cindy Hamilton)
> > wrote:
> >
> >> In article >,
> >> Julie Bove > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >What's the diff? Paper plates are very cheap and I can often get them
> >> >for
> >> >free. And here they don't go into the landfill. They are recycled. If
> >> >you
> >> >want to waste soap, hot water, bleach, etc. to wash your cutting boards,
> >> >have at it!
> >>
> >> Have you ever been in the vicinity of a paper mill? More resources are
> >> used up in making a paper plate than in washing any cutting board.
> >>
> > They used to put waste from "the" paper mill (which makes it sound
> > local, but I never knew where it was) on gravel roads when I was a
> > kid. Oh, man... that stuff was stinky!
>
> Yep. We had one here. I am used to the smell.

Thanks. A friend I'm in touch with from elementary school says it was
some sort of waste from oil production. I had no idea they pumped any
oil in that area. I'm going with the paper mill theory.

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