"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/24/2013 6:10 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Consider the numbers and the types of crimes. While there may be the
>>> occasional well bred and wealthy killer, far more of the killers have
>>> a disadvantaged background, little money, bad parents, bad
>>> neighbourhoods and bad choices. Seriously, look at class pictures of
>>> kids in preppy private schools and compare them with a class picture
>>> from an inner city school. Consider the odds of kids in those two
>>> pictures being convicted or or a victim of a violent crime.
>>>
>>
>>
>> So, what's your point? I didn't say all, I said some, and *some* very
>> privileged preppy kids do turn out bad...like the Menendez Brothers,
>> Philip Markoff...just to name a couple.
>>
> \
> I would have thought that my point was pretty obvious..... that there are
> a small number or violent crimes committed by the supposedly well bred.
> You can name a small number of them because their being rich and their
> being the exceptional case makes headlines. Meanwhile, many thousands of
> murders are committed by the more or less disenfranchised. You may hear of
> one or two preppy murders per year in the US. Meanwhile there are close to
> 400 murders in Detroit alone. Internationally there is a pretty high
> corelation between poverty and murder rates.
>
> Exceptions do not make the rule, but feel free to live in denial.


I would have thought that my point was pretty obvious too, but you chose to
take exception, so feel free to argue the point with yourself.

Cheri

On 11/22/2013 10:36 PM, Goomba wrote:
>
> I'm actually more concerned with all the "gummy" vitamins on the market
> these days. It just begs for kids to be attracted to them, right???

I thought the same when I see those commercials for "gummies for
adults". Looks like candy.

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On 11/24/2013 10:02 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 11/22/2013 10:36 PM, Goomba wrote:
>>
>> I'm actually more concerned with all the "gummy" vitamins on the market
>> these days. It just begs for kids to be attracted to them, right???
>
> I thought the same when I see those commercials for "gummies for
> adults". Looks like candy.
>
Like those caramel calcium chews, if I have one I catch myself
wanting another one. It's not candy!

nancy

On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 20:55:23 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 11/24/2013 6:10 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Consider the numbers and the types of crimes. While there may be the
> >> occasional well bred and wealthy killer, far more of the killers have
> >> a disadvantaged background, little money, bad parents, bad
> >> neighbourhoods and bad choices. Seriously, look at class pictures of
> >> kids in preppy private schools and compare them with a class picture
> >> from an inner city school. Consider the odds of kids in those two
> >> pictures being convicted or or a victim of a violent crime.
> >>
> >
> >
> > So, what's your point? I didn't say all, I said some, and *some* very
> > privileged preppy kids do turn out bad...like the Menendez Brothers,
> > Philip Markoff...just to name a couple.
> >
> \
> I would have thought that my point was pretty obvious..... that there
> are a small number or violent crimes committed by the supposedly well
> bred. You can name a small number of them because their being rich and
> their being the exceptional case makes headlines. Meanwhile, many
> thousands of murders are committed by the more or less disenfranchised.
> You may hear of one or two preppy murders per year in the US. Meanwhile
> there are close to 400 murders in Detroit alone. Internationally there
> is a pretty high corelation between poverty and murder rates.
>
> Exceptions do not make the rule, but feel free to live in denial.

The exceptions are crimes that are so egregious that their personal
fortunes can't buy them off and that's the reality of the criminal
"justice" system in the USA.

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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/24/2013 10:02 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 11/22/2013 10:36 PM, Goomba wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm actually more concerned with all the "gummy" vitamins on the market
>>> these days. It just begs for kids to be attracted to them, right???
>>
>> I thought the same when I see those commercials for "gummies for
>> adults". Looks like candy.
>>
> Like those caramel calcium chews, if I have one I catch myself
> wanting another one. It's not candy!

That sounds quite worrying

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On 11/25/2013 3:41 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 11/24/2013 10:02 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>> On 11/22/2013 10:36 PM, Goomba wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm actually more concerned with all the "gummy" vitamins on the market
>>>> these days. It just begs for kids to be attracted to them, right???
>>>
>>> I thought the same when I see those commercials for "gummies for
>>> adults". Looks like candy.
>>>
>> Like those caramel calcium chews, if I have one I catch myself
>> wanting another one. It's not candy!
>
> That sounds quite worrying

It's not like I leave them in a candy dish, I don't actually
find myself going back for another, but if it was a little
caramel, I'd have two for sure.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/25/2013 3:41 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 11/24/2013 10:02 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>>> On 11/22/2013 10:36 PM, Goomba wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm actually more concerned with all the "gummy" vitamins on the
>>>>> market
>>>>> these days. It just begs for kids to be attracted to them, right???
>>>>
>>>> I thought the same when I see those commercials for "gummies for
>>>> adults". Looks like candy.
>>>>
>>> Like those caramel calcium chews, if I have one I catch myself
>>> wanting another one. It's not candy!
>>
>> That sounds quite worrying
>
> It's not like I leave them in a candy dish, I don't actually
> find myself going back for another, but if it was a little
> caramel, I'd have two for sure.

Imagine those around young kids
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On 11/25/2013 8:08 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> On 11/25/2013 3:41 AM, Ophelia wrote:

>>>> Like those caramel calcium chews, if I have one I catch myself
>>>> wanting another one. It's not candy!
>>>
>>> That sounds quite worrying
>>
>> It's not like I leave them in a candy dish, I don't actually
>> find myself going back for another, but if it was a little
>> caramel, I'd have two for sure.
>
> Imagine those around young kids

No, it's stuff like that you don't leave lying around. And
if you don't think you can keep your children from getting
into everything, don't buy those and don't buy detergent
tabs. Or prescription medication. Etc.

There's always something. When you have kids you have to put
some things where they can't get to it.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/25/2013 8:08 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>> On 11/25/2013 3:41 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>>>>> Like those caramel calcium chews, if I have one I catch myself
>>>>> wanting another one. It's not candy!
>>>>
>>>> That sounds quite worrying
>>>
>>> It's not like I leave them in a candy dish, I don't actually
>>> find myself going back for another, but if it was a little
>>> caramel, I'd have two for sure.
>>
>> Imagine those around young kids
>
> No, it's stuff like that you don't leave lying around. And
> if you don't think you can keep your children from getting
> into everything, don't buy those and don't buy detergent
> tabs. Or prescription medication. Etc.
>
> There's always something. When you have kids you have to put
> some things where they can't get to it.

Very true ... no matter what they are. I was thinking also about you being
attracted to eating more because they tasted good too.


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On 11/25/2013 8:45 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 11/25/2013 8:08 AM, Ophelia wrote:

>> Imagine those around young kids
>
> No, it's stuff like that you don't leave lying around. And
> if you don't think you can keep your children from getting
> into everything, don't buy those and don't buy detergent
> tabs. Or prescription medication. Etc.
>
> There's always something. When you have kids you have to put
> some things where they can't get to it.

If I sounded snappish to you, Ophelia, I didn't mean to,
sorry. Just saying, it's not that it's easy but you either
have to keep stuff away from kids or not have anything toxic
in your home. Not feasible.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/25/2013 8:45 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 11/25/2013 8:08 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>>> Imagine those around young kids
>>
>> No, it's stuff like that you don't leave lying around. And
>> if you don't think you can keep your children from getting
>> into everything, don't buy those and don't buy detergent
>> tabs. Or prescription medication. Etc.
>>
>> There's always something. When you have kids you have to put
>> some things where they can't get to it.
>
> If I sounded snappish to you, Ophelia, I didn't mean to,
> sorry.

I didn't take it that way so don't worry)

Just saying, it's not that it's easy but you either
> have to keep stuff away from kids or not have anything toxic
> in your home. Not feasible.

Quite right!

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On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 22:18:19 -0500, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 11/24/2013 10:02 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 11/22/2013 10:36 PM, Goomba wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm actually more concerned with all the "gummy" vitamins on the market
>>> these days. It just begs for kids to be attracted to them, right???
>>
>> I thought the same when I see those commercials for "gummies for
>> adults". Looks like candy.
>>
>Like those caramel calcium chews, if I have one I catch myself
>wanting another one. It's not candy!
>
>nancy
The recommended dose is 3 per day.
Janet US

On 2013-11-25 00:55:54 +0000, sf said:

> Why do you keep bringing up Nancy Grace?

Because everybody's guilty in her court before the case begins. And
because I hate her.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> What sort of changes do you make when the grandkids come over?

Get rid of *anything* that little ones can get into because they will.
No small objects for mouth. Make sure to get any dangerous
chemicals/cleaners out of reach. Put out of reach anything that you
value and don't want broken. The list goes on. I also hide my
ferret(s)...they break easy too.

G.

bandersnatch wrote:
>
> On 11/24/2013 11:11 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> > What sort of changes do you make when the grandkids come over?
> >
> > Jill
>
> I think he unloads all the handguns...

LOL! That's a good start.

G.

On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 10:20:25 -0800, gtr > wrote:

> On 2013-11-25 00:55:54 +0000, sf said:
>
> > Why do you keep bringing up Nancy Grace?
>
> Because everybody's guilty in her court before the case begins. And
> because I hate her.

Oh, okay. Thanks.

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"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013112510202560224-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-11-25 00:55:54 +0000, sf said:
>
>> Why do you keep bringing up Nancy Grace?
>
> Because everybody's guilty in her court before the case begins. And
> because I hate her.
>
She's a nasty piece of work!
Graham

"Cheryl" wrote in message
b.com...

On 11/22/2013 10:36 PM, Goomba wrote:
>
> I'm actually more concerned with all the "gummy" vitamins on the market
> these days. It just begs for kids to be attracted to them, right???

I thought the same when I see those commercials for "gummies for
adults". Looks like candy.
---------------------------------------------------------

They taste terrible, though that might not stop some kids.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/24/2013 4:04 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>>
>>> Jill never raised a child so she just doesn't realize that it's not so
>>> simple as she thinks. What she remembers is NOT all that went on. That
>>> doesn't make her a potential bad parent, she's just guessing how to
>>> solve a problem that she's never encountered. If only it were that
>>> easy.
>>
>> For many people it's better not to have children, only they don't find
>> out until after the fact. Knowing what I know now I'd not have
>> children. In most instances that I've encountered children do a lot
>> of taking and very little giving, they use up a parent's and society's
>> energy and resources and then go off rarely looking back unless they
>> want something. Not all, but for most people I know their children
>> return very little pleasure... many parents simply won't admit that
>> their children are leeches, but I see it. I get far more happiness
>> from my cats, and they ask for very little, they give a lot more than
>> they take. Jill is a good citizen, there are way too many people on
>> this planet, most leeches. Unfortunately, like others with no
>> children, Jill is paying a goodly portion of raising all the overly
>> prolific douchebag's little leeches.
>>
> Um, thank you, Sheldon. I think. <G> The way I look at it, my
> parents took care of me. And when they needed me, I took care of
> them. Not for as many years, no. It's a shame my mom waited so long
> to ask for help. By the time she asked, Dad was so far gone he didn't
> recognize me.
>
> Jill
Sounds like you really did a fantastic job of keeping in touch!

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...

> It's not like I leave them in a candy dish, I don't actually
> find myself going back for another, but if it was a little
> caramel, I'd have two for sure.

Remember the Ayds candies for weight loss? I could eat the whole damned box
before dinner and did many a time. Dull the appetite my eye!

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> What sort of changes do you make when the grandkids come over?
>
> Get rid of *anything* that little ones can get into because they will.
> No small objects for mouth. Make sure to get any dangerous
> chemicals/cleaners out of reach. Put out of reach anything that you
> value and don't want broken. The list goes on. I also hide my
> ferret(s)...they break easy too.

I got rid of all sorts of things when Angela was little. I used to collect
miniatures. I stopped buying any new ones and made sure they were all up
high. I actually had to do this when I got Maui, my cat. I had a little
toy that I got from the dollar store. It was a Ferris Wheel with little
faux Hello Kitty cats in it it. Maui would use her mouth to take the little
plastic cats out. She liked to carry them around, spit them into the air
then swat them with her paw. She did the same with golf tees.

I also collect rocks. Most would not be of a size that a kid could swallow
but they sure could throw them. So those were put away. I also had to hide
things like pens and pencils and scissors for a time.

Amazing how much stuff you have to get rid of or hide for a kid. My house
is certainly not kid proof now and thankfully Jetta isn't the average
kitten. She is very well behaved. Although she did do some damage to my
new drapes, once I moved the chair away from them, she has no longer tried
to climb them.

Now if I could just figure out what it was that attacked my glider! We came
home last night and Angela called me into the kitchen with a panicked voice.
There on the deck is a rather old glider that I got for my birthday. A few
years back, a bird or something landed on the top and put a slice in it.
Then a duck landed on it (I saw this) and fell all the way though. Duck was
shaken but not hurt. I just removed the top and it was still usable.

But now? Bits of white stuffing are hanging out everywhere! Something got
on it while we were out yesterday and clawed the crap out of both the seat
and the back. Time to dismantle it now and get rid of it whenever we do a
dump run. Just need to find the time to do it and hope that it will come
apart. I can see rust on it so hope that the bolts and such are not stuck
like glue.

"bhigh" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheryl" wrote in message
> b.com...
>
> On 11/22/2013 10:36 PM, Goomba wrote:
>>
>> I'm actually more concerned with all the "gummy" vitamins on the market
>> these days. It just begs for kids to be attracted to them, right???
>
> I thought the same when I see those commercials for "gummies for
> adults". Looks like candy.
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> They taste terrible, though that might not stop some kids.

Angela wouldn't eat them but then she never liked gummy candy either.

On 2013-11-26 23:57:35 +0000, Sqwertz said:

> Holy crap. Looks like he has a bunch of other groups to which he
> spends the rest of the day stalking and posting the same one-liner
> bullshit he does here. He's a very busy little boy. This is
> apparently a full time job (and then some!) for the whack-job. What
> he posts here is only the tip of the iceberg. What a way to spend the
> holidays, eh?
>
> This dude is SERIOUSLY ****ed up in the head. Nathan George and Mwako
> Cumbuka should be along soon to pick him up.

It really is pathetic. What a miserable life when your quest is to try
to pee on every stationary pant-leg. Man oh man, when you feel like
you're not getting much done, remember this guy.

On 2013-11-27 05:44:15 +0000, Pearl F. Buck said:

> Oh no Steve, can you imagine that others don't follow your Saukian
> fantasies in aff-f?

Goddam it you're an asshole! Is this all you have to do, endlessly
throw stink bombs into one little usenet enclave? Can't you try to get
with stamp collecting or assembling model cars or something? Jesus how
incomprehensibly lame!

On 11/27/2013 12:14 AM, gtr wrote:
> On 2013-11-27 05:44:15 +0000, Pearl F. Buck said:
>
>> Oh no Steve, can you imagine that others don't follow your Saukian
>> fantasies in aff-f?
>
> Goddam it you're an asshole!

Oh now come on, what's with all the hating?

> Is this all you have to do, endlessly
> throw stink bombs into one little usenet enclave?

"One"?

No.

> Can't you try to get
> with stamp collecting or assembling model cars or something? Jesus how
> incomprehensibly lame!

Says an equally obsessive little prick ;-)

On 11/26/2013 7:36 PM, gtr wrote:
> On 2013-11-26 23:57:35 +0000, Sqwertz said:
>
>> Holy crap. Looks like he has a bunch of other groups to which he
>> spends the rest of the day stalking and posting the same one-liner
>> bullshit he does here. He's a very busy little boy. This is
>> apparently a full time job (and then some!) for the whack-job. What
>> he posts here is only the tip of the iceberg. What a way to spend the
>> holidays, eh?
>>
>> This dude is SERIOUSLY ****ed up in the head. Nathan George and Mwako
>> Cumbuka should be along soon to pick him up.
>
> It really is pathetic. What a miserable life when your quest is to try
> to pee on every stationary pant-leg. Man oh man, when you feel like
> you're not getting much done, remember this guy.
>
>
Then look at what YOU do here, lol...