Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
residents. This struck me as funny.

I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine. Will
trade for 1 stick of butter."

As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately needs
a stick of margarine. LOL

Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old family
recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of a reason
to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
> residents. This struck me as funny.
>
> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine. Will
> trade for 1 stick of butter."
>
> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately needs a
> stick of margarine. LOL
>
> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old family
> recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of a reason
> to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.

lol so did you do it? Did you ask her why?

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On 11/25/2013 1:47 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
> residents. This struck me as funny.
>
> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine. Will
> trade for 1 stick of butter."
>
> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately needs
> a stick of margarine. LOL
>
> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old family
> recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of a reason
> to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>
> Jill

My guess is what you said, recipe calls for margarine. Maybe some baking
would be a little different if the shortening is changed.

Surely can't be for eating, but I've heard some people say they prefer
margarine over butter.

On Monday, November 25, 2013 12:56:20 PM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
>
> > residents. This struck me as funny.
>
> >
>
> > I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine. Will
>
> > trade for 1 stick of butter."
>
> >
>
> > As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately needs a
>
> > stick of margarine. LOL
>
> >
>
> > Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old family
>
> > recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of a reason
>
> > to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>
>
>
> lol so did you do it?

So, you're assuming that Jill *had* margarine to trade? I'd be insulted.

--Bryan sex+

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/25/2013 1:56 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
>>> residents. This struck me as funny.
>>>
>>> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine.
>>> Will trade for 1 stick of butter."
>>>
>>> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately
>>> needs a stick of margarine. LOL
>>>
>>> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old
>>> family recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of
>>> a reason to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>>
>> lol so did you do it? Did you ask her why?
>>
> I did reply saying sorry I couldn't help, but may I ask why? I got no
> answer.

tut, how rude

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

"jmcquown" wrote in message ...

Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
residents. This struck me as funny.

I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine. Will
trade for 1 stick of butter."

As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately needs
a stick of margarine. LOL

Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old family
recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of a reason
to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.

Jill

~~~~~~
Here's my guess: Perhaps she is going to have guests for Thanksgiving who
only eat margarine. Incidentally, I would only find that acceptable if the
guests were under doctor's orders to avoid certain types of fat. But if she
only requested "margarine," even that would not make the grade.

MaryL

On 11/25/13 1:47 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
> residents. This struck me as funny.
>
> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine. Will
> trade for 1 stick of butter."
>
> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately needs
> a stick of margarine. LOL
>
> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old family
> recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of a reason
> to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>
> Jill

Making a kosher meal perhaps?

On 11/25/2013 12:07 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:47:35 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
>> residents. This struck me as funny.
>>
>> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine. Will
>> trade for 1 stick of butter."
>>
>> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately needs
>> a stick of margarine. LOL
>>
>> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old family
>> recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of a reason
>> to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>
> Perhaps she's cooking for somebody who can't eat/drink dairy.
>
> Margarine is practically obsolete. Even Parkay doesn't make margarine
> any more. I wish her luck.
>
> -sw
>
> -sw
>
Try again:

http://supermarketsavvy.com/blog/201...garinespreads/

5 Healthiest Margarine/Spreads

On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 7:22:36 AM UTC+10, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:57:44 -0800 (PST), Timo wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 5:07:23 AM UTC+10, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>
> >> Perhaps she's cooking for somebody who can't eat/drink dairy.
> >
> > Most margarine here has dairy, and at least some big brands over
> > your way; one would need to specify dairy-free margarine.
>
> The amount of dairy in margarine, probably in the form of buttermilk
> or whey, would be insignificant (less than 4%) for somebody who is lactose
> intolerant.

Not insignificant for people allergic to cow milk proteins.

> But probably not insignificant enough to somebody who
> is a strict vegan.

If a _strict_ vegan, it would matter.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
> residents. This struck me as funny.
>
> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine. Will
> trade for 1 stick of butter."
>
> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately needs a
> stick of margarine. LOL
>
> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old family
> recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of a reason
> to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>
> Jill

Sometimes butter doesn't work well in cookies. Changes the texture.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...

> Surely can't be for eating, but I've heard some people say they prefer
> margarine over butter.

That used to be me. I got rancid butter at a restaurant as a young child.
I assumed all butter tasted like that.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:47:35 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
>> residents. This struck me as funny.
>>
>> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine. Will
>> trade for 1 stick of butter."
>>
>> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately needs
>> a stick of margarine. LOL
>>
>> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old family
>> recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of a reason
>> to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>
> Perhaps she's cooking for somebody who can't eat/drink dairy.
>
> Margarine is practically obsolete. Even Parkay doesn't make margarine
> any more. I wish her luck.

Nonsense!

"Timo" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 5:07:23 AM UTC+10, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps she's cooking for somebody who can't eat/drink dairy.
>
> Most margarine here has dairy, and at least some big brands over your way;
> one would need to specify dairy-free margarine.

Quite true. Very hard to find it without. And they are putting flax in it
now. Daughter can't have flax!

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:57:44 -0800 (PST), Timo wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 5:07:23 AM UTC+10, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps she's cooking for somebody who can't eat/drink dairy.
>>
>> Most margarine here has dairy, and at least some big brands over
>> your way; one would need to specify dairy-free margarine.
>
> The amount of dairy in margarine, probably in the form of buttermilk
> or whey, would be insignificant (less than 4%) for somebody who is lactose
> intolerant. But probably not insignificant enough to somebody who
> is a strict vegan.

But if a person were Jewish and kept kosher or had a dairy allergy or
intolerance, they couldn't have any dairy whatever.

"Goomba" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/25/13 1:47 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
>> residents. This struck me as funny.
>>
>> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine. Will
>> trade for 1 stick of butter."
>>
>> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately needs
>> a stick of margarine. LOL
>>
>> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old family
>> recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of a reason
>> to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Making a kosher meal perhaps?

But margarine wouldn't necessarily be kosher. Most of it does contain milk.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/25/2013 1:47 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
>> residents. This struck me as funny.
>>
>> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine.
>> Will trade for 1 stick of butter."
>>
>> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately
>> needs a stick of margarine. LOL
>>
>> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old
>> family recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think
>> of a reason to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>>
>> Jill
>
> My guess is what you said, recipe calls for margarine. Maybe some
> baking would be a little different if the shortening is changed.
>
> Surely can't be for eating, but I've heard some people say they prefer
> margarine over butter.

It's all about what you're used to. I know kids who can only drink 1%
milk because whole milk tastes, well, I don't know what it must taste
like to them, but I can't imagine preferring the low-fat form of
anything.

-S-

On 2013-11-25 1:47 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
> residents. This struck me as funny.
>
> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine. Will
> trade for 1 stick of butter."
>
> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately needs
> a stick of margarine. LOL
>
> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old family
> recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of a reason
> to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.




Maybe she had a recipe for that called for a stick of margarine and had
only butter. Maybe the recipe specifically said margarine, not butter.
Until a few years ago I never had margarine in the house.

On 11/25/2013 4:14 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 11/25/2013 1:56 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
>>>> residents. This struck me as funny.
>>>>
>>>> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine.
>>>> Will trade for 1 stick of butter."
>>>>
>>>> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately
>>>> needs a stick of margarine. LOL
>>>>
>>>> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old
>>>> family recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of
>>>> a reason to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>>>
>>> lol so did you do it? Did you ask her why?
>>>
>> I did reply saying sorry I couldn't help, but may I ask why? I got no
>> answer.
>
> tut, how rude
>
Ha! Spoke too fast. I guess she was busy. She said she's making dough
for pierogis; the recipe called for margarine, she didn't want to take
the chance. She found some.

Jill

On 11/25/2013 3:58 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> I know you live out there in the....sticks, shall we say? How far to drive to the nearest stick of margarine?
>
Roughly 12 miles (round trip) to the Family Dollar store.

Jill

On Monday, November 25, 2013 7:10:49 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/25/2013 4:14 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> > ...
>
> >> On 11/25/2013 1:56 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> >>> ...
>
> >>>> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
>
> >>>> residents. This struck me as funny.
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine.
>
> >>>> Will trade for 1 stick of butter."
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately
>
> >>>> needs a stick of margarine. LOL
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old
>
> >>>> family recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of
>
> >>>> a reason to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> lol so did you do it? Did you ask her why?
>
> >>>
>
> >> I did reply saying sorry I couldn't help, but may I ask why? I got no
>
> >> answer.
>
> >
>
> > tut, how rude
>
> >
>
> Ha! Spoke too fast. I guess she was busy. She said she's making dough
>
> for pierogis; the recipe called for margarine, she didn't want to take
>
> the chance. She found some.
>
>
>
> Jill

Kraft Macaroni & Cheese is better if it's made with margarine. And don't give me any shit about it. If you're eating Kraft M&C, you're not trying eat healthy. I'm SO tired of people who act like everything you put in your body is going to kill you. For most people, if you die before 75 you can thank your parents. Or alcohol.

On Monday, November 25, 2013 7:19:47 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/25/2013 3:58 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>
> > I know you live out there in the....sticks, shall we say? How far to drive to the nearest stick of margarine?
>
> >
>
> Roughly 12 miles (round trip) to the Family Dollar store.

No WONDER she sounded the alarm. I am spoiled - nearest stupermkt is less than a mile. I bet ppl moving there have to realign their shopping, meal planning and food hoarding strategies. Agh.

On 11/25/2013 8:01 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Monday, November 25, 2013 7:19:47 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/25/2013 3:58 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>>
>>> I know you live out there in the....sticks, shall we say? How far to drive to the nearest stick of margarine?
>>
>>>
>>
>> Roughly 12 miles (round trip) to the Family Dollar store.
>
> No WONDER she sounded the alarm. I am spoiled - nearest stupermkt is less than a mile.
> I bet ppl moving there have to realign their shopping, meal planning and food hoarding strategies. Agh.
>
Absolutely! Heck, the Family Dollar has only been there about 3 years.
This is why I generally make one big trip to the store a month. Also
why I have a separate freezer.

Jill

On 11/25/2013 1:59 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/25/2013 1:47 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
>> residents. This struck me as funny.
>>
>> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine. Will
>> trade for 1 stick of butter."
>>
>> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately needs
>> a stick of margarine. LOL
>>
>> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old family
>> recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of a reason
>> to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>>
>> Jill
>
> My guess is what you said, recipe calls for margarine. Maybe some baking
> would be a little different if the shortening is changed.
>
> Surely can't be for eating, but I've heard some people say they prefer
> margarine over butter.

Turns out to be exactly that... the recipe for perogie (sp?) dough
called for margarine. She was afraid she'd mess it up if she used
butter. At any rate, she got five offers of margarine so someone is
still buying it.

I grew up with margarine. Mom made a point of telling us on holidays it
was *real butter* we were spreading on our holiday dinner rolls. Of
course she always forgot to set the timer, so it became a source of
family fun. Mom burned the rolls again! But we get real butter! LOL

Jill

On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:59:05 AM UTC+10, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:42:29 -0800 (PST), Timo wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 7:22:36 AM UTC+10, Sqwertz wrote:
> >> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:57:44 -0800 (PST), Timo wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 5:07:23 AM UTC+10, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps she's cooking for somebody who can't eat/drink dairy.
> >>>
> >>> Most margarine here has dairy, and at least some big brands over
> >>> your way; one would need to specify dairy-free margarine.
> >>
> >> The amount of dairy in margarine, probably in the form of buttermilk
> >> or whey, would be insignificant (less than 4%) for somebody who is lactose
> >> intolerant.
> >
> > Not insignificant for people allergic to cow milk proteins.
>
> Did I mention that maybe she wants margarine due to milk allergies?
> No, I didn't.

You said "Perhaps she's cooking for somebody who can't eat/drink dairy."

If the prospective eater can have 4% dairy margarine, the prospective eater can eat/drink dairy.

As you say, lactose intolerance doesn't (usually) stop people from eating/drinking dairy; it stops them from eating/drinking a lot of dairy.

> Because if that were the case then she wouldn't be
> wanting margarine either.

Lots of people don't realise that most margarine isn't dairy-free.

> >> But probably not insignificant enough to somebody who
> >> is a strict vegan.
> >
> > If a _strict_ vegan, it would matter.
>
> No shit, asswipe. That's what I just said. Sheesh.

No, baboon-brain, you included the weasel-word "probably". Are your words so holy and infallible that it is a great sin to dare to correct them or add to them? If you can't stand correction when you're wrong, be correct in the first place. In the long term, that's a better method than angry bluster.

On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:07:23 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>Margarine is practically obsolete. Even Parkay doesn't make margarine
>any more.

So in my lifetime I've seen it go from sickly white gunk and a big dot
of yellow food coloring contained in a plastic bag that you had to
squeeze to distribute the color to "obsolete".

That's progress.

--
Bob
www.kanyak.com

On 11/25/2013 5:59 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:42:29 -0800 (PST), Timo wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 7:22:36 AM UTC+10, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:57:44 -0800 (PST), Timo wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 5:07:23 AM UTC+10, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps she's cooking for somebody who can't eat/drink dairy.
>>>>
>>>> Most margarine here has dairy, and at least some big brands over
>>>> your way; one would need to specify dairy-free margarine.
>>>
>>> The amount of dairy in margarine, probably in the form of buttermilk
>>> or whey, would be insignificant (less than 4%) for somebody who is lactose
>>> intolerant.
>>
>> Not insignificant for people allergic to cow milk proteins.
>
> Did I mention that maybe she wants margarine due to milk allergies?
> No, I didn't. Because if that were the case then she wouldn't be
> wanting margarine either. Now he you are getting all anal and trying
> to make my statement encompass every reason for not using margarine.
>
> Get a life, dude.
>
>>> But probably not insignificant enough to somebody who
>>> is a strict vegan.
>>
>> If a _strict_ vegan, it would matter.
>
> No shit, asswipe. That's what I just said. Sheesh.
>
> -sw
>

Lose the surly attitude, troll.

On 11/25/2013 6:02 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:35:18 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:47:35 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
>>>> residents. This struck me as funny.
>>>>
>>>> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine. Will
>>>> trade for 1 stick of butter."
>>>>
>>>> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately needs
>>>> a stick of margarine. LOL
>>>>
>>>> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old family
>>>> recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of a reason
>>>> to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>>>
>>> Perhaps she's cooking for somebody who can't eat/drink dairy.
>>>
>>> Margarine is practically obsolete. Even Parkay doesn't make margarine
>>> any more. I wish her luck.
>>
>> Nonsense!
>
> No,

Yes, and I proved it, you lying troll.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:35:18 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:47:35 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
>>>> residents. This struck me as funny.
>>>>
>>>> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine. Will
>>>> trade for 1 stick of butter."
>>>>
>>>> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately
>>>> needs
>>>> a stick of margarine. LOL
>>>>
>>>> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old family
>>>> recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of a
>>>> reason
>>>> to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>>>
>>> Perhaps she's cooking for somebody who can't eat/drink dairy.
>>>
>>> Margarine is practically obsolete. Even Parkay doesn't make margarine
>>> any more. I wish her luck.
>>
>> Nonsense!
>
> No, YOU are nonsense. Land O Lakes is pretty much the only major
> manufacturer who makes margarine any more (and that can be found on
> shelves).

Totally untrue. I buy Nucoa but I have seen Greg's Gold N' Soft,
Earthbalance, Fleishman's, the ever popular Blue Bonnet, there is Mother's.
Haven't seen it have only heard of it. Dammit. Let me Swagbuck it. You
won't like the results.

Here ya go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Margarine_brands

Some of these might be regional and perhaps some are no longer being made
but I know I have seen Benecol, Brummel and Brown, Imperial, Country Crock,
I Can't Believe..., and Parkay. I'm sure there are more than that. At most
grocery stores here, a good 3/4 brands of the stick/tub space is margarine.
You might have a choice of 3-4 brands of butter sticks (salted and unsalted)
and perhaps 3-4 of tub products. Some stores like Central Market might sell
imported butter like Kerrigold but it is with the fancy cheeses and not the
other butter.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:36:48 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:57:44 -0800 (PST), Timo wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 5:07:23 AM UTC+10, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps she's cooking for somebody who can't eat/drink dairy.
>>>>
>>>> Most margarine here has dairy, and at least some big brands over
>>>> your way; one would need to specify dairy-free margarine.
>>>
>>> The amount of dairy in margarine, probably in the form of buttermilk
>>> or whey, would be insignificant (less than 4%) for somebody who is
>>> lactose
>>> intolerant. But probably not insignificant enough to somebody who
>>> is a strict vegan.
>>
>> But if a person were Jewish and kept kosher or had a dairy allergy or
>> intolerance, they couldn't have any dairy whatever.
>
> Since when don't kosher eaters use dairy? Sheesh. Again.

They *can* eat it but they can't eat it with meat. So... If they were
making mashed potatoes for a turkey dinner, they could only use a dairy free
margarine (like Mother's) or something else such as olive oil. They could
not use butter or a dairy containing margarine. Must I spell everything out
for you?
>
> (And here's comes Timo with "not with meat they don't". Save it, OK?)

Nope. Too late. Already did it.

"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 11/25/2013 1:47 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
>>> residents. This struck me as funny.
>>>
>>> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine.
>>> Will trade for 1 stick of butter."
>>>
>>> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately
>>> needs a stick of margarine. LOL
>>>
>>> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old
>>> family recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think
>>> of a reason to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> My guess is what you said, recipe calls for margarine. Maybe some
>> baking would be a little different if the shortening is changed.
>>
>> Surely can't be for eating, but I've heard some people say they prefer
>> margarine over butter.
>
> It's all about what you're used to. I know kids who can only drink 1%
> milk because whole milk tastes, well, I don't know what it must taste like
> to them, but I can't imagine preferring the low-fat form of anything.

We grew up with skim milk. Now I don't like milk but any time I did try to
drink whole milk or worse yet, cream, it was like trying to down a bottle of
Wesson oil. Don't ask me how I know this!

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Maybe she had a recipe for that called for a stick of margarine and had
> only butter. Maybe the recipe specifically said margarine, not butter.
> Until a few years ago I never had margarine in the house.

We never had butter. Only Bluebonnet. I even used it for my shortbread
until my mom's friend gifted her with a cookie stamp and a recipe for
shortbread that said to only use butter. I did and what a difference! From
there, I did some experimenting. I learned that for many cookies, the best
mix was half shortening and half margarine. If I tried those things (like
Tollhouse) with all butter or even half butter and half something else,
there were textural differences and not in a good way. The cookies would
spread out far too much and be flat. Now some people do seem to like this.
I do not.

I can even recall with horror, the cookies that a coworker made. I think
they were oatmeal raisin. She pointed out to me that they had real butter
in them. As she said this, she pointed to the little lumps of butter. You
could see them. Seriously! Tiny lumps, perhaps the size of tiny canned
peas of pale yellow, now hardened up in the baked cookies. A few people
made the mistake of trying them. Another coworker took me aside and said,
"Doesn't she know to *mix* the dough before baking it? She must have mixed
it at least somewhat or she couldn't have formed it into cookies, but I'll
never know how she managed that.

I also learned that for most cookie doughs, your hands are the best mixers.

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...

> No WONDER she sounded the alarm. I am spoiled - nearest stupermkt is less
> than a mile. I bet ppl moving there have to realign their shopping, meal
> planning and food hoarding strategies. Agh.

I can remember always keeping a good stock of things when I lived on Cape
Cod. Although we did have a grocery store on the base, it wasn't open every
day or the week or late nights. And they had a limit of 3 of any one item
that you could buy at one time. Other than that, you had to drive at least
2 miles in any but one direction from our house to get off of the base. And
if you went out the closer gate, there was still nothing of use in sight of
use for miles. To me this was bad because I grew up with a supermarket, a
little grocery store and a 7-11 and drugstore all within one block of my
house. Closer still when we were able to cut through our neighbor's yard.

But in talking to another military wife, I learned that where she was from
(somewhere down South), the closest thing to her house when she was growing
up was 30 miles away. She had never eaten fast food so she didn't miss the
lack of it on the Cape.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/25/2013 1:59 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 11/25/2013 1:47 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
>>> residents. This struck me as funny.
>>>
>>> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine. Will
>>> trade for 1 stick of butter."
>>>
>>> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately needs
>>> a stick of margarine. LOL
>>>
>>> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old family
>>> recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of a reason
>>> to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> My guess is what you said, recipe calls for margarine. Maybe some baking
>> would be a little different if the shortening is changed.
>>
>> Surely can't be for eating, but I've heard some people say they prefer
>> margarine over butter.
>
> Turns out to be exactly that... the recipe for perogie (sp?) dough called
> for margarine. She was afraid she'd mess it up if she used butter. At
> any rate, she got five offers of margarine so someone is still buying it.
>
> I grew up with margarine. Mom made a point of telling us on holidays it
> was *real butter* we were spreading on our holiday dinner rolls. Of
> course she always forgot to set the timer, so it became a source of family
> fun. Mom burned the rolls again! But we get real butter! LOL

We got the burned rolls too but no butter. My mom always bought the brown
and serve rolls. She was very impressed by those but I'm not sure why. She
finally quit buying them when she realized that nobody really liked them.
She didn't even eat them herself! And we only did because we were hungry
and the infamous turkey roll in foil pan (light and dark meat with giblet
gravy) wasn't very appealing. She would put half of the rolls in the oven
and take them out when the timer rang. Then she would put the rest in there
and forget about them until somebody wanted one. Oops! Burned!

The other family tradition was making a Jell-O salad and forgetting about
it. Her favorite one was a layer of lime Jell-O with pineapple or pears in
it topped by another layer of lemon that had cream cheese or more likely,
cottage cheese whipped into it. Served in squares so we could marvel at its
glory. Every year she forgot to put it on the table. And every year, we
failed to remind her of it.

Until the year that she just decided never to make it again. And then we
would remind her. Any Jell-O lurking in there? And she would fume.

"Opinicus" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:07:23 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>Margarine is practically obsolete. Even Parkay doesn't make margarine
>>any more.
>
> So in my lifetime I've seen it go from sickly white gunk and a big dot
> of yellow food coloring contained in a plastic bag that you had to
> squeeze to distribute the color to "obsolete".
>
> That's progress.

sw is either a dumbass, unobservant or just an ass. Parkay does make it and
it's made with real milk!

http://www.parkay.com/index.jsp

They even brought the beloved tub back.

Go get your eyes checked squirty!

On Monday, November 25, 2013 1:07:23 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> Perhaps she's cooking for somebody who can't eat/drink dairy.
>
>
>
> Margarine is practically obsolete. Even Parkay doesn't make margarine
>
> any more. I wish her luck.

Wow, I didn't know Parkay didn't make margarine anymore. I used to like those ditzy commercials.

> wrote in message
...
> On Monday, November 25, 2013 1:07:23 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps she's cooking for somebody who can't eat/drink dairy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Margarine is practically obsolete. Even Parkay doesn't make margarine
>>
>> any more. I wish her luck.
>
> Wow, I didn't know Parkay didn't make margarine anymore. I used to like
> those ditzy commercials.

They do.

http://www.parkay.com/index.jsp

His credibility is now about on par with someone else here who would have us
nuke our latkes.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/25/2013 4:14 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 11/25/2013 1:56 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Where I live they have a private listserv. Antiquated email for
>>>>> residents. This struck me as funny.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just got an email that says, "Help! I need 1 stick of margarine.
>>>>> Will trade for 1 stick of butter."
>>>>>
>>>>> As my subject line states, we've got no idea *why* she desperately
>>>>> needs a stick of margarine. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone care to speculate? Maybe she doesn't want to vary an old
>>>>> family recipe. It sounds like an odd request to me. I can't think of
>>>>> a reason to swap a stick of butter for a stick of margarine.
>>>>
>>>> lol so did you do it? Did you ask her why?
>>>>
>>> I did reply saying sorry I couldn't help, but may I ask why? I got no
>>> answer.
>>
>> tut, how rude
>>
> Ha! Spoke too fast. I guess she was busy. She said she's making dough
> for pierogis; the recipe called for margarine, she didn't want to take the
> chance. She found some.

hah then she must be forgiven )

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On 11/25/2013 11:27 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> We've been through this before, Julie. I don't care to bicker with
> you about it again.
>
> -sw

Yet we all know you will and must.

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> >> Margarine is practically obsolete. Even Parkay doesn't make margarine
> >> any more.
> Land O Lakes is pretty much the only major
> manufacturer who makes margarine any more (and that can be found on
> shelves).

You are very wrong on this one, Steve. It might be a demographics
thing though....manufacturers only supply where the demand is.

Stopped at my grocery store this morning and made a point to look.
they sell at least 5 different kinds of margarine:
- Land o lakes
- Parkay
- Blue Bonnet
- Everyday Essential
- Imperial

Margarine is NOT dead... at least here in da south.

G.

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 11:01:44 -0500, Gary wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Margarine is practically obsolete. Even Parkay doesn't make margarine
> >>>> any more.
> >> Land O Lakes is pretty much the only major
> >> manufacturer who makes margarine any more (and that can be found on
> >> shelves).
> >
> > You are very wrong on this one, Steve. It might be a demographics
> > thing though....manufacturers only supply where the demand is.
> >
> > Stopped at my grocery store this morning and made a point to look.
> > they sell at least 5 different kinds of margarine:
> > - Land o lakes
> > - Parkay
> > - Blue Bonnet
> > - Everyday Essential
> > - Imperial
> >
> > Margarine is NOT dead... at least here in da south.
>
> Yes, they are. Haven't you learned yet not to contradict me?
>
> None of those except Land O Lakes make margarine any more. They are
> all "spreads" with significant amounts of water replacing the required
> amount of fat. None of them call themselves "margarine".
>
> -sw

No,,, all of the above that I listed said "margarine" on the
packages.

G.