I was at the grocery store today forgetting to buy tofu again and checked
out the bakery dept. Prices were higher than I'd expected, not that
I've paid all that close attention but I know the price of tiramisu has
really skyrocketed since 4-6 months ago. So that prompted me to take a
close look at all the offerings and I found myself examining some items
that only after several seconds registered as cupcakes. That's because
the frosting to cake ratio was at least 2 to 1, fooling me into thinking
they were some never before seen dessert. The enormous frosting toppings
came in the shape of, for example, a blue christmas tree; santa claus;
a snowman; or, a freaking house -- okay I exaggerate but you get the idea
.... cupcake frosting has reached literally ridiculous heights, where
the amount of frosting by any measure (height/weight/volume/tackiness)
is more than twice the amount of cake.

AND THEY COST FIVE DOLLARS

http://www.ftupet.com/~tert/img/misc...c/cupcakes.jpg

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:53:29 PM UTC+10, tert in seattle wrote:
>
> AND THEY COST FIVE DOLLARS

Art, not food. Pretty cheap for art.

On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 7:53:29 PM UTC-8, tert in seattle wrote:
> I was at the grocery store today forgetting to buy tofu again and checked
> out the bakery dept. Prices were higher than I'd expected, not that
> I've paid all that close attention but I know the price of tiramisu has
> really skyrocketed since 4-6 months ago. So that prompted me to take a
> close look at all the offerings and I found myself examining some items
> that only after several seconds registered as cupcakes. That's because
> the frosting to cake ratio was at least 2 to 1, fooling me into thinking
> they were some never before seen dessert. The enormous frosting toppings
> came in the shape of, for example, a blue christmas tree; santa claus;
> a snowman; or, a freaking house -- okay I exaggerate but you get the idea
> ... cupcake frosting has reached literally ridiculous heights, where
> the amount of frosting by any measure (height/weight/volume/tackiness)
> is more than twice the amount of cake.
>
>
>
> AND THEY COST FIVE DOLLARS
>
>
>
> http://www.ftupet.com/~tert/img/misc...c/cupcakes.jpg

tert -- tert -- it's been a long time since you and the little lady DID IT,

isn't it?

Try a little tenderness.

Timo wrote:
> On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:53:29 PM UTC+10, tert in seattle wrote:
>>
>> AND THEY COST FIVE DOLLARS
>
> Art, not food. Pretty cheap for art.

I'm pretty sure there are people eating the art

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
>I was at the grocery store today forgetting to buy tofu again and checked
> out the bakery dept. Prices were higher than I'd expected, not that
> I've paid all that close attention but I know the price of tiramisu has
> really skyrocketed since 4-6 months ago. So that prompted me to take a
> close look at all the offerings and I found myself examining some items
> that only after several seconds registered as cupcakes. That's because
> the frosting to cake ratio was at least 2 to 1, fooling me into thinking
> they were some never before seen dessert. The enormous frosting toppings
> came in the shape of, for example, a blue christmas tree; santa claus;
> a snowman; or, a freaking house -- okay I exaggerate but you get the idea
> ... cupcake frosting has reached literally ridiculous heights, where
> the amount of frosting by any measure (height/weight/volume/tackiness)
> is more than twice the amount of cake.
>
> AND THEY COST FIVE DOLLARS
>
> http://www.ftupet.com/~tert/img/misc...c/cupcakes.jpg

I think they've been like that for some time. Worse yet, they clump a lot of
cupcakes together to form a cake and then slap tons of frosting on all.

On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 03:53:29 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:

>I was at the grocery store today forgetting to buy tofu again and checked
>out the bakery dept. Prices were higher than I'd expected, not that
>I've paid all that close attention but I know the price of tiramisu has
>really skyrocketed since 4-6 months ago. So that prompted me to take a
>close look at all the offerings and I found myself examining some items
>that only after several seconds registered as cupcakes. That's because
>the frosting to cake ratio was at least 2 to 1, fooling me into thinking
>they were some never before seen dessert. The enormous frosting toppings
>came in the shape of, for example, a blue christmas tree; santa claus;
>a snowman; or, a freaking house -- okay I exaggerate but you get the idea
>... cupcake frosting has reached literally ridiculous heights, where
>the amount of frosting by any measure (height/weight/volume/tackiness)
>is more than twice the amount of cake.
>
>AND THEY COST FIVE DOLLARS
>
>http://www.ftupet.com/~tert/img/misc...c/cupcakes.jpg

Nothing in that photo looks edible. They must get a good discount at
the sugar factory.

Most supermarket bakeries have a mediocre cake to begin with and then
they pile it high with a mix that tastes like sweet Crisco. Horrid
stuff. I can imagine getting a sugar high just being in the same room
with it.

An entire generation has never tasted a really good yellow cake or
pound cake or a good buttercream frosting and they keep buying this
crap.

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> Timo wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:53:29 PM UTC+10, tert in seattle wrote:
>>>
>>> AND THEY COST FIVE DOLLARS
>>
>> Art, not food. Pretty cheap for art.
>
> I'm pretty sure there are people eating the art

lol

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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 03:53:29 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> > wrote:
>
>>I was at the grocery store today forgetting to buy tofu again and checked
>>out the bakery dept. Prices were higher than I'd expected, not that
>>I've paid all that close attention but I know the price of tiramisu has
>>really skyrocketed since 4-6 months ago. So that prompted me to take a
>>close look at all the offerings and I found myself examining some items
>>that only after several seconds registered as cupcakes. That's because
>>the frosting to cake ratio was at least 2 to 1, fooling me into thinking
>>they were some never before seen dessert. The enormous frosting toppings
>>came in the shape of, for example, a blue christmas tree; santa claus;
>>a snowman; or, a freaking house -- okay I exaggerate but you get the idea
>>... cupcake frosting has reached literally ridiculous heights, where
>>the amount of frosting by any measure (height/weight/volume/tackiness)
>>is more than twice the amount of cake.
>>
>>AND THEY COST FIVE DOLLARS
>>
>>http://www.ftupet.com/~tert/img/misc...c/cupcakes.jpg
>
> Nothing in that photo looks edible. They must get a good discount at
> the sugar factory.
>
> Most supermarket bakeries have a mediocre cake to begin with and then
> they pile it high with a mix that tastes like sweet Crisco. Horrid
> stuff. I can imagine getting a sugar high just being in the same room
> with it.
>
> An entire generation has never tasted a really good yellow cake or
> pound cake or a good buttercream frosting and they keep buying this
> crap.

Yep! My mom had a friend who would always appear at dinner time and invite
herself over. She always had something to complain about, including my cake
which most likely had a buttercream frosting because that's usually what I
made. She told me that a good frosting was make with Crisco! That made my
skin crawl.

This woman was a horrible cook. I think she liked her own cooking but
nobody else did. She's a nun now. I only hope they don't let her anywhere
near the kitchen.

On 2013-12-05, tert in seattle > wrote:

> the amount of frosting by any measure (height/weight/volume/tackiness)
> is more than twice the amount of cake.

Seems like every year someone comes out with a new trend making some
old minor interest into the next big thing. Scrapbooks, donuts, cake
decorating, etc. Seems I recall cupcakes getting this obsession
treatment awhile back. Evidently, it, and cake decorating in general,
is still with us. Aren't there (cup)cake TV programs? Last time I
went to WW, I passed the cake decorating section. Jay-sus ....it was
huge! I had no idea so much crap was available.

nb

On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 7:53:29 PM UTC-8, tert in seattle wrote:

They are cute though.

ImStillMags wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 7:53:29 PM UTC-8, tert in seattle wrote:
>
> They are cute though.

those santas look a little frazzled

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> ImStillMags wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 7:53:29 PM UTC-8, tert in seattle wrote:
>>
>> They are cute though.
>
> those santas look a little frazzled

Jings! And that is before Christmas!!! Whatever will he be like after ... ?

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On 2013-12-05, tert in seattle > wrote:

> those santas look a little frazzled

Kinda like a Bad Santa cupcake.

nb

On 12/4/2013 10:53 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> I was at the grocery store today forgetting to buy tofu again and checked
> out the bakery dept. Prices were higher than I'd expected, not that
> I've paid all that close attention but I know the price of tiramisu has
> really skyrocketed since 4-6 months ago. So that prompted me to take a
> close look at all the offerings and I found myself examining some items
> that only after several seconds registered as cupcakes. That's because
> the frosting to cake ratio was at least 2 to 1, fooling me into thinking
> they were some never before seen dessert. The enormous frosting toppings
> came in the shape of, for example, a blue christmas tree; santa claus;
> a snowman; or, a freaking house -- okay I exaggerate but you get the idea
> ... cupcake frosting has reached literally ridiculous heights, where
> the amount of frosting by any measure (height/weight/volume/tackiness)
> is more than twice the amount of cake.

(puzzled) You say that like it's a bad thing.

nancy

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 7:27:05 AM UTC-10, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 12/4/2013 10:53 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>
> > I was at the grocery store today forgetting to buy tofu again and checked
>
> > out the bakery dept. Prices were higher than I'd expected, not that
>
> > I've paid all that close attention but I know the price of tiramisu has
>
> > really skyrocketed since 4-6 months ago. So that prompted me to take a
>
> > close look at all the offerings and I found myself examining some items
>
> > that only after several seconds registered as cupcakes. That's because
>
> > the frosting to cake ratio was at least 2 to 1, fooling me into thinking
>
> > they were some never before seen dessert. The enormous frosting toppings
>
> > came in the shape of, for example, a blue christmas tree; santa claus;
>
> > a snowman; or, a freaking house -- okay I exaggerate but you get the idea
>
> > ... cupcake frosting has reached literally ridiculous heights, where
>
> > the amount of frosting by any measure (height/weight/volume/tackiness)
>
> > is more than twice the amount of cake.
>
>
>
> (puzzled) You say that like it's a bad thing.
>
>
>
> nancy

Kids dig frosting. Old folks, not so much. Too bad, they could use a big shot of sugar and fat. ���

On 12/5/2013 1:41 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, December 5, 2013 7:27:05 AM UTC-10, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 12/4/2013 10:53 PM, tert in seattle wrote:

>>> ... cupcake frosting has reached literally ridiculous heights, where
>>
>>> the amount of frosting by any measure (height/weight/volume/tackiness)
>>
>>> is more than twice the amount of cake.
>>
>>
>>
>> (puzzled) You say that like it's a bad thing.
>>

> Kids dig frosting. Old folks, not so much. Too bad, they could use a
> big shot of sugar and fat. ���

I don't know, it's been my experience that older people start
going for the sweet stuff. Even my mother, she never got the
point of frosting, saying Wouldn't that make it sweet? has
developed a liking for cakes and pies in the past few years.

Me, I like cake well enough, but when no one is looking? I eat
the cake part first and save the frosting for last. Good thing
I don't get cake or cupcakes very often.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/5/2013 1:41 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2013 7:27:05 AM UTC-10, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 12/4/2013 10:53 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>
>>>> ... cupcake frosting has reached literally ridiculous heights, where
>>>
>>>> the amount of frosting by any measure (height/weight/volume/tackiness)
>>>
>>>> is more than twice the amount of cake.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (puzzled) You say that like it's a bad thing.
>>>
>
>> Kids dig frosting. Old folks, not so much. Too bad, they could use a
> > big shot of sugar and fat. ���
>
> I don't know, it's been my experience that older people start
> going for the sweet stuff. Even my mother, she never got the
> point of frosting, saying Wouldn't that make it sweet? has
> developed a liking for cakes and pies in the past few years.
>
> Me, I like cake well enough, but when no one is looking? I eat
> the cake part first and save the frosting for last. Good thing
> I don't get cake or cupcakes very often.

<g>

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On 12/5/2013 9:47 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> I don't know, it's been my experience that older people start
> going for the sweet stuff. Even my mother, she never got the
> point of frosting, saying Wouldn't that make it sweet? has
> developed a liking for cakes and pies in the past few years.
>
> Me, I like cake well enough, but when no one is looking? I eat
> the cake part first and save the frosting for last. Good thing
> I don't get cake or cupcakes very often.
>
> nancy
>
>
We had the hardest time getting my mother-in-law to eat and keep from
wasting away. She did like sweet stuff but we never tried cake and
frosting. That would have been great if she ate that. I would have
bought her all the cake she could handle.

On 12/5/2013 4:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 12/5/2013 9:47 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> I don't know, it's been my experience that older people start
>> going for the sweet stuff. Even my mother, she never got the
>> point of frosting, saying Wouldn't that make it sweet? has
>> developed a liking for cakes and pies in the past few years.

> We had the hardest time getting my mother-in-law to eat and keep from
> wasting away. She did like sweet stuff but we never tried cake and
> frosting. That would have been great if she ate that. I would have
> bought her all the cake she could handle.

It was the same with my inlaws, it got to where I'd always bring
a decorated bakery cake or those tins of butter cookies. I don't
know if it's just a taste bud thing or what. Maybe more to it than
that.

Really, if cake is what made them eat, here you go.

nancy

On 12/5/2013 5:55 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 12/5/2013 4:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 12/5/2013 9:47 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't know, it's been my experience that older people start
>>> going for the sweet stuff. Even my mother, she never got the
>>> point of frosting, saying Wouldn't that make it sweet? has
>>> developed a liking for cakes and pies in the past few years.
>
>> We had the hardest time getting my mother-in-law to eat and keep from
>> wasting away. She did like sweet stuff but we never tried cake and
>> frosting. That would have been great if she ate that. I would have
>> bought her all the cake she could handle.
>
> It was the same with my inlaws, it got to where I'd always bring
> a decorated bakery cake or those tins of butter cookies. I don't
> know if it's just a taste bud thing or what. Maybe more to it than
> that.
>
> Really, if cake is what made them eat, here you go.
>
> nancy

My dad consumed a lot of bakery-made pastries and the like. (Apparently
he had a serious sweet tooth in the last few years of his life.) The
only way to get him to eat was give him something either sweet or with a
bit of a kick to it (like spaghetti sauce). I don't really think he
could taste much else. Mom was the opposite, but then always did prefer
fairly bland food. You give them what they'll eat and try not to fret
about it too much.

Jill

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/5/2013 1:41 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2013 7:27:05 AM UTC-10, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 12/4/2013 10:53 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>
>>>> ... cupcake frosting has reached literally ridiculous heights, where
>>>
>>>> the amount of frosting by any measure (height/weight/volume/tackiness)
>>>
>>>> is more than twice the amount of cake.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (puzzled) You say that like it's a bad thing.
>>>
>
>> Kids dig frosting. Old folks, not so much. Too bad, they could use a
> > big shot of sugar and fat. ���
>
> I don't know, it's been my experience that older people start
> going for the sweet stuff. Even my mother, she never got the
> point of frosting, saying Wouldn't that make it sweet? has
> developed a liking for cakes and pies in the past few years.
>
> Me, I like cake well enough, but when no one is looking? I eat
> the cake part first and save the frosting for last. Good thing
> I don't get cake or cupcakes very often.
>
> nancy

My mother loves the frosting. My nephew hates the stuff. He's an adult but
never liked it. He gives her his frosting. I used to like some frosting.
Never the Crisco stuff. And rarely the cake.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...

> We had the hardest time getting my mother-in-law to eat and keep from
> wasting away. She did like sweet stuff but we never tried cake and
> frosting. That would have been great if she ate that. I would have bought
> her all the cake she could handle.

The elderly woman we called our adopted grandma would only eat green Jell-O.

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 6:06:08 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 03:53:29 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
>
> > > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>I was at the grocery store today forgetting to buy tofu again and checked
>
> >>out the bakery dept. Prices were higher than I'd expected, not that
>
> >>I've paid all that close attention but I know the price of tiramisu has
>
> >>really skyrocketed since 4-6 months ago. So that prompted me to take a
>
> >>close look at all the offerings and I found myself examining some items
>
> >>that only after several seconds registered as cupcakes. That's because
>
> >>the frosting to cake ratio was at least 2 to 1, fooling me into thinking
>
> >>they were some never before seen dessert. The enormous frosting toppings
>
> >>came in the shape of, for example, a blue christmas tree; santa claus;
>
> >>a snowman; or, a freaking house -- okay I exaggerate but you get the idea
>
> >>... cupcake frosting has reached literally ridiculous heights, where
>
> >>the amount of frosting by any measure (height/weight/volume/tackiness)
>
> >>is more than twice the amount of cake.
>
> >>
>
> >>AND THEY COST FIVE DOLLARS
>
> >>
>
> >>http://www.ftupet.com/~tert/img/misc...c/cupcakes.jpg
>
> >
>
> > Nothing in that photo looks edible. They must get a good discount at
>
> > the sugar factory.
>
> >
>
> > Most supermarket bakeries have a mediocre cake to begin with and then
>
> > they pile it high with a mix that tastes like sweet Crisco. Horrid
>
> > stuff. I can imagine getting a sugar high just being in the same room
>
> > with it.
>
> >
>
> > An entire generation has never tasted a really good yellow cake or
>
> > pound cake or a good buttercream frosting and they keep buying this
>
> > crap.
>
>
>
> Yep! My mom had a friend who would always appear at dinner time and invite
>
> herself over. She always had something to complain about, including my cake
>
> which most likely had a buttercream frosting because that's usually what I
>
> made. She told me that a good frosting was make with Crisco! That made my
>
> skin crawl.
>
>
>
> This woman was a horrible cook. I think she liked her own cooking but
>
> nobody else did. She's a nun now. I only hope they don't let her anywhere
>
> near the kitchen.

You piece of shit liar. You know GODDAMNED well that your White trash mother also used Crisco. You telling me that her trashy ass used butter back when most folks used Crisco/margarine? You're a ****ing blow-out-the-ass liar.

The shit in the cans, which I'm sure your defective mother used is made with Crisco. There are still a few ****ing idiots like Ophelia--no wait, she's not an idiot, she just likes to care for damaged, defective pieces of humanity.

Then there's Gary, who just likes to know that there's someone else here who has more crappy tastes than himself, but at least he's honest about it.

--Bryan

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/5/2013 5:55 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 12/5/2013 4:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 12/5/2013 9:47 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't know, it's been my experience that older people start
>>>> going for the sweet stuff. Even my mother, she never got the
>>>> point of frosting, saying Wouldn't that make it sweet? has
>>>> developed a liking for cakes and pies in the past few years.
>>
>>> We had the hardest time getting my mother-in-law to eat and keep from
>>> wasting away. She did like sweet stuff but we never tried cake and
>>> frosting. That would have been great if she ate that. I would have
>>> bought her all the cake she could handle.
>>
>> It was the same with my inlaws, it got to where I'd always bring
>> a decorated bakery cake or those tins of butter cookies. I don't
>> know if it's just a taste bud thing or what. Maybe more to it than
>> that.
>>
>> Really, if cake is what made them eat, here you go.
>>
>> nancy
>
> My dad consumed a lot of bakery-made pastries and the like. (Apparently
> he had a serious sweet tooth in the last few years of his life.) The only
> way to get him to eat was give him something either sweet or with a bit of
> a kick to it (like spaghetti sauce). I don't really think he could taste
> much else. Mom was the opposite, but then always did prefer fairly bland
> food. You give them what they'll eat and try not to fret about it too
> much.

I never did understand this thing where very old people are put on a
restricted diet! Hell why???? Let them enjoy whatever life they have
left!!

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> wrote in message
...

>>I never did understand this thing where very old people are put on a
>>restricted diet! Hell why???? Let them enjoy whatever life they have
>>left!!
>
> Quite - the last few months of my mothers life (she had a brain
> tumour) all she wanted was an avocado for lunch and smoked salmon for
> supper, accompanied by a couple of g&t's. My doctor thought it was
> hilarious and said of many things he had heard of people latching on
> to, avocados and smoked salmon were at least very nutritional ! I saw
> no reason to try and persuade her to eat something she didn't want.

Excellent))) Well done you))

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On 12/6/2013 7:28 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote

>> On 12/5/2013 5:55 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

>>> Really, if cake is what made them eat, here you go.

>> really think he could taste much else. Mom was the opposite, but then
>> always did prefer fairly bland food. You give them what they'll eat
>> and try not to fret about it too much.
>
> I never did understand this thing where very old people are put on a
> restricted diet! Hell why???? Let them enjoy whatever life they have
> left!!

Really, and last I heard, grown people get to decide for
themselves if they want salad or they want cake.

A lot of doctors should be more concerned about the plethora
of scary conflicting medications older people seem to be on
than if they ate plain chicken for dinner. Just my observation.

nancy

In article >,
Nancy Young > wrote:
>On 12/4/2013 10:53 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> I was at the grocery store today forgetting to buy tofu again and checked
>> out the bakery dept. Prices were higher than I'd expected, not that
>> I've paid all that close attention but I know the price of tiramisu has
>> really skyrocketed since 4-6 months ago. So that prompted me to take a
>> close look at all the offerings and I found myself examining some items
>> that only after several seconds registered as cupcakes. That's because
>> the frosting to cake ratio was at least 2 to 1, fooling me into thinking
>> they were some never before seen dessert. The enormous frosting toppings
>> came in the shape of, for example, a blue christmas tree; santa claus;
>> a snowman; or, a freaking house -- okay I exaggerate but you get the idea
>> ... cupcake frosting has reached literally ridiculous heights, where
>> the amount of frosting by any measure (height/weight/volume/tackiness)
>> is more than twice the amount of cake.
>
>(puzzled) You say that like it's a bad thing.

For those of us who don't like frosting, yes, it is a bad thing.

When my husband and I share a slice of layer cake, he gets the
top and I get the bottom.

Cindy Hamilton
--

On 12/6/2013 8:48 AM, wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:37:34 -0500, Nancy Young

>> A lot of doctors should be more concerned about the plethora
>> of scary conflicting medications older people seem to be on
>> than if they ate plain chicken for dinner. Just my observation.

> The two that bother me - statins which make so many of my friends feel
> ghastly and taking a small dose of aspirin daily. Studies have shown
> that although that might save some, it's only something like one
> person in 200 but the damage even the small dose of aspirin can do to
> so many seems lost in the mist.

Argh, I'm an aspirin abuser, myself. I'm stopping.

> The best bet is to be very leery of anything big pharma makes a bundle
> on !

I heard something recently that doctors think most people should
be on statins. I mean, who's paying them. Not to be cynical, but
they hand out these serious drugs seemingly without a second thought,
you wonder why.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/6/2013 7:28 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote
>
>>> On 12/5/2013 5:55 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>>> Really, if cake is what made them eat, here you go.
>
>>> really think he could taste much else. Mom was the opposite, but then
>>> always did prefer fairly bland food. You give them what they'll eat
>>> and try not to fret about it too much.
>>
>> I never did understand this thing where very old people are put on a
>> restricted diet! Hell why???? Let them enjoy whatever life they have
>> left!!
>
> Really, and last I heard, grown people get to decide for
> themselves if they want salad or they want cake.
>
> A lot of doctors should be more concerned about the plethora
> of scary conflicting medications older people seem to be on
> than if they ate plain chicken for dinner. Just my observation.

Oh yes!

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> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:37:34 -0500, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>>On 12/6/2013 7:28 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote
>>
>>>> On 12/5/2013 5:55 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>>> Really, if cake is what made them eat, here you go.
>>
>>>> really think he could taste much else. Mom was the opposite, but then
>>>> always did prefer fairly bland food. You give them what they'll eat
>>>> and try not to fret about it too much.
>>>
>>> I never did understand this thing where very old people are put on a
>>> restricted diet! Hell why???? Let them enjoy whatever life they have
>>> left!!
>>
>>Really, and last I heard, grown people get to decide for
>>themselves if they want salad or they want cake.
>>
>>A lot of doctors should be more concerned about the plethora
>>of scary conflicting medications older people seem to be on
>>than if they ate plain chicken for dinner. Just my observation.
>>
>>nancy
>
> The two that bother me - statins which make so many of my friends feel
> ghastly and taking a small dose of aspirin daily. Studies have shown
> that although that might save some, it's only something like one
> person in 200 but the damage even the small dose of aspirin can do to
> so many seems lost in the mist.
>
> The best bet is to be very leery of anything big pharma makes a bundle
> on !

We take the small asprin (one at night) but wouldn't touch statins with the
proverbial!

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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
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> On 12/6/2013 8:48 AM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:37:34 -0500, Nancy Young
>
>>> A lot of doctors should be more concerned about the plethora
>>> of scary conflicting medications older people seem to be on
>>> than if they ate plain chicken for dinner. Just my observation.
>
>> The two that bother me - statins which make so many of my friends feel
>> ghastly and taking a small dose of aspirin daily. Studies have shown
>> that although that might save some, it's only something like one
>> person in 200 but the damage even the small dose of aspirin can do to
>> so many seems lost in the mist.
>
> Argh, I'm an aspirin abuser, myself. I'm stopping.
>
>> The best bet is to be very leery of anything big pharma makes a bundle
>> on !
>
> I heard something recently that doctors think most people should
> be on statins. I mean, who's paying them. Not to be cynical, but
> they hand out these serious drugs seemingly without a second thought, you
> wonder why.

Yes, the first thing the docs seem to say is ... you really ought to be on
statins ... When she saw my face she said .. oh, you are not keen then ....

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On Friday, December 6, 2013 5:05:40 AM UTC-8, wrote:




> >I never did understand this thing where very old people are put on a
> >restricted diet! Hell why???? Let them enjoy whatever life they have
> >left!!
>
>
>
> Quite - the last few months of my mothers life (she had a brain
> tumour) all she wanted was an avocado for lunch and smoked salmon for
> supper, accompanied by a couple of g&t's. My doctor thought it was
> hilarious and said of many things he had heard of people latching on
> to, avocados and smoked salmon were at least very nutritional ! I saw
> no reason to try and persuade her to eat something she didn't want.

Thank goodness your mother could get her g&ts. After a lifetime drinking one
or two beers a day, my grandfather was told to stop, allegedly by his doctor.
No longer did the jug of Gallo Rhinegarten sit next to his chair at the
dinner table. He lived another seven years, but what was the point?

On 12/6/2013 7:28 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 12/5/2013 5:55 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 12/5/2013 4:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On 12/5/2013 9:47 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know, it's been my experience that older people start
>>>>> going for the sweet stuff. Even my mother, she never got the
>>>>> point of frosting, saying Wouldn't that make it sweet? has
>>>>> developed a liking for cakes and pies in the past few years.
>>>
>>>> We had the hardest time getting my mother-in-law to eat and keep from
>>>> wasting away. She did like sweet stuff but we never tried cake and
>>>> frosting. That would have been great if she ate that. I would have
>>>> bought her all the cake she could handle.
>>>
>>> It was the same with my inlaws, it got to where I'd always bring
>>> a decorated bakery cake or those tins of butter cookies. I don't
>>> know if it's just a taste bud thing or what. Maybe more to it than
>>> that.
>>>
>>> Really, if cake is what made them eat, here you go.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>> My dad consumed a lot of bakery-made pastries and the like.
>> (Apparently he had a serious sweet tooth in the last few years of his
>> life.) The only way to get him to eat was give him something either
>> sweet or with a bit of a kick to it (like spaghetti sauce). I don't
>> really think he could taste much else. Mom was the opposite, but then
>> always did prefer fairly bland food. You give them what they'll eat
>> and try not to fret about it too much.
>
> I never did understand this thing where very old people are put on a
> restricted diet! Hell why???? Let them enjoy whatever life they have
> left!!
>
I don't understand that, either. When Mom was in the hospital they had
her on some gawd-awful low-fat, low-sodium diet. I took her some crab
cakes. The nurse was horrified. "She's not supposed to eat that!" Why
on earth not? She's 82 and she's not eating the crap you're feeding her.

Jill

Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>
> Then there's Gary, who just likes to know that there's someone else here who has more crappy tastes than himself, but at least he's honest about it.

How did I end up in this food rant, Bryan?

For a good TIAD meal, try Hamburger Helper sometime but substitute a
greasy pound of hot ground sausage for the ground beef. yum.

G.

As my old boss used to say, "Heck, I'd eat a turd if it was properly
prepared."

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I never did understand this thing where very old people are put on a
> restricted diet! Hell why???? Let them enjoy whatever life they have
> left!!

My parents (80's) are eating very badly due to doctor's advice.
I've told mom, heck with that. If you can't enjoy your food, is life
really worth it?

G.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/6/2013 7:28 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 12/5/2013 5:55 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>> On 12/5/2013 4:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On 12/5/2013 9:47 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know, it's been my experience that older people start
>>>>>> going for the sweet stuff. Even my mother, she never got the
>>>>>> point of frosting, saying Wouldn't that make it sweet? has
>>>>>> developed a liking for cakes and pies in the past few years.
>>>>
>>>>> We had the hardest time getting my mother-in-law to eat and keep from
>>>>> wasting away. She did like sweet stuff but we never tried cake and
>>>>> frosting. That would have been great if she ate that. I would have
>>>>> bought her all the cake she could handle.
>>>>
>>>> It was the same with my inlaws, it got to where I'd always bring
>>>> a decorated bakery cake or those tins of butter cookies. I don't
>>>> know if it's just a taste bud thing or what. Maybe more to it than
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> Really, if cake is what made them eat, here you go.
>>>>
>>>> nancy
>>>
>>> My dad consumed a lot of bakery-made pastries and the like.
>>> (Apparently he had a serious sweet tooth in the last few years of his
>>> life.) The only way to get him to eat was give him something either
>>> sweet or with a bit of a kick to it (like spaghetti sauce). I don't
>>> really think he could taste much else. Mom was the opposite, but then
>>> always did prefer fairly bland food. You give them what they'll eat
>>> and try not to fret about it too much.
>>
>> I never did understand this thing where very old people are put on a
>> restricted diet! Hell why???? Let them enjoy whatever life they have
>> left!!
>>
> I don't understand that, either. When Mom was in the hospital they had
> her on some gawd-awful low-fat, low-sodium diet. I took her some crab
> cakes. The nurse was horrified. "She's not supposed to eat that!" Why
> on earth not? She's 82 and she's not eating the crap you're feeding her.

You just couldn't make it up could you!!!!!!!!!

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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> I never did understand this thing where very old people are put on a
>> restricted diet! Hell why???? Let them enjoy whatever life they have
>> left!!
>
> My parents (80's) are eating very badly due to doctor's advice.
> I've told mom, heck with that. If you can't enjoy your food, is life
> really worth it?

Amen!


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"Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message
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> You piece of shit liar. You know GODDAMNED well that your White trash
> mother also used Crisco. You telling me that her trashy ass used butter
> back when most folks used Crisco/margarine? You're a ****ing
> blow-out-the-ass liar.

My mom used Blue Bonnet when I was growing up. But she came from a farm
where they made their own butter so I know if there was cake, she did use
butter in the frosting then. They were poor growing up so likely there was
not much cake.
>
> The shit in the cans, which I'm sure your defective mother used is made
> with Crisco. There are still a few ****ing idiots like Ophelia--no wait,
> she's not an idiot, she just likes to care for damaged, defective pieces
> of humanity.

I don't even remember canned frosting from my childhood. Not saying that it
didn't exist. Just that I don't remember it. I do remember buying boxed
frosting a time or two and we didn't like it. My mom is the one who taught
me to make frosting. Unless I was making something specific that required a
recipe like royal icing (and I'm sure if I had made that enough I wouldn't
have needed a recipe), I just made it. Sometimes I would change it up by
adding orange juice instead of milk or adding cinnamon or cocoa or whatever.
I also learned to make my own roses and other decorations at an early age.
We used to have a cake decorating and candy making supply store here and at
one point I lived near there. And no, I never used the Wilton candy melts.
Ick!
>
> Then there's Gary, who just likes to know that there's someone else here
> who has more crappy tastes than himself, but at least he's honest about
> it.

I'm honest too. So as a kid, my buttercream did have Blue Bonnet in it. So
sue me.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...

> I never did understand this thing where very old people are put on a
> restricted diet! Hell why???? Let them enjoy whatever life they have
> left!!

Sometimes it is necessary. If my dad eats the wrong thing, he won't be
enjoying it later and neither will those around him or those who will need
to do the laundry!

I'm not even old yet and have to eat a restricted diet. A few moments of
pleasure on my lips are not worth the agony of the hours that could follow.