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Among the Dataw lunch specials today:
Blue Plate Special: Pear and Blue Cheese Salad Candied Pecans, Cranberry, Blue Cheese Crumble, Grape, Tomato, and Sliced Pears Served Over Mixed Greens $9.50 It might be absolutely wonderful. I still don't think of this as a [traditional] Blue Plate Special. ![]() Jill |
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On 2013-12-10, jmcquown > wrote:
> It might be absolutely wonderful. I still don't think of this as a > [traditional] Blue Plate Special. ![]() Cuz it's not. Wiki sez: "....It typically consists of a "meat and three" (three vegetables), presented on a single plate". Wiki for "meat and three" is even more mystifying: "Meat and three is popular throughout the mid-South, and particularly in Tennessee and Nashville." News to me!! I was stationed jes outside Nashville in the late 60s and never once saw a "meat and three" resto in Nashville: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Katie's_Meat_and_Three.jpg In fact, back then, Nashville was the fast-food mecca of the nation. Every country star worth a nickel had a fast-food joint. I knew of exactly TWO! places that were not scarf-n'-barfs. One was a hole-in-the-wall German dump down by the train yard where we could get real limburger sandwiches and other auth German home cooking. The other was an upscale Spanish resto that was way beyond a lowly GIs budget. Everything else was franchise city, even if there was only one location. It was burgers, chicken, or pizza. You wanted anything else, you hadda go elsewhere. Mahilia Jackson's Chicken, Eddie Arnold's Chicken, Al Hirt's Sandwich Salon, Tennessee Ernie Ford's Steak n' Biscuits, Minnie Pearl's Chicken, MP's Dairy Queen, and MP's Roast Beef, yada yada.... No KFC. Minnie ruled Nashville, then. Her's were true franchises, with locations all over town. Al Hirt hated hippies, so would buy up just opened head shops and replace 'em with his crappy sammy joints. The only one I ever wondered about, yet never tried, was Little Jimmie Dicken's Tahitian Hut, or some such nonsense. No kidding. Prolly shoulda tried it, as it appears he was something of a gourmand/foodie in his day. Was later crowned honorary chef of the Opry. Regardless, I can gar-own-damn-tee there were no places serving a blue plate special or meat and 3 in Opryland in '68-69. nb |
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:05:29 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote: > Among the Dataw lunch specials today: > > Blue Plate Special: > Pear and Blue Cheese Salad > > Candied Pecans, Cranberry, Blue Cheese Crumble, > Grape, Tomato, and Sliced Pears > Served Over Mixed Greens > > $9.50 > > It might be absolutely wonderful. I still don't think of this as a > [traditional] Blue Plate Special. ![]() > It's certainly not, but I don't consider something like that a main dish either. When I cook, it's a side salad. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On 12/10/2013 1:19 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:05:29 -0500, jmcquown > > wrote: > >> Among the Dataw lunch specials today: >> >> Blue Plate Special: >> Pear and Blue Cheese Salad >> >> Candied Pecans, Cranberry, Blue Cheese Crumble, >> Grape, Tomato, and Sliced Pears >> Served Over Mixed Greens >> >> $9.50 >> >> It might be absolutely wonderful. I still don't think of this as a >> [traditional] Blue Plate Special. ![]() >> > > It's certainly not, but I don't consider something like that a main > dish either. When I cook, it's a side salad. > > I agree with that assessment, although I do know some folks who will only have a salad for lunch. And we don't know how big this salad is... Jill |
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On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:44:45 AM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
> > "Meat and three is popular throughout the mid-South, and particularly > > in Tennessee and Nashville." > > > > News to me!! I was stationed jes outside Nashville in the late 60s > > and never once saw a "meat and three" resto in Nashville: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Katie's_Meat_and_Three.jpg > > > > In fact, back then, Nashville was the fast-food mecca of the nation. > > Every country star worth a nickel had a fast-food joint. I knew of > > exactly TWO! places that were not scarf-n'-barfs. One was a > > hole-in-the-wall German dump down by the train yard where we could get > > real limburger sandwiches and other auth German home cooking. The > > other was an upscale Spanish resto that was way beyond a lowly GIs > > budget. Everything else was franchise city, even if there was only > > one location. It was burgers, chicken, or pizza. You wanted anything > > else, you hadda go elsewhere. Mahilia Jackson's Chicken, Eddie > > Arnold's Chicken, Al Hirt's Sandwich Salon, Tennessee Ernie Ford's > > Steak n' Biscuits, Minnie Pearl's Chicken, MP's Dairy Queen, and MP's > > Roast Beef, yada yada.... > > You never ventured out in the neighborhoods is why you never came across any "meat and three" restaurants. And since you are so clueless they owners did not advertise them as such, only the locals called these mom & pop restaurants "meat and three" establishments. > > > No KFC. Minnie ruled Nashville, then. Her's were true franchises, > > with locations all over town. Al Hirt hated hippies, so would buy up > > just opened head shops and replace 'em with his crappy sammy joints. > > The only one I ever wondered about, yet never tried, was Little Jimmie > > Dicken's Tahitian Hut, or some such nonsense. No kidding. Prolly > > shoulda tried it, as it appears he was something of a gourmand/foodie > > in his day. Was later crowned honorary chef of the Opry. > > Yes, we had KFC. Minnie Pearl's establishment did not last long as her chicken was blech. > > > Regardless, I can gar-own-damn-tee there were no places serving a blue > > plate special or meat and 3 in Opryland in '68-69. > > > That's because there was no Opryland until the summer of 1972. > nb |
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On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:10:56 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 12/10/2013 1:58 PM, wrote: > > > On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:44:45 AM UTC-6, notbob wrote: > > > > >> plate special or meat and 3 in Opryland in '68-69. > > >> > > >> > > > That's because there was no Opryland until the summer of 1972. > > > > > In all fairness, I think he meant the Grand Old Opry. ![]() > > > > Jill > > When did the Grand Old Opry ever serve meals????????? |
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On 12/10/2013 6:05 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> Among the Dataw lunch specials today: > > Blue Plate Special: > Pear and Blue Cheese Salad > > Candied Pecans, Cranberry, Blue Cheese Crumble, > Grape, Tomato, and Sliced Pears > Served Over Mixed Greens > > $9.50 > > It might be absolutely wonderful. I still don't think of this as a > [traditional] Blue Plate Special. ![]() > > Jill Your analysis of this agrees with the data in my memory banks. The candied pecans makes this a wonderful salad. Candied pecans should be the new bacon. I predict that one day, it will be. Tell the management you want a real blue plate special - a cheap, complete, meal on a single plate. Tell them that they better make god damn sure the plate is blue. For a beverage, might I suggest warm water from a tap? Why yes, I may. :-) |
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:05:29 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote: >Among the Dataw lunch specials today: > >Blue Plate Special: >Pear and Blue Cheese Salad > >Candied Pecans, Cranberry, Blue Cheese Crumble, >Grape, Tomato, and Sliced Pears >Served Over Mixed Greens > >$9.50 > >It might be absolutely wonderful. I still don't think of this as a >[traditional] Blue Plate Special. ![]() That could qualify as a sort of fusion signature fruit salad but not an entree like a typical meat/spud/2veg Blue Plate. I don't like that combo anyway, comes darn close to TIAD... or a GBG-SS (*** Blade Greek-Style Salad). Now was that fresh pear or canned, and did it come with a kaiser roll? lol |
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On 12/10/2013 3:05 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:05:29 -0500, jmcquown > > wrote: > >> Among the Dataw lunch specials today: >> >> Blue Plate Special: >> Pear and Blue Cheese Salad >> >> Candied Pecans, Cranberry, Blue Cheese Crumble, >> Grape, Tomato, and Sliced Pears >> Served Over Mixed Greens >> >> $9.50 >> >> It might be absolutely wonderful. I still don't think of this as a >> [traditional] Blue Plate Special. ![]() > > That could qualify as a sort of fusion signature fruit salad but not > an entree like a typical meat/spud/2veg Blue Plate. Someone there sure likes the term "Blue Plate Special". ![]() > I don't like that > combo anyway, comes darn close to TIAD... or a GBG-SS (*** Blade > Greek-Style Salad). Now was that fresh pear or canned, and did it > come with a kaiser roll? lol > It doesn't specify fresh or other pears. I'm sure they served some sort of toasted croutons, if not a toasted kaiser roll. ![]() Jill |
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:19:37 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote: >On 12/10/2013 3:05 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:05:29 -0500, jmcquown > >> wrote: >> >>> Among the Dataw lunch specials today: >>> >>> Blue Plate Special: >>> Pear and Blue Cheese Salad >>> >>> Candied Pecans, Cranberry, Blue Cheese Crumble, >>> Grape, Tomato, and Sliced Pears >>> Served Over Mixed Greens >>> >>> $9.50 >>> >>> It might be absolutely wonderful. I still don't think of this as a >>> [traditional] Blue Plate Special. ![]() >> >> That could qualify as a sort of fusion signature fruit salad but not >> an entree like a typical meat/spud/2veg Blue Plate. > >Someone there sure likes the term "Blue Plate Special". ![]() > >> I don't like that >> combo anyway, comes darn close to TIAD... or a GBG-SS (*** Blade >> Greek-Style Salad). Now was that fresh pear or canned, and did it >> come with a kaiser roll? lol >> >It doesn't specify fresh or other pears. I'm sure they served some sort >of toasted croutons, if not a toasted kaiser roll. ![]() What do you think they do with the stale kaiser rolls; Kaiser Kroutons! ![]() |
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On 2013-12-10, jmcquown > wrote:
> In all fairness, I think he meant the Grand Old Opry. ![]() yep. nb |
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On 2013-12-10, jmcquown > wrote:
> I didn't say they served meals. I didn't pay too much attention. Don't know if it was GOO or Opryland (what's that, a theme park?). Little Jimmy D was named honorary chef of "the cafe" of one of those two. I got the impression it was a little eatery backstage for the entertainers, etc. Google it. nb |
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On 2013-12-10 11:05 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> Among the Dataw lunch specials today: > > Blue Plate Special: > Pear and Blue Cheese Salad > > Candied Pecans, Cranberry, Blue Cheese Crumble, > Grape, Tomato, and Sliced Pears > Served Over Mixed Greens > > $9.50 > > It might be absolutely wonderful. I still don't think of this as a > [traditional] Blue Plate Special. ![]() > That is even further from a Blue Plate special that the one you wrote about before. If I were running that restaurant I would call it a salad. |
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On 12/10/2013 3:20 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2013-12-10 11:05 AM, jmcquown wrote: >> Among the Dataw lunch specials today: >> >> Blue Plate Special: >> Pear and Blue Cheese Salad >> >> Candied Pecans, Cranberry, Blue Cheese Crumble, >> Grape, Tomato, and Sliced Pears >> Served Over Mixed Greens >> >> $9.50 >> >> It might be absolutely wonderful. I still don't think of this as a >> [traditional] Blue Plate Special. ![]() >> > That is even further from a Blue Plate special that the one you wrote > about before. If I were running that restaurant I would call it a salad. It's a retirement community, be glad it's not lime jello with cottage cheese and...oh...never mind... |
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![]() "jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > Among the Dataw lunch specials today: > > Blue Plate Special: > Pear and Blue Cheese Salad > > Candied Pecans, Cranberry, Blue Cheese Crumble, > Grape, Tomato, and Sliced Pears > Served Over Mixed Greens > > $9.50 > > It might be absolutely wonderful. I still don't think of this as a > [traditional] Blue Plate Special. ![]() > > Jill Some restaurants just have specials. That's what I might call this. Not blue plate though. |
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On 2013-12-10 1:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> It's certainly not, but I don't consider something like that a main >> dish either. When I cook, it's a side salad. >> >> > I agree with that assessment, although I do know some folks who will > only have a salad for lunch. And we don't know how big this salad is... > IMO salad is always a salad. The one the club offered is a salad. If it has a lot of lettuce it is a salad. There aren't many things that are called a salad that I would consider to be a meal on its own. Salad Nicoise would be an exception because it has real food in it, like eggs, potatoes, beans and tuna. There is a little lettuce, but it's basically just garnish. |
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On 12/10/2013 3:28 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message > ... >> Among the Dataw lunch specials today: >> >> Blue Plate Special: >> Pear and Blue Cheese Salad >> >> Candied Pecans, Cranberry, Blue Cheese Crumble, >> Grape, Tomato, and Sliced Pears >> Served Over Mixed Greens >> >> $9.50 >> >> It might be absolutely wonderful. I still don't think of this as a >> [traditional] Blue Plate Special. ![]() >> >> Jill > > Some restaurants just have specials. That's what I might call this. > Not blue plate though. Well the plate might be blue, but the food if froo froo... |
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On 2013-12-10 5:43 PM, Casa Sabrosa wrote:
>> Some restaurants just have specials. That's what I might call this. >> Not blue plate though. > > Well the plate might be blue, but the food if froo froo... It's not even much of a special. To me, "special" implies that there is something.... special... about it. Throw a bunch of vegetables on a dish and sprinkle a bit of blue cheese on it an charge $9.50 is more of a ripoff than a special. |
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On 12/10/2013 12:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2013-12-10 5:43 PM, Casa Sabrosa wrote: > >>> Some restaurants just have specials. That's what I might call this. >>> Not blue plate though. >> >> Well the plate might be blue, but the food if froo froo... > > > It's not even much of a special. To me, "special" implies that there is > something.... special... about it. Throw a bunch of vegetables on a > dish and sprinkle a bit of blue cheese on it an charge $9.50 is more of > a ripoff than a special. I think that in this case, "special" means that it's cheaper than the other menu items and you can get if fast. What makes it special is that there absolutely nothing special about it. |
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Dave Smith wrote:
>jmcquown wrote: > >>> It's certainly not, but I don't consider something like that a main >>> dish either. When I cook, it's a side salad. >>> >> I agree with that assessment, although I do know some folks who will >> only have a salad for lunch. And we don't know how big this salad is... >> > >IMO salad is always a salad. The one the club offered is a salad. If it >has a lot of lettuce it is a salad. There aren't many things that are >called a salad that I would consider to be a meal on its own. Chef's Salad is a meal, so can be most Salad Bars. And of course Tuna Salad, Egg Salad Salmon Salad, and similar is a meal... I've made Spam Salad that's a meal. I prepare a huge tossed salad often that is definitely a meal, and enough for three day's meals. I consider a Bean Salad a meal too... one of my favorites is a Many Bean Marinated Salad that contains cubes of various cheeses and sausages.... I also like pasta/potato salads that contain beans, sausages, cheeses, and lots of veggies. A plate of fresh greens, onions, tomatoes, cukes, and a can of sardines on top is definitely a salad that's a meal. |
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On 2013-12-10, Dave Smith > wrote:
> IMO salad is always a salad. The one the club offered is a salad. If it > has a lot of lettuce it is a salad. There aren't many things that are > called a salad that I would consider to be a meal on its own. Salad > Nicoise would be an exception...... Gotta disagree with you on this one, Dave. A good Cobb salad is definitely a full meal. Even with the egg missing, there's still plenty of protein. Also the American perversion of a Caesar salad with grilled chicken breast. In fact, many of these salad classics will stand on their own as a complete meal. http://www.saveur.com/gallery/Classic-Salads nb |
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On 12/10/2013 8:28 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2013-12-10, Dave Smith > wrote: > >> IMO salad is always a salad. The one the club offered is a salad. If it >> has a lot of lettuce it is a salad. There aren't many things that are >> called a salad that I would consider to be a meal on its own. Salad >> Nicoise would be an exception...... > > Gotta disagree with you on this one, Dave. A good Cobb salad is > definitely a full meal. Even with the egg missing, there's still > plenty of protein. Also the American perversion of a Caesar salad > with grilled chicken breast. In fact, many of these salad classics > will stand on their own as a complete meal. > > http://www.saveur.com/gallery/Classic-Salads > > nb > But it still isn't a "blue plate special" ![]() Jill |
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:20:25 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: > On 2013-12-10 11:05 AM, jmcquown wrote: > > Among the Dataw lunch specials today: > > > > Blue Plate Special: > > Pear and Blue Cheese Salad > > > > Candied Pecans, Cranberry, Blue Cheese Crumble, > > Grape, Tomato, and Sliced Pears > > Served Over Mixed Greens > > > > $9.50 > > > > It might be absolutely wonderful. I still don't think of this as a > > [traditional] Blue Plate Special. ![]() > > > That is even further from a Blue Plate special that the one you wrote > about before. If I were running that restaurant I would call it a salad. Whoever is writing the menu clearly doesn't know what a Blue Plate is... just call it a Daily Special. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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Dave Smith > wrote: >On 2013-12-10 1:23 PM, jmcquown wrote: > >>> It's certainly not, but I don't consider something like that a main >>> dish either. When I cook, it's a side salad. >>> >>> >> I agree with that assessment, although I do know some folks who will >> only have a salad for lunch. And we don't know how big this salad is... >> > >IMO salad is always a salad. The one the club offered is a salad. If it >has a lot of lettuce it is a salad. There aren't many things that are >called a salad that I would consider to be a meal on its own. Salad >Nicoise would be an exception because it has real food in it, like eggs, >potatoes, beans and tuna. There is a little lettuce, but it's basically >just garnish. Opinions vary. I regularly lunch on a Greek salad that has a piece of feta a little bigger than the length and width of my palm, and about a quarter inch thick. It's served on a plate about a foot in diameter, covered but not heaped with the usual lettuce and stuff. It comes with bread and oil. I'm stuffed at the end of the meal, and not hungry again until dinner time. Cindy Hamilton -- |
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![]() "jmcquown" wrote in message ... Among the Dataw lunch specials today: Blue Plate Special: Pear and Blue Cheese Salad Candied Pecans, Cranberry, Blue Cheese Crumble, Grape, Tomato, and Sliced Pears Served Over Mixed Greens $9.50 It might be absolutely wonderful. I still don't think of this as a [traditional] Blue Plate Special. ![]() Jill ~~~~~~~ That sounds like something I would enjoy (although I would prefer plain pecans or roasted pecans instead of candied pecans). I would jump at the opportunity to get one for lunch since you are stuck paying for meals anyway. However, I agree with you. This is not a blue plate special, IMO. MaryL |
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On 12/11/2013 12:25 PM, MaryL wrote:
> > > "jmcquown" wrote in message ... > > Among the Dataw lunch specials today: > > Blue Plate Special: > Pear and Blue Cheese Salad > > Candied Pecans, Cranberry, Blue Cheese Crumble, > Grape, Tomato, and Sliced Pears > Served Over Mixed Greens > > $9.50 > > It might be absolutely wonderful. I still don't think of this as a > [traditional] Blue Plate Special. ![]() > > Jill > > ~~~~~~~ > That sounds like something I would enjoy (although I would prefer plain > pecans or roasted pecans instead of candied pecans). I would jump at > the opportunity to get one for lunch since you are stuck paying for > meals anyway. However, I agree with you. This is not a blue plate > special, IMO. > > MaryL > Well, I dislike raw vegetables so I don't eat salad. But as someone who enjoys food I can still appreciate some folks like a good salad. ![]() I agree about the toasted or roasted pecans rather than candied. To me, candied pecans are a snack, not something that belongs on a salad. Jill |
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On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 12:30:49 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote: > I agree about the toasted or roasted pecans rather than candied. To me, > candied pecans are a snack, not something that belongs on a salad. Different strokes. I think they are a real treat on a salad with pears and blue cheese (Cambozola for me). After determining that the pears are fresh, not canned - the item I'd tell them to leave off that salad is tomato. It is just plain wrong. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On 2013-12-11 3:02 PM, sf wrote:
> Different strokes. I think they are a real treat on a salad with > pears and blue cheese (Cambozola for me). After determining that the > pears are fresh, not canned - the item I'd tell them to leave off that > salad is tomato. It is just plain wrong. > They may be more for colour. I confess to liking canned pears..... but not in a salad. I love the combination of (fresh) pear and blue cheese. It is one of the world's great flavour combinations. I hear that nuts are supposed to be good with blue cheese too, but I don't eat nuts. |
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On 12/11/2013 3:02 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 12:30:49 -0500, jmcquown > > wrote: > >> I agree about the toasted or roasted pecans rather than candied. To me, >> candied pecans are a snack, not something that belongs on a salad. > > Different strokes. I think they are a real treat on a salad with > pears and blue cheese (Cambozola for me). After determining that the > pears are fresh, not canned - the item I'd tell them to leave off that > salad is tomato. It is just plain wrong. > Agreed. |
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