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Yesterday, I saw a fairly famous Canadian 'chef' on the tube. He was making french toast. He put a real spin on the dish. The maple syrup sauce looked outstanding et. Wonderful stuff. He owns a few 'higher end' restaurants. But to watch him, he looked so incompetent. He had no speed. He wasted movements.
I mean he wasn't incompetent, but he lacked the speed to work in a restaurant kitchen. I worked as a pro for a few years. Then I started an apprenticeship. At a 'higher end' Toronto hotel. What the head chef did to all new recruits was to put them in the coffee shop to see if they'd break or not.. In the coffee shop, you were in the shit every bloody minute. I passed. Then he put me on lunch banquets. Me, and my partner were in the shit every bloody minute. 6 or 7 lunch banquets every day; small banquets, but each of them with different items, and not much time to get it done. All within a few minutes of each other. Maybe at some very high end hotels/restaurants you can get away with being slow. But not usually. Speed is of the essence. Skill of course counts. You can't get away with wasting your movements. One of the apprentices at the above mentioned hotel, was put in the downstairs coffee shop. On his own. He drove a truck before starting as an apprentice. It was pathetic. He called up on the intercom for help, but the sous chef basically told him to shove it. He begged for help to no avail. No way that help was coming. I mean the poor guy didn't know much about pro cooking. He got canned eventually. |
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On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 14:07:03 -0800 (PST), A Moose in Love
> wrote: > Yesterday, I saw a fairly famous Canadian 'chef' on the tube. He was making french toast. He put a real spin on the dish. The maple syrup sauce looked outstanding et. Wonderful stuff. He owns a few 'higher end' restaurants. But to watch him, he looked so incompetent. He had no speed. He wasted movements. > I mean he wasn't incompetent, but he lacked the speed to work in a restaurant kitchen. So, is he a television chef or a restaurant chef? Remember that not everyone watching TV has worked in a kitchen like you have and he's slowing down for the sake of the viewers - they are his customers during the show and he has a certain amount of time he needs to fill up. He could be wasting motions for two reasons - it's not his kitchen, so it's not laid out the way he cooks and maybe he's not comfortable being in front of a camera because he has to supply a narrative while he's cooking. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 5:29:59 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 14:07:03 -0800 (PST), A Moose in Love > > > wrote: > > > > > Yesterday, I saw a fairly famous Canadian 'chef' on the tube. He was making french toast. He put a real spin on the dish. The maple syrup sauce looked outstanding et. Wonderful stuff. He owns a few 'higher end' restaurants. But to watch him, he looked so incompetent. He had no speed. He wasted movements. > > > I mean he wasn't incompetent, but he lacked the speed to work in a restaurant kitchen. > > > > So, is he a television chef or a restaurant chef? Remember that not > > everyone watching TV has worked in a kitchen like you have and he's > > slowing down for the sake of the viewers - they are his customers > > during the show and he has a certain amount of time he needs to fill > > up. He could be wasting motions for two reasons - it's not his > > kitchen, so it's not laid out the way he cooks and maybe he's not > > comfortable being in front of a camera because he has to supply a > > narrative while he's cooking. > I'm not saying the guy was incompetent. His french toast really impressed me. It was a cut above. I wish I would have written the recipe down. He just seemed kind of awkward. But then, I tend to over criticize sometimes. But I also admit that he had a great french toast recipe. |
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![]() "A Moose in Love" > wrote in message ... Yesterday, I saw a fairly famous Canadian 'chef' on the tube. He was making french toast. He put a real spin on the dish. The maple syrup sauce looked outstanding et. Wonderful stuff. He owns a few 'higher end' restaurants. But to watch him, he looked so incompetent. He had no speed. He wasted movements. I mean he wasn't incompetent, but he lacked the speed to work in a restaurant kitchen. I worked as a pro for a few years. Then I started an apprenticeship. At a 'higher end' Toronto hotel. What the head chef did to all new recruits was to put them in the coffee shop to see if they'd break or not. In the coffee shop, you were in the shit every bloody minute. I passed. Then he put me on lunch banquets. Me, and my partner were in the shit every bloody minute. 6 or 7 lunch banquets every day; small banquets, but each of them with different items, and not much time to get it done. All within a few minutes of each other. Maybe at some very high end hotels/restaurants you can get away with being slow. But not usually. Speed is of the essence. Skill of course counts. You can't get away with wasting your movements. One of the apprentices at the above mentioned hotel, was put in the downstairs coffee shop. On his own. He drove a truck before starting as an apprentice. It was pathetic. He called up on the intercom for help, but the sous chef basically told him to shove it. He begged for help to no avail. No way that help was coming. I mean the poor guy didn't know much about pro cooking. He got canned eventually. I didn't see the show but it's possible that he intentionally slowed down what he was doing so the viewers could get a better blow by blow lest they want to recreate what he was doing. I put some maple extract in my French toast casserole to amp up the flavor. |
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![]() "sf" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 14:07:03 -0800 (PST), A Moose in Love > > wrote: > >> Yesterday, I saw a fairly famous Canadian 'chef' on the tube. He was >> making french toast. He put a real spin on the dish. The maple syrup >> sauce looked outstanding et. Wonderful stuff. He owns a few 'higher >> end' restaurants. But to watch him, he looked so incompetent. He had no >> speed. He wasted movements. >> I mean he wasn't incompetent, but he lacked the speed to work in a >> restaurant kitchen. > > So, is he a television chef or a restaurant chef? Remember that not > everyone watching TV has worked in a kitchen like you have and he's > slowing down for the sake of the viewers - they are his customers > during the show and he has a certain amount of time he needs to fill > up. He could be wasting motions for two reasons - it's not his > kitchen, so it's not laid out the way he cooks and maybe he's not > comfortable being in front of a camera because he has to supply a > narrative while he's cooking. Oh yes, the old cooking in a different kitchen! This is what I went through when my MIL first became ill. The kitchen in that house was terribly small. Most of the little counter there was, was taken up by a coffee pot, basket o'baked goods and a dish rack. There was no dishwasher. The kitchen table was actually a glass topped patio table (came with the house) that was kept covered with a plastic tablecloth. So it wasn't an ideal surface for all kitchen tasks but could be used for some. One day I decided to make ravioli. Lots of ravioli, because extended family was coming over plus I always made extra of whatever it was for the freezer. Got the dough all ready to roll out and... Where was the rolling pin? MIL told me where *she* kept it. The problem? She could no longer cook. She had assorted relatives using the kitchen as well as caregivers and they would put things back in a different spot each time. I looked and looked and reached a level of panic as dinner time grew near. I do know how to use other things as a rolling pin, but could find nothing suitable in the kitchen. No bottle or even a glass that would work. In fact they had only one glass that was made of glass. Very thin glass. It was etched and held perhaps 4 oz. The other drinking glasses were textured plastic and tapered. So no good for rolling stuff. And going out to buy another wasn't an option with the closest store being K Mart (and not a lot else in the area) and my knowing that the chances of them having any rolling pin were slim, much less a good one. Plus I had no vehicle at that moment. Eventually I found the blasted thing. Part of my problem was at that point in time I had never seen a pin such as she had. But I have since seen them on TV. They are the skinny, wooden kind with no handles. The kind Italian chefs often use. My mom had a big wooden one and I have an even bigger marble one. Ours have handles. Although for some reason my mom's only had one handle and she never bothered to get a new one. I think I even gifted her with one at some point because the missing handle bugged me. But she must have gotten rid of the one I gave her because I never saw it after she opened the package. Things got worse after MIL moved to the new house. By then people seemed to feel free to steal from her. Seemed each time I visited, I had to go buy a sharp knife, tape, seasonings, bag clips, plastic bags, foil and the like. And they couldn't have been merely being used up because we were there every three weeks at least. Someone was taking these things home. I even saw people do this. Would say, "She doesn't need this!" And then take it! She never stopped them so as I could see. Or maybe at some point she tried and realized it was futile because they would just do it anyway. Or maybe, being the kind soul that she is, she felt that they must need it more than she did and just let them take it. I even tried to stop them. Would say, "I bought that and *I* need it." They would then reply, "Oh, but you're leaving tomorrow.", shrug and still try to take it. Then I would persist, "Yes, but chances are, I will need it next time I come back and I don't want to have to buy another." Then they would put it back in front of me. But it would still be gone when I came back. Sometimes I think they waited till I went into the bathroom or to the store or something and just took it. In retrospect, I should have just made up a kit of things to pack with me each time I went. Like I did when I had to cook at my mom's house, knowing that her seasonings (if she had them) were not fresh or the knives were often not sharp enough to suit me. I guess I got this idea from watching some of the cooking shows where chefs traveled with such things. Didn't cross my mind to do so before. |
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![]() "A Moose in Love" > wrote in message ... I'm not saying the guy was incompetent. His french toast really impressed me. It was a cut above. I wish I would have written the recipe down. He just seemed kind of awkward. But then, I tend to over criticize sometimes. But I also admit that he had a great french toast recipe. --- Could be that he was uncomfortable demonstrating to others or the food being made wasn't his idea. I don't usually have problems with public speaking. But as a high school Decca student, I was required to go to a community college and give a speech to a class about giving a speech. I was not allowed to write the speech but had to read word for word from something someone else had written out onto some transparencies that I had to present on an overhead projector. The whole thing was very dry and boring and exactly the opposite of what you'd want to do to give a good speech. I hated doing it and the teacher even commented that I came across as awkward. My normal style would have been to put in some smart assed comments in there here and there, giving my opinion of what I thought of what I was reading but I was not allowed to say even one extra word. Only what was written there. To this day I am uncertain as to why I had to do this. It was a group project. But the group determined that I had to do the speaking because I don't get nervous speaking like that. |
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