Julie Bove wrote:
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> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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>> I slice those 12" pizzas into sixths, they're too small to slice into
>> eighths without making a mess. Those 12" pies make a light meal for
>> two adults, half a pie each. Next you bake one notice it shinks from
>> ~12" diameter to ~10" diameter... it suffices for a light lunch but I
>> don't consider half that pie on it's own a main meal. Were I to eat
>> at a pizzaria I wouldn't consider two slices from their large pie
>> (18") a main meal... four people would have a couple slices each as an
>> appetizer while waiting for their entree.
>>
>> Why do I get the feeling that yoose small eaters are chonically ill
>> and the most physical work you do is operate the remote while lying on
>> the couch 24/7. Now that I'm retired most days I do as much or
>> more physical work than I did on my job, and my job was very
>> physically demanding.
>
> You're a *male*. I think in general, males and females have differing
> constitutions when it comes to food. But not always.
>
> I had a male friend who was thin. Was, until he got a job where he sat on
> his butt all day and then he told me he was getting what he called
> "secretary spread". No, he was not a secretary. But apparently the
> constant sitting and lack of activity caused excess weight to build up only
> in his butt area and not only did his pants no longer fit but he found that
> he could no longer buy off the rack. He had to go up a size and have them
> tailored. He still wasn't fat by any means but he did learn that he could
> no longer eat whatever he wanted and that in order to lose weight and
> maintain that weight loss, he had to cut back on the food.
>
> Another thing that was somewhat atypical for my friend was that his mom had
> 4 boys plus a lot of miscarriages. She used to joke that she considered my
> friend to be her "girl" and in some ways treated him as such. No, she
> didn't dress him in feminine clothing. But he was the one who always went
> shopping with her and she took him out to lunch at fancy places like the
> Azalea Room at Frederick and Nelson's or luncheon fashion shows at
> Nordstrom. In other words, places that catered mainly to ladies and served
> the type of foods that would appeal to them. So he learned to like those
> sorts of foods. Chicken salad, finger sandwiches, small portions of lean
> meat, cottage cheese and fruit.
>
> Yes, most likely my friend was also ***. I have no way of knowing for sure
> because he often went out of his way to say that he wasn't (which to me was
> a sign that he was, but there were many other signs) but he is no longer
> with us so... But that's beside the point. Normally he ate what would be
> typical for a woman to eat. I can remember him once telling me that he felt
> hungry. And he had just eaten lunch. So he told himself... I just ate a
> tomato the size of a baseball, stuffed with tuna salad and a roll on the
> side. That's plenty of food.
>
> Now what kind of response do you think I would get if I presented my husband
> with such a meal? Oh and I have! Have given the same to my dad who was a
> bit more polite about it but... After they ate it, both then said, "Now
> where is the meal?" Or something to that extent.
>
> Please do not think that I am implying in any way that my friend ate like
> this because he might have been ***. I feel that my writing was coming off
> that way. I do have another male friend(thankfully still alive) who used to
> be very tiny both in stature and bone structure. When we went places
> together, he made me feel like a giant. He is from CA. And he is addicted
> to my chocolate haystacks. I can't tell you how many times he paid me to
> make a pound or two or three of those for him to take home to his family.
> And each and every time, he would sheepishly tell me that the candy never
> made it onto the plane. He either ate it all before he got to the airport
> or occasionally *at* the airport! And it wasn't just candy that he ate like
> that. He ate all foods in HUGE proportions like that and had been to the
> Dr. and he was told that it was just his metabolism. Now he is in his 50's
> and has finally put on enough weight to where he is pretty much what would
> be considered normal in girth, but of course still short.
>
> Still another friend who was a little taller than the one mentioned above
> but about the same bone structure. He tried all sorts of things to put on
> my muscle to look beefier to no avail. And he ate like a HORSE! We would
> go out for breakfast and he would generally order the largest thing on the
> menu plus a side of bacon or sausage and an English muffin plus several
> large glasses of orange juice. And two hours later he'd be ready for a
> snack.
>
> Still another friend (the one I mentioned in another post who went to Italy
> and squatted in a house in England) who was 6'4" and skinny as a rail. He'd
> buy a dozen donuts on the way home from work so we could have them for
> breakfast but none would ever make it home. I lived with him for a while.
> When I cooked, I cooked the main dish for 4 and always had tons of sides.
> That guy could EAT!
>
> These men are all to the extreme. I would think that most men do not eat
> like this. Then there is my husband who can at times pack away more food
> than anyone I have *ever* seen. And it is catching up with him. He is not
> thin.
>
> Of course I have also known a few women over the years who ate like horses.
> Some were really big women and a few were not. But they're not typical
> either.
>
> Yes, in general men are taller and more muscular than women are. I'm sure
> that has something to do with it. But there is something else too. Men can
> just get away with eating more!
>
> I also think that a lot of women go through something around their teen
> years to perhaps their 20's or maybe even their 30's where they have to
> convince themselves to eat less. Their stomach might want to eat more or
> they might want to eat something more fattening but they know that if they
> do, they will put on weight. That commercial on TV where the man and the
> woman go on the same diet and the guy loses where the woman does not is
> generally true! My parents went on diets all the time. The weight would
> fall off of my dad easily and my mom would be lucky to have lost 2 pounds.
> Exercise seems to go the same way. I know countless men who can easily lose
> 10 pounds just by upping their exercise a little bit. But women? They
> might have to do an hour or more of strenuous exercise on top of what they
> were already doing just to see the scale budge by a couple of pounds.
>
> And when you begin to cut back on your food like that and change the types
> of foods that you eat, after a while, you become accustomed to it. All of a
> sudden a big greasy pizza or a huge, gloppy burger looks rather disgusting
> and you realize you would prefer to eat a salad or a small piece of meat and
> some vegetables.
>
> I have also read countless magazine articles where they interviewed single
> guys to find out what they were looking for in a woman. Many of those guys
> said that they did not want a woman who drank Diet Coke or ordered a salad
> when they went out to eat. They wanted the gal who got the beer and the big
> greasy burger. But... They also wanted the thin gal. And those things
> usually do not go hand in hand.
>
> I had lost 30 pounds back in the 80's. I looked good! I turned down gifts
> of food and offers to go out to eat at places where I could not get food
> that fit the parameters of my diet, which at the time was pretty much Dean
> Ornish. Vegetarian, almost vegan and extreme low fat. Salad bars were fine.
> Pizza was not.
>
> Then I met my husband. I managed to maintain the weight loss for a very
> long time, by bringing food to his house. And he ate it for a while. But
> then there was the spinach salad incident. We had gone out to eat at some
> really fancy place. I can't even remember what city it was but probably 2
> hours away from here. He was served a spinach salad prior to his meal and
> he raved about it being sooo good that the waitress brought him another one!
> Realizing that he liked spinach salad, I armed myself with all of the
> ingredients and made that for him for dinner one night. In a very large
> mixing bowl. Just the salad. Nothing else. Because to me, that was the
> ideal meal. Well...
>
> He ate that salad for probably 20-30 minutes and barely made a dent in it.
> Then he chucked it in the fridge and sent out for pizza. And he never did
> finish the salad although he did eat some of it for the next couple of days
> but since it had honey mustard dressing on it, it did get a tad icky.
>
> And eventually I caved in and began eating the same things he was eating.
> Pizza. Sandwiches with not a reasonable amount of cheese but a huge slab!
> Took me the better part of a year to lose those 30 pounds but they seemed to
> fly back on very quickly. And yet, he could eat this sort of diet and be a
> size Medium. He was in his 20's then. I think the tendency to put on
> weight strikes most of us as we age. It just seems to hit a lot of women
> harder than it seems to for a lot of men.

holy cow

this one's got to get in line behind the denunciation of that North Korean
dude, though