I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to bring a dozen
breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45. Our
cupboards are rather low at the moment because I have been trying to use
up what we have on hand to make way for Christmas cooking. I don't have
any eggs or breakfast meat on hand.

I do not want to go to the store. My first thought was to pick up a big
box of doughnut holes on the way to school in the morning, but I don't
want to bring in sweets. There will already be plenty of pastries
brought in.

So, I am making mini peanut butter and jelly sandwiches -- PB & J cut
into triangles. We have a peanut allergy in the chorus, so I am also
making cheese biscuits. I thought about pinwheel sandwiches or mini
cheese quesadillas.

Ta-da! Not exciting, but it will serve.

Tara

WTF is wrong with the standard of education in this country? My parents both
left school at the age of 14 and knew when to use the verbs "to bring" and
"to take".

>I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to TAKE a dozen
> breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45. Our
> cupboards are rather low at the moment because I have been trying to use
> up what we have on hand to make way for Christmas cooking. I don't have
> any eggs or breakfast meat on hand.
>
> I do not want to go to the store. My first thought was to pick up a big
> box of doughnut holes on the way to school in the morning, but I don't
> want to TAKE sweets. There will be plenty of pastries THERE already.
>

WTF is wrong with the standard of education in this country? My parents both
left school at the age of 14 and knew when to use the verbs "to bring" and
"to take".

>I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to TAKE a dozen
> breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45. Our
> cupboards are rather low at the moment because I have been trying to use
> up what we have on hand to make way for Christmas cooking. I don't have
> any eggs or breakfast meat on hand.
>
> I do not want to go to the store. My first thought was to pick up a big
> box of doughnut holes on the way to school in the morning, but I don't
> want to TAKE sweets. There will be plenty of pastries THERE already.
>

WTF is wrong with education in this country when people don't know the
difference between the verbs "to bring" and "to take"!

>I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to TAKE a dozen
> breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45. Our
> cupboards are rather low at the moment because I have been trying to use
> up what we have on hand to make way for Christmas cooking. I don't have
> any eggs or breakfast meat on hand.
>
> I do not want to go to the store. My first thought was to pick up a big
> box of doughnut holes on the way to school in the morning, but I don't
> want to TAKE sweets. There will be plenty of pastries
> THERE already.
>

WTF is wrong with education in this country when people don't know the
difference between the verbs "to bring" and "to take"!

>I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to TAKE a dozen
> breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45. Our
> cupboards are rather low at the moment because I have been trying to use
> up what we have on hand to make way for Christmas cooking. I don't have
> any eggs or breakfast meat on hand.
>
> I do not want to go to the store. My first thought was to pick up a big
> box of doughnut holes on the way to school in the morning, but I don't
> want to TAKE sweets. There will be plenty of pastries
> THERE already.
>

On 12/18/2013 7:37 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> WTF is wrong with people who have to post the same silly
> flame 4 times in a row as if we didn't hear them the first time?
>
> -sw


They haven't chased your useless self off yet.

Tara wrote:
> I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to bring a dozen
> breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45.
> Our cupboards are rather low at the moment because I have been trying
> to use up what we have on hand to make way for Christmas cooking. I
> don't have any eggs or breakfast meat on hand.
>
> I do not want to go to the store. My first thought was to pick up a
> big box of doughnut holes on the way to school in the morning, but I
> don't want to bring in sweets. There will already be plenty of
> pastries brought in.
>
> So, I am making mini peanut butter and jelly sandwiches -- PB & J cut
> into triangles. We have a peanut allergy in the chorus, so I am also
> making cheese biscuits. I thought about pinwheel sandwiches or mini
> cheese quesadillas.
>
> Ta-da! Not exciting, but it will serve.
>
> Tara

You have to find out how severe the peanut allergies are. Some children
are so allergic that you can't bring in anything with peanuts on the off
chance that they'll have even minor contact with it somehow. My wife's
school (grades 5 through 8) manages this by the class, e.g., if someone
in the class has a peanut allergy, then no one in that class brings in
anything with peanuts for any group activity like the one you're
describing. One child with an even more severe allergy can mean that no
one in the class can bring in peanuts in any form, period, while a
milder allergy might mean it's OK to bring in peanuts as long as
everything is clearly identified - that's the sort of thing where a
child might have only a mild allergy.

Good to ask about this sort of thing - it's probably something they sent
home a letter/email about in September.

A pain, I know, but those are the facts on the ground these days.

-S-

"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
> Tara wrote:
>> I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to bring a dozen
>> breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45.
>> Our cupboards are rather low at the moment because I have been trying
>> to use up what we have on hand to make way for Christmas cooking. I
>> don't have any eggs or breakfast meat on hand.
>>
>> I do not want to go to the store. My first thought was to pick up a
>> big box of doughnut holes on the way to school in the morning, but I
>> don't want to bring in sweets. There will already be plenty of
>> pastries brought in.
>>
>> So, I am making mini peanut butter and jelly sandwiches -- PB & J cut
>> into triangles. We have a peanut allergy in the chorus, so I am also
>> making cheese biscuits. I thought about pinwheel sandwiches or mini
>> cheese quesadillas.
>>
>> Ta-da! Not exciting, but it will serve.
>>
>> Tara
>
> You have to find out how severe the peanut allergies are. Some children
> are so allergic that you can't bring in anything with peanuts on the off
> chance that they'll have even minor contact with it somehow. My wife's
> school (grades 5 through 8) manages this by the class, e.g., if someone in
> the class has a peanut allergy, then no one in that class brings in
> anything with peanuts for any group activity like the one you're
> describing. One child with an even more severe allergy can mean that no
> one in the class can bring in peanuts in any form, period, while a milder
> allergy might mean it's OK to bring in peanuts as long as everything is
> clearly identified - that's the sort of thing where a child might have
> only a mild allergy.
>
> Good to ask about this sort of thing - it's probably something they sent
> home a letter/email about in September.
>
> A pain, I know, but those are the facts on the ground these days.

I've read of that happening here too. Some parents complain but they
wouldn't do so if it were their child with an allergy. Those allergies
can kill


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"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
> Tara wrote:
>> I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to bring a dozen
>> breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45.
>> Our cupboards are rather low at the moment because I have been trying
>> to use up what we have on hand to make way for Christmas cooking. I
>> don't have any eggs or breakfast meat on hand.
>>
>> I do not want to go to the store. My first thought was to pick up a
>> big box of doughnut holes on the way to school in the morning, but I
>> don't want to bring in sweets. There will already be plenty of
>> pastries brought in.
>>
>> So, I am making mini peanut butter and jelly sandwiches -- PB & J cut
>> into triangles. We have a peanut allergy in the chorus, so I am also
>> making cheese biscuits. I thought about pinwheel sandwiches or mini
>> cheese quesadillas.
>>
>> Ta-da! Not exciting, but it will serve.
>>
>> Tara
>
> You have to find out how severe the peanut allergies are. Some children
> are so allergic that you can't bring in anything with peanuts on the off
> chance that they'll have even minor contact with it somehow. My wife's
> school (grades 5 through 8) manages this by the class, e.g., if someone in
> the class has a peanut allergy, then no one in that class brings in
> anything with peanuts for any group activity like the one you're
> describing. One child with an even more severe allergy can mean that no
> one in the class can bring in peanuts in any form, period, while a milder
> allergy might mean it's OK to bring in peanuts as long as everything is
> clearly identified - that's the sort of thing where a child might have
> only a mild allergy.
>
> Good to ask about this sort of thing - it's probably something they sent
> home a letter/email about in September.
>
> A pain, I know, but those are the facts on the ground these days.
>
> -S-

Most people with a peanut allergy wouldn't even touch food that was on a
table with peanut containing products. Too much chance of cross
contamination.

Ophelia wrote:
> "Steve Freides" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Tara wrote:
>>> I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to bring a dozen
>>> breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45.
>>> Our cupboards are rather low at the moment because I have been
>>> trying to use up what we have on hand to make way for Christmas
>>> cooking. I don't have any eggs or breakfast meat on hand.
>>>
>>> I do not want to go to the store. My first thought was to pick up a
>>> big box of doughnut holes on the way to school in the morning, but I
>>> don't want to bring in sweets. There will already be plenty of
>>> pastries brought in.
>>>
>>> So, I am making mini peanut butter and jelly sandwiches -- PB & J
>>> cut into triangles. We have a peanut allergy in the chorus, so I
>>> am also making cheese biscuits. I thought about pinwheel
>>> sandwiches or mini cheese quesadillas.
>>>
>>> Ta-da! Not exciting, but it will serve.
>>>
>>> Tara
>>
>> You have to find out how severe the peanut allergies are. Some
>> children are so allergic that you can't bring in anything with
>> peanuts on the off chance that they'll have even minor contact with
>> it somehow. My wife's school (grades 5 through 8) manages this by
>> the class, e.g., if someone in the class has a peanut allergy, then
>> no one in that class brings in anything with peanuts for any group
>> activity like the one you're describing. One child with an even
>> more severe allergy can mean that no one in the class can bring in
>> peanuts in any form, period, while a milder allergy might mean it's
>> OK to bring in peanuts as long as everything is clearly identified -
>> that's the sort of thing where a child might have only a mild
>> allergy. Good to ask about this sort of thing - it's probably
>> something they
>> sent home a letter/email about in September.
>>
>> A pain, I know, but those are the facts on the ground these days.
>
> I've read of that happening here too. Some parents complain but they
> wouldn't do so if it were their child with an allergy. Those
> allergies can kill

True, unfortunately. But there are all sorts of degrees of allergy.
E.g., I play for one of my wife's classes (we're both music/theater
people and it's a musical theater thing where I play piano) and one
child has a nut allergy of some sort but it's not life-threatening,
apparently, so everyone just tries to bring in things he can eat, but if
someone messes up, we don't have to clear the room, he just has to be
told not to eat that particular item. He doesn't require that the
ingredients list says it wasn't made in a facility that doesn't process
nuts, which some people do require.

As I think I've mentioned here before, I know someone whose child is so
dairy-allergic that if he has cream in his coffee in the morning and
kisses his child on the cheek at 5 PM, the child has a reaction. There
but for the grace ...

-S-

"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
> Ophelia wrote:
>> "Steve Freides" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Tara wrote:
>>>> I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to bring a dozen
>>>> breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45.
>>>> Our cupboards are rather low at the moment because I have been
>>>> trying to use up what we have on hand to make way for Christmas
>>>> cooking. I don't have any eggs or breakfast meat on hand.
>>>>
>>>> I do not want to go to the store. My first thought was to pick up a
>>>> big box of doughnut holes on the way to school in the morning, but I
>>>> don't want to bring in sweets. There will already be plenty of
>>>> pastries brought in.
>>>>
>>>> So, I am making mini peanut butter and jelly sandwiches -- PB & J
>>>> cut into triangles. We have a peanut allergy in the chorus, so I
>>>> am also making cheese biscuits. I thought about pinwheel
>>>> sandwiches or mini cheese quesadillas.
>>>>
>>>> Ta-da! Not exciting, but it will serve.
>>>>
>>>> Tara
>>>
>>> You have to find out how severe the peanut allergies are. Some
>>> children are so allergic that you can't bring in anything with
>>> peanuts on the off chance that they'll have even minor contact with
>>> it somehow. My wife's school (grades 5 through 8) manages this by
>>> the class, e.g., if someone in the class has a peanut allergy, then
>>> no one in that class brings in anything with peanuts for any group
>>> activity like the one you're describing. One child with an even
>>> more severe allergy can mean that no one in the class can bring in
>>> peanuts in any form, period, while a milder allergy might mean it's
>>> OK to bring in peanuts as long as everything is clearly identified -
>>> that's the sort of thing where a child might have only a mild
>>> allergy. Good to ask about this sort of thing - it's probably something
>>> they
>>> sent home a letter/email about in September.
>>>
>>> A pain, I know, but those are the facts on the ground these days.
>>
>> I've read of that happening here too. Some parents complain but they
>> wouldn't do so if it were their child with an allergy. Those
>> allergies can kill
>
> True, unfortunately. But there are all sorts of degrees of allergy. E.g.,
> I play for one of my wife's classes (we're both music/theater people and
> it's a musical theater thing where I play piano) and one child has a nut
> allergy of some sort but it's not life-threatening, apparently, so
> everyone just tries to bring in things he can eat, but if someone messes
> up, we don't have to clear the room, he just has to be told not to eat
> that particular item. He doesn't require that the ingredients list says
> it wasn't made in a facility that doesn't process nuts, which some people
> do require.
>
> As I think I've mentioned here before, I know someone whose child is so
> dairy-allergic that if he has cream in his coffee in the morning and
> kisses his child on the cheek at 5 PM, the child has a reaction. There
> but for the grace ...

Yes, indeed
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On 12/18/2013 5:03 PM, Tara wrote:
> I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to bring a dozen
> breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45. Our
> cupboards are rather low at the moment because I have been trying to use
> up what we have on hand to make way for Christmas cooking. I don't have
> any eggs or breakfast meat on hand.
>
> I do not want to go to the store. My first thought was to pick up a big
> box of doughnut holes on the way to school in the morning, but I don't
> want to bring in sweets. There will already be plenty of pastries
> brought in.
>
> So, I am making mini peanut butter and jelly sandwiches -- PB & J cut
> into triangles. We have a peanut allergy in the chorus, so I am also
> making cheese biscuits. I thought about pinwheel sandwiches or mini
> cheese quesadillas.
>
> Ta-da! Not exciting, but it will serve.

That's really creative and on such short notice.

Have fun at the party!

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/18/2013 5:03 PM, Tara wrote:
>> I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to bring a dozen
>> breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45. Our
>> cupboards are rather low at the moment because I have been trying to use
>> up what we have on hand to make way for Christmas cooking. I don't have
>> any eggs or breakfast meat on hand.
>>
>> I do not want to go to the store. My first thought was to pick up a big
>> box of doughnut holes on the way to school in the morning, but I don't
>> want to bring in sweets. There will already be plenty of pastries
>> brought in.
>>
>> So, I am making mini peanut butter and jelly sandwiches -- PB & J cut
>> into triangles. We have a peanut allergy in the chorus, so I am also
>> making cheese biscuits. I thought about pinwheel sandwiches or mini
>> cheese quesadillas.
>>
>> Ta-da! Not exciting, but it will serve.
>
> That's really creative and on such short notice.
>
> Have fun at the party!

Ahhh there you are I was wondering that I hadn't seen you for a while but
when I checked it was just a couple of days Is your husband ok?

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On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 6:14:47 PM UTC-8, georges wrote:

> WTF is wrong with the standard of education in this country? My parents both
> left school at the age of 14 and knew when to use the verbs "to bring" and
> "to take".
>
>
>
> >I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to TAKE a dozen
> > breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45.

Are you insane? Bring means to take along with you.

The OP's kids needed to bring food to the breakfast party, i.e. if they
showed up foodless, they would thwart the purpose of the party.

On 12/19/2013 11:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> That's really creative and on such short notice.

> Ahhh there you are I was wondering that I hadn't seen you for a while
> but when I checked it was just a couple of days Is your husband ok?
>

He's fine, thanks for asking.

Whatever I said yesterday, which wasn't much because I went
shopping and made cookie dough, disappeared into the ether.

Happens once in a while.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...

>> Ahhh there you are I was wondering that I hadn't seen you for a while
>> but when I checked it was just a couple of days Is your husband ok?
>>
>
> He's fine, thanks for asking.
>
> Whatever I said yesterday, which wasn't much because I went
> shopping and made cookie dough, disappeared into the ether.
>
> Happens once in a while.

Aye Good to know. It's just that when people have something going on,
and they are not here as usual ...

Ye ken? )

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On 12/19/2013 9:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Steve Freides" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>> "Steve Freides" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Tara wrote:
>>>>> I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to bring a dozen
>>>>> breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45.
>>>>> Our cupboards are rather low at the moment because I have been
>>>>> trying to use up what we have on hand to make way for Christmas
>>>>> cooking. I don't have any eggs or breakfast meat on hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not want to go to the store. My first thought was to pick up a
>>>>> big box of doughnut holes on the way to school in the morning, but I
>>>>> don't want to bring in sweets. There will already be plenty of
>>>>> pastries brought in.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I am making mini peanut butter and jelly sandwiches -- PB & J
>>>>> cut into triangles. We have a peanut allergy in the chorus, so I
>>>>> am also making cheese biscuits. I thought about pinwheel
>>>>> sandwiches or mini cheese quesadillas.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ta-da! Not exciting, but it will serve.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tara
>>>>
>>>> You have to find out how severe the peanut allergies are. Some
>>>> children are so allergic that you can't bring in anything with
>>>> peanuts on the off chance that they'll have even minor contact with
>>>> it somehow. My wife's school (grades 5 through 8) manages this by
>>>> the class, e.g., if someone in the class has a peanut allergy, then
>>>> no one in that class brings in anything with peanuts for any group
>>>> activity like the one you're describing. One child with an even
>>>> more severe allergy can mean that no one in the class can bring in
>>>> peanuts in any form, period, while a milder allergy might mean it's
>>>> OK to bring in peanuts as long as everything is clearly identified -
>>>> that's the sort of thing where a child might have only a mild
>>>> allergy. Good to ask about this sort of thing - it's probably
>>>> something they
>>>> sent home a letter/email about in September.
>>>>
>>>> A pain, I know, but those are the facts on the ground these days.
>>>
>>> I've read of that happening here too. Some parents complain but they
>>> wouldn't do so if it were their child with an allergy. Those
>>> allergies can kill
>>
>> True, unfortunately. But there are all sorts of degrees of allergy.
>> E.g., I play for one of my wife's classes (we're both music/theater
>> people and it's a musical theater thing where I play piano) and one
>> child has a nut allergy of some sort but it's not life-threatening,
>> apparently, so everyone just tries to bring in things he can eat, but
>> if someone messes up, we don't have to clear the room, he just has to
>> be told not to eat that particular item. He doesn't require that the
>> ingredients list says it wasn't made in a facility that doesn't
>> process nuts, which some people do require.
>>
>> As I think I've mentioned here before, I know someone whose child is
>> so dairy-allergic that if he has cream in his coffee in the morning
>> and kisses his child on the cheek at 5 PM, the child has a reaction.
>> There but for the grace ...
>
> Yes, indeed

You're the master of the two word toss-off, dear...

> wrote in message
...

> The OP's kids needed to bring food to the breakfast party, i.e. if they
> showed up foodless, they would thwart the purpose of the party.

This 'take/bring thing' was a difficult one for me when I first came, but I
soon got used to it. This is the norm here and if he can't hack it then he
needs to go elsewhere. Up to newbies to fit in!

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On 12/19/2013 11:50 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> Whatever I said yesterday, which wasn't much because I went
>> shopping and made cookie dough, disappeared into the ether.
>>
>> Happens once in a while.
>
> Aye Good to know. It's just that when people have something going
> on, and they are not here as usual ...
>
> Ye ken? )

Capish!

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/19/2013 11:50 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>> Whatever I said yesterday, which wasn't much because I went
>>> shopping and made cookie dough, disappeared into the ether.
>>>
>>> Happens once in a while.
>>
>> Aye Good to know. It's just that when people have something going
>> on, and they are not here as usual ...
>>
>> Ye ken? )
>
> Capish!





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> wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 6:14:47 PM UTC-8, georges wrote:
>
>> WTF is wrong with the standard of education in this country? My parents
>> both
>> left school at the age of 14 and knew when to use the verbs "to bring"
>> and
>> "to take".
>>
>>
>>
>> >I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to TAKE a dozen
>> > breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45.
>
> Are you insane? Bring means to take along with you.
>
> The OP's kids needed to bring food to the breakfast party, i.e. if they
> showed up foodless, they would thwart the purpose of the party.
>
Actually, he's quite right. The verb "take" should have been used.
However, I noticed that it was posted around supper time. Perhaps he'd been
at the sauce.
Graham

On 12/18/2013 9:14 PM, georges wrote:
> WTF is wrong with the standard of education in this country? My parents both
> left school at the age of 14 and knew when to use the verbs "to bring" and
> "to take".
>
WTF is wrong with the grammar police top posting to usenet?

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/18/2013 9:14 PM, georges wrote:
>> WTF is wrong with the standard of education in this country? My parents
>> both
>> left school at the age of 14 and knew when to use the verbs "to bring"
>> and
>> "to take".
>>
> WTF is wrong with the grammar police top posting to usenet?

Never heard of him before anyway


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On 12/19/2013 5:37 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 12/18/2013 9:14 PM, georges wrote:
>>> WTF is wrong with the standard of education in this country? My
>>> parents both
>>> left school at the age of 14 and knew when to use the verbs "to
>>> bring" and
>>> "to take".
>>>
>> WTF is wrong with the grammar police top posting to usenet?
>
> Never heard of him before anyway
>
Of course not. It's a lame fly-by troll.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/19/2013 5:37 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 12/18/2013 9:14 PM, georges wrote:
>>>> WTF is wrong with the standard of education in this country? My
>>>> parents both
>>>> left school at the age of 14 and knew when to use the verbs "to
>>>> bring" and
>>>> "to take".
>>>>
>>> WTF is wrong with the grammar police top posting to usenet?
>>
>> Never heard of him before anyway
>>
> Of course not. It's a lame fly-by troll.

Ahhh! So, they stop by just to complain??? sheesh what sad lives.


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On 12/19/2013 5:41 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 12/19/2013 5:37 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 12/18/2013 9:14 PM, georges wrote:
>>>>> WTF is wrong with the standard of education in this country? My
>>>>> parents both
>>>>> left school at the age of 14 and knew when to use the verbs "to
>>>>> bring" and
>>>>> "to take".
>>>>>
>>>> WTF is wrong with the grammar police top posting to usenet?
>>>
>>> Never heard of him before anyway
>>>
>> Of course not. It's a lame fly-by troll.
>
> Ahhh! So, they stop by just to complain??? sheesh what sad lives.
>
>
Well, so far it has top-posted the same reply many times. That's a big
clue. I've already added it to my killfile but expect it to morph
fairly soon... if it's persistent.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/19/2013 5:41 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 12/19/2013 5:37 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 12/18/2013 9:14 PM, georges wrote:
>>>>>> WTF is wrong with the standard of education in this country? My
>>>>>> parents both
>>>>>> left school at the age of 14 and knew when to use the verbs "to
>>>>>> bring" and
>>>>>> "to take".
>>>>>>
>>>>> WTF is wrong with the grammar police top posting to usenet?
>>>>
>>>> Never heard of him before anyway
>>>>
>>> Of course not. It's a lame fly-by troll.
>>
>> Ahhh! So, they stop by just to complain??? sheesh what sad lives.
>>
>>
> Well, so far it has top-posted the same reply many times. That's a big
> clue. I've already added it to my killfile but expect it to morph fairly
> soon... if it's persistent.

Lucky us As if we don't have enough already.


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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:45:50 -0700, graham wrote:
>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 6:14:47 PM UTC-8, georges wrote:
>>>
>>>> WTF is wrong with the standard of education in this country? My parents
>>>> both
>>>> left school at the age of 14 and knew when to use the verbs "to bring"
>>>> and
>>>> "to take".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to TAKE a dozen
>>>> > breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45.
>>>
>>> Are you insane? Bring means to take along with you.
>>>
>>> The OP's kids needed to bring food to the breakfast party, i.e. if they
>>> showed up foodless, they would thwart the purpose of the party.
>>>
>> Actually, he's quite right.
>
> C'mon George/Graham. Don't start the sock puppeting. We have enough
> kooks already!

Nah you got that one wrong. I know Graham and have done so for years.

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On 12/19/2013 4:38 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> But what if she was posting from the school?


Enough pedo talk, you creep...

On 12/19/2013 4:42 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> We have enough
> kooks already!
>
> -sw


Yes you are.

"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
> Tara wrote:
>> I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to bring a dozen
>> breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45.
>> Our cupboards are rather low at the moment because I have been trying
>> to use up what we have on hand to make way for Christmas cooking. I
>> don't have any eggs or breakfast meat on hand.
>>
>> I do not want to go to the store. My first thought was to pick up a
>> big box of doughnut holes on the way to school in the morning, but I
>> don't want to bring in sweets. There will already be plenty of
>> pastries brought in.
>>
>> So, I am making mini peanut butter and jelly sandwiches -- PB & J cut
>> into triangles. We have a peanut allergy in the chorus, so I am also
>> making cheese biscuits. I thought about pinwheel sandwiches or mini
>> cheese quesadillas.
>>
>> Ta-da! Not exciting, but it will serve.
>>
>> Tara
>
> You have to find out how severe the peanut allergies are. Some children
> are so allergic that you can't bring in anything with peanuts on the off
> chance that they'll have even minor contact with it somehow. My wife's
> school (grades 5 through 8) manages this by the class, e.g., if someone in
> the class has a peanut allergy, then no one in that class brings in
> anything with peanuts for any group activity like the one you're
> describing. One child with an even more severe allergy can mean that no
> one in the class can bring in peanuts in any form, period, while a milder
> allergy might mean it's OK to bring in peanuts as long as everything is
> clearly identified - that's the sort of thing where a child might have
> only a mild allergy.
>
> Good to ask about this sort of thing - it's probably something they sent
> home a letter/email about in September.
>
> A pain, I know, but those are the facts on the ground these days.
>
> -S-

Where I am, they don't allow parents to bring anything that is homemade. It
has to be store bought.

Cheri

On 12/19/2013 7:37 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Steve Freides" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Tara wrote:
>>> I found out yesterday afternoon that my kids need to bring a dozen
>>> breakfast items each to a chorus breakfast party tomorrow at 7:45.
>>> Our cupboards are rather low at the moment because I have been trying
>>> to use up what we have on hand to make way for Christmas cooking. I
>>> don't have any eggs or breakfast meat on hand.
>>>
>>> I do not want to go to the store. My first thought was to pick up a
>>> big box of doughnut holes on the way to school in the morning, but I
>>> don't want to bring in sweets. There will already be plenty of
>>> pastries brought in.
>>>
>>> So, I am making mini peanut butter and jelly sandwiches -- PB & J cut
>>> into triangles. We have a peanut allergy in the chorus, so I am also
>>> making cheese biscuits. I thought about pinwheel sandwiches or mini
>>> cheese quesadillas.
>>>
>>> Ta-da! Not exciting, but it will serve.
>>>
>>> Tara
>>
>> You have to find out how severe the peanut allergies are. Some
>> children are so allergic that you can't bring in anything with peanuts
>> on the off chance that they'll have even minor contact with it
>> somehow. My wife's school (grades 5 through 8) manages this by the
>> class, e.g., if someone in the class has a peanut allergy, then no one
>> in that class brings in anything with peanuts for any group activity
>> like the one you're describing. One child with an even more severe
>> allergy can mean that no one in the class can bring in peanuts in any
>> form, period, while a milder allergy might mean it's OK to bring in
>> peanuts as long as everything is clearly identified - that's the sort
>> of thing where a child might have only a mild allergy.
>>
>> Good to ask about this sort of thing - it's probably something they
>> sent home a letter/email about in September.
>>
>> A pain, I know, but those are the facts on the ground these days.
>>
>> -S-
>
> Where I am, they don't allow parents to bring anything that is homemade.
> It has to be store bought.
>
> Cheri

Not that I know anything about this... but is store-bought so much better?

Jill

On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:14:47 PM UTC-5, georges wrote:
> WTF is wrong with the standard of education in this country? My parents both
>
> left school at the age of 14 and knew when to use the verbs "to bring" and
>
> "to take".
>
>



I gess they didn't wisht they all woulda went more to skool.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...

>> Where I am, they don't allow parents to bring anything that is homemade.
>> It has to be store bought.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Not that I know anything about this... but is store-bought so much better?
>
> Jill

No, it's not, but I guess the reasoning is that store bought has regulations
in it's preparation, as well as ingredients used etc. I think it's a shame.
I remember in the old days when moms were room mothers and brought homemade
party treats to school on birthdays etc., but no more...at least not here.

Cheri

On 12/19/2013 2:40 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/19/2013 7:37 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> Where I am, they don't allow parents to bring anything that is homemade.
>> It has to be store bought.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Not that I know anything about this... but is store-bought so much better?
>
> Jill
They do this for security reasons and so they can check for dangerous
substances. Since 9-11, nobody's taking any chances. A woman came into
my office with a plate of homemade treats. There's banana bread and iced
gingerbread bars and something called "cow plops" which is a non-baked,
peanut butter based concoction of rolled oats, coconut, and cocoa. I am
currently inspecting these homemade items for safety. It will take a
couple more hours before they're fully certified to take home.

On 12/19/2013 2:57 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:55:29 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 12/19/2013 2:40 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 12/19/2013 7:37 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> Where I am, they don't allow parents to bring anything that is homemade.
>>>> It has to be store bought.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Not that I know anything about this... but is store-bought so much better?
>>>
>>> Jill
>> They do this for security reasons and so they can check for dangerous
>> substances. Since 9-11, nobody's taking any chances. A woman came into
>> my office with a plate of homemade treats. There's banana bread and iced
>> gingerbread bars and something called "cow plops" which is a non-baked,
>> peanut butter based concoction of rolled oats, coconut, and cocoa. I am
>> currently inspecting these homemade items for safety. It will take a
>> couple more hours before they're fully certified to take home.
>
> The world has gone mad !!
>
I should clarify that my safety testing procedures consists of me
pigging out on the treats in question. I'm fairly certain that the lady
does not want me dead or means me any harm. If she does, she certainly
hides it well.

OTOH, things have certainly changed since I went to school and even from
the days that my oldest son was going to grade school. These days,
everybody's afraid of getting sued or blamed for something. School is
all about guidelines and rules and being fearful. The teachers have to
worry about the kid's allergies, feelings, and safety to a higher degree
than they ever have. Forget about Johnny not reading, they have to
consider Johnny coming to class with an assault rifle and blowing away
the faculty and the student body. As you say, the world has gone mad.

On 12/19/2013 5:32 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Then it must be Graham's evil, live-in twin.
>
> -sw

You looking for a date?

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> Where I am, they don't allow parents to bring anything that is homemade.
> It has to be store bought.

That's the general rule here too. They did make exceptions for me the one
year that I was the room parent who was in charge of the kids with the food
allergies. I did for the most part bring in store bought things but I did
have to make a few things like the egg free Royal icing the year that they
make sleighs out of graham crackers. My group had to use a chocolate chip
bar from Enjoy Life and our icing didn't work so well. But I did bring in
wrappers and labels from anything I used because the one peanut free girl
was so terrified of yet another trip to the hospital, fearing for her life.

Also note that it is next to impossible to find bakery goods that are safe
for people with peanut allergies unless you buy them from a dedicated
facility. We have a bakery here called Little Rae's that is peanut free and
their wares are available at more and more places now. Can also get online I
think but not sure if they are sold in other states.

Also in talking to parents of peanut allergic kids, most of them would push
not only for a peanut free school but a food free school and most would not
allow their kids to eat any food they did not personally provide, even if it
is in package. They fear that the person who brought the food it (took the
food in?) might have eaten peanuts then touched the package without washing
their hands. That was not the case with the people in our school and really
I think I was the most careful of the lot and Angela only has an
intolerance, not an allergy. But she will still get a weird nosebleed if
she ingests or a rash from contact so at least I can spare her that. I do
eat peanuts at home and even here at my computer but if she needs to use it,
I do wipe the keys down first.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...

> Not that I know anything about this... but is store-bought so much better?

You just don't know the kitchen safety in some homes and you can't guarantee
that the food is free of whatever allergen might be an issue for some kid.
Our school even took it a step further and wanted the foods individually
packaged. That helped prevent the kids from eating a lot of junk at once.
If wrapped, they could take some home.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>> Where I am, they don't allow parents to bring anything that is homemade.
>>> It has to be store bought.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Not that I know anything about this... but is store-bought so much
>> better?
>>
>> Jill
>
> No, it's not, but I guess the reasoning is that store bought has
> regulations in it's preparation, as well as ingredients used etc. I think
> it's a shame. I remember in the old days when moms were room mothers and
> brought homemade party treats to school on birthdays etc., but no
> more...at least not here.

We also did not get near the amount of treats that kids get nowadays. NY
was the worst! Angela seemed to bring a treat bag home at least weekly.
And here, despite what was said about the food there was always that one mom
who wasn't even supposed to be involved with the party who brought in home
baked stuff at the last minute. The teacher usually just sighed and told
her to pass them out. Particularly bad when the parent showed up at the end
of the party with frozen treats. The kids were all stuffed but the ice
cream was melting so it was eat it or lose it.

One year when I was in charge, I asked that no sweets be brought. The other
parents were happy about this. We had fruit, cheese and pretzels. No kid
complained. I also gave out treat bags with little toys in them.

Invariably our parties fell right after lunch. The kids were already full or
pretty full from lunch and I noticed that most of the party food was going
to waste. The kids played with it or took one bite and tossed it. But the
year that we had no sweets? Very little went to waste. So that was a good
thing.

Angela's school parties were usually an hour long and not only were treats
served but they were generally given out as prizes and/or used in the
various games that they played. I bought stuffed animals and rubber ducks
from the Oriental Trading company and I used those as prizes Sure it cost
me a little more than it would to give out a little candy bar but the kids
remembered these things and to this day I still have kids (now teens or
grownups) who stop by my house and tell me that they still have the little
whatever it was. I gave these out for Halloween too, many years.

When I was in school, for holidays, we might have played one or two quick
games. One person got a prize for each game. And then we were given a
cookie or cupcake. My mom made divinity the year that she did the party.
That didn't go over well except for with this one girl who sweet talked her
and got to take home all of the leftovers and there were many because most
kids wouldn't touch it. Heh.

And for birthdays? I don't remember all of the kids getting a treat. We
did usually sing the birthday song and in younger grades the birthday kid
got a paper crown. But I also think by the time I was in school, many of
the moms worked so they couldn't bring in a treat. I had a June birthday so
never had a school thing. But now they let the kids with the summer
birthdays pick their special day.