Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread? At
the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor belt?

On 28/12/2013 13:34, Gus wrote:
> Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread? At
> the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
> forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor belt?
Us Brits do love out crumpets! ;-))

On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:31:49 +0000, Broadback
> wrote:

> On 28/12/2013 13:34, Gus wrote:
> > Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread? At
> > the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
> > forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor belt?
> Us Brits do love out crumpets! ;-))

I love crumpets too (they are different from English muffins).
They're easy enough to make, but they're even easier to buy.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:31:49 +0000, Broadback
> > wrote:
>
>> On 28/12/2013 13:34, Gus wrote:
>> > Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread? At
>> > the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
>> > forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor
>> > belt?
>> Us Brits do love out crumpets! ;-))
>
> I love crumpets too (they are different from English muffins).
> They're easy enough to make, but they're even easier to buy.

I did wonder if it were crumpets he was seeing. I watched the series but
don't remember.

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On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 15:36:08 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:31:49 +0000, Broadback
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 28/12/2013 13:34, Gus wrote:
> >> > Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread? At
> >> > the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
> >> > forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor
> >> > belt?
> >> Us Brits do love out crumpets! ;-))
> >
> > I love crumpets too (they are different from English muffins).
> > They're easy enough to make, but they're even easier to buy.
>
> I did wonder if it were crumpets he was seeing. I watched the series but
> don't remember.

What series?

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 15:36:08 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:31:49 +0000, Broadback
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 28/12/2013 13:34, Gus wrote:
>> >> > Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread?
>> >> > At
>> >> > the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
>> >> > forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor
>> >> > belt?
>> >> Us Brits do love out crumpets! ;-))
>> >
>> > I love crumpets too (they are different from English muffins).
>> > They're easy enough to make, but they're even easier to buy.
>>
>> I did wonder if it were crumpets he was seeing. I watched the series
>> but
>> don't remember.
>
> What series?

Opinicus

"I've always wondered about English muffins. How "English" are they
really? In TV dramas like "Downton Abbey", "Duchess of Duke Street"
etc people are often eating something "at tea" called a "scone" that
looks suspiciously like what's called an "English muffin" in the US."


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On 2013-12-28 9:48 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:31:49 +0000, Broadback
> > wrote:
>
>> On 28/12/2013 13:34, Gus wrote:
>>> Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread? At
>>> the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
>>> forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor belt?
>> Us Brits do love out crumpets! ;-))
>
> I love crumpets too (they are different from English muffins).
> They're easy enough to make, but they're even easier to buy.
>


They are similar in many ways but different. I always used to like
crumpets but have been terribly disappointed with them for years.
Perhaps it is time to try making them.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2013-12-28 9:48 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:31:49 +0000, Broadback
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/12/2013 13:34, Gus wrote:
>>>> Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread? At
>>>> the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
>>>> forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor
>>>> belt?
>>> Us Brits do love out crumpets! ;-))
>>
>> I love crumpets too (they are different from English muffins).
>> They're easy enough to make, but they're even easier to buy.
>>
>
>
> They are similar in many ways but different. I always used to like
> crumpets but have been terribly disappointed with them for years. Perhaps
> it is time to try making them.

easy peasy
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On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 22:03:12 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 2013-12-28 9:48 AM, sf wrote:
> >> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:31:49 +0000, Broadback
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 28/12/2013 13:34, Gus wrote:
> >>>> Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread? At
> >>>> the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
> >>>> forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor
> >>>> belt?
> >>> Us Brits do love out crumpets! ;-))
> >>
> >> I love crumpets too (they are different from English muffins).
> >> They're easy enough to make, but they're even easier to buy.
> >>
> >
> >
> > They are similar in many ways but different. I always used to like
> > crumpets but have been terribly disappointed with them for years. Perhaps
> > it is time to try making them.
>
> easy peasy

You should include a recipe with that.

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On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:31:49 +0000, Broadback
> wrote:

>On 28/12/2013 13:34, Gus wrote:
>> Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread? At
>> the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
>> forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor belt?
>Us Brits do love out crumpets! ;-))

Especially with so many tarts out there!

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:31:49 +0000, Broadback
> > wrote:
>
>>On 28/12/2013 13:34, Gus wrote:
>>> Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread? At
>>> the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
>>> forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor belt?
>>Us Brits do love out crumpets! ;-))
>
> Especially with so many tarts out there!

Ooh you cheeky monkey!!!

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On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 21:30:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:31:49 +0000, Broadback
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On 28/12/2013 13:34, Gus wrote:
>>>> Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread? At
>>>> the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
>>>> forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor belt?
>>>Us Brits do love out crumpets! ;-))
>>
>> Especially with so many tarts out there!
>
>Ooh you cheeky monkey!!!

What?? It's just another baked item, isn't it??

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 21:30:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:31:49 +0000, Broadback
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 28/12/2013 13:34, Gus wrote:
>>>>> Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread?
>>>>> At
>>>>> the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
>>>>> forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor
>>>>> belt?
>>>>Us Brits do love out crumpets! ;-))
>>>
>>> Especially with so many tarts out there!
>>
>>Ooh you cheeky monkey!!!
>
> What?? It's just another baked item, isn't it??
>
>

Aye ;p bachatcha.
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On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 08:34:59 -0500, "Gus" >
wrote:

>Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread? At
>the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
>forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor belt?
The texture of a toasted muffin is better when the muffin is forked
apart rather than sliced. See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallard_reaction

I've always wondered about English muffins. How "English" are they
really? In TV dramas like "Downton Abbey", "Duchess of Duke Street"
etc people are often eating something "at tea" called a "scone" that
looks suspiciously like what's called an "English muffin" in the US.

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On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 16:45:01 +0200, Opinicus
> wrote:


>The texture of a toasted muffin is better when the muffin is forked
>apart rather than sliced. See:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallard_reaction

I should have said "texture and flavor" and that should be "Maillard".
Sorry for the Daffy link...

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"Opinicus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 16:45:01 +0200, Opinicus
> > wrote:
>
>
>>The texture of a toasted muffin is better when the muffin is forked
>>apart rather than sliced. See:
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallard_reaction
>
> I should have said "texture and flavor" and that should be "Maillard".
> Sorry for the Daffy link...

The link works, just the url is Daffy for saying mallard. lol.
Thanks.

Bagels are usually sliced. But I guess they are a different animal.

On 12/28/2013 9:45 AM, Opinicus wrote:
>
> I've always wondered about English muffins. How "English" are they
> really? In TV dramas like "Downton Abbey", "Duchess of Duke Street"
> etc people are often eating something "at tea" called a "scone" that
> looks suspiciously like what's called an "English muffin" in the US.
>

That's what you get for thinking television depicts reality.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/28/2013 9:45 AM, Opinicus wrote:
>>
>> I've always wondered about English muffins. How "English" are they
>> really? In TV dramas like "Downton Abbey", "Duchess of Duke Street"
>> etc people are often eating something "at tea" called a "scone" that
>> looks suspiciously like what's called an "English muffin" in the US.
>>
>
> That's what you get for thinking television depicts reality.

But, but Jill!!! tv is ..... real ... isn't it???

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"l not -l" > wrote in message
...
>
> On 28-Dec-2013, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 12/28/2013 9:45 AM, Opinicus wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I've always wondered about English muffins. How "English" are they
>> >> really? In TV dramas like "Downton Abbey", "Duchess of Duke Street"
>> >> etc people are often eating something "at tea" called a "scone"
>> >> that
>> >> looks suspiciously like what's called an "English muffin" in the
>> >> US.
>> >>
>> >
>> > That's what you get for thinking television depicts reality.
>>
>> But, but Jill!!! tv is ..... real ... isn't it???
>>
>> --
>
> Only the "reality shows". 8-)

lol
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On 2013-12-28 9:45 AM, Opinicus wrote:

> I've always wondered about English muffins. How "English" are they
> really? In TV dramas like "Downton Abbey", "Duchess of Duke Street"
> etc people are often eating something "at tea" called a "scone" that
> looks suspiciously like what's called an "English muffin" in the US.
>
A scone is more like a biscuit in texture, but usually a little richer,
and cut into wedge or diamonds shapes. They are usually served with jam
and butter or clotted cream. There are a lot of scones being flogged
these days that are loaded with sugar and often covered in icing, much
different from the scones my English grandmother made... and hers did
not rhyme with stones.

On 12/28/2013 4:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> A scone is more like a biscuit in texture, but usually a little richer,
> and cut into wedge or diamonds shapes. They are usually served with jam
> and butter or clotted cream. There are a lot of scones being flogged
> these days that are loaded with sugar and often covered in icing, much
> different from the scones my English grandmother made... and hers did
> not rhyme with stones.

It's that e that makes it a long o, if they wanted a short o,
leave off the e.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/28/2013 4:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> A scone is more like a biscuit in texture, but usually a little richer,
>> and cut into wedge or diamonds shapes. They are usually served with jam
>> and butter or clotted cream. There are a lot of scones being flogged
>> these days that are loaded with sugar and often covered in icing, much
>> different from the scones my English grandmother made... and hers did
>> not rhyme with stones.
>
> It's that e that makes it a long o, if they wanted a short o,
> leave off the e.

Well, we said 'scons' and written they were scones
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On 2013-12-28 5:04 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>

>> It's that e that makes it a long o, if they wanted a short o,
>> leave off the e.
>
> Well, we said 'scons' and written they were scones



My English grandmother used to make them and she called them 'scons' my
other grandmother, mostly Irish and Scottish made them and called them
scones. It is relatively recent that they started appearing in coffee
shops, usually very sweet and over iced and they call them 'scones'. I
always figured they were not British and/or had not been raised with
'scons' so they just didn't know any better.

On 12/28/2013 5:04 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 12/28/2013 4:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> A scone is more like a biscuit in texture, but usually a little richer,
>>> and cut into wedge or diamonds shapes. They are usually served with jam
>>> and butter or clotted cream. There are a lot of scones being flogged
>>> these days that are loaded with sugar and often covered in icing, much
>>> different from the scones my English grandmother made... and hers did
>>> not rhyme with stones.
>>
>> It's that e that makes it a long o, if they wanted a short o,
>> leave off the e.
>
> Well, we said 'scons' and written they were scones

I've always said 'scons' but written scones.

Jill

On Saturday, December 28, 2013 3:04:05 PM UTC-7, Ophelia wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On 12/28/2013 4:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> A scone is more like a biscuit in texture, but usually a little richer,
>
> >> and cut into wedge or diamonds shapes. They are usually served with jam
>
> >> and butter or clotted cream. There are a lot of scones being flogged
>
> >> these days that are loaded with sugar and often covered in icing, much
>
> >> different from the scones my English grandmother made... and hers did
>
> >> not rhyme with stones.
>
> >
>
> > It's that e that makes it a long o, if they wanted a short o,
>
> > leave off the e.
>
>
>
> Well, we said 'scons' and written they were scones
>
> --
>
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

Unfortunately the English have one 'ell of a time pronouncing what they write...and the Scots are not much better.

On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 08:34:59 -0500, "Gus" >
wrote:

> Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread? At
> the muffin factory, instead of slicers are there machines that have
> forks on the end that stab the muffins as they go by on a conveyor belt?

We used to fork split them before they were ever factory split because
you get more nooks and crannies that way, which means more places for
butter and jam to nestle in.

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On 12/28/13 8:34 AM, Gus wrote:
> Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread?

So that they'll have more surface area to toast nice and crunchy.

All the English muffins I've ever had (including Thomas's) have needed
manual splitting with a fork at home. I wouldn't buy any that were
split completely -- they'd go stale much faster, if they weren't already.

-- Larry

pltrgyst wrote:
>
> On 12/28/13 8:34 AM, Gus wrote:
> > Why are they almost always "fork-split" and not sliced, like bread?
>
> So that they'll have more surface area to toast nice and crunchy.
>
> All the English muffins I've ever had (including Thomas's) have needed
> manual splitting with a fork at home. I wouldn't buy any that were
> split completely -- they'd go stale much faster, if they weren't already.
>
> -- Larry

If you're buying ones like Thomas's, they're pre-staled for you and also
not much like the english muffins found in London. Bay's is the closest
thing to authentic I'm aware of in the US.

On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 13:44:25 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:
>
> If you're buying ones like Thomas's, they're pre-staled for you and also
> not much like the english muffins found in London. Bay's is the closest
> thing to authentic I'm aware of in the US.

I hate Bay's, but that certainly explains why the B&B in Bath put out
English muffins I considered inferior. I would have been fine with
crumpets, but English muffins? No thanks.

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On 12/28/13 1:44 PM, Pete C. wrote:
>
> If you're buying ones like Thomas's, they're pre-staled for you and also
> not much like the english muffins found in London.

True. That's why my wife has a favorite recipe for loaves of English
muffin bread that she makes in the bread machine.

We slice them, and the have a nice crumb on both sides, so they toast up
*really* nicely.

-- Larry

On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 18:18:05 -0500, pltrgyst > wrote:

> On 12/28/13 1:44 PM, Pete C. wrote:
> >
> > If you're buying ones like Thomas's, they're pre-staled for you and also
> > not much like the english muffins found in London.
>
> True. That's why my wife has a favorite recipe for loaves of English
> muffin bread that she makes in the bread machine.
>
> We slice them, and the have a nice crumb on both sides, so they toast up
> *really* nicely.
>

Oh, we do love English muffin toasting bread - it disappears quickly
at my house.

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"pltrgyst" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/28/13 1:44 PM, Pete C. wrote:
>>
>> If you're buying ones like Thomas's, they're pre-staled for you and
>> also
>> not much like the english muffins found in London.
>
> True. That's why my wife has a favorite recipe for loaves of English
> muffin bread that she makes in the bread machine.
>
> We slice them, and the have a nice crumb on both sides, so they toast
> up *really* nicely.

I was watching "World's End" last night and the one lady said a few
times "oh crumbs" as kind of a mild curse. Never heard that before in a
UK show or movie. I wonder if Simon Pegg made it up? I love Spaced,
and like Shaun of the Dead quite a bit. And that one with an alien.
But didn't think "World's End" was very funny or interesting.

On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 19:29:08 -0500, "Gus" >
wrote:

snip
>
>I was watching "World's End" last night and the one lady said a few
>times "oh crumbs" as kind of a mild curse. Never heard that before in a
>UK show or movie. I wonder if Simon Pegg made it up? I love Spaced,
>and like Shaun of the Dead quite a bit. And that one with an alien.
>But didn't think "World's End" was very funny or interesting.
>
That's so old it has whiskers
Janet US

On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 19:29:08 -0500, "Gus" >
wrote:

> I was watching "World's End" last night and the one lady said a few
> times "oh crumbs" as kind of a mild curse. Never heard that before in a
> UK show or movie. I wonder if Simon Pegg made it up? I love Spaced,
> and like Shaun of the Dead quite a bit. And that one with an alien.
> But didn't think "World's End" was very funny or interesting.
>

I've heard/read "oh, crumb" as a mild oath before.

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"Gus" > wrote in message
...
> "pltrgyst" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 12/28/13 1:44 PM, Pete C. wrote:
>>>
>>> If you're buying ones like Thomas's, they're pre-staled for you and also
>>> not much like the english muffins found in London.
>>
>> True. That's why my wife has a favorite recipe for loaves of English
>> muffin bread that she makes in the bread machine.
>>
>> We slice them, and the have a nice crumb on both sides, so they toast up
>> *really* nicely.
>
> I was watching "World's End" last night and the one lady said a few times
> "oh crumbs" as kind of a mild curse. Never heard that before in a UK show
> or movie. I wonder if Simon Pegg made it up? I love Spaced, and like
> Shaun of the Dead quite a bit. And that one with an alien. But didn't
> think "World's End" was very funny or interesting.

LOL we use 'Crumbs' too)
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pltrgyst wrote:
>Pete the Creep wrote:
>>
>> If you're buying ones like Thomas's, they're pre-staled for you and also
>> not much like the english muffins found in London.
>
>True. That's why my wife has a favorite recipe for loaves of English
>muffin bread that she makes in the bread machine.
>
>We slice them, and the have a nice crumb on both sides, so they toast up
>*really* nicely.

Total BS... there is nothing UK about English muffins... they're a US
invention. It's easy to tell that Pete is an uneducated putz, he
doesn't know that English is capitalized... Pete is a High School drop
out and never even got his GED. And pltrgyst, don't you get all
puffed up, you're uneducated too, and your using your wife for
credibility makes her your filthy slut... ABM English muffin bread
your lying ass.

On Saturday, December 28, 2013 1:44:25 PM UTC-5, Pete C. wrote:
>
> If you're buying ones like Thomas's, they're pre-staled for you and also
> not much like the english muffins found in London. Bay's is the closest
> thing to authentic I'm aware of in the US.

I've never seen "English Muffins" in London. Are they
a new introduction (in the last 30 years)?

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 1/8/2014 5:00 PM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Saturday, December 28, 2013 1:44:25 PM UTC-5, Pete C. wrote:
>>
>> If you're buying ones like Thomas's, they're pre-staled for you and also
>> not much like the english muffins found in London. Bay's is the closest
>> thing to authentic I'm aware of in the US.
>
> I've never seen "English Muffins" in London. Are they
> a new introduction (in the last 30 years)?

I don't find Thomas' or Giant Supermarket "English Muffins" particularly
stale. Slit, they toast very well.

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