I am still reading that book called Knickerbocker Glory Years. Although it
is mainly about British food, the author also touches on food from other
countries and I personally think it is quite funny. I highly recommend it.
Am almost to the end of the book. I am a fast reader but have only been
able to read a page here and there so that's why it is taking me so long.

Anyway... The author mentioned muffins and said that they are no longer a
savory food but are now essentially cupcakes. And people in this country
have made such comments. They're unfrosted cupcakes! But now? We just saw
cupcakes at the store that had a drizzle of what appeared to be caramel
frosting on them! It was put on in one of those criss crossing fashions.
They draped it across one direction repeatedly and the did it again
crosswise. These were located in with the muffins and we had to actually
look at the label to make sure what they were. Caramel Apple Muffins. They
also had the freakishly green and strangely seedy looking Pistachio Muffins.
I just happened to mention those to the cashier one day who told me what
they were and added that they were nasty. And they have Red Velvet Muffins
with the cream cheese swirl! And Chocolate Muffins with Chocolate Chips.

So I am thinking back. I don't really remember too many muffins from my
youth, perhaps because I didn't care for them too well. I know that people
made cornmeal into muffins. And I know that I made a few recipes from the
Betty Crocker cookbook, one that contained jelly inside. They were called
Surprise Muffins. And me being the smart alecky practical joker type was of
course thinking of dozens of other things besides jelly that I could put in
there as the surprise! But my dad turned up his nose at them and said that
he didn't care for surprises! So I don't think I ever made them again.

Seems like we have had the bran muffin forever, often with raisins in there,
and probably the blueberry muffin as well. Both sweet and cupcake-like.

Then in the 80's when I went on that extreme low fat craze and also a weight
loss diet, I made some muffins using one of the variations listed in my
Betty Crocker cookbook. It was probably the 1979 edition. The regular
flour was replaced with a mix of whole oats and whole wheat flour but from
there I did my own variations. I used applesauce instead of oil, egg whites
only and then a ton of fruit and nuts for protein. Yes, I know that nuts
have fat in them but on most days that was about the only fat I ate.
Sometimes I used dried fruit that had been chopped and plumped in hot water.
Other times I used fresh fruit. Depended on the time of year, what I could
get my hands on or what I had in the house. But... I added so many fruits
and nuts to the mix that there was only just enough muffin batter to hold it
together. I actually liked these, usually. They were not really
muffin-like to me and certainly not light and fluffy like a cupcake. And
unless I put fruit in that I hated (I actually don't like most fruits and
did discover some dried ones that I didn't care for), they made for a good
quick breakfast that could even be eaten in my car on the way to work.

Then a few years later and no longer on that diet, I got a muffin cookbook.
I baked my way through that thing, rarely eating them myself but getting
rave reviews from the people at work. And now that I rear back and think
about it, I think I did in fact put some glaze on some of those. Like the
lemon poppy seed. I did make them as mini muffins though, as if that somehow
makes them better!

So where do we draw the line between the muffin and the cupcake? On that
Cupcake Wars show they have done things like BLT or Ham and Cheese Cupcakes.
I think I once even saw something like a Chicken Pot Pie Cupcake. Those
things usually don't get good reviews but it's the fault of whoever dreams
up the ingredients for the show by forcing them to use them. Damned if they
don't showcase the savory foods and yet they also expect the big giant swirl
of icing so damned if they make a savory icing!

What is the difference to you? I really don't know.

Julie Bove wrote:

[snip]

> What is the difference to you? I really don't know.

So, for real one time I was talking to this woman at a work party and at
some point she said "my own little cake, just for me" while cradling her
cupcake.

I never saw anyone act like that toward a muffin.

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> What is the difference to you? I really don't know.
>
> So, for real one time I was talking to this woman at a work party and at
> some point she said "my own little cake, just for me" while cradling her
> cupcake.
>
> I never saw anyone act like that toward a muffin.

Interesting! I have heard that that is the appeal of cupcakes.

On 12/29/2013 4:03 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> What is the difference to you? I really don't know.
>
>
A cupcake is like a small cake and is frosted. It has a finer texture
than a muffin, which is never frosted. If it's got a texture like a
muffin and is frosted, it's some kind of freakish hybrid. You can whip
up a muffin a lot faster than a cupcake. A muffin's texture depends on
mixing the ingredients together in a few seconds. I like muffins,
cupcakes - not so much.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/29/2013 4:03 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> What is the difference to you? I really don't know.
>>
>>
> A cupcake is like a small cake and is frosted. It has a finer texture than
> a muffin, which is never frosted. If it's got a texture like a muffin and
> is frosted, it's some kind of freakish hybrid. You can whip up a muffin a
> lot faster than a cupcake. A muffin's texture depends on mixing the
> ingredients together in a few seconds. I like muffins, cupcakes - not so
> much.

Thanks!

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> What is the difference to you? I really don't know.
>
> So, for real one time I was talking to this woman at a work party and at
> some point she said "my own little cake, just for me" while cradling her
> cupcake.
>
> I never saw anyone act like that toward a muffin.

lol

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"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> What is the difference to you? I really don't know.
>
> So, for real one time I was talking to this woman at a work party and
> at
> some point she said "my own little cake, just for me" while cradling
> her
> cupcake.
>
> I never saw anyone act like that toward a muffin.

I much prefer english muffins to cupcakes. Much healthier, and I don't
feel "blah, why did I eat that?" twenty minutes later... Someone
mentioned Thomas. I've gotten those a couple times when on sale, and
the Kroger brand is much better and a lot cheaper.

Occasionally, I will be at deli type place and the menu will say served
on English Muffin, but it's not toasted when arrives. Untoasted English
muffins aren't very good. They seem to be made to be toasted.

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 23:05:26 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

>On 12/29/2013 4:03 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> What is the difference to you? I really don't know.
>>
>>
>A cupcake is like a small cake and is frosted. It has a finer texture
>than a muffin, which is never frosted. If it's got a texture like a
>muffin and is frosted, it's some kind of freakish hybrid. You can whip
>up a muffin a lot faster than a cupcake. A muffin's texture depends on
>mixing the ingredients together in a few seconds. I like muffins,
>cupcakes - not so much.

Regardless the recipe, if it's baked in a paper cup it's a cupcake.

On Monday, December 30, 2013 9:23:47 AM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>
> Regardless the recipe, if it's baked in a paper cup it's a cupcake.

That's as dumb as saying, if it's baked in a muffin tin, it's a muffin.

--B

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 23:05:26 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>>On 12/29/2013 4:03 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> What is the difference to you? I really don't know.
>>>
>>>
>>A cupcake is like a small cake and is frosted. It has a finer texture
>>than a muffin, which is never frosted. If it's got a texture like a
>>muffin and is frosted, it's some kind of freakish hybrid. You can whip
>>up a muffin a lot faster than a cupcake. A muffin's texture depends on
>>mixing the ingredients together in a few seconds. I like muffins,
>>cupcakes - not so much.
>
> Regardless the recipe, if it's baked in a paper cup it's a cupcake.

We used to make fairy cakes (shuttup Sheldon). The same recipe as a sponge
cake but baked in bun cases We used to cut a slice off the top, put a dab
of cream on, cut the slice into two 'wings' and put them on top and then we
called them butterfly cakes)

http://www.mykitchentable.co.uk/inde...tterfly-cakes/

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On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 07:55:12 -0500, "Gus" >
wrote:

>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> What is the difference to you? I really don't know.
>>
>> So, for real one time I was talking to this woman at a work party and
>> at
>> some point she said "my own little cake, just for me" while cradling
>> her
>> cupcake.
>>
>> I never saw anyone act like that toward a muffin.
>
>I much prefer english muffins to cupcakes. Much healthier.

There is nothing healthful about English muffins, just empty carb
calories.

On Monday, December 30, 2013 10:19:52 AM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>
> >> Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >> [snip]
>
> >I much prefer english muffins to cupcakes. Much healthier.
>
> There is nothing healthful about English muffins, just empty carb
> calories.
>
>
Sheldon is correct, nothing 'healthful' about English muffins, but they DO taste good.

On 12/30/2013 5:23 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 23:05:26 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 12/29/2013 4:03 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> What is the difference to you? I really don't know.
>>>
>>>
>> A cupcake is like a small cake and is frosted. It has a finer texture
>> than a muffin, which is never frosted. If it's got a texture like a
>> muffin and is frosted, it's some kind of freakish hybrid. You can whip
>> up a muffin a lot faster than a cupcake. A muffin's texture depends on
>> mixing the ingredients together in a few seconds. I like muffins,
>> cupcakes - not so much.
>
> Regardless the recipe, if it's baked in a paper cup it's a cupcake.
>

What an amazing thing - you just blew my mind! 🙌

> wrote in message
...
> On Monday, December 30, 2013 10:19:52 AM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:

>> There is nothing healthful about English muffins, just empty carb
>> calories.
>>
> Sheldon is correct, nothing 'healthful' about English muffins, but
> they DO taste good.

well, I said "healthier" than cupcakes. They aren't a dessert. And
they have complex carbohydrates and vitamins. I've tried the healthier
wheat muffins, but don't care for those as much. They are pretty good
with pb though.

"English muffins are a good source of complex carbohydrates, thiamine,
niacin and iron."
http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/yumm...ffin-2165.html

In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...

> Regardless the recipe, if it's baked in a paper cup it's a cupcake.

What have you done with the real Sheldon?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/consumedbycake/3487705357/

Janet UK

To me, a muffin is something with some body to it , e.g. a bran or blueberry muffin, made with whole wheat flour, and maybe some raisins and nuts included. A cupcake is just a sweet, not too nutritious bit of cake.

Gus wrote:
>
> Occasionally, I will be at deli type place and the menu will say served
> on English Muffin, but it's not toasted when arrives. Untoasted English
> muffins aren't very good. They seem to be made to be toasted.

I agree.

G.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> We used to make fairy cakes (shuttup Sheldon).

LOL! ;-D

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> We used to make fairy cakes (shuttup Sheldon).
>
> LOL! ;-D



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" wrote:
>
> Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > There is nothing healthful about English muffins, just empty carb
> > calories.
> >
> Sheldon is correct, nothing 'healthful' about English muffins, but they DO taste good.

I love toasted Thomas english muffins. I'll eat them plain with butter
or sometimes with butter and jam on top. My only issue with them is
that it takes a LOT of butter to make them right. The carbs in the
muffin doesn't bother me - it's all that butter fat that I add. ;-o

For this reason, I only buy a package maybe 2-3 times a year.

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> " wrote:
>>
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > There is nothing healthful about English muffins, just empty carb
>> > calories.
>> >
>> Sheldon is correct, nothing 'healthful' about English muffins, but they
>> DO taste good.
>
> I love toasted Thomas english muffins. I'll eat them plain with butter
> or sometimes with butter and jam on top. My only issue with them is
> that it takes a LOT of butter to make them right. The carbs in the
> muffin doesn't bother me - it's all that butter fat that I add. ;-o
>
> For this reason, I only buy a package maybe 2-3 times a year.

Something I never eat! I think I will stick with my toast It keeps me
'going' for the rest of the day <g>

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On 2013-12-30 3:50 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> To me, a muffin is something with some body to it , e.g. a bran or
> blueberry muffin, made with whole wheat flour, and maybe some raisins
> and nuts included. A cupcake is just a sweet, not too nutritious bit
> of cake.
>


I agree. There seems to be a lot of muffins on the market these days
that IMO are more like cupcakes than muffins. Varieties like blueberry
and lemon poppy seed are among the worst offenders.

I get muffins at a nearby cafe bakery that sells a variety of muffins,
usually 4 or 5 varieties and rotates the selection. This week she has
cranberry orange, gingerbread, carrot and pineapple, apple crunch and my
favourite, chocolate pumpkin. It sounds odd but it is surprisingly good.

On 2013-12-30 4:33 PM, Gary wrote:
eldon is correct, nothing 'healthful' about English muffins, but they DO
taste good.
>
> I love toasted Thomas english muffins. I'll eat them plain with butter
> or sometimes with butter and jam on top. My only issue with them is
> that it takes a LOT of butter to make them right. The carbs in the
> muffin doesn't bother me - it's all that butter fat that I add. ;-o
>
> For this reason, I only buy a package maybe 2-3 times a year.
>
>


I have not bought English muffins in years. My once or twice a year
indulgence is crumpets.

On Monday, December 30, 2013 4:42:47 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2013-12-30 3:50 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>
> > To me, a muffin is something with some body to it , e.g. a bran or
>
> > blueberry muffin, made with whole wheat flour, and maybe some raisins
>
> > and nuts included. A cupcake is just a sweet, not too nutritious bit
>
> > of cake.
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> I agree. There seems to be a lot of muffins on the market these days
>
> that IMO are more like cupcakes than muffins. Varieties like blueberry
>
> and lemon poppy seed are among the worst offenders.
>
>
>
> I get muffins at a nearby cafe bakery that sells a variety of muffins,
>
> usually 4 or 5 varieties and rotates the selection. This week she has
>
> cranberry orange, gingerbread, carrot and pineapple, apple crunch and my
>
> favourite, chocolate pumpkin. It sounds odd but it is surprisingly good.

A certain supermkt chain sells from their bakery what they term "Blueberry Muffins" - which are merely a white cupcake with a smattering of blueberries and topped with some kind of awful sticky substance. The fiber content is probably nearing zero.

"Gus" > wrote in message
...
> Occasionally, I will be at deli type place and the menu will say served on
> English Muffin, but it's not toasted when arrives. Untoasted English
> muffins aren't very good. They seem to be made to be toasted.

Agree!
>

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> " wrote:
>>>
>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> > There is nothing healthful about English muffins, just empty carb
>>> > calories.
>>> >
>>> Sheldon is correct, nothing 'healthful' about English muffins, but they
>>> DO taste good.
>>
>> I love toasted Thomas english muffins. I'll eat them plain with butter
>> or sometimes with butter and jam on top. My only issue with them is
>> that it takes a LOT of butter to make them right. The carbs in the
>> muffin doesn't bother me - it's all that butter fat that I add. ;-o
>>
>> For this reason, I only buy a package maybe 2-3 times a year.
>
> Something I never eat! I think I will stick with my toast It keeps me
> 'going' for the rest of the day <g>

Have not eaten them for many years. Used to be a restaurant here that
served something called Tuna Twins. Split and toasted, buttered English
muffins topped with a slice of tomato, scoop of tuna salad and a slice of
cheese. Heated in the oven till the cheese melted. So rich and good and
next to impossible to eat! Too thick and unwieldy to pick up and if you
used a fork you could only concentrate on one part at a time. Also always
got full before I finished the second one. But soooo good!

I would make the same at home with either less tuna or just tomato and
cheese. I do miss English muffins but alas they have dairy in them.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 23:05:26 -1000, dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On 12/29/2013 4:03 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What is the difference to you? I really don't know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>A cupcake is like a small cake and is frosted. It has a finer texture
>>>than a muffin, which is never frosted. If it's got a texture like a
>>>muffin and is frosted, it's some kind of freakish hybrid. You can whip
>>>up a muffin a lot faster than a cupcake. A muffin's texture depends on
>>>mixing the ingredients together in a few seconds. I like muffins,
>>>cupcakes - not so much.
>>
>> Regardless the recipe, if it's baked in a paper cup it's a cupcake.
>
> We used to make fairy cakes (shuttup Sheldon). The same recipe as a
> sponge cake but baked in bun cases We used to cut a slice off the top,
> put a dab of cream on, cut the slice into two 'wings' and put them on top
> and then we called them butterfly cakes)
>
> http://www.mykitchentable.co.uk/inde...tterfly-cakes/

Cute!

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> " wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> > There is nothing healthful about English muffins, just empty carb
>>>> > calories.
>>>> >
>>>> Sheldon is correct, nothing 'healthful' about English muffins, but they
>>>> DO taste good.
>>>
>>> I love toasted Thomas english muffins. I'll eat them plain with butter
>>> or sometimes with butter and jam on top. My only issue with them is
>>> that it takes a LOT of butter to make them right. The carbs in the
>>> muffin doesn't bother me - it's all that butter fat that I add. ;-o
>>>
>>> For this reason, I only buy a package maybe 2-3 times a year.
>>
>> Something I never eat! I think I will stick with my toast It keeps me
>> 'going' for the rest of the day <g>
>
> Have not eaten them for many years. Used to be a restaurant here that
> served something called Tuna Twins. Split and toasted, buttered English
> muffins topped with a slice of tomato, scoop of tuna salad and a slice of
> cheese. Heated in the oven till the cheese melted. So rich and good and
> next to impossible to eat! Too thick and unwieldy to pick up and if you
> used a fork you could only concentrate on one part at a time. Also
> always got full before I finished the second one. But soooo good!
>
> I would make the same at home with either less tuna or just tomato and
> cheese. I do miss English muffins but alas they have dairy in them.

Oh I didn't know that! I read someone here (sorry I forget who) makes
muffin bread in a breadmaker! You could do that with no dairy ... I
suppose! Not something I've ever made.


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"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
> To me, a muffin is something with some body to it , e.g. a bran or
> blueberry muffin, made with whole wheat flour, and maybe some raisins and
> nuts included. A cupcake is just a sweet, not too nutritious bit of cake.

Thanks!

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> " wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> > There is nothing healthful about English muffins, just empty carb
>>>>> > calories.
>>>>> >
>>>>> Sheldon is correct, nothing 'healthful' about English muffins, but
>>>>> they
>>>>> DO taste good.
>>>>
>>>> I love toasted Thomas english muffins. I'll eat them plain with butter
>>>> or sometimes with butter and jam on top. My only issue with them is
>>>> that it takes a LOT of butter to make them right. The carbs in the
>>>> muffin doesn't bother me - it's all that butter fat that I add. ;-o
>>>>
>>>> For this reason, I only buy a package maybe 2-3 times a year.
>>>
>>> Something I never eat! I think I will stick with my toast It keeps
>>> me
>>> 'going' for the rest of the day <g>
>>
>> Have not eaten them for many years. Used to be a restaurant here that
>> served something called Tuna Twins. Split and toasted, buttered English
>> muffins topped with a slice of tomato, scoop of tuna salad and a slice of
>> cheese. Heated in the oven till the cheese melted. So rich and good and
>> next to impossible to eat! Too thick and unwieldy to pick up and if you
>> used a fork you could only concentrate on one part at a time. Also
>> always got full before I finished the second one. But soooo good!
>>
>> I would make the same at home with either less tuna or just tomato and
>> cheese. I do miss English muffins but alas they have dairy in them.
>
> Oh I didn't know that! I read someone here (sorry I forget who) makes
> muffin bread in a breadmaker! You could do that with no dairy ... I
> suppose! Not something I've ever made.

My breadmaker only does one shape. There may well be a dairy free recipe
out there. I did buy some gluten free ones made of yams. I didn't try
them. Daughter said they were just okay but as most GF things are, they
bear no taste resemblence to the real thing.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> " wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>> > There is nothing healthful about English muffins, just empty carb
>>>>>> > calories.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Sheldon is correct, nothing 'healthful' about English muffins, but
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> DO taste good.
>>>>>
>>>>> I love toasted Thomas english muffins. I'll eat them plain with butter
>>>>> or sometimes with butter and jam on top. My only issue with them is
>>>>> that it takes a LOT of butter to make them right. The carbs in the
>>>>> muffin doesn't bother me - it's all that butter fat that I add. ;-o
>>>>>
>>>>> For this reason, I only buy a package maybe 2-3 times a year.
>>>>
>>>> Something I never eat! I think I will stick with my toast It keeps
>>>> me
>>>> 'going' for the rest of the day <g>
>>>
>>> Have not eaten them for many years. Used to be a restaurant here that
>>> served something called Tuna Twins. Split and toasted, buttered English
>>> muffins topped with a slice of tomato, scoop of tuna salad and a slice
>>> of
>>> cheese. Heated in the oven till the cheese melted. So rich and good
>>> and
>>> next to impossible to eat! Too thick and unwieldy to pick up and if you
>>> used a fork you could only concentrate on one part at a time. Also
>>> always got full before I finished the second one. But soooo good!
>>>
>>> I would make the same at home with either less tuna or just tomato and
>>> cheese. I do miss English muffins but alas they have dairy in them.
>>
>> Oh I didn't know that! I read someone here (sorry I forget who) makes
>> muffin bread in a breadmaker! You could do that with no dairy ... I
>> suppose! Not something I've ever made.
>
> My breadmaker only does one shape. There may well be a dairy free recipe
> out there. I did buy some gluten free ones made of yams. I didn't try
> them. Daughter said they were just okay but as most GF things are, they
> bear no taste resemblence to the real thing.

Nooo he said he bakes them as loaves and toasts the slices!

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> " wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>>> > There is nothing healthful about English muffins, just empty carb
>>>>>>> > calories.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Sheldon is correct, nothing 'healthful' about English muffins, but
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> DO taste good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I love toasted Thomas english muffins. I'll eat them plain with
>>>>>> butter
>>>>>> or sometimes with butter and jam on top. My only issue with them is
>>>>>> that it takes a LOT of butter to make them right. The carbs in the
>>>>>> muffin doesn't bother me - it's all that butter fat that I add. ;-o
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For this reason, I only buy a package maybe 2-3 times a year.
>>>>>
>>>>> Something I never eat! I think I will stick with my toast It keeps
>>>>> me
>>>>> 'going' for the rest of the day <g>
>>>>
>>>> Have not eaten them for many years. Used to be a restaurant here that
>>>> served something called Tuna Twins. Split and toasted, buttered
>>>> English
>>>> muffins topped with a slice of tomato, scoop of tuna salad and a slice
>>>> of
>>>> cheese. Heated in the oven till the cheese melted. So rich and good
>>>> and
>>>> next to impossible to eat! Too thick and unwieldy to pick up and if
>>>> you
>>>> used a fork you could only concentrate on one part at a time. Also
>>>> always got full before I finished the second one. But soooo good!
>>>>
>>>> I would make the same at home with either less tuna or just tomato and
>>>> cheese. I do miss English muffins but alas they have dairy in them.
>>>
>>> Oh I didn't know that! I read someone here (sorry I forget who) makes
>>> muffin bread in a breadmaker! You could do that with no dairy ... I
>>> suppose! Not something I've ever made.
>>
>> My breadmaker only does one shape. There may well be a dairy free recipe
>> out there. I did buy some gluten free ones made of yams. I didn't try
>> them. Daughter said they were just okay but as most GF things are, they
>> bear no taste resemblence to the real thing.
>
> Nooo he said he bakes them as loaves and toasts the slices!

Oh! Well, that wouldn't work with mine either.

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...

> A certain supermkt chain sells from their bakery what they term
> "Blueberry Muffins" - which are merely a white cupcake with a
> smattering of blueberries and topped with some kind of awful sticky
> substance. The fiber content is probably nearing zero.

I used to get blueberry bagels, and one day I was mindlessly looking at
the wrapper it came in and happened to look at the ingredients.
Blueberries were not listed. But instead there was apple, and blue food
coloring.

"Gary" > wrote in message
...
> " wrote:
>>
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > There is nothing healthful about English muffins, just empty carb
>> > calories.
>> >
>> Sheldon is correct, nothing 'healthful' about English muffins, but
>> they DO taste good.
>
> I love toasted Thomas english muffins. I'll eat them plain with butter
> or sometimes with butter and jam on top. My only issue with them is
> that it takes a LOT of butter to make them right. The carbs in the
> muffin doesn't bother me - it's all that butter fat that I add. ;-o
>
> For this reason, I only buy a package maybe 2-3 times a year.
>
> G.


I like the Kroger sourdough toasted without anything on them. Sometimes
I do put some pb or a piece of tofurkey on them, but plenty of flavor
without anything. It's the fattening things people put on them that
make them "unhealthy".


Another site that says they are healthy:

Low in Fat and Calories
An English muffin is a low-fat food that is a healthy addition to a
meal. A Thomas' English muffin contains 1 g of total fat, for example,
but is trans and saturated fat free. A diet low in fat promotes a
healthy heart and allows you to maintain a normal weight. An English
muffin is similar in calorie content to two slices of bread. A Thomas'
whole-wheat English muffin contains 120 calories, while the 12 grain
variety has 140 calories. A diet low in calories prevents unhealthy
weight gain. Other manufacturers' English muffins are similar in fat and
calorie content.

Fiber Content
Bread products, English muffins included, are good sources of fiber.
Choosing a whole grain English muffin will increase that fiber content.
A Thomas' original English muffin contains 1 g of fiber, while the whole
wheat version contains 3 g. Women should aim for 21 to 25 g of fiber
each day, while men need between 30 and 38 g. Fiber promotes a healthy
digestive system and helps control your cholesterol and blood sugar
readings. It also fills up your stomach, preventing hunger and binge
eating between meals.Carbohydrate Content

Many people tend to shy away from carbohydrates because they think that
they will gain weight if they eat them. However, carbohydrates are your
body's main source of energy, and you need to eat a moderate amount each
day so that you can function. You should aim for 45 to 65 percent of
your calories to come from carbohydrates. For a 2,000 calorie diet, this
equates to 225 to 325 g each day. Whole grain English muffins contain
more complex carbohydrates, which offer long-lasting energy. A Thomas'
whole-wheat English muffin contains 26 g of carbohydrates.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/38...ffins-healthy/

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...

> There is nothing healthful about English muffins, just empty carb
> calories.

On the wrapper on Kroger wheat bread, and Kroger sourdough english
muffin:

Wheat Bread Sourdough English Muffin
serving 54g 57g
fat 1 1g
calories 140 140
sodium 280 270
tot. carb. 30 27
sugars 4 2


The wheat bread actually has twice as much simple "empty" carbohydrates.
Most of the carbohydrates are complex and not empty. And ww are slightly
better, with more dietary fiber.

On 12/30/2013 5:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> We used to make fairy cakes (shuttup Sheldon). The same recipe as a
> sponge cake but baked in bun cases We used to cut a slice off the
> top, put a dab of cream on, cut the slice into two 'wings' and put them
> on top and then we called them butterfly cakes)
>
> http://www.mykitchentable.co.uk/inde...tterfly-cakes/
>
>
That's damn cute although I'm have some problem with seeing the
butterfly. How about some swans?

http://www.barbarabakes.com/2012/08/cream-puff-swans/

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/30/2013 5:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> We used to make fairy cakes (shuttup Sheldon). The same recipe as a
>> sponge cake but baked in bun cases We used to cut a slice off the
>> top, put a dab of cream on, cut the slice into two 'wings' and put them
>> on top and then we called them butterfly cakes)
>>
>> http://www.mykitchentable.co.uk/inde...tterfly-cakes/
>>
>>
> That's damn cute although I'm have some problem with seeing the butterfly.
> How about some swans?
>
> http://www.barbarabakes.com/2012/08/cream-puff-swans/

<g> it is only because of the 'wings' on the top. Those swans are really
nice))

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On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 07:55:12 -0500, "Gus" >
wrote:
>
> I much prefer english muffins to cupcakes. Much healthier, and I don't
> feel "blah, why did I eat that?" twenty minutes later... Someone
> mentioned Thomas. I've gotten those a couple times when on sale, and
> the Kroger brand is much better and a lot cheaper.

If your store stocks them, try the Sara Lee english muffins. They're
fork split, crispier and have more "nooks & crannies" than even
Thomas's. Big and not so big grocery chains stock Sara Lee brand
bakery items, but not the english muffins. It's weird. I have a lead
about where to look, but haven't been there (not a main store for me)
to check it out yet.

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On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 08:05:33 -0500, "Gus" >
wrote:

> Occasionally, I will be at deli type place and the menu will say served
> on English Muffin, but it's not toasted when arrives. Untoasted English
> muffins aren't very good. They seem to be made to be toasted.

Agree! My local McDonald's went through a phase of not toasting the
English muffin (sausage McMuffin + coffee at the drive through), so I
stayed with a bear claw & coffee until that was rectified. Wished I
had a bagel shop on that route, but I didn't.

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