2013 was the year of the corpse. The living dead have never been more
socially accepted. In honor of he undead I am honoring their lack of
corporeal presence with the following drink:

Corpse Reviver II

This drink was once believed to bring people back from the dead. So, that's
pretty exciting, right?

Ingredients:

2 oz Gin
2 oz Fresh Lemon Juice
2 oz Cointreau
2 oz Lillet Blanc
2 drops of absinthe

Directions:

1. Add all ingredients into a cocktail shaker with ice and shake vigorously.
2. Pour into a glass and enjoy your return to the land of the living.

On 31/12/2013 13:43, Paul M. Cook wrote:

> Ingredients:

> 2 oz Gin
> 2 oz Fresh Lemon Juice
> 2 oz Cointreau
> 2 oz Lillet Blanc
> 2 drops of absinthe
^^^^^^^^

That's not going to be viable for people living in America, Australia,
France &tc.

How does it taste?

On 2013-12-31 14:40:05 +0000, White Spirit said:

> On 31/12/2013 13:43, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>> Ingredients:
>
>> 2 oz Gin
>> 2 oz Fresh Lemon Juice
>> 2 oz Cointreau
>> 2 oz Lillet Blanc
>> 2 drops of absinthe
> ^^^^^^^^
>
> That's not going to be viable for people living in America, Australia,
> France &tc.
>
> How does it taste?

You must have missed how in 2004 they began legalizing absinthe again.
In 2007 in the US, St. George began manufacturing it here in the US.
There are many distillers for it here and world wide.

In 2011 France revoked their law as well.

On 2013-12-31 14:40:05 +0000, White Spirit said:

> On 31/12/2013 13:43, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>> Ingredients:
>
>> 2 oz Gin
>> 2 oz Fresh Lemon Juice
>> 2 oz Cointreau
>> 2 oz Lillet Blanc
>> 2 drops of absinthe
> ^^^^^^^^
>
> That's not going to be viable for people living in America, Australia,
> France &tc.

Note that with only 2 drops of absinthe, any pastis like Ricard or
Pernod is likely to be just as (in)significant.

"White Spirit" > wrote in message
...
> On 31/12/2013 13:43, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>> Ingredients:
>
>> 2 oz Gin
>> 2 oz Fresh Lemon Juice
>> 2 oz Cointreau
>> 2 oz Lillet Blanc
>> 2 drops of absinthe
> ^^^^^^^^
>
> That's not going to be viable for people living in America, Australia,
> France &tc.
>
> How does it taste?

We have Pernod which is a pretty close match I am told. It's a pretty
lively drink. Potent, too. It has a lot of flavors and is anything but
dead. For me it is a good reason to keep on living.



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On 2013-12-31 3:26 PM, gtr wrote:
> On 2013-12-31 14:40:05 +0000, White Spirit said:

> You must have missed how in 2004 they began legalizing absinthe again.
> In 2007 in the US, St. George began manufacturing it here in the US.
> There are many distillers for it here and world wide.
>

It was probably before that.My son ordered some and it as delivered by
mail. He moved out of the house in 2000, so it was before that.

On 2013-12-31, Paul M. Cook > wrote:

> "White Spirit" > wrote in message
>>> 2 drops of absinthe
>> ^^^^^^^^
>>
>> That's not going to be viable for people living in America, Australia,
>> France &tc.

Absinthe has been legal in the US since 2007, although it must have a low
thujone content. Thujone is the boogey-man ingredient from wormwood
that was the basis for its ban around the world for almost a century.
This wormwood issue has been debated almost forever with no resolution
in sight. I think it's the basis for its popularity and legendary
status as an evil spirit. France has absinthe bars that carry 100 yr
old bottles of the original item. Bring $$$$!

>> How does it taste?

I have heard everything from licorice to anise (which is widely
different, IMO).

> We have Pernod.....

Pernod was one of the original premium French absinthe producers.
After the ban, they made a wormwood-less lower abv content version,
kinda like near-beer. I hated it the only time I've tasted it, almost
50 yrs ago. Very licorice-y. But, I've learned to enjoy anise, so I'm
looking forward to the absinthe tasting they have once a yr, here at a
bar in my little burg up the road.

nb

On 2013-12-31 20:56:11 +0000, Dave Smith said:

> On 2013-12-31 3:26 PM, gtr wrote:
>> On 2013-12-31 14:40:05 +0000, White Spirit said:
>
>> You must have missed how in 2004 they began legalizing absinthe again.
>> In 2007 in the US, St. George began manufacturing it here in the US.
>> There are many distillers for it here and world wide.
>>
>
> It was probably before that.My son ordered some and it as delivered by
> mail. He moved out of the house in 2000, so it was before that.

2004 was the Netherlands. Where did he order it before that, I wonder.

On 2013-12-31 20:49:47 +0000, Paul M. Cook said:

> "White Spirit" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 31/12/2013 13:43, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>
>>> Ingredients:
>>
>>> 2 oz Gin
>>> 2 oz Fresh Lemon Juice
>>> 2 oz Cointreau
>>> 2 oz Lillet Blanc
>>> 2 drops of absinthe
>> ^^^^^^^^
>>
>> That's not going to be viable for people living in America, Australia,
>> France &tc.
>>
>> How does it taste?
>
> We have Pernod which is a pretty close match I am told. It's a pretty
> lively drink. Potent, too. It has a lot of flavors and is anything
> but dead. For me it is a good reason to keep on living.

Curiously an enterprising bartender made me one two weeks ago. I said
I wanted a gin drink but the rest was up to him. He knows I drink my
martini with Lillet instead of vermouth. It was really good. No
licorice taste in it though.

On 31/12/13 20:26, gtr wrote:

> On 2013-12-31 14:40:05 +0000, White Spirit said:

>> On 31/12/2013 13:43, Paul M. Cook wrote:

>>> Ingredients:

>>> 2 oz Gin
>>> 2 oz Fresh Lemon Juice
>>> 2 oz Cointreau
>>> 2 oz Lillet Blanc
>>> 2 drops of absinthe

>> That's not going to be viable for people living in America, Australia,
>> France &tc.

>> How does it taste?

> You must have missed how in 2004 they began legalizing absinthe again.
> In 2007 in the US, St. George began manufacturing it here in the US.
> There are many distillers for it here and world wide.

Actually, you will find that the 'absinthe' manufactured and sold in the
USA is not real absinthe:

http://absinthe.msjekyll.com/usa.shtml

In France, it is legal to distil for export only.

I knew someone would reply and get it horribly wrong

On 31/12/13 21:48, notbob wrote:

> Absinthe has been legal in the US since 2007, although it must have a low
> thujone content.

That means that every brand of genuine absinthe is still banned and
special versions have to be produced for the American market that don't
use authentic recipes.

In other words, absinthe is still banned because you are not allowed to
buy real absinthe.

On 2014-01-01, White Spirit > wrote:

> use authentic recipes.

> buy real absinthe.

As I implied, the whole wormwood debate is highly questionable. I
would say 75% abv is much more likely to spark hallucinations than
thujone, favorite hobgoblin of absinthe freaks. Ask any DT veteran.

"For example, sage and sage oil (which can be up to 50% thujone) are
on the Food and Drug Administration's list of substances generally
recognized as safe."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thujone

If it tastes like anise, I'll drink it. If it tastes like licorice, I
won't. IOW, much ado about nothing.

nb

On 2014-01-01 14:46:27 +0000, White Spirit said:

> On 31/12/13 21:48, notbob wrote:
>
>> Absinthe has been legal in the US since 2007, although it must have a low
>> thujone content.
>
> That means that every brand of genuine absinthe is still banned and
> special versions have to be produced for the American market that don't
> use authentic recipes.
>
> In other words, absinthe is still banned because you are not allowed to
> buy real absinthe.

And the difference of two drops in a cocktail is...?

On 01/01/14 15:14, notbob wrote:

> On 2014-01-01, White Spirit > wrote:

>> use authentic recipes.

>> buy real absinthe.

> As I implied, the whole wormwood debate is highly questionable.

I wouldn't say so and nor does any serious absinthe drinker I know of.
It's like calling decaffeinated coffee 'real coffee'.

> I
> would say 75% abv is much more likely to spark hallucinations than
> thujone, favorite hobgoblin of absinthe freaks. Ask any DT veteran.

That isn't known for certain either way but the wormwood certainly
impacts the flavour.

> "For example, sage and sage oil (which can be up to 50% thujone) are
> on the Food and Drug Administration's list of substances generally
> recognized as safe."

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thujone

> If it tastes like anise, I'll drink it. If it tastes like licorice, I
> won't. IOW, much ado about nothing.

Authenticity is very important. I wouldn't buy a fake Zippo lighter,
for example.

On 01/01/14 16:11, gtr wrote:

> On 2014-01-01 14:46:27 +0000, White Spirit said:

>> On 31/12/13 21:48, notbob wrote:

>>> Absinthe has been legal in the US since 2007, although it must have a
>>> low
>>> thujone content.

>> That means that every brand of genuine absinthe is still banned and
>> special versions have to be produced for the American market that
>> don't use authentic recipes.

>> In other words, absinthe is still banned because you are not allowed
>> to buy real absinthe.

> And the difference of two drops in a cocktail is...?

That's why specifying a liquor that is banned in certain jurisdictions
is very silly. I agree in that the recipe would be much better stating
pastis, raki or ouzo.

On 2014-01-01, White Spirit > wrote:

> I wouldn't say so and nor does any serious absinthe drinker I know of.

Of course not. Doesn't jive with the myth.

> Authenticity is very important. I wouldn't buy a fake Zippo lighter,
> for example.

Again with the mythology. Park lighters (defunct) were made in
Murphreesboro TN (I once lived there). Looked/worked exactly like a
Zippo, but case was aluminum instead of steel. Except for the metal,
almost identical construction, exact same windproofness, exact same
guarantee. Yet, while Zippos were going for $8-$10, Park lighters
cost a buck. Where they durable? See for yourself. Plenty of 'em on
ebay.

nb

On 01/01/14 18:53, notbob wrote:

> On 2014-01-01, White Spirit > wrote:

>> I wouldn't say so and nor does any serious absinthe drinker I know of.

> Of course not. Doesn't jive with the myth.

It's about the flavour.

>> Authenticity is very important. I wouldn't buy a fake Zippo lighter,
>> for example.

> Again with the mythology. Park lighters (defunct) were made in
> Murphreesboro TN (I once lived there). Looked/worked exactly like a
> Zippo, but case was aluminum instead of steel. Except for the metal,
> almost identical construction, exact same windproofness, exact same
> guarantee. Yet, while Zippos were going for $8-$10, Park lighters
> cost a buck. Where they durable? See for yourself. Plenty of 'em on
> ebay.

It's nothing to do with mythology and a Park isn't a fake Zippo.

On 2014-01-01, White Spirit > wrote:

> It's nothing to do with mythology.....

Green Fairies.... highly ritualistic prep.... Sure, no mythology.

> ....and a Park isn't a fake Zippo.

I claimed it was, where?

nb

On 01/01/2014 23:43, notbob wrote:

> On 2014-01-01, White Spirit > wrote:

>> It's nothing to do with mythology.....

> Green Fairies.... highly ritualistic prep.... Sure, no mythology.

I said that the importance of wormwood is nothing to do with mythology,
not that no mythology exists where absinthe is concerned. Much of that
mythology is an invention of Hollywood, including the 'ritualistic'
preparation, which did not occur historically.

>> ....and a Park isn't a fake Zippo.

> I claimed it was, where?

If you're not claiming that a Park is a fake Zippo, why bring up Park in
response to a comment about fake Zippo lighters? Of course, the fact
that you snipped the context demonstrates that you realiesd your mistake
but didn't want to admit it.

White Spirit > wrote:

[of absinthe]
> In France, it is legal to distil for export only.

Why do you think so? There are numerous absinthe producers in France,
producing mostly for the domestic market. Their products can be found
in most any supermarket there, not to speak of wine and liquor stores.
Here is an example, a little shop at Pl. du Marché Ste-Catherine, in
Paris, specialising only in absinthe, its paraphernalia and its
literature. There are numerous brands of absinthe offered, most of them
French, with only a few imported from Germany and Switzerland. I was
there a year ago.

<http://www.vertdabsinthe.com/content/blogcategory/139/184/>

Victor

On 02/01/14 22:07, Victor Sack wrote:

> White Spirit > wrote:

> [of absinthe]
>> In France, it is legal to distil for export only.

> Why do you think so? There are numerous absinthe producers in France,
> producing mostly for the domestic market. Their products can be found
> in most any supermarket there, not to speak of wine and liquor stores.
> Here is an example, a little shop at Pl. du Marché Ste-Catherine, in
> Paris, specialising only in absinthe, its paraphernalia and its
> literature. There are numerous brands of absinthe offered, most of them
> French, with only a few imported from Germany and Switzerland. I was
> there a year ago.

Yes, apparently it has been legal again since mid-2011.