"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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> On 1/4/2014 8:13 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't like them either, and never watch them because they don't
>> interest me. I watch very little of the CC or FN anymore, but it seems
>> when I do turn it on, there is some contest/race against time going on.
>> I do like a few shows but if I had my choice, it would be PBS and the
>> cooking shows that used to show on Saturday.
>
> Bring back the Frugal Gourmet. At least I learned about cooking from him.

I did love him but... After those allegations, I don't think anyone will
show his reruns. I was very fond of his assistant, even though I can't
remember his name. Now I am confused. Tried to look it up and someone said
Cliff Smith. Another person said it wasn't Smith. Still another said Craig
and Craig sounds familiar. But still another says Craig is now a counselor
for abused kids.

I know there were allegations but was anything ever proven? And I hope that
Craig (if that was his name) was not abused. I am just even more confused
now!

I also loved the Two Hot Tamales and that one older guy who was a Cajun
chef. He was funny!

"Cheri" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 1/4/2014 8:13 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I don't like them either, and never watch them because they don't
>>> interest me. I watch very little of the CC or FN anymore, but it seems
>>> when I do turn it on, there is some contest/race against time going on.
>>> I do like a few shows but if I had my choice, it would be PBS and the
>>> cooking shows that used to show on Saturday.
>>
>> Bring back the Frugal Gourmet. At least I learned about cooking from
>> him.
>
> I liked the Frugal Gourmet.

His cookbook is one of the few that I have used for more than one recipe. I
still have it.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 00:11:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 1/4/2014 8:13 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I don't like them either, and never watch them because they don't
>> > interest me. I watch very little of the CC or FN anymore, but it seems
>> > when I do turn it on, there is some contest/race against time going on.
>> > I do like a few shows but if I had my choice, it would be PBS and the
>> > cooking shows that used to show on Saturday.
>>
>> Bring back the Frugal Gourmet. At least I learned about cooking from
>> him.
>
> Yes and the Galloping Gourmet (original series)). That said, I think
> Kelsey Nixon is an excellent cooking teacher for today's young viewer
> that wants to learn a thing or two. I have no suggestions for old
> goats who think they know everything. Maybe they put those
> competition shows on to stump the know it alls.

Oh the Galloping Gourmet is one of the few cooking shows my mom ever
watched! Loved it! His more recent show was good too but I liked the first
one better.

On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 21:37:04 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

> I remember Emeril's first show. He was so nervous he could not look into
> the camera. And he just sort of droned on.

Are you talking about the one when Julia Child introduced him to the
world?

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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:13:53 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 15:34:38 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree, both The Cooking Channel and Food Network have little of
>>>>> worth
>>>>> anymore IMO.
>>>>
>>>>I think some posters in rfc hate it when "everyone" can get a channel
>>>>and there is nothing left for an imagined "in crowd" to crow about.
>>>>
>>>>Just a tiny example: Before my city was wired for cable, there was a
>>>>lot of chatter here about how great FN was, people talking about
>>>>various shows (Barefoot Contessa for one), throwing the term EVOO
>>>>around like the latest high school slang word... and then it seemed
>>>>like as soon as my city was wired and I could figure out what everyone
>>>>was talking about, nobody had anything good to say about it anymore...
>>>>just a lot of snide remarks like that "of little worth" comment. They
>>>>have a lot of worth, I just don't like competitions and fake reality
>>>>shows crowding out real cooking content.
>>>>
>>>>In fact, I think Dancing with the Stars, Duck Dynasty, The Voice etc
>>>>are trash television and yet somebody seems to like them.
>>>
>>> I had been going to respond to your first post that you had started
>>> another belly-aching thread for the habitues. I also was going to say
>>> that the channels have some worth and figured I'd get slammed for that
>>> by those that have nothing to learn. But, what the hell. Take it
>>> that I did respond such. )
>>> Janet US
>>
>> So, what else is new? Everyone gets slammed no matter what their opinion
>> is on any subject. It's the way it is here.
>
> I completely disagree with that!

Well then you are WRONG! No doubt about that.

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 21:37:04 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>> I remember Emeril's first show. He was so nervous he could not look into
>> the camera. And he just sort of droned on.
>
> Are you talking about the one when Julia Child introduced him to the
> world?
>

That came later. On the nascent Food TV he had a boring show with no set,
just a fridge behind him. He hardly ever looked up at the camera and spoke
in a monotone voice. It was a couple years later he was the over the top
flamboyant chef Julia took to the cleaners.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:13:53 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 15:34:38 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree, both The Cooking Channel and Food Network have little of
>>>>>> worth
>>>>>> anymore IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think some posters in rfc hate it when "everyone" can get a channel
>>>>>and there is nothing left for an imagined "in crowd" to crow about.
>>>>>
>>>>>Just a tiny example: Before my city was wired for cable, there was a
>>>>>lot of chatter here about how great FN was, people talking about
>>>>>various shows (Barefoot Contessa for one), throwing the term EVOO
>>>>>around like the latest high school slang word... and then it seemed
>>>>>like as soon as my city was wired and I could figure out what everyone
>>>>>was talking about, nobody had anything good to say about it anymore...
>>>>>just a lot of snide remarks like that "of little worth" comment. They
>>>>>have a lot of worth, I just don't like competitions and fake reality
>>>>>shows crowding out real cooking content.
>>>>>
>>>>>In fact, I think Dancing with the Stars, Duck Dynasty, The Voice etc
>>>>>are trash television and yet somebody seems to like them.
>>>>
>>>> I had been going to respond to your first post that you had started
>>>> another belly-aching thread for the habitues. I also was going to say
>>>> that the channels have some worth and figured I'd get slammed for that
>>>> by those that have nothing to learn. But, what the hell. Take it
>>>> that I did respond such. )
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> So, what else is new? Everyone gets slammed no matter what their opinion
>>> is on any subject. It's the way it is here.
>>
>> I completely disagree with that!
>
> Well then you are WRONG! No doubt about that.

You can't boil water and your fridge smells like cat box!


>

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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> On 1/4/2014 8:13 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't like them either, and never watch them because they don't
>> interest me. I watch very little of the CC or FN anymore, but it seems
>> when I do turn it on, there is some contest/race against time going on.
>> I do like a few shows but if I had my choice, it would be PBS and the
>> cooking shows that used to show on Saturday.
>
> Bring back the Frugal Gourmet. At least I learned about cooking from him.
>

Oh lord <eyes rolling>

Must ... resist ... must ... resist

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
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>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:13:53 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 15:34:38 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree, both The Cooking Channel and Food Network have little of
>>>>>>> worth
>>>>>>> anymore IMO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think some posters in rfc hate it when "everyone" can get a channel
>>>>>>and there is nothing left for an imagined "in crowd" to crow about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just a tiny example: Before my city was wired for cable, there was a
>>>>>>lot of chatter here about how great FN was, people talking about
>>>>>>various shows (Barefoot Contessa for one), throwing the term EVOO
>>>>>>around like the latest high school slang word... and then it seemed
>>>>>>like as soon as my city was wired and I could figure out what everyone
>>>>>>was talking about, nobody had anything good to say about it anymore...
>>>>>>just a lot of snide remarks like that "of little worth" comment. They
>>>>>>have a lot of worth, I just don't like competitions and fake reality
>>>>>>shows crowding out real cooking content.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In fact, I think Dancing with the Stars, Duck Dynasty, The Voice etc
>>>>>>are trash television and yet somebody seems to like them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had been going to respond to your first post that you had started
>>>>> another belly-aching thread for the habitues. I also was going to say
>>>>> that the channels have some worth and figured I'd get slammed for that
>>>>> by those that have nothing to learn. But, what the hell. Take it
>>>>> that I did respond such. )
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> So, what else is new? Everyone gets slammed no matter what their
>>>> opinion is on any subject. It's the way it is here.
>>>
>>> I completely disagree with that!
>>
>> Well then you are WRONG! No doubt about that.
>
> You can't boil water and your fridge smells like cat box!

OMG! A peeping and sniffing Tom!

On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 22:56:42 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Cheri" > wrote in message
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>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 1/4/2014 8:13 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't like them either, and never watch them because they don't
>>>> interest me. I watch very little of the CC or FN anymore, but it seems
>>>> when I do turn it on, there is some contest/race against time going on.
>>>> I do like a few shows but if I had my choice, it would be PBS and the
>>>> cooking shows that used to show on Saturday.
>>>
>>> Bring back the Frugal Gourmet. At least I learned about cooking from
>>> him.
>>
>> I liked the Frugal Gourmet.
>
>His cookbook is one of the few that I have used for more than one recipe. I
>still have it.

Which one of his 9 cookbooks do you have?
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
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"The Cook" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 22:56:42 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 1/4/2014 8:13 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't like them either, and never watch them because they don't
>>>>> interest me. I watch very little of the CC or FN anymore, but it seems
>>>>> when I do turn it on, there is some contest/race against time going
>>>>> on.
>>>>> I do like a few shows but if I had my choice, it would be PBS and the
>>>>> cooking shows that used to show on Saturday.
>>>>
>>>> Bring back the Frugal Gourmet. At least I learned about cooking from
>>>> him.
>>>
>>> I liked the Frugal Gourmet.
>>
>>His cookbook is one of the few that I have used for more than one recipe.
>>I
>>still have it.
>
> Which one of his 9 cookbooks do you have?

Not sure the name but it has goulash and rice e bisi in it.

On 1/5/2014 3:21 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "sf" > wrote

>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 21:37:04 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I remember Emeril's first show. He was so nervous he could not look into
>>> the camera. And he just sort of droned on.
>>
>> Are you talking about the one when Julia Child introduced him to the
>> world?
>>
>
> That came later. On the nascent Food TV he had a boring show with no set,
> just a fridge behind him. He hardly ever looked up at the camera and spoke
> in a monotone voice. It was a couple years later he was the over the top
> flamboyant chef Julia took to the cleaners.
>
>
Was he the first How to Boil Water chef/host/whatever? I didn't
have FN then.

nancy

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2014010417481917470-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2014-01-05 01:13:59 +0000, Cheri said:
>
>> but it seems when I do turn it on, there is some contest/race against
>> time going on.
>
> I like Top Chef and the Masters version, and always have. When they spend
> too much time on who hates who and a truly idiotic challenge it's
> wearisome. But it's true that making every cooking show some kind of
> competition actually *detracts* from the cooking part of the show.
>
> Competition I can get in ball sports.

I agree! I much prefer a real cook discussing food and sharing good
recipes.

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 1/4/2014 8:13 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I don't like them either, and never watch them because they don't
>>> interest me. I watch very little of the CC or FN anymore, but it seems
>>> when I do turn it on, there is some contest/race against time going on.
>>> I do like a few shows but if I had my choice, it would be PBS and the
>>> cooking shows that used to show on Saturday.
>>
>> Bring back the Frugal Gourmet. At least I learned about cooking from
>> him.
>
> I did love him but... After those allegations, I don't think anyone will
> show his reruns. I was very fond of his assistant, even though I
> can't remember his name. Now I am confused. Tried to look it up and
> someone said Cliff Smith. Another person said it wasn't Smith. Still
> another said Craig and Craig sounds familiar. But still another says
> Craig is now a counselor for abused kids.
>

Craig Wollam.

> I know there were allegations but was anything ever proven? And I hope
> that Craig (if that was his name) was not abused. I am just even more
> confused now!

The Frug was a pompous ass who asted [premium ingredients and then boasted
of being frugal. He was all about "Yeeewwwwww won't like this but
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII love it."

a-hole.

> I also loved the Two Hot Tamales and that one older guy who was a Cajun
> chef. He was funny!

Yeah, they were cool. Justin Wilson was the Cajun chef. I garontee.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 00:11:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/4/2014 8:13 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > I don't like them either, and never watch them because they don't
>>> > interest me. I watch very little of the CC or FN anymore, but it seems
>>> > when I do turn it on, there is some contest/race against time going
>>> > on.
>>> > I do like a few shows but if I had my choice, it would be PBS and the
>>> > cooking shows that used to show on Saturday.
>>>
>>> Bring back the Frugal Gourmet. At least I learned about cooking from
>>> him.
>>
>> Yes and the Galloping Gourmet (original series)). That said, I think
>> Kelsey Nixon is an excellent cooking teacher for today's young viewer
>> that wants to learn a thing or two. I have no suggestions for old
>> goats who think they know everything. Maybe they put those
>> competition shows on to stump the know it alls.
>
> Oh the Galloping Gourmet is one of the few cooking shows my mom ever
> watched! Loved it! His more recent show was good too but I liked the
> first one better.

I used to love him too but not seen him for years.

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On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 00:21:45 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> news
> > On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 21:37:04 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I remember Emeril's first show. He was so nervous he could not look into
> >> the camera. And he just sort of droned on.
> >
> > Are you talking about the one when Julia Child introduced him to the
> > world?
> >
>
> That came later. On the nascent Food TV he had a boring show with no set,
> just a fridge behind him. He hardly ever looked up at the camera and spoke
> in a monotone voice. It was a couple years later he was the over the top
> flamboyant chef Julia took to the cleaners.
>
What came later? Cable hadn't been invented when the show I'm
thinking of was on.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 1/4/2014 7:13 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 15:34:38 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I agree, both The Cooking Channel and Food Network have little of worth
>> anymore IMO.
>
> I think some posters in rfc hate it when "everyone" can get a channel
> and there is nothing left for an imagined "in crowd" to crow about.
>
> Just a tiny example: Before my city was wired for cable, there was a
> lot of chatter here about how great FN was, people talking about
> various shows (Barefoot Contessa for one), throwing the term EVOO
> around like the latest high school slang word... and then it seemed
> like as soon as my city was wired and I could figure out what everyone
> was talking about, nobody had anything good to say about it anymore...
> just a lot of snide remarks like that "of little worth" comment. They
> have a lot of worth, I just don't like competitions and fake reality
> shows crowding out real cooking content.
>
> In fact, I think Dancing with the Stars, Duck Dynasty, The Voice etc
> are trash television and yet somebody seems to like them.
>
Someone must be watching that crap because it's everywhere. I don't
even know who those dancing "stars" are. Duck Dynasty... apparently
all you have to do to get a TV show these days is act like a redneck.

Jill

Top Chef and TC Masters are all on Bravo, not the FN or Cooking Channel.

N.

On 2014-01-04 8:13 PM, Cheri wrote:

> I don't like them either, and never watch them because they don't
> interest me. I watch very little of the CC or FN anymore, but it seems
> when I do turn it on, there is some contest/race against time going on.
> I do like a few shows but if I had my choice, it would be PBS and the
> cooking shows that used to show on Saturday. To say that they have
> "little worth" is not a snide comment, it means that they have little
> worth to me, whereas they might be the end all and be all to you. <Shrug>
>

They aren't just timed events and competitions. Most of them have
adopted some of the worst aspects of "reality" shows, but sticking in a
bunch of drama queens. There is usually someone whose mother or sister
has just died and they fake a few teats while saying they are going to
win it to make their recently deceased proud of them.

I used to like the dinner party shows until the contestants got too
weird, snooping through peoples closets and learning that they are cross
dressers and crap like that. In one show there was a contestant who had
never cooked before. Rather than bombing and being taken off the air,
there were clones of the show.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I agree! I much prefer a real cook discussing food and sharing good
> recipes.

My 2 favorite shows are the PBS ones "Cook's County" and the other
one....both with that same guy with the bowtie. Those are good. On
Saturdays at 10-11am here.

Older good ones that I don't see any more we
- Emeril
- Great Chefs
- Wan Can Cook

G.

On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 09:48:31 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> - Wan Can Cook

YAN Can Cook. He's quite the entertainer and was my DD's favorite TV
cook when she was little. She started noticing him when she was 2 or
3 and he became appointment television for her every weekend.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

sf wrote:
>
> On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 09:48:31 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> > - Wan Can Cook
>
> YAN Can Cook. He's quite the entertainer and was my DD's favorite TV
> cook when she was little. She started noticing him when she was 2 or
> 3 and he became appointment television for her every weekend.

Thanks for the correction. It's been YEARS since I've seen that show.
I did see him about a year ago as a judge on "Iron Chef" and as
always, he was funny.

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> I agree! I much prefer a real cook discussing food and sharing good
>> recipes.
>
> My 2 favorite shows are the PBS ones "Cook's County" and the other
> one....both with that same guy with the bowtie. Those are good. On
> Saturdays at 10-11am here.

New to me


>
> Older good ones that I don't see any more we
> - Emeril
> - Great Chefs
> - Wan Can Cook

Not seen those. Probably a 'good' thing

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On 2014-01-05 14:54:57 +0000, sf said:

> On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 09:48:31 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> - Wan Can Cook
>
> YAN Can Cook. He's quite the entertainer and was my DD's favorite TV
> cook when she was little. She started noticing him when she was 2 or
> 3 and he became appointment television for her every weekend.

I bought a wok and got very into it in the mid-80's as a result of Yan.

On 2014-01-05 14:29:15 +0000, Nancy2 said:

> Top Chef and TC Masters are all on Bravo, not the FN or Cooking Channel.

I mentioned them as significant references to cooking-as-competition. I
think they were the earliest and most successful, and inspired the
conversion of many other shows: "So you think you can cook" and "so you
want to be a FN star" and "world's worst cook" and some of that other
claptrap.

I liked another competitive show "The Restaurant" (I gather from a wiki
article) from Britain that featured a French cook, Raymond Blanc as the
MC/judge. I thought it was named something else when it appeared in
the US.

Anyway, in this competition a couple are given an opportunity to open
their own restaurant and are slowly "voted off the island" by their
performance. The winner gets to open a restaurant with Blanc. It was
damned interesting, though much of the interest had to do with the
machinations involved with running a restaurant: Purchasing, effective
use of resources, menu planning, efficiency of service, and making a
profit. Very little could be said to be about cooking, per se.

It was damned entertaining, but after a while the competition were so
hapless and incompetent, as with several seasons of Hell's Kitchen,
that the show didn't really offer anything of value regarding either
cooking or rooting for a particular participant.

I play guitar and other musical instruments and when I'm not actually
playing, I like reading books about music, pursuing repertoire, reading
guitar methods, learning unrelated instruments, and other "non-playing"
type stuff. I think it helps keep my mind in that world even when I'm
not doing it per se. Similarly I like shows that *relate to cooking*
even though they are not recipe production shows.

That said, many of these shows are pitiful by any measure of entertainment.

On 2014-01-05 02:16:56 +0000, pltrgyst said:

> On 1/4/14, 7:36 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>> It's one of the shows that was first broadcast and got FN started.
>
> Not really. The earliest shows included David Rosengarten's "Taste",

That was the show that really got me and my new bride excited about
cooking, about eating and and about pursuing interesting food. For us,
a watershed moment.

> ...a show with a wine guy whose name escapes me and a woman named Dina,
> and Ready, Set, Cook (based on the UK's Ready, Steady, Cook), IMO the
> best show they ever had until Alton Brown came along.
>
> The Japanese Iron Chef came several years later. I still have the book
> -- does anyone else?

Not I.

On 2014-01-05 05:11:18 +0000, Ed Pawlowski said:

> On 1/4/2014 8:13 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't like them either, and never watch them because they don't
>> interest me. I watch very little of the CC or FN anymore, but it seems
>> when I do turn it on, there is some contest/race against time going on.
>> I do like a few shows but if I had my choice, it would be PBS and the
>> cooking shows that used to show on Saturday.
>
> Bring back the Frugal Gourmet. At least I learned about cooking from him.

We were cooking from one of his books this weekend.

On 2014-01-05 12:53:35 +0000, Paul M. Cook said:

>> I also loved the Two Hot Tamales and that one older guy who was a Cajun
>> chef. He was funny!
>
> Yeah, they were cool. Justin Wilson was the Cajun chef. I garontee.

We like the THT too. As a result we went to one of Feniger's
restaurants, Border Grill. She shmoozed at the tables and my wife asked
her where she could buy a good carbon steel knife. She told us about
an obscure place, a tiny hardware store actually, in Japan town where
we could buy one for a reasonable price (mid-90's). We still use it.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 00:21:45 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 21:37:04 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I remember Emeril's first show. He was so nervous he could not look
>> >> into
>> >> the camera. And he just sort of droned on.
>> >
>> > Are you talking about the one when Julia Child introduced him to the
>> > world?
>> >
>>
>> That came later. On the nascent Food TV he had a boring show with no
>> set,
>> just a fridge behind him. He hardly ever looked up at the camera and
>> spoke
>> in a monotone voice. It was a couple years later he was the over the top
>> flamboyant chef Julia took to the cleaners.
>>
> What came later? Cable hadn't been invented when the show I'm
> thinking of was on.


He's not that old. I believe I first saw him around maybe 1996 or so. And
it was the very early days of Food TV when they had no budget to speak of.
Back then they mostly played reruns of Julia Child and Graham Kerr. I
remember they were so desperate they had a nobody cooking instructor on
doing a French pastry show with a Swizz guest chef who looke dlike he just
got off the plane. The "host" kept butting in and trying to add ingredients
and the chef kept batting his hand away. It was hilarious.



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On 1/5/2014 12:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 1/4/2014 8:13 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't like them either, and never watch them because they don't
>>>> interest me. I watch very little of the CC or FN anymore, but it seems
>>>> when I do turn it on, there is some contest/race against time going on.
>>>> I do like a few shows but if I had my choice, it would be PBS and the
>>>> cooking shows that used to show on Saturday.
>>>
>>> Bring back the Frugal Gourmet. At least I learned about cooking from
>>> him.
>>
>> I liked the Frugal Gourmet.
>
> His cookbook is one of the few that I have used for more than one
> recipe. I still have it.

I have his "Frugal Gourmet Cooks American" and it's not just a great
cookbook, it's a great, but brief, history of American regional cooking.

--
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Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

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On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 11:39:40 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 00:21:45 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> news > >> > On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 21:37:04 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I remember Emeril's first show. He was so nervous he could not look
> >> >> into
> >> >> the camera. And he just sort of droned on.
> >> >
> >> > Are you talking about the one when Julia Child introduced him to the
> >> > world?
> >> >
> >>
> >> That came later. On the nascent Food TV he had a boring show with no
> >> set,
> >> just a fridge behind him. He hardly ever looked up at the camera and
> >> spoke
> >> in a monotone voice. It was a couple years later he was the over the top
> >> flamboyant chef Julia took to the cleaners.
> >>
> > What came later? Cable hadn't been invented when the show I'm
> > thinking of was on.
>
>
> He's not that old. I believe I first saw him around maybe 1996 or so.

The earliest show I remember that featured him was on PBS in 1993. It
was over the airwaves because my city wasn't wired for cable back then
(why it took so long when all the surrounding areas had it, I don't
know). In any case, he made Shrimp etouffee and a Louisiana crab &
crawfish boil. I remember it because I'd never heard of etouffee
before and I'd never seen a propane burner like that.
http://video.pbs.org/video/1094273768/

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On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 13:53:00 -0600, Janet Wilder >
wrote:

> I have his "Frugal Gourmet Cooks American" and it's not just a great
> cookbook, it's a great, but brief, history of American regional cooking.

I have five of his cookbooks. I'm pretty sure I'm missing at least
one, but I bought what I was interested in owning and ended up with a
collection - not because I'd set out to, it just ended up that way.
--

"Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans"
(Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011)

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 11:39:40 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 00:21:45 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>> >> news >> >> > On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 21:37:04 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I remember Emeril's first show. He was so nervous he could not
>> >> >> look
>> >> >> into
>> >> >> the camera. And he just sort of droned on.
>> >> >
>> >> > Are you talking about the one when Julia Child introduced him to the
>> >> > world?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> That came later. On the nascent Food TV he had a boring show with no
>> >> set,
>> >> just a fridge behind him. He hardly ever looked up at the camera and
>> >> spoke
>> >> in a monotone voice. It was a couple years later he was the over the
>> >> top
>> >> flamboyant chef Julia took to the cleaners.
>> >>
>> > What came later? Cable hadn't been invented when the show I'm
>> > thinking of was on.
>>
>>
>> He's not that old. I believe I first saw him around maybe 1996 or so.
>
> The earliest show I remember that featured him was on PBS in 1993. It
> was over the airwaves because my city wasn't wired for cable back then
> (why it took so long when all the surrounding areas had it, I don't
> know). In any case, he made Shrimp etouffee and a Louisiana crab &
> crawfish boil. I remember it because I'd never heard of etouffee
> before and I'd never seen a propane burner like that.
> http://video.pbs.org/video/1094273768/


Great Chefs of New Orleans was a show that preceded Laggasse. That was
probably mid 90s.



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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 00:11:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 1/4/2014 8:13 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I don't like them either, and never watch them because they don't
>> > interest me. I watch very little of the CC or FN anymore, but it seems
>> > when I do turn it on, there is some contest/race against time going on.
>> > I do like a few shows but if I had my choice, it would be PBS and the
>> > cooking shows that used to show on Saturday.
>>
>> Bring back the Frugal Gourmet. At least I learned about cooking from
>> him.
>
> Yes and the Galloping Gourmet (original series)). That said, I think
> Kelsey Nixon is an excellent cooking teacher for today's young viewer
> that wants to learn a thing or two. I have no suggestions for old
> goats who think they know everything. Maybe they put those
> competition shows on to stump the know it alls.

Real know it alls wouldn't be watching any of these shows. Why would they? I
like Kelsey Nixon the few times I've seen her show.

Cheri

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/5/2014 3:21 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "sf" > wrote
>
>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 21:37:04 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I remember Emeril's first show. He was so nervous he could not look
>>>> into
>>>> the camera. And he just sort of droned on.
>>>
>>> Are you talking about the one when Julia Child introduced him to the
>>> world?
>>>
>>
>> That came later. On the nascent Food TV he had a boring show with no
>> set,
>> just a fridge behind him. He hardly ever looked up at the camera and
>> spoke
>> in a monotone voice. It was a couple years later he was the over the top
>> flamboyant chef Julia took to the cleaners.
>>
>>
> Was he the first How to Boil Water chef/host/whatever? I didn't
> have FN then.

I didn't know there was more than one host.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> I agree! I much prefer a real cook discussing food and sharing good
>> recipes.
>
> My 2 favorite shows are the PBS ones "Cook's County" and the other
> one....both with that same guy with the bowtie. Those are good. On
> Saturdays at 10-11am here.
>
> Older good ones that I don't see any more we
> - Emeril
> - Great Chefs
> - Wan Can Cook

I thought it was Yan?

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 1/4/2014 8:13 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't like them either, and never watch them because they don't
>>>> interest me. I watch very little of the CC or FN anymore, but it seems
>>>> when I do turn it on, there is some contest/race against time going on.
>>>> I do like a few shows but if I had my choice, it would be PBS and the
>>>> cooking shows that used to show on Saturday.
>>>
>>> Bring back the Frugal Gourmet. At least I learned about cooking from
>>> him.
>>
>> I did love him but... After those allegations, I don't think anyone will
>> show his reruns. I was very fond of his assistant, even though I
>> can't remember his name. Now I am confused. Tried to look it up and
>> someone said Cliff Smith. Another person said it wasn't Smith. Still
>> another said Craig and Craig sounds familiar. But still another says
>> Craig is now a counselor for abused kids.
>>
>
> Craig Wollam.
>
>> I know there were allegations but was anything ever proven? And I hope
>> that Craig (if that was his name) was not abused. I am just even more
>> confused now!
>
> The Frug was a pompous ass who asted [premium ingredients and then boasted
> of being frugal. He was all about "Yeeewwwwww won't like this but
> IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII love it."
>
> a-hole.

Oh. Thanks!
>
>> I also loved the Two Hot Tamales and that one older guy who was a Cajun
>> chef. He was funny!
>
> Yeah, they were cool. Justin Wilson was the Cajun chef. I garontee.

Ah, yes!

It
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree! I much prefer a real cook discussing food and sharing good
>>> recipes.
>>
>> My 2 favorite shows are the PBS ones "Cook's County" and the other
>> one....both with that same guy with the bowtie. Those are good. On
>> Saturdays at 10-11am here.
>>
>> Older good ones that I don't see any more we
>> - Emeril
>> - Great Chefs
>> - Wan Can Cook
>
> I thought it was Yan?

It is Yan. I have a couple of his cookbooks.

Cheri

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 00:21:45 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 21:37:04 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I remember Emeril's first show. He was so nervous he could not look
>> >> into
>> >> the camera. And he just sort of droned on.
>> >
>> > Are you talking about the one when Julia Child introduced him to the
>> > world?
>> >
>>
>> That came later. On the nascent Food TV he had a boring show with no
>> set,
>> just a fridge behind him. He hardly ever looked up at the camera and
>> spoke
>> in a monotone voice. It was a couple years later he was the over the top
>> flamboyant chef Julia took to the cleaners.
>>
> What came later? Cable hadn't been invented when the show I'm
> thinking of was on.

Cable wasn't invented then? We had cable when I was 8! So like 46 years it
was around. Was the show older than that?

On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 12:15:19 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 13:53:00 -0600, Janet Wilder >
>wrote:
>
>> I have his "Frugal Gourmet Cooks American" and it's not just a great
>> cookbook, it's a great, but brief, history of American regional cooking.
>
>I have five of his cookbooks. I'm pretty sure I'm missing at least
>one, but I bought what I was interested in owning and ended up with a
>collection - not because I'd set out to, it just ended up that way.

I have 9 of his books.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)