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"James Silverton" > wrote in message
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> One problem at TJ's is that they tend to discontinue without explanation
> some things that are very good. A recent example has been various fruit
> preserves. One thing that I kind of like is being able to buy fruit like
> bananas at a price for each. I suppose it must reflect the overfishing of
> the oceans but the fish department is much smaller than ten years ago.


Yes. They've done that to me many times. But so has Costco.

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On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 21:23:25 -0500, James Silverton
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> One problem at TJ's is that they tend to discontinue without explanation
> some things that are very good. A recent example has been various fruit
> preserves. One thing that I kind of like is being able to buy fruit like
> bananas at a price for each. I suppose it must reflect the overfishing
> of the oceans but the fish department is much smaller than ten years ago.


I haven't experienced that sort of product insecurity at Trader Joe's
in decades, but I wouldn't have a problem with that because that's how
they were in the beginning. You didn't know from one day to another
what they'd have in the store. I loved it that way. Wish it wasn't
so predictable now, but people with attitudes like yours have forced
them to be like every other *boring* grocery store.

Shoot, TJ's is much more predictable than Costco... which (IMO)
changes products as often as you change your underwear.


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On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 2:31:47 PM UTC-5, Susan wrote:
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> I love their pre brined organic chickens, frozen wild caught Alaskan
> fish, flax and soy chips, sweet and spicy pecans, and organic mayo,
> which comes in glass, not plastic. Except for an occasional cheese
> purchase, that's pretty much all I buy there.
>
> Susan


What's a "pre brined organic chicken"?

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> What's a "pre brined organic chicken"?


Something you don't want to waste your money on. hahaha

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Julie Bove wrote:
> We stopped in there yesterday just to see if there was something of
> interest. Nope. Actually my mom needed to go into a store in the
> same strip mall and we didn't need to go in there. So we went to
> TJs. The place was packed but I just don't get it. Although I
> didn't look at each and every item, I really didn't see a thing that
> I couldn't get elsewhere. And their prices didn't seem any cheaper.
> Our TJs is quite small though. So it could be that there are others
> that sell more products than this one does.


I shop at three grocery stores on a regular basis. One is "normal" -
that's Stop 'n' Shop. The others are Whole Foods and TJ's.

Personally, I buy what I want from each, e.g., TJ's and WF have what
appears to me to be exactly the same bacon - packaging is nearly
identical - but it costs less at TJ's so we buy it there. Produce,
OTOH, is consistently fresher and higher quality at WF than at any other
grocery store chain I've ever been in. Cheese is very good, and much
less expensive, at TJ's so I don't buy cheese at WF, but I buy all my
deli meats at WF because they're fresh sliced and TJ's is only packaged
(and I like them sliced thin).

Stop 'n' Shop for me is for cat food, white bread, plastic bags, and a
few other things, and not much else.

Just my opinion, your choices will vary, but I don't think there's any
one grocery chain that has everything I want at prices I'm willing to
pay.

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:31:50 -0500, "Steve Freides" >
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> Just my opinion, your choices will vary, but I don't think there's any
> one grocery chain that has everything I want at prices I'm willing to
> pay.


I'm with you - thinking that there's more than one place I like to
shop and go to each one for different reasons and it's the reason why
I like the grocery shopping program (Out of Milk) Ophelia told me
about because I can make a list for each store and move items around
from list to list if I don't find it or it's too expensive where I'm
shopping at the moment.

Example of a good find: I found Smithfield brand Virginia ham deli
slices today at Grocery Outlet. Smithfield is a famous brand, but
I've never tried their deli sliced ham - aka: ham for the masses (or
even seen it) before. I've read their it isn't anything super
special, but you never know if you'll like it or not until you try it
and the motivating reason was cost: a 1 pound package for $2.48 cents.
I figured I can't lose at that price! If I don't like it for
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"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
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> Julie Bove wrote:
>> We stopped in there yesterday just to see if there was something of
>> interest. Nope. Actually my mom needed to go into a store in the
>> same strip mall and we didn't need to go in there. So we went to
>> TJs. The place was packed but I just don't get it. Although I
>> didn't look at each and every item, I really didn't see a thing that
>> I couldn't get elsewhere. And their prices didn't seem any cheaper. Our
>> TJs is quite small though. So it could be that there are others
>> that sell more products than this one does.

>
> I shop at three grocery stores on a regular basis. One is "normal" -
> that's Stop 'n' Shop. The others are Whole Foods and TJ's.
>
> Personally, I buy what I want from each, e.g., TJ's and WF have what
> appears to me to be exactly the same bacon - packaging is nearly
> identical - but it costs less at TJ's so we buy it there. Produce, OTOH,
> is consistently fresher and higher quality at WF than at any other grocery
> store chain I've ever been in. Cheese is very good, and much less
> expensive, at TJ's so I don't buy cheese at WF, but I buy all my deli
> meats at WF because they're fresh sliced and TJ's is only packaged (and I
> like them sliced thin).
>
> Stop 'n' Shop for me is for cat food, white bread, plastic bags, and a few
> other things, and not much else.
>
> Just my opinion, your choices will vary, but I don't think there's any one
> grocery chain that has everything I want at prices I'm willing to pay.


We had Stop and Shop on Cape Cod. I went there occasionally but I didn't
buy a lot.

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> On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:31:50 -0500, "Steve Freides" >
> wrote:
>
>> Just my opinion, your choices will vary, but I don't think there's
>> any one grocery chain that has everything I want at prices I'm
>> willing to pay.

>
> I'm with you - thinking that there's more than one place I like to
> shop and go to each one for different reasons and it's the reason why
> I like the grocery shopping program (Out of Milk) Ophelia told me
> about because I can make a list for each store and move items around
> from list to list if I don't find it or it's too expensive where I'm
> shopping at the moment.
>
> Example of a good find: I found Smithfield brand Virginia ham deli
> slices today at Grocery Outlet. Smithfield is a famous brand, but
> I've never tried their deli sliced ham - aka: ham for the masses (or
> even seen it) before. I've read their it isn't anything super
> special, but you never know if you'll like it or not until you try it
> and the motivating reason was cost: a 1 pound package for $2.48 cents.
> I figured I can't lose at that price! If I don't like it for
> sandwiches, it will be just fine in carbonara.


Our thing here is one grocery list but we "tag" each line with TJ, WF,
or SnS in the margin to make it easier to figure out what to get from
the list at each. Our list is on paper, usually the back of an envelope
or other scrap paper.

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On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 09:24:10 -0500, "Steve Freides" >
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> Our thing here is one grocery list but we "tag" each line with TJ, WF,
> or SnS in the margin to make it easier to figure out what to get from
> the list at each. Our list is on paper, usually the back of an envelope
> or other scrap paper.


I am not the type of person who can sit down to make a list just
before I go shopping. I need a running list that I add to as I run
low or am thinking about cooking and need to pick up a necessary item
when I'm in the store. So I used adding machine paper for that until
Ophelia turned me on to the Out of Milk app. It's easy to add
something to a list and move items from list to list if necessary... I
guess the app does more, but I haven't explored it deeply because
simple lists are all I need it to do for me.

I'm glad I have the app because adding machine paper is as scarce as
hen's teeth these days.


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> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 09:24:10 -0500, "Steve Freides" >
> wrote:
>
>> Our thing here is one grocery list but we "tag" each line with TJ, WF,
>> or SnS in the margin to make it easier to figure out what to get from
>> the list at each. Our list is on paper, usually the back of an envelope
>> or other scrap paper.

>
> I am not the type of person who can sit down to make a list just
> before I go shopping. I need a running list that I add to as I run
> low or am thinking about cooking and need to pick up a necessary item
> when I'm in the store. So I used adding machine paper for that until
> Ophelia turned me on to the Out of Milk app. It's easy to add
> something to a list and move items from list to list if necessary... I
> guess the app does more, but I haven't explored it deeply because
> simple lists are all I need it to do for me.
>
> I'm glad I have the app because adding machine paper is as scarce as
> hen's teeth these days.


I'm glad it works for you. I wouldn't be without mine


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On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:36:07 -0000, "Ophelia"
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>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> news
> >
> > I'm glad I have the app because adding machine paper is as scarce as
> > hen's teeth these days.

>
> I'm glad it works for you. I wouldn't be without mine


My only complaint is that my battery drains quickly when I use it.


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> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:36:07 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
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>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> news
>> >
>> > I'm glad I have the app because adding machine paper is as scarce as
>> > hen's teeth these days.

>>
>> I'm glad it works for you. I wouldn't be without mine

>
> My only complaint is that my battery drains quickly when I use it.


Oh I don't think mine does. I put it on charge every night anyway so
perhaps I don't notice.

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On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:08:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
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>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:36:07 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> news > >> >
> >> > I'm glad I have the app because adding machine paper is as scarce as
> >> > hen's teeth these days.
> >>
> >> I'm glad it works for you. I wouldn't be without mine

> >
> > My only complaint is that my battery drains quickly when I use it.

>
> Oh I don't think mine does. I put it on charge every night anyway so
> perhaps I don't notice.


I have to recharge my phone nightly too. Maybe I just notice the
battery going down because that's the most I use my phone at any one
time. Dunno. I like having a smart phone, Samsung is supposed to be
one of the better brands and I like this model because it's not a huge
one - I just don't like the battery life.


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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:08:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:36:07 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>> >> news >> >> >
>> >> > I'm glad I have the app because adding machine paper is as scarce as
>> >> > hen's teeth these days.
>> >>
>> >> I'm glad it works for you. I wouldn't be without mine
>> >
>> > My only complaint is that my battery drains quickly when I use it.

>>
>> Oh I don't think mine does. I put it on charge every night anyway so
>> perhaps I don't notice.

>
> I have to recharge my phone nightly too. Maybe I just notice the
> battery going down because that's the most I use my phone at any one
> time. Dunno. I like having a smart phone, Samsung is supposed to be
> one of the better brands and I like this model because it's not a huge
> one - I just don't like the battery life.


We are looking at new phones (we have Samsungs) He has been looking for
bigger ones and went on to a review site. The comments are really bad
Look he
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-cent...hones-of-2013/

Now he has a site which says they are ok
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/smart...to-buy-in-2014

Take your pick I suppose



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On 1/16/2014 2:55 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> We are looking at new phones (we have Samsungs) He has been looking for
> bigger ones and went on to a review site. The comments are really bad
> Look he
> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-cent...hones-of-2013/
>

They seem to like my new phone - the Nexus 5.
I like it, too! We bought them unlocked, from Google.


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> On 1/16/2014 2:55 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> We are looking at new phones (we have Samsungs) He has been looking for
>> bigger ones and went on to a review site. The comments are really bad
>> Look he
>> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-cent...hones-of-2013/
>>

> They seem to like my new phone - the Nexus 5.
> I like it, too! We bought them unlocked, from Google.


Ahh a recommendation! thanks. Oh btw, is it android?

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On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:13:34 -0000, "Ophelia"
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>
>
> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
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> > On 1/16/2014 2:55 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >> We are looking at new phones (we have Samsungs) He has been looking for
> >> bigger ones and went on to a review site. The comments are really bad
> >> Look he
> >> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-cent...hones-of-2013/
> >>

> > They seem to like my new phone - the Nexus 5.
> > I like it, too! We bought them unlocked, from Google.

>
> Ahh a recommendation! thanks. Oh btw, is it android?


Here's some reading for you
<http://www.ibtimes.com/nexus-5-vs-iphone-5s-depth-how-google-lgs-android-flagship-compares-apples-latest-benchmarks-camera>



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On 1/16/2014 3:13 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "S Viemeister" > wrote
>> On 1/16/2014 2:55 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> We are looking at new phones (we have Samsungs) He has been looking for
>>> bigger ones and went on to a review site. The comments are really
>>> bad
>>> Look he
>>> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-cent...hones-of-2013/
>>>

>> They seem to like my new phone - the Nexus 5.
>> I like it, too! We bought them unlocked, from Google.

>
> Ahh a recommendation! thanks. Oh btw, is it android?
>

Yes, it's Android, and getting it (unlocked) direct from Google, avoids
you being stuck with all the bloatware installed by carriers, leaving
more room for you to install apps you really want.
It also allows you to easily swap SIMs, too.

My son has the Galaxy S4 and really likes it, but it is much more
expensive than the Nexus. It does have one feature I'd like - a
swappable battery.
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On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:16:48 -0500, S Viemeister
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>
> My son has the Galaxy S4 and really likes it, but it is much more
> expensive than the Nexus.


The Nexus I looked at was well over $300, I call that expensive!

> It does have one feature I'd like - a swappable battery.


I realize that the Nexus 5 has a wireless charger, but I read that you
can use the usb port to charge it too, so maybe you can use a portable
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"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
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> Our thing here is one grocery list but we "tag" each line with TJ, WF, or
> SnS in the margin to make it easier to figure out what to get from the
> list at each. Our list is on paper, usually the back of an envelope or
> other scrap paper.


When I am going to several stores all in one day or perhaps in a period of
two days but only need a few things, I will use the same list but I use a
piece of computer paper. Sometimes I have to draw arrows because I am
unsure of which store sells which item so I may intend to buy it at the
first store but then have to buy it at the second or third store.

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> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:36:07 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> news
>> >
>> > I'm glad I have the app because adding machine paper is as scarce as
>> > hen's teeth these days.

>>
>> I'm glad it works for you. I wouldn't be without mine

>
> My only complaint is that my battery drains quickly when I use it.


I just discovered that I can make a list on my phone for Safeway. I used
that today and combined with the U and some coupons, I saved $20.99. So not
bad!

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On 1/16/2014 7:50 PM, sf wrote:
> > wrote:
>> My son has the Galaxy S4 and really likes it, but it is much more
>> expensive than the Nexus.

>
> The Nexus I looked at was well over $300, I call that expensive!
>

We came into a little extra money last year, and treated ourselves. But
the Galaxy was _way_ too pricey.

>> It does have one feature I'd like - a swappable battery.

>
> I realize that the Nexus 5 has a wireless charger, but I read that you
> can use the usb port to charge it too, so maybe you can use a portable
> usb recharger instead of battery swapping.
>

Yes, we use the USB cables, we didn't opt for the wireless charger.

I have a high-capacity external battery pack, and it's useful, but I
really prefer being able to swap batteries.

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>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:36:07 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> news >>> >
>>> > I'm glad I have the app because adding machine paper is as scarce as
>>> > hen's teeth these days.
>>>
>>> I'm glad it works for you. I wouldn't be without mine

>>
>> My only complaint is that my battery drains quickly when I use it.

>
> Oh I don't think mine does. I put it on charge every night anyway so
> perhaps I don't notice.


I keep forgetting to charge mine.

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>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:08:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:36:07 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> >> news >>> >> >
>>> >> > I'm glad I have the app because adding machine paper is as scarce
>>> >> > as
>>> >> > hen's teeth these days.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm glad it works for you. I wouldn't be without mine
>>> >
>>> > My only complaint is that my battery drains quickly when I use it.
>>>
>>> Oh I don't think mine does. I put it on charge every night anyway so
>>> perhaps I don't notice.

>>
>> I have to recharge my phone nightly too. Maybe I just notice the
>> battery going down because that's the most I use my phone at any one
>> time. Dunno. I like having a smart phone, Samsung is supposed to be
>> one of the better brands and I like this model because it's not a huge
>> one - I just don't like the battery life.

>
> We are looking at new phones (we have Samsungs) He has been looking for
> bigger ones and went on to a review site. The comments are really bad
> Look he
> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-cent...hones-of-2013/
>
> Now he has a site which says they are ok
> http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/smart...to-buy-in-2014
>
> Take your pick I suppose


My husband just got a big one and loves it. Looked too big for my liking
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>
>>I have to recharge my phone nightly too. Maybe I just notice the
>>battery going down because that's the most I use my phone at any one
>>time. Dunno. I like having a smart phone, Samsung is supposed to be
>>one of the better brands and I like this model because it's not a huge
>>one - I just don't like the battery life.

>
> I have an iPhone. I turn off most apps when I am not using them a
> lot, and sometimes forget to recharge it. The battery (at least for)
> me, lasts a long time, even if I have forgone recharging it in the
> past day or so. And even with using a lot of apps, it still lasts
> me a long time.


My daughter keeps hers on airplane mode and it doesn't drain the battery.
But of course she can't get calls and texts while it is like that.

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>> was shocked to see that many now
>> contain isolated soy protein among other things that I don't want to
>> consume. It seems to me that in days of yore, TJ's ingredients were
>> pretty pure (i.e., what I would find in my own kitchen). What happened?

>
> Ahh, but it's least non-GMO isolated soy protein!<snork>
>
> ISP is usually one of the main ingredients in things that want to be
> like meat, but aren't.
>
> -sw


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>> I was looking at the ingredients in the
>> lobster bisque ere I put it back) and was shocked to see that many now
>> contain isolated soy protein among other things that I don't want to
>> consume. It seems to me that in days of yore, TJ's ingredients were
>> pretty pure (i.e., what I would find in my own kitchen). What happened?

>
> People wanted to be a "grocery store". What did you expect? They
> still have pure products (like the marinara I talk about), but you
> have to read the labels to find them.
>
>

I expected it to keep using decent ingredients. Now, of course, one
needs to read the labels every single time one buys a product.
Sometimes, they go back and forth even for the same product.

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Paul M. Cook wrote:
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>> We stopped in there yesterday just to see if there was something of
>> interest. Nope. Actually my mom needed to go into a store in the same
>> strip mall and we didn't need to go in there. So we went to TJs. The
>> place was packed but I just don't get it. Although I didn't look at each
>> and every item, I really didn't see a thing that I couldn't get elsewhere.
>> And their prices didn't seem any cheaper. Our TJs is quite small though.
>> So it could be that there are others that sell more products than this one
>> does.

>
> I wrote off TJs today. I was only going there for cheese and wine recently.
> Then they had this Peruvian raw shrimp. It was good. It was a very good
> value at 9 bucks a pound. So today I went there to get more and they had
> Chinese crap in its place. Tiny shrimps and judging by the ice 50% water.
> I asked what happened to the Peruvian shrimp and was told they were gone
> forever. They said "try the cooked shrimp." Oh yeah, I did before and they
> sucked ass. Utter crap and 90% water. So that didn't take long, Ever time
> I find something I like it is discontinued. They even DCd the savory whole
> grain crackers I liked. Also gone forever..
>
> That's it for TJs. Never again. Screw them, they suck mightily.
>
>

Oh? Then they have changed their policy about not using products from
China too.

I was actually at TJs tonight and saw one new products: freeze-dried
UNsweetened cranberries. From the US too (although I will hastily add
that many other countries have more-stringent rules about food, and I
love to get food from such countries). I am very excited about these
because I have been procrastinating about making a sugar-free substitute
for Craisins. Of course, the freeze-dried cranberries are not the same,
but I can use them as is or partially rehydrate them and sweeten them a
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Susan wrote:
> Yes, that's my take on TJ's as well. There are a very few things I buy
> there, and those are good bargains and quality, but most of the store is
> convenience foods or low cost, low quality things we don't eat.
>
> I love their pre brined organic chickens, frozen wild caught Alaskan
> fish, flax and soy chips, sweet and spicy pecans, and organic mayo,
> which comes in glass, not plastic. Except for an occasional cheese
> purchase, that's pretty much all I buy there.
>
> Susan


I love those chips too. Oh, I also got frozen wild blueberries. The
wild caught fish is also a good deal there.

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> Higher quality food? I must disagree. Between all the recalls and the
> spoiled produce, I would say that most any other grocery store is a
> better bet.


I see seven recalls for the last 5+ years, four of which were because of
the problem with peanuts and peanut butter.

I don't recall seeing spoiled produce there.

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James Silverton wrote:
> One problem at TJ's is that they tend to discontinue without explanation
> some things that are very good. A recent example has been various fruit
> preserves. One thing that I kind of like is being able to buy fruit like
> bananas at a price for each. I suppose it must reflect the overfishing
> of the oceans but the fish department is much smaller than ten years ago.
>

Yes, that hacks me off. It's even more interesting, given that
cookbooks have been written, and the recipes are based on various TJ
products. And once again tonight my daughter was looking for the mint
UFOs. They were discontinued once and brought back, but they have been
discontinued again.

If they discontinue their low-carb chips, I will be extremely unhappy.

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"Jean B." > wrote in message
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> I expected it to keep using decent ingredients. Now, of course, one needs
> to read the labels every single time one buys a product. Sometimes, they
> go back and forth even for the same product.


Yep. I learned to read every label, every time. You can't even trust
something that looks wholesome. Such as the "Simply Potatoes" products.
The name would imply that they are just potatoes. Nope. And some of the
prepared mashed potatoes have egg in them! I once ordered a turkey dinner
sent on dry ice. It was all prepared. I think it was from Hickory Farms
but I could be wrong on that. The mashed potatoes tasted horrible. I read
the ingredients and rather than butter, they put soybean oil in them. Ick!

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"Jean B." > wrote in message
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> I was actually at TJs tonight and saw one new products: freeze-dried
> UNsweetened cranberries. From the US too (although I will hastily add
> that many other countries have more-stringent rules about food, and I love
> to get food from such countries). I am very excited about these because I
> have been procrastinating about making a sugar-free substitute for
> Craisins. Of course, the freeze-dried cranberries are not the same, but I
> can use them as is or partially rehydrate them and sweeten them a bit with
> a low-carb sweetener.


They now have a low sugar Craisins. I bought some but haven't tried them.
I could get unsweetened at Central Market and my health food store a few
years back but they now only sell the fruit juice sweetened. I did get some
from Ebay but they tasted so sweet that I had a hard time believing that
they were truly unsweetened.

I tried dehydrating my own but rather than them coming out like Craisins,
they were all light and puffed full of air. Almost like eating popcorn with
with a cranberry flavor. They were good but I never craved them or
anything. And a while back I got similar from Nuts.online or Nuts.com or
whatever that place is.

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"Jean B." > wrote in message
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> Julie Bove wrote:
>> Higher quality food? I must disagree. Between all the recalls and the
>> spoiled produce, I would say that most any other grocery store is a
>> better bet.

>
> I see seven recalls for the last 5+ years, four of which were because of
> the problem with peanuts and peanut butter.


There were a lot of ground beef recalls but I don't remember the year.
>
> I don't recall seeing spoiled produce there.


My TJs often has spoiled. They just shrink wrap it so you can't tell. I
have bought things that they just put on the shelf and they are bad.



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> James Silverton wrote:
>> One problem at TJ's is that they tend to discontinue without explanation
>> some things that are very good. A recent example has been various fruit
>> preserves. One thing that I kind of like is being able to buy fruit like
>> bananas at a price for each. I suppose it must reflect the overfishing
>> of the oceans but the fish department is much smaller than ten years ago.
>>

> Yes, that hacks me off. It's even more interesting, given that cookbooks
> have been written, and the recipes are based on various TJ products. And
> once again tonight my daughter was looking for the mint UFOs. They were
> discontinued once and brought back, but they have been discontinued again.
>
> If they discontinue their low-carb chips, I will be extremely unhappy.


I kept hearing about various gluten free products but our store never had
them.

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> On 1/16/2014 3:13 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "S Viemeister" > wrote
>>> On 1/16/2014 2:55 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> We are looking at new phones (we have Samsungs) He has been looking
>>>> for
>>>> bigger ones and went on to a review site. The comments are really
>>>> bad
>>>> Look he
>>>> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-cent...hones-of-2013/
>>>>
>>> They seem to like my new phone - the Nexus 5.
>>> I like it, too! We bought them unlocked, from Google.

>>
>> Ahh a recommendation! thanks. Oh btw, is it android?
>>

> Yes, it's Android, and getting it (unlocked) direct from Google, avoids
> you being stuck with all the bloatware installed by carriers, leaving more
> room for you to install apps you really want.
> It also allows you to easily swap SIMs, too.


Thanks All passed on

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> My son has the Galaxy S4 and really likes it, but it is much more
> expensive than the Nexus. It does have one feature I'd like - a swappable
> battery.


Daughter has that and she loves it, but we are not willing to pay all that
money for one, though we are considering the S3 which is perfectly adequate
for our needs and much cheaper. We have had a contract for years and have
the best deal for what we need. They try to sell you a new deal because
the phones are expensive. We prefer to buy one outright and put in our sim
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On 1/16/2014 11:45 PM, Jean B. wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:51:31 -0500, Jean B. wrote:
>>
>>> was shocked to see that many now
>>> contain isolated soy protein among other things that I don't want to
>>> consume. It seems to me that in days of yore, TJ's ingredients were
>>> pretty pure (i.e., what I would find in my own kitchen). What happened?

>>
>> Ahh, but it's least non-GMO isolated soy protein!<snork>
>>
>> ISP is usually one of the main ingredients in things that want to be
>> like meat, but aren't.
>>
>> -sw

>
> Well, I'm not going to buy those products. They did contain real
> meat/poultry, but...
>


You had me intrigued because I was annoyed with my ISP (Internet Service
Provider); treating them like meat sounded quite appropriate.

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On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 23:46:55 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:51:31 -0500, "Jean > wrote:
> >
> >> I was looking at the ingredients in the
> >> lobster bisque ere I put it back) and was shocked to see that many now
> >> contain isolated soy protein among other things that I don't want to
> >> consume. It seems to me that in days of yore, TJ's ingredients were
> >> pretty pure (i.e., what I would find in my own kitchen). What happened?

> >
> > People wanted to be a "grocery store". What did you expect? They
> > still have pure products (like the marinara I talk about), but you
> > have to read the labels to find them.
> >
> >

> I expected it to keep using decent ingredients. Now, of course, one
> needs to read the labels every single time one buys a product.
> Sometimes, they go back and forth even for the same product.


Not me. People expect Trader Joe's to be something they have never
been. It has never been a store where you knew the product in your
hand was "pure" without reading the label, but it is evolving in that
direction because that's what their customers want. Back in the day,
they were just a store that sold odd lots - if you bought something
you liked, you had to go back immediately for more because chances
were that you'd never see that product again after it sold out. As
I've said in the past, I've been in a couple of them recently where
practically everything on the shelves was a private label Trader Joe's
product, but even the company FAQ encourages customers to be proactive
label readers because ingredients might change. They're like Costco
in that respect - their supplier du jour of a private label product is
the one who can meet their criteria and give them the best price.
Scroll down to #8. http://www.traderjoes.com/about/product-faq.asp


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On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 23:52:21 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

> I was actually at TJs tonight and saw one new products: freeze-dried
> UNsweetened cranberries. From the US too (although I will hastily add
> that many other countries have more-stringent rules about food, and I
> love to get food from such countries). I am very excited about these
> because I have been procrastinating about making a sugar-free substitute
> for Craisins. Of course, the freeze-dried cranberries are not the same,
> but I can use them as is or partially rehydrate them and sweeten them a
> bit with a low-carb sweetener.


Is that stocked where the nuts are? I'll ask about it the next time
I'm in. They are always cycling products on and off the shelves
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