On 2014-01-18 04:43:47 +0000, sf said:

> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 20:31:30 -0800, gtr > wrote:
>
>> Well whatever the scale is from [insert something] to "searingly hot",
>> we still have somebody's perspective of what the word "spice" means.
>
> Spice, to me, is the spice part of herbs and spices. Hot is hot.

I concur.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/17/2014 10:24 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 17:06:29 -1000, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> One really has to be gonzo to open a can labeled Spotted Dick. If I was
>>> in the UK, there might be some chance of me actually doing so but here
>>> in the Americas, fuggetaboutit!
>>
>> It's fruitcake in a can. With all the people here to purportedly
>> claim to go gaga over fruitcake, you'd think it would be more popular.
>>
>> -sw
>>
>
> The one I had was only raisins. Very tasty, better than typical fruitcake
> I'd buy it more often if more convenient to find around here.

Nahhh spotted dick and fruit cake are very different. For a start spotted
dick has suet pastry

http://britishfood.about.com/od/regi.../r/Pudding.htm

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On 2014-01-18 09:59:51 +0000, Ophelia said:

>> We don't seem to have as many different pickled vegetables as you
>> apparently do.
>
> Maybe so, I don't know, but I suspect you have more than two?

Too many people, likely most Americans, even more likely that group of
Americans under, say, age 30, "pickles" means pickled cucumbers.

On Friday, January 17, 2014 9:47:07 PM UTC-8, tert in seattle wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>

> > And here's a new little tidbit for ya. Although I eat popcorn several times
> > a week and like it, I do not like all popcorn. I prefer the yellow and the
> > white. The blue/purple/black and red are pretty but they do no bring me the
> > eating pleasure of the yellow and white. Also not a fan of *most* sweet
> > popcorn. But I have a recipe for caramel popcorn that I do like. I also
> > only like it to be freshly popped.
>
> > I'm sorry that I can't be all black and white for ya. That's just not how
> > roll here in picky eating land.
>

> none of this is important
>
> the really important thing is ... what do you think of Harry Conick Jr?

As long as we are asking questions:

Does the John Tesh radio show play in your area? IMHO, John Tesh >>>>> Harry.

Is the Seattle Freeze real? If so, are the locals merely introverted or are
they actually stupid, like stunned sheep?

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:17:20 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 1/17/2014 5:58 PM, Yellow wrote:
> > I don't that that covers how people will consider themselves - for
> > example think about how many Americans see themselves, even many
> > generations on from a birth in that particular country, as African-
> > American or Irish-American.
>
> So what am I? A third generation Scottish-American? Or could I be
> part German-American since my paternal grandmother was second generation
> German? I'm pretty sure I'm just an American.
>
Me too, except it's a mixture of even more nationalities (including
Scot, Welsh, English and Swedish) going back to the Mayflower... my
children have even more. We're All-American.



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On 1/18/2014 10:44 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:17:20 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/17/2014 5:58 PM, Yellow wrote:
>>> I don't that that covers how people will consider themselves - for
>>> example think about how many Americans see themselves, even many
>>> generations on from a birth in that particular country, as African-
>>> American or Irish-American.
>>
>> So what am I? A third generation Scottish-American? Or could I be
>> part German-American since my paternal grandmother was second generation
>> German? I'm pretty sure I'm just an American.
>>
> Me too, except it's a mixture of even more nationalities (including
> Scot, Welsh, English and Swedish) going back to the Mayflower... my
> children have even more. We're All-American.
>
I've said before, my father's side of the family can be traced back to
landing in America in 1680. Scots captured at the Battle of Bothwell
Bridge in 1679 and transported to the "colonies". (Heck, I could have
wound up in Australia.) I'd say I'm an American.

Jill

On 1/17/2014 11:28 AM, gtr wrote:
> On 2014-01-17 14:21:50 +0000, sf said:
>
>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 01:50:51 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, most people prefer their nationality to be acknowledged rather
>>> than fudged or denied.
>>
>> Sounds like you need to walk around Scotland with a sign hanging from
>> your neck declaring your English ancestry. Never mind that you've
>> lived in another country for the last 40 years - anyone who doesn't
>> acknowledge you are self-described as English will be punished.
>
> I know you guys have a vendetta going so hate to get in the way, but my
> name is always misspelled. Though it doesn't "**** me off", of course,
> I still doggedly correct it. It gets old, frankly. Once I was asked my
> name at a name-tag cocktail event and said, "Doakes, Joe Doakes". The
> guy picked up a magic marker and wrote JOE DOKES, and I found myself
> correcting my fake name. It was pretty ludicrous.
>
It used to irk me when my mom would purposely mispronounce our last
name, just to make it easier. No, our name is not McGowan.

Jill

On Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:13:30 AM UTC-8, jmcquown wrote:


>
> Not to mention, not all immigrants came through Ellis Island nor did
> they all settle in New York. The Settlement Cookbook was Wisconsin, no?
>

I have often wondered how people ended up away from the coast: whether
they had sufficient funds for train fare or if future employers advanced
the fare or paid outright.

Immigrants in both my family and my wife's family went to Pennsylvania.
My wife's ancestors worked in the mines; mine worked in a saloon. None
settled there permanently.

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:20:35 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 1/17/2014 5:58 PM, Yellow wrote:
> >> I don't that that covers how people will consider themselves - for
> >> example think about how many Americans see themselves, even many
> >> generations on from a birth in that particular country, as African-
> >> American or Irish-American.
> >
> > So what am I? A third generation Scottish-American? Or could I be
> > part German-American since my paternal grandmother was second generation
> > German? I'm pretty sure I'm just an American.
>
> Interesting question given the nationality of your grandparents

You could say my Grandmother was an American born Swede... except she
didn't call herself Swedish. Her parents immigrated from Sweden
separately, met and married here. They came here because they wanted
to. She was proud of her heritage, but it didn't define her. She was
an American, not a Swede. That means Sweden is part of my heritage
too, but it does not define who I am either. I might identify more
with Sweden if she had married a Swede and my father had married a
Swede, but they didn't and I don't identify with Sweden in any way
other than it's an interesting footnote on my genealogical record -
and it's fun to poke around Scandinavian shops when I find them.


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On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:13:30 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/17/2014 3:25 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
snip
>> The Settlement Cookbook was first published in 1901 from the classes
>> given to immigrants. That is what makes the book of interest.
>> Janet US
>>
>Not to mention, not all immigrants came through Ellis Island nor did
>they all settle in New York. The Settlement Cookbook was Wisconsin, no?
>
>Jill
Yes.
Janet US

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 09:57:40 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 23:21:46 -0000, Yellow > wrote:
> >
> >> In article >,
> >> says...
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:07:49 -0800 (PST),
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Isn't Scotland agitating for more autonomy?
> >> >
> >> > I'm sure Wales would like to break away too, but what would England do
> >> > if they couldn't declare the heir apparent "Prince of Wales"?
> >>
> >> A common American mistake - she is not the "Queen of England" but Queen
> >> of the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa,
> >> Pakistan, Ceylon, Jamaica, Barbados, the Bahamas, Grenada, Papua New
> >> Guinea, the Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the
> >> Grenadines, Belize, Antigua and Barbuda, and Saint Kitts and Nevis.
> >>
> >> She is also the head of the Commonwealth.
> >>
> >
> > We said absolutely nothing that was incorrect. You're making a
> > kitchen sink argument because you can't win by staying with the topic
> > and don't think I can't figure out who you are.
>
> I don't know her either but she is a well respected poster in other groups.

I don't know her from up and she came across just like you know who,
so I guess that superior, snotty attitude is more common in your part
of the world than I thought.


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On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:26:24 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

> Enough now of politics. This is a cooking group. I would be grateful if
> posters would stop denigrating UK!!! I don't do it about the US and I would
> hope for similar courtesy.

Nobody is denigrating the UK, just point out some things that are
obvious to outsiders.


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On 1/17/2014 5:56 PM, wrote:
>
> There are three basic kinds of pickled cucumber: the fermented-in-brine kind (with and without dill, fully fermented and "half-sour"), the soaked-in-vinegar pickle (Dills, Kosher Dills, etc.), and the soaked-in-vinegar sweet pickle (Bread and butter, Hamburger chips, sweet gherkins).
>
> There are other pickled vegetables: beets, carrots, chilies, okra, onions, peppers (Peter Piper picked a peck...). My dad always kept a huge jar of
> pickled green tomatoes in the fridge, heaven knows why.
>
My father loved piccalilli, which is apparently common in the UK. His
German mother made it, most likely at the behest of her of
Scottish-decent husband. How's that for confusing?

Dad also liked pickled pigs feet, pickled okra, pickled eggs, probably
pickled beets (dirt chunks, in Barb Schaller parlance) and pickled
peppers. As you pointed out, they are not all referred to as "pickles".
Pickles in the US involve cucumbers, regardless of the spices or method.

Jill

"gtr" > wrote in message news:201401180735311219-xxx@yyyzzz...

> None of this really explains why you feel the need to defend her with such
> intense vigor. She doesn't seem to need it, others don't seem to care
> about your outrage, because they've got their own outrage to attend to.
> So the whole of it seems to be cut from the same cloth, though some will
> go to hell and others to heaven when we're all done.

You have given me much pause for thought. I realise it is more about
me I am very sensitive to what I see as harassment. I have been stalked
and harassed for 13 years, in fact you saw a sample of it here very
recently. But you are right. Any harassment I see here is nothing compared
to what I've had over the years.

Thank you. I am stepping back.

Best

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"gtr" > wrote in message news:201401180737009060-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2014-01-18 09:59:51 +0000, Ophelia said:
>
>>> We don't seem to have as many different pickled vegetables as you
>>> apparently do.
>>
>> Maybe so, I don't know, but I suspect you have more than two?
>
> Too many people, likely most Americans, even more likely that group of
> Americans under, say, age 30, "pickles" means pickled cucumbers.

How odd.

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On 1/18/2014 10:05 AM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> And here's a new little tidbit for ya. Although I eat popcorn several times
>> a week and like it, I do not like all popcorn. I prefer the yellow and the
>> white. The blue/purple/black and red are pretty but they do no bring me the
>> eating pleasure of the yellow and white.
>
> Never heard of blue/purple/black popcorn. It must be made from
> "indian corn?"
>
> G.
>
Either that or it's infused with some sort of dye. I seem to recall
seeing black or purple popcorn for sale 10+ years ago. It still pops
white, it's just the outer hull that is a different colour. I never was
a fan of popcorn so I didn't bother reading the label.

Jill

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:17:20 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/17/2014 5:58 PM, Yellow wrote:
>> > I don't that that covers how people will consider themselves - for
>> > example think about how many Americans see themselves, even many
>> > generations on from a birth in that particular country, as African-
>> > American or Irish-American.
>>
>> So what am I? A third generation Scottish-American? Or could I be
>> part German-American since my paternal grandmother was second generation
>> German? I'm pretty sure I'm just an American.
>>
> Me too, except it's a mixture of even more nationalities (including
> Scot, Welsh, English and Swedish) going back to the Mayflower... my
> children have even more. We're All-American.

I am surrounded by dolly mixtures

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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/17/2014 11:28 AM, gtr wrote:
>> On 2014-01-17 14:21:50 +0000, sf said:
>>
>>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 01:50:51 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, most people prefer their nationality to be acknowledged rather
>>>> than fudged or denied.
>>>
>>> Sounds like you need to walk around Scotland with a sign hanging from
>>> your neck declaring your English ancestry. Never mind that you've
>>> lived in another country for the last 40 years - anyone who doesn't
>>> acknowledge you are self-described as English will be punished.
>>
>> I know you guys have a vendetta going so hate to get in the way, but my
>> name is always misspelled. Though it doesn't "**** me off", of course,
>> I still doggedly correct it. It gets old, frankly. Once I was asked my
>> name at a name-tag cocktail event and said, "Doakes, Joe Doakes". The
>> guy picked up a magic marker and wrote JOE DOKES, and I found myself
>> correcting my fake name. It was pretty ludicrous.
>>
> It used to irk me when my mom would purposely mispronounce our last name,
> just to make it easier. No, our name is not McGowan.

My best friend in Junior School was called Maureen McGowan Heh I had
forgotten


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"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:20:35 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 1/17/2014 5:58 PM, Yellow wrote:
>> >> I don't that that covers how people will consider themselves - for
>> >> example think about how many Americans see themselves, even many
>> >> generations on from a birth in that particular country, as African-
>> >> American or Irish-American.
>> >
>> > So what am I? A third generation Scottish-American? Or could I be
>> > part German-American since my paternal grandmother was second
>> > generation
>> > German? I'm pretty sure I'm just an American.
>>
>> Interesting question given the nationality of your grandparents
>
> You could say my Grandmother was an American born Swede... except she
> didn't call herself Swedish. Her parents immigrated from Sweden
> separately, met and married here. They came here because they wanted
> to. She was proud of her heritage, but it didn't define her. She was
> an American, not a Swede. That means Sweden is part of my heritage
> too, but it does not define who I am either. I might identify more
> with Sweden if she had married a Swede and my father had married a
> Swede, but they didn't and I don't identify with Sweden in any way
> other than it's an interesting footnote on my genealogical record -
> and it's fun to poke around Scandinavian shops when I find them.

Sounds like fun) I am just a mix of English and Scottish


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 09:57:40 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 23:21:46 -0000, Yellow > wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article >,
>> >>
>> >> says...
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:07:49 -0800 (PST),
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Isn't Scotland agitating for more autonomy?
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm sure Wales would like to break away too, but what would England
>> >> > do
>> >> > if they couldn't declare the heir apparent "Prince of Wales"?
>> >>
>> >> A common American mistake - she is not the "Queen of England" but
>> >> Queen
>> >> of the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa,
>> >> Pakistan, Ceylon, Jamaica, Barbados, the Bahamas, Grenada, Papua New
>> >> Guinea, the Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and
>> >> the
>> >> Grenadines, Belize, Antigua and Barbuda, and Saint Kitts and Nevis.
>> >>
>> >> She is also the head of the Commonwealth.
>> >>
>> >
>> > We said absolutely nothing that was incorrect. You're making a
>> > kitchen sink argument because you can't win by staying with the topic
>> > and don't think I can't figure out who you are.
>>
>> I don't know her either but she is a well respected poster in other
>> groups.
>
> I don't know her from up and she came across just like you know who,
> so I guess that superior, snotty attitude is more common in your part
> of the world than I thought.

Maybe but she doesn't come across like that in the legal/politics groups.
Can't remember which

And yes, I do know who



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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:26:24 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>> Enough now of politics. This is a cooking group. I would be grateful
>> if
>> posters would stop denigrating UK!!! I don't do it about the US and I
>> would
>> hope for similar courtesy.
>
> Nobody is denigrating the UK, just point out some things that are
> obvious to outsiders.

I could do the same to you but I never would. A question of common courtesy
I think.


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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/17/2014 5:56 PM, wrote:
>>
>> There are three basic kinds of pickled cucumber: the fermented-in-brine
>> kind (with and without dill, fully fermented and "half-sour"), the
>> soaked-in-vinegar pickle (Dills, Kosher Dills, etc.), and the
>> soaked-in-vinegar sweet pickle (Bread and butter, Hamburger chips, sweet
>> gherkins).
>>
>> There are other pickled vegetables: beets, carrots, chilies, okra,
>> onions, peppers (Peter Piper picked a peck...). My dad always kept a huge
>> jar of
>> pickled green tomatoes in the fridge, heaven knows why.
>>
> My father loved piccalilli, which is apparently common in the UK. His
> German mother made it, most likely at the behest of her of Scottish-decent
> husband. How's that for confusing?

I haven't seen it for a long time because we don't like it but, yes, from
past knowledge it was very popular)

> Dad also liked pickled pigs feet, pickled okra, pickled eggs, probably
> pickled beets (dirt chunks, in Barb Schaller parlance) and pickled
> peppers. As you pointed out, they are not all referred to as "pickles".
> Pickles in the US involve cucumbers, regardless of the spices or method.

I make pickled eggs and pickled onions. I ignore recipes and use no spices
(as you will guess)


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On 1/18/2014 11:18 AM, wrote:
> On Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:13:30 AM UTC-8, jmcquown wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Not to mention, not all immigrants came through Ellis Island nor did
>> they all settle in New York. The Settlement Cookbook was Wisconsin, no?
>>
>
> I have often wondered how people ended up away from the coast: whether
> they had sufficient funds for train fare or if future employers advanced
> the fare or paid outright.
>
I know exactly how my great-great-greats wound up in Pennsylvania. They
were given a land grant by William Penn, the breakaway colonial governor
of Pennsylvania. Dad's family became farmers.

> Immigrants in both my family and my wife's family went to Pennsylvania.
> My wife's ancestors worked in the mines; mine worked in a saloon. None
> settled there permanently.
>
My more recent to the US Scottish grandparents settled in western Ohio,
right near the Pennsylvania border. Grandpa had a job lined up as an
electrician in a steel mill. I don't know if his employer paid for them
to get from where the boat docked in Canada to Ohio; probably not. The
whole thing was probably a crap shoot. I do know they left their only
daughter (at the time) behind in Scotland with family until they were
sure this move was worth it. They sent for her a couple of years later.
I never got to meet Aunt Maggie. She died before I was born.

Jill

On 1/18/2014 10:04 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 1/17/2014 11:13 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 23:05:35 -0000, Yellow > wrote:
>>>
>>>> You know that what Americans call chips are called crisps in the UK,
>>>> right?
>>>
>>> Do Americans care? No.
>>>
>>>
>> Except when it comes to fish & chips... are they crisps or what
>> Americans call french fries?
>
> You will have to ask those cooks who forgot your chips/fries
>
>
LOL

They were supposed to be fries! I don't know what most people call
them. At one restaurant off the island (not the Club) I can order (home
fried thinly sliced potato chips) with my meal if I so choose. That's
not what I think of when I think of fish & chips.

Jill

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 09:59:51 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 21:56:47 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On 1/16/2014 9:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Overall I am not a fan of pickles. I do like pickled beets and some
> >> >> pickled cucumbers
> >> >
> >> > Did you know that pickles = pickled cucumbers?
> >>
> >> I expect she does. Just because she likes those, does she HAVE to like
> >> all
> >> pickles???
> >>
> >> Do you love ALL fruit or ALL veg??? What if you only like some... ????
> >> but not all ...
> >>
> >> This is getting ridiculous!
> >
> > We don't seem to have as many different pickled vegetables as you
> > apparently do.
>
> Maybe so, I don't know, but I suspect you have more than two?

No pickled onions that I know of here - other than those tiny ones
that go into cocktails. Hubby has an aversion to pickled anything, so
there could be an entire shelf of pickled foods that I don't know
about - but really, other than the obvious and a couple of foreign
foods like sauerkraut or the occasional pickled herring... I don't
think so. I've pickled eggs and green beans myself. Of course, there
are lots of vegetables you can pickle if you do it yourself, but I'm
talking about what's on the grocery store shelf. Maybe I could find
pickled green beans on a shelf somewhere if I looked in enough stores,
but I doubt I'd find pickled eggs sold commercially. In any case,
eggs and herring are not vegetables, so that leaves sauerkraut (which
is common at the commercial level) and green beans, which are not. I
just thought of something else, but it's foreign... Italian mixed
pickled vegetables with chilies in it (goes on sandwiches):
Giardiniera. I never remember what it's called, so I call it
"Giardia".


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On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 07:37:00 -0800, gtr > wrote:

> On 2014-01-18 09:59:51 +0000, Ophelia said:
>
> >> We don't seem to have as many different pickled vegetables as you
> >> apparently do.
> >
> > Maybe so, I don't know, but I suspect you have more than two?
>
> Too many people, likely most Americans, even more likely that group of
> Americans under, say, age 30, "pickles" means pickled cucumbers.

I'm nowhere near 30, but if you say the generic word "pickles" - I
think about cucumbers. Pickled anything else will be defined as
"pickled" name the vegetable, unless it goes by a completely different
name such as sauerkraut or giardia... whoops, I did it again -
giardiniera.


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On Saturday, January 18, 2014 8:48:17 AM UTC-8, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/18/2014 10:04 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> > ...
>
> >> On 1/17/2014 11:13 PM, sf wrote:
>
> >>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 23:05:35 -0000, Yellow > wrote:
>

> >>>> You know that what Americans call chips are called crisps in the UK,
> >>>> right?
>
> >>> Do Americans care? No.
>

>
> >> Except when it comes to fish & chips... are they crisps or what
> >> Americans call french fries?
>

> > You will have to ask those cooks who forgot your chips/fries
>
>

> They were supposed to be fries! I don't know what most people call
> them. At one restaurant off the island (not the Club) I can order (home
> fried thinly sliced potato chips) with my meal if I so choose. That's
> not what I think of when I think of fish & chips.
>

Fries are chipped potatoes. Potato chips (the thin discs) used to be called
Saratoga chips after their birthplace, to distinguish them.

"sf" > wrote in message
...

>> Maybe so, I don't know, but I suspect you have more than two?
>
> No pickled onions that I know of here - other than those tiny ones
> that go into cocktails. Hubby has an aversion to pickled anything, so
> there could be an entire shelf of pickled foods that I don't know
> about -

Did you used to like them? Isn't it odd. Anything DH doesn't like never
sees the light of day here Sounds pretty much you are the same

but really, other than the obvious and a couple of foreign
> foods like sauerkraut or the occasional pickled herring... I don't
> think so. I've pickled eggs and green beans myself. Of course, there
> are lots of vegetables you can pickle if you do it yourself, but I'm
> talking about what's on the grocery store shelf. Maybe I could find
> pickled green beans on a shelf somewhere if I looked in enough stores,
> but I doubt I'd find pickled eggs sold commercially. In any case,
> eggs and herring are not vegetables, so that leaves sauerkraut (which
> is common at the commercial level) and green beans, which are not. I
> just thought of something else, but it's foreign... Italian mixed
> pickled vegetables with chilies in it (goes on sandwiches):
> Giardiniera. I never remember what it's called, so I call it
> "Giardia".

LOLyou do know what Giardia really is .. yes????? lol


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On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 09:52:50 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 1/17/2014 11:13 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 23:05:35 -0000, Yellow > wrote:
> >
> >> You know that what Americans call chips are called crisps in the UK,
> >> right?
> >
> > Do Americans care? No.
> >
> >
> Except when it comes to fish & chips... are they crisps or what
> Americans call french fries?
>

Americans are intelligent enough to figure that out - but apparently
English people like "Yellow" are not intelligent enough to figure out
what our "chips" are.



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On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:07:16 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 23:05:35 -0000, Yellow > wrote:
> >
> > > You know that what Americans call chips are called crisps in the UK,
> > > right?
> >
> > Do Americans care? No.
>
> No need to be mean here, sf.
>
I do not like "Yellow" and feel no compulsion to put up with her
bullshit.



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On 2014-01-18 16:32:18 +0000, Ophelia said:

> "gtr" > wrote in message news:201401180735311219-xxx@yyyzzz...
>
>> None of this really explains why you feel the need to defend her with
>> such intense vigor. She doesn't seem to need it, others don't seem to
>> care about your outrage, because they've got their own outrage to
>> attend to. So the whole of it seems to be cut from the same cloth,
>> though some will go to hell and others to heaven when we're all done.
>
> You have given me much pause for thought. I realise it is more about
> me I am very sensitive to what I see as harassment. I have been
> stalked and harassed for 13 years, in fact you saw a sample of it here
> very recently. But you are right. Any harassment I see here is
> nothing compared to what I've had over the years.
>
> Thank you. I am stepping back.

You are one of the most surprisingly honest and straight-forward people
I've encountered on usenet. And I've been here over 20 years in various
newsgroups.

On 2014-01-18 16:21:18 +0000, Janet Bostwick said:

> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:13:30 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/17/2014 3:25 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> snip
>>> The Settlement Cookbook was first published in 1901 from the classes
>>> given to immigrants. That is what makes the book of interest.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> Not to mention, not all immigrants came through Ellis Island nor did
>> they all settle in New York. The Settlement Cookbook was Wisconsin, no?
>>
>> Jill
> Yes.
> Janet US

And there's the port of Houston to consider as well. They processed
immigrants in the early 20th century.

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2014011809111095054-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2014-01-18 16:32:18 +0000, Ophelia said:
>
>> "gtr" > wrote in message
>> news:201401180735311219-xxx@yyyzzz...
>>
>>> None of this really explains why you feel the need to defend her with
>>> such intense vigor. She doesn't seem to need it, others don't seem to
>>> care about your outrage, because they've got their own outrage to attend
>>> to. So the whole of it seems to be cut from the same cloth, though some
>>> will go to hell and others to heaven when we're all done.
>>
>> You have given me much pause for thought. I realise it is more about
>> me I am very sensitive to what I see as harassment. I have been
>> stalked and harassed for 13 years, in fact you saw a sample of it here
>> very recently. But you are right. Any harassment I see here is nothing
>> compared to what I've had over the years.
>>
>> Thank you. I am stepping back.
>
> You are one of the most surprisingly honest and straight-forward people
> I've encountered on usenet. And I've been here over 20 years in various
> newsgroups.

Oh! Thank you.

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jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 1/17/2014 11:03 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> > On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:31:10 -0500, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> > snip
> >>
> >> Mom gave me a recipe for Kahnom Jeep (steamed pork, crab & shrimp
> >> dumplings) which I've made many times, although not in a few years.
> >> They're so tasty they're dangerous. They barely make it out of the
> >> steamer and onto the plate.
> >>
> >> Jill
> > Oh my! That sounds wonderful!
> > Janet US
> >
> They *are* wonderful! It's one of my signature dishes on the RFC web site:
>
> http://www.recfoodcooking.org/sigs/J...20Jeep%29.html

LOL! I'm sure that any dish you cooked would be delicious along with
that hefty *signature* glass of wine. hehehh And you probably had a
few drinks before the meal too. Come on....fess up!

G.

Ps - I'll bet those would be quite tasty deep fried too rather than
steamed.

gtr wrote:
> On 2014-01-17 23:55:00 +0000, Ophelia said:
>
> [ edited for brevity ]
>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> What bothers me so much?.... that she is such an idiot. Look at her
>>> history of complaining about things and asking for advice, and then
>>> dumping on all the reasonable suggestions she gets.
>
> [snip]
>
>> Why does it bother you so much?
>
> He just said why it bothers him (above). And it's the reason I
> kill-filed her long ago. Now, as then, I'm sure she's a good human and
> gets through her day despite her failings, just like the rest of us. But
> her constant counter to almost any advice or recommendation is
> maddening. Every topic about X takes three posts (at best) before
> becoming an extended discussion of her life's tribulations and her
> families demands.
>
<snip>

Yep.
If there's an interesting on-topic thread, Bovine Julie jumps in
and turns it to
(a) allergies
(b) family doesn't like it
(c) she doesn't like it
(d) - (z) something bovine

Killfiling here doesn't help; she jumps in every thread - and as soon
as that happens, you'll read her anyway and the thread has become
worthless.

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:34:03 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

> dolly mixtures

It that a polite way to say "mutts"?


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:34:03 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>> dolly mixtures
>
> It that a polite way to say "mutts"?

Hell noooooooooooo! They are sweeties/candy)

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=do...1012 &bih=473

They are a big mix of different kinds)

Hence me calling you both 'dolly mixtures'


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On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 17:02:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> >> Maybe so, I don't know, but I suspect you have more than two?
> >
> > No pickled onions that I know of here - other than those tiny ones
> > that go into cocktails. Hubby has an aversion to pickled anything, so
> > there could be an entire shelf of pickled foods that I don't know
> > about -
>
> Did you used to like them? Isn't it odd. Anything DH doesn't like never
> sees the light of day here Sounds pretty much you are the same
>
> but really, other than the obvious and a couple of foreign
> > foods like sauerkraut or the occasional pickled herring... I don't
> > think so. I've pickled eggs and green beans myself. Of course, there
> > are lots of vegetables you can pickle if you do it yourself, but I'm
> > talking about what's on the grocery store shelf. Maybe I could find
> > pickled green beans on a shelf somewhere if I looked in enough stores,
> > but I doubt I'd find pickled eggs sold commercially. In any case,
> > eggs and herring are not vegetables, so that leaves sauerkraut (which
> > is common at the commercial level) and green beans, which are not. I
> > just thought of something else, but it's foreign... Italian mixed
> > pickled vegetables with chilies in it (goes on sandwiches):
> > Giardiniera. I never remember what it's called, so I call it
> > "Giardia".
>
> LOLyou do know what Giardia really is .. yes????? lol



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On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 17:02:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

> I
> > just thought of something else, but it's foreign... Italian mixed
> > pickled vegetables with chilies in it (goes on sandwiches):
> > Giardiniera. I never remember what it's called, so I call it
> > "Giardia".
>
> LOLyou do know what Giardia really is .. yes????? lol

Yes, of course... that's why I know I don't have the correct word -
but at least I have a fast way to google for it.


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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 17:06:29 -1000, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> One really has to be gonzo to open a can labeled Spotted Dick. If I was
>> in the UK, there might be some chance of me actually doing so but here
>> in the Americas, fuggetaboutit!
>
> It's fruitcake in a can. With all the people here to purportedly
> claim to go gaga over fruitcake, you'd think it would be more popular.
>
> -sw
>
You've misspelled "with all the fruitcakes here going gaga".

HTH,

Michael Kuettner