On 2014-01-19 10:51 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>>
> The cameras are at known locations and programmed into the route on the
> gps. Some countries are outlawing that. I've never had one pop up in
> the US, but they are all over the place in Europe. First time ne beeped
> I was not sure what it was, but it was very handy.


I got nailed for speeding in the Netherlands. I had been on a country
road with a with an 80 kph limit. We stopped in a town to look for a
hotel, then go back on the road to look for another. I was in the
process of accelerating back to the old speed limit when I spotted a
speed limit 50 kph and photo radar sign. I realized I was speeding and
slowed down. That was early May. I got the ticket in the mail in late
October. They clocked me at 54 kph in a 50 kph zone. My normal
walking speed is a little better than 3 mph.... 5 kph. So I was being
charged for walking speed over the limit.

We had photo radar here for a while. It was portable. They had vans that
set up along the major highways along the main corridors through
southern Ontario. It was great. I never got caught. They had a threshold
of about 10 kph over the limit. Everyone moved along at the same speed.
It eliminated most of the traffic weaving that causes problems and it
made for a faster drive into the city.

On 1/19/2014 10:51 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/19/2014 8:17 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 1/19/2014 7:59 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 10:49:01 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a camera detector in my car. I think they were talking about
>>>> banning them but I didn't hear any more.
>>>
>>> Camera detector? I didn't know such a thing existed!
>>
>> I assume if the camera is sending out something to detect
>> you, you can detect that.

> The cameras are at known locations and programmed into the route on the
> gps. Some countries are outlawing that. I've never had one pop up in
> the US, but they are all over the place in Europe. First time ne beeped
> I was not sure what it was, but it was very handy.

Ah, I understand.

All we have where I live are some red light cameras and those
are on the way out, if they aren't already gone.

nancy

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 07:13:13 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote:

> On Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:35:18 PM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> > > wrote in message
> >
> >
>
> Stitches for cataract surgery? How long ago was this?

I dunno. Maybe 4 years ago.

> I've never heard of it.

Now you have.

> They use ultrasound to break up the natural lens, and then insert the new one. You have to be awake so you can look in the direction the surgeon wants you to.
>

I was not awake. One eye was completely covered and I couldn't see
out of the other. They pried the eye they operated on wide open and
all I know it that it hurt like hell when the anesthesia wore off. No
one has ever mentioned having an eye frozen and being awake during the
procedure - so my experience of being knocked out is not out of the
norm among the people I know.

> I had both mine done; no pain at all, no discomfort - actually, I drove myself home both times with a hard shield over the eye. In this state, you can be blind in one eye and still get a driver's license.
>
No discomfort afterward, but it hurt like hell when I woke up too soon
and I'm not eager to repeat that experience.


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On 2014-01-19 9:51 AM, wrote:

>> Which reminds me - mine is due for renewal some time this year - Ugh!
>
> Wow what a performance. On the year (once every ten years) you have
> to actually go to DMV you line up (I always feel that is deliberate,
> they spend plenty of tax dollars but not seemingly on clerks to serve
> the tax payers) and she/he operates the camera, may ask you to move a
> bit left or right, click click and you can say which you prefer.

Our licenses are only good for 5 years. You may not believe it, but some
people change with age. Just thinking of the son of a friend of mine
who visited us a couple years showed me his green card, still with the
photo taken when his father moved the family down to Texas about 30
years earlier when he was about 8.
>
> I assume it's the same method for criminal pics at the police station
> because that's what my drivers licence looks like. Then again, I have
> never seen anyone who had a good one so it really doesn't bother me to
> use it for ID


I have looked at many thousands of driver license photos. Not of them
look great. Some of them are downright scary.



> Then you return to your seat and about five minutes
> later when your number shows you go to another desk and are handed
> your laminated plastic card.

We get our old one back with a sticker on it saying it is valid for
photo ID only and a paper temporary. The new license comes in the mail
in a week or two.

On 1/19/2014 8:26 AM, Gary wrote:
>
>>>> We can renew our (driver's) license on line.
>>>
>>> We can too every so often. I think it is every other time. But then they
>>> make you go in and get a new pic and stuff.
>>
>> Same here, every other time have to go in and submit to the camera.
>
> In Virginia (USA) you can renew by mail or online but every so often
> you have to go in for a vision test.
>
> G.
>
I skip the vision test by having my eye doctor sign something. Renewing
my license at age 40 was how I found out I needed glasses for driving. I
couldn't pass the eye test.

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On 1/19/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> We had photo radar here for a while. It was portable. They had vans that
> set up along the major highways along the main corridors through
> southern Ontario. It was great. I never got caught. They had a threshold
> of about 10 kph over the limit. Everyone moved along at the same speed.
> It eliminated most of the traffic weaving that causes problems and it
> made for a faster drive into the city.

Opposite here Dave. When drivers are approaching a speed camera they
slow down to like 10 mph under the speed limit for some reason.

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On 2014-01-19 4:41 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 1/19/2014 8:26 AM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>>>> We can renew our (driver's) license on line.
>>>>
>>>> We can too every so often. I think it is every other time. But
>>>> then they
>>>> make you go in and get a new pic and stuff.
>>>
>>> Same here, every other time have to go in and submit to the camera.
>>
>> In Virginia (USA) you can renew by mail or online but every so often
>> you have to go in for a vision test.
>>
>> G.
>>
> I skip the vision test by having my eye doctor sign something. Renewing
> my license at age 40 was how I found out I needed glasses for driving. I
> couldn't pass the eye test.



The orthorater at a driver exam centre is just a screening device. If
you don't meet the standards on that one you go to an optometrist. If
you go in with glasses they don't bother testing. You already have the X
condition. It is quite possible to go in with glasses that do not
correct to the standards. When I went in with glasses they automatically
put the X on my license.

On 2014-01-19 4:50 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 1/19/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> We had photo radar here for a while. It was portable. They had vans that
>> set up along the major highways along the main corridors through
>> southern Ontario. It was great. I never got caught. They had a threshold
>> of about 10 kph over the limit. Everyone moved along at the same speed.
>> It eliminated most of the traffic weaving that causes problems and it
>> made for a faster drive into the city.
>
> Opposite here Dave. When drivers are approaching a speed camera they
> slow down to like 10 mph under the speed limit for some reason.
>

We only had it for a year or two, and only on main corridors. It moved
around so it was hard to tell where to expect it. A change in
governments got rid of it and they would not release the stats on the
reduction in accidents and money save on emergency responses and
injuries, but I had access to the information and it did reduce accidents.

I had some issues with it. It took 2-3 weeks for a person to get the
ticket delivered. If someone had a lead food and was not paying enough
attention to see flash it is conceivable that they could be flashed
every day for two weeks, and then the tickets would start showing up
every day for two weeks and there was no opportunity for the person to
decide to comply.

Look at my case of a photo radar ticket. It was dated May 11 and I got
it in the mail in October, 5 months later.


I was in a bind a couple years before that when I was travelling with my
brothers and we were on the Autobahn and in two cars. For some reason,
despite being geographically challenged and not having the other brother
as navigator, he was in the lead. It was hard keepign up with him. Long
stretches of the Autobahn have no speed limit, but there are stretches
of it that have limits, like 130, 120, 100. He didn't slow down. If I
slowed down we would get separated. If we got caught by photo radar we
would be getting tickets later on. We might be getting them in every
speed limit zone we sped through. Other brother and I decided that if he
didn't slow down and we got speeding tickets the other would be
paying... the cars were both rented in his name.

In article >,
Julie Bove > wrote:
>
>"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
. ..
>
>> Yes, now they make all of their money on Big Gulps and stuff in
>> the convenience store. As the movie theaters make all of their
>> money on the concession stand.
>
>I just don't get the appeal of movie theaters any more. If you wait long
>enough, you can see the movie in the convenience of your own home for free
>and you can even eat good popcorn and not have to heft around a beverage
>that is an accident waiting to happen!

I don't eat anything in movie theaters. Generally, we wait for most
movies to come out on DVD. But we do like to go to the theature to
see movies that have good special effects.

Cindy Hamilton
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On 1/19/2014 8:17 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 08:59:20 -0400, lucretiaborgia wrote:
>
>
>> Same here, every other time have to go in and submit to the camera.
>
> We should be so lucky in my neck of the woods; every five years we have to
> go and stand in queues for hours on end to renew our driver's licenses
> (DLs), with new mugshots in hand which cost more than a few bucks, take an
> eye test and then fork out a bunch of money to renew them (which can only
> be paid by standing in yet another queue). Then we have to wait 6-8 weeks
> (often longer) for the new DL cards to be issued - and stand in line again
> to collect them...
>
> Which reminds me - mine is due for renewal some time this year - Ugh!
>
And here I thought drivers license photos were always wonderful. LOL
'Mugshots' is a good term for it. The process is so regimented, it does
feel like you're checking in for a prison ID.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/19/2014 8:17 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 08:59:20 -0400, lucretiaborgia wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Same here, every other time have to go in and submit to the camera.
>>
>> We should be so lucky in my neck of the woods; every five years we have
>> to
>> go and stand in queues for hours on end to renew our driver's licenses
>> (DLs), with new mugshots in hand which cost more than a few bucks, take
>> an
>> eye test and then fork out a bunch of money to renew them (which can only
>> be paid by standing in yet another queue). Then we have to wait 6-8 weeks
>> (often longer) for the new DL cards to be issued - and stand in line
>> again
>> to collect them...
>>
>> Which reminds me - mine is due for renewal some time this year - Ugh!
>>
> And here I thought drivers license photos were always wonderful. LOL
> 'Mugshots' is a good term for it. The process is so regimented, it does
> feel like you're checking in for a prison ID.

All good experience ... just in case ...;p

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On 1/19/2014 10:17 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 1/19/2014 8:17 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>
>> We should be so lucky in my neck of the woods; every five years we
>> have to
>> go and stand in queues for hours on end to renew our driver's licenses
>> (DLs), with new mugshots in hand which cost more than a few bucks,
>> take an
>> eye test and then fork out a bunch of money to renew them (which can only
>> be paid by standing in yet another queue). Then we have to wait 6-8 weeks
>> (often longer) for the new DL cards to be issued - and stand in line
>> again
>> to collect them...
>
> That sounds awful. My state used to have badly run motor vehicle
> offices, not as bad as NYC, but still pretty bad. They were
> overhauled maybe 10 years ago and now I can't believe how easily
> things run. Someone greets you at the door, why are you here?
> You need to fill this form out and go to that window. Sure you
> might wait in line, but it's one line and it moves.
>
> Should be even better now as they've finally gone back to renewing
> licenses online or through the mail. For a while there, we had
> to bring several forms of ID, in person, to make sure we weren't
> terrorists or something.
>
> nancy
>
After 9/11 that is understandable.

I used to renew my driver's license online when I lived in TN. I fail
to see how a five or 10 year old picture of anyone could possibly serve
as a valid photo ID. My SC license expires in 2020. I'll have to wait
to see if I can renew it online.

Jill

On 1/19/2014 6:09 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-01-19 4:41 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 1/19/2014 8:26 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> We can renew our (driver's) license on line.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can too every so often. I think it is every other time. But
>>>>> then they
>>>>> make you go in and get a new pic and stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Same here, every other time have to go in and submit to the camera.
>>>
>>> In Virginia (USA) you can renew by mail or online but every so often
>>> you have to go in for a vision test.
>>>
>>> G.
>>>
>> I skip the vision test by having my eye doctor sign something. Renewing
>> my license at age 40 was how I found out I needed glasses for driving. I
>> couldn't pass the eye test.
>
>
>
> The orthorater at a driver exam centre is just a screening device. If
> you don't meet the standards on that one you go to an optometrist. If
> you go in with glasses they don't bother testing. You already have the X
> condition. It is quite possible to go in with glasses that do not
> correct to the standards. When I went in with glasses they automatically
> put the X on my license.
>
>
That's not true everywhere, Dave. I wear glasses pretty much all the
time... when I'm awake. I don't know how accurate it was but the SC
DMV had me take an eye test. They didn't just automatically check 'X'
in a box on my license because I was wearing glasses.

Jill

On 1/20/2014 5:53 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/19/2014 10:17 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> Should be even better now as they've finally gone back to renewing
>> licenses online or through the mail. For a while there, we had
>> to bring several forms of ID, in person, to make sure we weren't
>> terrorists or something.

> After 9/11 that is understandable.

I had no problem with that, let's clear the decks and make sure
all our IDs are vetted.

But then why have to keep doing it over and over.

Pathetically, the very office where they gave me the fish eye,
studying my documents like I was trying to smuggle in dirty
bombs, some people were caught selling drivers licenses to
undocumented aliens.

> I used to renew my driver's license online when I lived in TN. I fail
> to see how a five or 10 year old picture of anyone could possibly serve
> as a valid photo ID. My SC license expires in 2020. I'll have to wait
> to see if I can renew it online.

Hey, no one looks like their photo anyway. (laugh) What's the
difference.

nancy

On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:58:44 AM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> I was surprised when I was at Publix on Sunday at the number of women
>
> who had their purses sitting on the seat in their shopping carts. One
>
> woman parked her cart at an end-cap and walked off to peruse the milk case!
>
>
>
> I'm sufficiently paranoid that I would *never* set my purse in my cart,
>
> much less turn my back on it. What say you?

(I know she has me kill-filed but for once she wrote something interesting so I shall respond!)

They make the purses too Goddamned big nowadays. All I need is a place to put my billfold, sun-glasses case, pen, shopping list, ads, and nowadays, a cell-phone (one needs that stupid thing because you can't find a pay phone anymore and everyone is so ****ing rude). Why do I need a side of a cow for a purse? I cannot find a small bag.

Has anyone else seen this thing of the young probably 20 year old "men" walking into places holding a giant purse? And behind the pussy is usually a young "lady" hollering into a cell phone?

What is wrong with people?

On 1/18/2014 4:31 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 20:32:12 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>> Good grief! My eyes were frozen. I was awake but I was given a jag so I
>> just didn't care what was happening. I was away in Happy Land <g>
>
> My eye was frozen but I wasn't anesthetized though, completely live.
>
When my brother had lasic surgery years ago he wanted me to be in the
room with him. They gave him a shot in each eye. He was awake. They
were describing what they were doing. When they said they were going to
peel back the cornea I had to bolt from the room. "I'll be just
outside!" LOL

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/18/2014 4:31 PM, wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 20:32:12 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Good grief! My eyes were frozen. I was awake but I was given a jag so
>>> I
>>> just didn't care what was happening. I was away in Happy Land <g>
>>
>> My eye was frozen but I wasn't anesthetized though, completely live.
>>
> When my brother had lasic surgery years ago he wanted me to be in the room
> with him. They gave him a shot in each eye. He was awake. They were
> describing what they were doing. When they said they were going to peel
> back the cornea I had to bolt from the room. "I'll be just outside!" LOL

<g> DH stayed with me all the time)

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> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:21:55 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 1/18/2014 4:31 PM, wrote:
>>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 20:32:12 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good grief! My eyes were frozen. I was awake but I was given a jag so
>>>> I
>>>> just didn't care what was happening. I was away in Happy Land <g>
>>>
>>> My eye was frozen but I wasn't anesthetized though, completely live.
>>>
>>When my brother had lasic surgery years ago he wanted me to be in the
>>room with him. They gave him a shot in each eye. He was awake. They
>>were describing what they were doing. When they said they were going to
>>peel back the cornea I had to bolt from the room. "I'll be just
>>outside!" LOL
>>
>>Jill
>
> Lol - I have a good stomach - last year when they took the knuckle out
> of my thumb I was going to go with just a pain blocker because I
> thought I could watch. He told me I couldn't, there would be a
> screen, they don't let patients watch, so I said fine, I'll go with
> the anesthetic then, too boring lying there not being able to see what
> was going on.

I am squeamish and will always go to the anaesthetic! I don't want to see
*anything* !!!


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On 2014-01-21 9:50 AM, wrote:

> Lol - I have a good stomach - last year when they took the knuckle out
> of my thumb I was going to go with just a pain blocker because I
> thought I could watch. He told me I couldn't, there would be a
> screen, they don't let patients watch, so I said fine, I'll go with
> the anesthetic then, too boring lying there not being able to see what
> was going on.
>
Good sedatives make time fly. When I got sedated for a root canal I
thought it took 10 minutes. My wife said it was more than two hours.
Likewise with angiogram. I was hooked up to IV sedatives and the three
hour wait from prep to procedure flew by like minutes. Then when they
screwed up and had to prep me for emergency surgery it felt like 10
minutes but was over an hour.

On 1/21/2014 10:33 AM, wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:17:50 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>>
>> Good sedatives make time fly. When I got sedated for a root canal I
>> thought it took 10 minutes. My wife said it was more than two hours.
>> Likewise with angiogram. I was hooked up to IV sedatives and the three
>> hour wait from prep to procedure flew by like minutes. Then when they
>> screwed up and had to prep me for emergency surgery it felt like 10
>> minutes but was over an hour.
>
> That's dependant though on being able to handle sedatives - anything
> opiate disagrees with me violently.
>
> Another polar vortex on it's way I see, keep that up there will ya ?
> We have two big blizzards, one tonight and one Friday, so we're doing
> our share.
>
Somehow I don't think Dave is in charge of the polar vortex.

Just got notice to drip all the outside faucets tonight. PITA since
there are five of them. (I have no idea why there are so many.) Low
tonight 28°F. *I'll drip the faucets* but I don't think there is much
to worry about. The temps have been in the 60's for over a week.
Allegedly it will be 47°F tomorrow.

That might be a good time to make the oxtail soup/stew! They're still
in the freezer. It got entirely too warm for me to think about oxtails
after I bought them.

Jill

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 23:38:21 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

>On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:58:44 AM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>> I was surprised when I was at Publix on Sunday at the number of women
>>
>> who had their purses sitting on the seat in their shopping carts. One
>>
>> woman parked her cart at an end-cap and walked off to peruse the milk case!
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm sufficiently paranoid that I would *never* set my purse in my cart,
>>
>> much less turn my back on it. What say you?
>
>(I know she has me kill-filed but for once she wrote something interesting so I shall respond!)
>
>They make the purses too Goddamned big nowadays. All I need is a place to put my billfold, sun-glasses case, pen, shopping list, ads, and nowadays, a cell-phone (one needs that stupid thing because you can't find a pay phone anymore and everyone is so ****ing rude). Why do I need a side of a cow for a purse? I cannot find a small bag.
>
>Has anyone else seen this thing of the young probably 20 year old "men" walking into places holding a giant purse? And behind the pussy is usually a young "lady" hollering into a cell phone?
>
>What is wrong with people?

I've been carrying a "man-bag" for nearly 50 years... a smallish
leather shoulder bag that holds all my vital stuff; check books,
wallet, pens, folding scissors, small phone book, band aids,
toothbrush and paste, Rx drugs, and other necessaries... and now even
a Trac phone. WTF are men supposed to carry stuff... I see guys with
huge wads of stuff in a back pocket, looks like they have ass
cancer... and then they pull out a thing wrapped in a gazillion
rubberbands that's mostly bits/scraps of paper what looks like used
TP.
Duluthtrading.com has some great bags, called travel/field bags...
works for men and women:
http://www.duluthtrading.com/search/...cessor=content

wrote:
>
> Lol - I have a good stomach - last year when they took the knuckle out
> of my thumb...

Arrgghhh! They took the knuckle out of your thumb? Why was that
necessary?

G.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> I've been carrying a "man-bag" for nearly 50 years...

You sissy!

G.

Cheryl, using a doctor's note instead of an eye exam would never work here in Iowa. Why don't you just take the vision test?

The thing I hate the most is that regardless of a flawless driving record, I have to physically show up for the license
renewal and vision test every two years because I reached the threshold of 72 years of age. Getting old isn't all it is
cracked up to be. :-)

N.

> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:35:57 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Lol - I have a good stomach - last year when they took the knuckle out
>>> of my thumb...
>>
>>Arrgghhh! They took the knuckle out of your thumb? Why was that
>>necessary?
>>
>>G.
>
> It was so damaged with arthritis, and constantly painful. They then
> stretch some tendon to replace it and as far as I am concerned, it was
> a wonderful op! I now have no pain, full mobility of my thumb,
> perhaps the only down would be that hand cannot support the weight it
> used to, but no big deal.

I am so pleased it worked out well for you


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On 1/21/2014 5:42 PM, Nancy2 wrote:

> Cheryl, using a doctor's note instead of an eye exam would never work
> here in Iowa. Why don't you just take the vision test?
>
> The thing I hate the most is that regardless of a flawless driving
> record, I have to physically show up for the license renewal and
> vision test every two years because I reached the threshold of 72
> years of age. Getting old isn't all it is cracked up to be. :-)
>
> N.
>
It's quicker to just hand them a piece of paper rather than take the
test. In and out quicker, if that's possible. It's allowed here in MD.

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On 1/21/2014 9:50 AM, wrote:

> Lol - I have a good stomach - last year when they took the knuckle out
> of my thumb I was going to go with just a pain blocker because I
> thought I could watch. He told me I couldn't, there would be a
> screen, they don't let patients watch, so I said fine, I'll go with
> the anesthetic then, too boring lying there not being able to see what
> was going on.

That kind of thing doesn't bother me, either. When I had to have
surgery to shave down a bone spur in my big toe I found out afterwards
that I could have just had a pain block and watch the procedure, but
before the surgery the anesthesiologist never gave me that option. I
would have loved to watch it being done.

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On 1/21/2014 10:17 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
> Good sedatives make time fly. When I got sedated for a root canal I
> thought it took 10 minutes. My wife said it was more than two hours.
> Likewise with angiogram. I was hooked up to IV sedatives and the three
> hour wait from prep to procedure flew by like minutes. Then when they
> screwed up and had to prep me for emergency surgery it felt like 10
> minutes but was over an hour.

Same with a colonoscopy. I'd rather be knocked out because I'd be
feeling embarrassed with what they were doing to me. lol Plus, they
gave me fentanol for my back pain intravenously, and that pain relief
lasted all day.

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On 1/21/2014 10:58 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> Just got notice to drip all the outside faucets tonight. PITA since
> there are five of them. (I have no idea why there are so many.) Low
> tonight 28°F. *I'll drip the faucets* but I don't think there is much to
> worry about. The temps have been in the 60's for over a week. Allegedly
> it will be 47°F tomorrow.

Just a little north of you the temp is 8F right now. This winter has
already damaged my pickup truck just from the cold temps and how little
I drive these days. I got to use my 4wd today for the first time in a
couple of years, though. This reminds me that I need to go out and start
the truck and run it for a bit because I have to go out in the morning.

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On 1/21/2014 5:42 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> Cheryl, using a doctor's note instead of an eye exam would never work here in Iowa. Why don't you just take the vision test?
>
> The thing I hate the most is that regardless of a flawless driving record, I have to physically show up for the license
> renewal and vision test every two years because I reached the threshold of 72 years of age. Getting old isn't all it is
> cracked up to be. :-)
>



I worked for a short time as a driver examiner. It was a three month
secondment. We used to reserve Wednesday morning for senior drivers.
Everyone over 80 and those over 70 who had had an accident had to do the
yearly written and road tests. I quickly learned to hate Wednesday
mornings and getting into a car every 20-30 minutes with a person who
had acquired 60 years of bad driving habits.

We had several regulars. They would start coming a month or two before
their license expired and do the tests at least a half down times before
they passed. There was one guy who we ended up refusing to go out with.
He actually got pulled over by the cops during my road test with him.

On 1/22/2014 9:19 PM, Cheryl wrote:

> Just a little north of you the temp is 8F right now. This winter has
> already damaged my pickup truck just from the cold temps and how little
> I drive these days. I got to use my 4wd today for the first time in a
> couple of years, though. This reminds me that I need to go out and start
> the truck and run it for a bit because I have to go out in the morning.
>
If it doesn't get used much in the winter and you are going to start it
up let it run long enough to charge up the battery and heat up the
exhaust. Otherwise, all you are doing is running down the battery a bit
more and filling your muffler with moisture that will condense and speed
up corrosion. Warming up the engine tonight won't do much for tomorrow.
It will be cooled off again long before morning.

On 1/22/2014 9:16 PM, Cheryl wrote:

>
> Same with a colonoscopy. I'd rather be knocked out because I'd be
> feeling embarrassed with what they were doing to me. lol Plus, they
> gave me fentanol for my back pain intravenously, and that pain relief
> lasted all day.
>
First one I had was a partial. I watched the probe going through on a
tv screen. Like watching some strange sci-fi thing.

On 1/22/2014 9:54 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/22/2014 9:16 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>
>>
>> Same with a colonoscopy. I'd rather be knocked out because I'd be
>> feeling embarrassed with what they were doing to me. lol Plus, they
>> gave me fentanol for my back pain intravenously, and that pain relief
>> lasted all day.
>>
> First one I had was a partial. I watched the probe going through on a
> tv screen. Like watching some strange sci-fi thing.

I chose to be knocked out for my recent colonoscopy. Before i was out,
though, I asked the doctor for a demonstration of the equipment. I was
amazed (don't know why!) that the controls for the probe were very much
game controls. it was fun to watch the doctor manipulate the controls
and see the actual probe moving around like a snake.

I wasn't given a choice for the endoscopy a few days later. Full
anesthesia for that one.

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On 1/22/2014 10:54 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> First one I had was a partial. I watched the probe going through on
> a tv screen. Like watching some strange sci-fi thing.

When I had mine, I think the term they used was twilight.
I was out enough so that when I came to not much later I
thought, essentially, There are people in the room, don't move
till you figure out who they are. Took me a second to
remember where I was.

That's out enough for me for something like that. I don't
need to see what's going on.

nancy

Nancy2 wrote:
>
> Cheryl, using a doctor's note instead of an eye exam would never work here in Iowa.

Why not... any MD is qualified to administer that eye chart test. In
NY you can have your eyes vision tested for the DMV at any eye
doctor's office of your choosing (Opthamologist or Optometrist), the
doctor will fill out and sign the necessary forms... you should have
your eyes examined every year anyway. The DMV doesn't administer an
eye exam, they merely have a clerk check your vision with an eye
chart. And remember, any MD can and will notify the DMV to pull your
driver's licence for myriad medical reasons other than vision... in
fact all MDs are required by law to notify the DMV of a patient's
medical condition deemed unsafe to operate a motor vehicle.

I had my wallet disappear on the last day of my vacation last Spring. When I got back I was able to order a replacement from the Virginia DMV website.. They mailed it to my address of record. No trouble at all. In fact, they provided a pdf to printout saying the replacement was on order, so I could drive in the mean time.

I was on their web site checking hours and locations of DMV offices because I assumed I was going to have to go in person and wait forever, etc. But, there was a link for "Replace Lost License." Easy peasy.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, VA