On 1/17/2014 10:48 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 1/17/2014 10:11 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2014-01-17 6:50 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 08:38:55 -0800, Roy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You carry a GPS with you all the time? Good Heavenly Khrist...never
>>>>> heard of such a thing.
>>>>
>>>> Don't you know that a lot (not all) females suffer from a disease
>>>> called
>>>> "Nosenseofdirection"? And I even know some males that suffer from it
>>>> too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And men suffer from "requestdirectionphobia". ;-)
>>>
>>> I have a pretty good sense of direction. Maybe it is because I was in
>>> the reserves and had to learn map reading. I spent most of the 28 years
>>> of my career driving around this region and I have a map of it in my
>>> head. I can picture where I am, where I am going and the roads I need
>>> to take there.
>>>
>>> My wife is really bad at directions. It was even a challenge to get her
>>> a GPS because he his as technologically challenged as she is
>>> geographically challenged.
>>>
>> After John and I were at an art show in Burnsville, MN, we went over
>> the same bridge (scary, it was the one that collapsed) at least three
>> times. I kept telling him, there's the off ramp! It's right there!
>> He kept driving right past it. Dammit, when I say hang right, hang a
>> right!
>
> oh dear lol
>
>> No GPS. I'm good at maps and navigating. He's not as good at
>> following directions.
>
> I bet if you slapped him he would move fast ..... <g>
>
> Violent O
>
I wouldn't slap him. But I did yell at him. TURN! It's RIGHT THERE!

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/17/2014 10:48 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 1/17/2014 10:11 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2014-01-17 6:50 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 08:38:55 -0800, Roy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You carry a GPS with you all the time? Good Heavenly Khrist...never
>>>>>> heard of such a thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't you know that a lot (not all) females suffer from a disease
>>>>> called
>>>>> "Nosenseofdirection"? And I even know some males that suffer from it
>>>>> too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And men suffer from "requestdirectionphobia". ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I have a pretty good sense of direction. Maybe it is because I was in
>>>> the reserves and had to learn map reading. I spent most of the 28 years
>>>> of my career driving around this region and I have a map of it in my
>>>> head. I can picture where I am, where I am going and the roads I need
>>>> to take there.
>>>>
>>>> My wife is really bad at directions. It was even a challenge to get her
>>>> a GPS because he his as technologically challenged as she is
>>>> geographically challenged.
>>>>
>>> After John and I were at an art show in Burnsville, MN, we went over
>>> the same bridge (scary, it was the one that collapsed) at least three
>>> times. I kept telling him, there's the off ramp! It's right there!
>>> He kept driving right past it. Dammit, when I say hang right, hang a
>>> right!
>>
>> oh dear lol
>>
>>> No GPS. I'm good at maps and navigating. He's not as good at
>>> following directions.
>>
>> I bet if you slapped him he would move fast ..... <g>
>>
>> Violent O
>>
> I wouldn't slap him. But I did yell at him. TURN! It's RIGHT THERE!

Same thing)

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On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 12:08:46 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 1/17/2014 10:42 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On 1/17/2014 10:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> On 1/17/2014 9:47 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:09:21 -0000, "Ophelia"
> >>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> > But since I was on my own, I decided to go bag some things up
> >>>>>>> while
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> > cashier continued to ring stuff up. After I filled two bags, I
> >>>>>>> went > back
> >>>>>>> > near the register where I was horrified to see that I had laid
> >>>>>>> my >
> >>>>>>> wallet
> >>>>>>> > there where one would write checks. Eek! I did the very thing
> >>>>>>> that > I
> >>>>>>> > accused others of doing and yet I wasn't even aware that I had
> >>>>>>> done
> >>>>>>> it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hopefully that was such a shock you won't do it again!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I hadn't done anything like that in years, but I did it with both my
> >>>>>> wallet and my car keys (different stores, different days) this week.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Oh(( In the past two week I have left my debit card in the reader
> >>>>> and and once someone had to chase after me with it
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> That's different. Here we just swipe our cards, there's no "reader"
> >>>> to leave it in. At least none I've ever encountered.
> >>>
> >>> Those are available here but I don't want one!
> >>>
> >>> Cue everyone telling me how wonderful they are and how easy they are to
> >>> use ... but I don't care! I don't want one!
> >>>
> >>> Stubborn O
> >>>
> >>>
> >> See, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't have anything
> >> special. I just swipe my debit/credit card through a reader, it
> >> registers, I put the card back in my wallet. That's all there is to
> >> it, except sometimes entering my PIN.
> >
> > Well to enter the pin you have to insert the thing don't you?
> >
> Uh, no. I swipe it through the reader. It asks for my PIN if I select
> Debit. The card doesn't stay IN the reader.
>
I was thinking she meant this type by "insert"
http://consumertraveler.com/wp-content/uploads/atm.jpg
and you meant this type by "swipe"
<http://www.taylormarsh.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/thanks-for-paying-hidden-bank-fees.jpg>
Chip technology is not widespread in the USA, so our credit cards are
more vulnerable than those used by the rest of the world.

I don't use a debit card, so I never need to enter a PIN.


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On 1/17/2014 11:21 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 1/17/2014 10:38 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 1/17/2014 10:11 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 1/17/2014 10:03 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 1/17/2014 9:37 AM, sf wrote:
>>>
>>>>> My husband has a horrible sense of direction.
>>>>>
>>>> I can always find my way home... eventually
>>>
>>> Unless I'm supposed to be somewhere on time, I enjoy
>>> getting 'lost' ... I just love driving around. You see
>>> stuff you didn't know was there. Unless I'm lost in
>>> the desert or something, I'll find my way back no problem.
>>>
>> Yes, it doesn't count as 'lost' unless there's a time factor involved!
>
> Agreed! And I like to see where this road goes.
>
> nancy
>
Until the road leads to a dirt track (muddy and with ruts) which leads
to nowhere you want to go. LOL That's when you find a place to turn
around and go back. BTDT on some roads on Saint Helena out past the
tomato fields.

Jill

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:58:50 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:16:24 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On 1/17/2014 9:47 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh(( In the past two week I have left my debit card in the reader
> >> >> and and once someone had to chase after me with it
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> > That's different. Here we just swipe our cards, there's no "reader" to
> >> > leave it in. At least none I've ever encountered.
> >>
> >> Those are available here but I don't want one!
> >>
> >> Cue everyone telling me how wonderful they are and how easy they are to
> >> use
> >> ... but I don't care! I don't want one!
> >>
> >> Stubborn O
> >
> > We swipe at the grocery and other retail stores, have readers at the
> > ATM and gas pump. Looks like our credit card industry may finally
> > catch up to the rest of the world now that so many large companies
> > have been breeched.
> > http://www.creditcards.com/credit-ca...ology-1276.php
>
> Seems a lot of people here are like me, unlike me they are not given a
> choice by their banks.

What choice are you talking about?


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 12:08:46 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/17/2014 10:42 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> On 1/17/2014 10:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> >>> ...
>> >>>> On 1/17/2014 9:47 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> >>>>> ...
>> >>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:09:21 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> >>>>>> > wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> > But since I was on my own, I decided to go bag some things up
>> >>>>>>> while
>> >>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>> > cashier continued to ring stuff up. After I filled two bags, I
>> >>>>>>> went > back
>> >>>>>>> > near the register where I was horrified to see that I had laid
>> >>>>>>> my >
>> >>>>>>> wallet
>> >>>>>>> > there where one would write checks. Eek! I did the very thing
>> >>>>>>> that > I
>> >>>>>>> > accused others of doing and yet I wasn't even aware that I had
>> >>>>>>> done
>> >>>>>>> it.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hopefully that was such a shock you won't do it again!!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I hadn't done anything like that in years, but I did it with both
>> >>>>>> my
>> >>>>>> wallet and my car keys (different stores, different days) this
>> >>>>>> week.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Oh(( In the past two week I have left my debit card in the
>> >>>>> reader
>> >>>>> and and once someone had to chase after me with it
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> That's different. Here we just swipe our cards, there's no "reader"
>> >>>> to leave it in. At least none I've ever encountered.
>> >>>
>> >>> Those are available here but I don't want one!
>> >>>
>> >>> Cue everyone telling me how wonderful they are and how easy they are
>> >>> to
>> >>> use ... but I don't care! I don't want one!
>> >>>
>> >>> Stubborn O
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> See, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't have anything
>> >> special. I just swipe my debit/credit card through a reader, it
>> >> registers, I put the card back in my wallet. That's all there is to
>> >> it, except sometimes entering my PIN.
>> >
>> > Well to enter the pin you have to insert the thing don't you?
>> >
>> Uh, no. I swipe it through the reader. It asks for my PIN if I select
>> Debit. The card doesn't stay IN the reader.
>>
> I was thinking she meant this type by "insert"
> http://consumertraveler.com/wp-content/uploads/atm.jpg

Yes we have those in banks. We also have something similar in shops. Look
here,

http://www.chipandpin-machines.com/h...ll-businesses/

Look at: "Option 1 - Accepting Credit and Debit Cards with a Merchant
Account"

They are usually mounted on a a stand
..
Those can also be used as contactless payment reader and can be swiped

I prefer to use the one I put my card into.



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"sf" > wrote in message

>> Seems a lot of people here are like me, unlike me they are not given a
>> choice by their banks.
>
> What choice are you talking about?

Whether to have a card that uses a pin or a swipeble one.

We decline but other banks give no choice.

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On 1/17/2014 11:21 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 1/17/2014 10:38 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 1/17/2014 10:11 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 1/17/2014 10:03 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 1/17/2014 9:37 AM, sf wrote:
>>>
>>>>> My husband has a horrible sense of direction.
>>>>>
>>>> I can always find my way home... eventually
>>>
>>> Unless I'm supposed to be somewhere on time, I enjoy
>>> getting 'lost' ... I just love driving around. You see
>>> stuff you didn't know was there. Unless I'm lost in
>>> the desert or something, I'll find my way back no problem.
>>>
>> Yes, it doesn't count as 'lost' unless there's a time factor involved!
>
> Agreed! And I like to see where this road goes.
>
Exactly!

On Friday, January 17, 2014 7:45:09 AM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/17/2014 9:36 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> > ...
>
> >> On 1/17/2014 5:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>
> >>> ...
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>
> >>>> ...
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>
> >>>>> ...
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>>> So, as I was driving to my friends house, with my purse on the
>
> >>>>>> passenger seat, some crazy looking older guy who was dressed for
>
> >>>>>> jogging, leaped out of seemingly nowhere as I rounded a corner. Not
>
> >>>>>> sure what his intentions were but he managed to get the passenger
>
> >>>>>> door open. Thankfully it was a cold day and there was an ice puddle
>
> >>>>>> in the street. He apparently did not notice this and his feet
>
> >>>>>> slipped out from under him.
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> You were very lucky he did slip ( That is very frightening
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>> Yes. Alas, that corner was one I had to drive around to go see my
>
> >>>> dad. In my mind I will always see that guy there. Even though he
>
> >>>> isn't now.
>
> >>
>
> >> (queue Twilight Zone theme) - anyone remember that episode where the
>
> >> woman kept seeing the same hitchhiker around every corner?
>
> >
>
> > Noooooooooooo and I don't want toooooooooooooooooooo!
>
> >
>
> >
>
> Oh come on, Ophelia! If you get the urge for something spooky, albeit
>
> rather predictable, you can watch it he
>
> http://vimeo.com/40033077
>
> Jill

Geez, now you had to do it...I just downloaded the whole video...
hadn't seen that for years. Spooky is right.
===

On 1/17/2014 12:22 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/17/2014 11:21 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> Agreed! And I like to see where this road goes.

> Until the road leads to a dirt track (muddy and with ruts) which leads
> to nowhere you want to go. LOL That's when you find a place to turn
> around and go back. BTDT on some roads on Saint Helena out past the
> tomato fields.

Sounds great to me. I would certainly turn around before I
went too far and wound up in mud.

nancy

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 17:37:34 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
>
> >> Seems a lot of people here are like me, unlike me they are not given a
> >> choice by their banks.
> >
> > What choice are you talking about?
>
> Whether to have a card that uses a pin or a swipeble one.
>
> We decline but other banks give no choice.

Decline a PIN? Does a PIN make it a dual purpose debit/credit card?
They are very "unwise" to have for the security of your checking
account. I don't know if all the news about breeches in security of
Target's system and now it's slowly leaking out that other huge
companies have been compromised too. We only have one debit card
which is used for cash withdrawals from the bank's ATM. I charge
almost everything I buy on *one* card and that card is paid off at the
end of the month.


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"Roy" > wrote in message
...

>> Oh come on, Ophelia! If you get the urge for something spooky, albeit
>>
>> rather predictable, you can watch it he
>>
>> http://vimeo.com/40033077
>>
>> Jill
>
> Geez, now you had to do it...I just downloaded the whole video...
> hadn't seen that for years. Spooky is right.

I see ... so just HOW spooky is it???


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On 1/14/2014 7:58 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> I was surprised when I was at Publix on Sunday at the number of women
> who had their purses sitting on the seat in their shopping carts. One
> woman parked her cart at an end-cap and walked off to peruse the milk case!
>
> I'm sufficiently paranoid that I would *never* set my purse in my cart,
> much less turn my back on it. What say you?
>
> Jill

I always shopped at Publix when I lived in Florida and I would *never*
leave my purse unattended there. I loved Publix so it wasn't the store,
just the area.

I'm now in a small town in central Missouri and have left my purse
unattended in the shopping cart, but never for long. I think I could
probably walk across the street and my purse would remain untouched, but
too many years in Publix land have made me more wary and cautious that I
probably need to be where I live now.

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On 1/17/2014 5:50 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:

> I have a GPS gizmo which I keep either in my handbag or in the glove
> compartment of my car. If it wasn't for that gizmo I'd probably have ended
> up in a neighboring country by mistake more than once...

I love my GPS, but I would never carry it in my car. It remains inside
until I need it. I can't imagine being caught by surprise and needing
my GPS. Maybe it's because around here in rural Missouri it's kind of
hard to get lost. (-:

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"sf" > wrote in message
...

> They are very "unwise" to have for the security of your checking
> account. I don't know if all the news about breeches in security of
> Target's system and now it's slowly leaking out that other huge
> companies have been compromised too. We only have one debit card
> which is used for cash withdrawals from the bank's ATM.
I charge
> almost everything I buy on *one* card and that card is paid off at the
> end of the month.

Same here, or if I am buying something very expensive I will use my credit
card and transfer money across from our account to pay for it. We get
better protection that way.

I am beginning to think we are at cross purposes

Let's clarify a few differences between different types of card in the UK
(and I'd guess some other countries but I don't KNOW that)

We have cards for 2 types of account:

Our 'current account' for which we use a debit card. This card can be used
only for purchases up to the balance in the account plus any previously
agreed overdraft. We can also issue cheques (checks) from this account.

Our 'credit account' for which we use a credit card for purchases up to the
agreed credit limit.

The advantages of using a credit card are that you usually have greater
buyer legal protection and longer to detect and resolve any issues with a
transaction before any money is actually taken from your account. The
disadvantage is the cost if you don't pay off everything outstanding at the
end of the month.

Both of these cards now generally have 2 identification methods, either of
which can be used: a magnetic strip that is read when the card is swiped in
a reader and an electronic chip that is identified when the card is inserted
into a slot in the reader. Either can also require that a PIN is entered to
further authenticate the card but not all of the swipe card machines require
that.

More recently a third 'reading' method has been included, the contactless
card system. This works like a swipe card except it doesn't need to be
swiped, it could be read by the machine even if it is just in your pocket
and you were standing near enough.

This is the card I thought YOU all were referring to!

Unfortunately there are security problems with this as the details can also
be picked up by unauthorised readers nearby and if your pin can also be seen
or detected electronically as you enter it the consequences are obvious.
Some banks have recognised their customers worries about this and give them
the choice of whether or not to have a contactless card - which is promoted
as a convenience - but not all banks give customers that choice and when
they issue a new card it will be contactless whether the customer likes it
or not.

I think I have got it right, but if not, I am sure Graham or Sheila could
correct it.


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On 1/17/2014 1:16 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 1/17/2014 12:22 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 1/17/2014 11:21 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> Agreed! And I like to see where this road goes.
>
>> Until the road leads to a dirt track (muddy and with ruts) which leads
>> to nowhere you want to go. LOL That's when you find a place to turn
>> around and go back. BTDT on some roads on Saint Helena out past the
>> tomato fields.
>
> Sounds great to me. I would certainly turn around before I
> went too far and wound up in mud.
>
> nancy
>
Sometimes the road just ends and uh oh! At least that's the way it is
on some of these off the beaten path roads. (laugh)

I did just drive down Highway 21 towards Fripp Island to get to Henry's
Farm Stand. It was very disappointing. A waste of gasoline as well as
time. I did buy a few things. But I was completely underwhelmed.

Jill

On 1/17/2014 1:14 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Friday, January 17, 2014 7:45:09 AM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 1/17/2014 9:36 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>
>>> ...
>>
>>>> On 1/17/2014 5:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>
>>>>> ...
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>
>>>>>> ...
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>
>>>>>>> ...
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>> So, as I was driving to my friends house, with my purse on the
>>
>>>>>>>> passenger seat, some crazy looking older guy who was dressed for
>>
>>>>>>>> jogging, leaped out of seemingly nowhere as I rounded a corner. Not
>>
>>>>>>>> sure what his intentions were but he managed to get the passenger
>>
>>>>>>>> door open. Thankfully it was a cold day and there was an ice puddle
>>
>>>>>>>> in the street. He apparently did not notice this and his feet
>>
>>>>>>>> slipped out from under him.
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> You were very lucky he did slip ( That is very frightening
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> Yes. Alas, that corner was one I had to drive around to go see my
>>
>>>>>> dad. In my mind I will always see that guy there. Even though he
>>
>>>>>> isn't now.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> (queue Twilight Zone theme) - anyone remember that episode where the
>>
>>>> woman kept seeing the same hitchhiker around every corner?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Noooooooooooo and I don't want toooooooooooooooooooo!
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>> Oh come on, Ophelia! If you get the urge for something spooky, albeit
>>
>> rather predictable, you can watch it he
>>
>> http://vimeo.com/40033077
>>
>> Jill
>
> Geez, now you had to do it...I just downloaded the whole video...
> hadn't seen that for years. Spooky is right.
> ===
>
I love those old cars! The old motels. The "scenic route" is often not
the best one...

Jill

On 1/17/2014 1:17 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>> Oh come on, Ophelia! If you get the urge for something spooky, albeit
>>>
>>> rather predictable, you can watch it he
>>>
>>> http://vimeo.com/40033077
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Geez, now you had to do it...I just downloaded the whole video...
>> hadn't seen that for years. Spooky is right.
>
> I see ... so just HOW spooky is it???
>
>
IMHO, it won't give you nightmares. Unless you're afraid there is
something under your bed...

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/17/2014 1:17 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>> Oh come on, Ophelia! If you get the urge for something spooky, albeit
>>>>
>>>> rather predictable, you can watch it he
>>>>
>>>> http://vimeo.com/40033077
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Geez, now you had to do it...I just downloaded the whole video...
>>> hadn't seen that for years. Spooky is right.
>>
>> I see ... so just HOW spooky is it???
>>
>>
> IMHO, it won't give you nightmares. Unless you're afraid there is
> something under your bed...

Under the bed????
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On Friday, January 17, 2014 12:18:05 PM UTC-7, Ophelia wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On 1/17/2014 1:17 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> "Roy" > wrote in message
>
> >> ...
>
> >>
>
> >>>> Oh come on, Ophelia! If you get the urge for something spooky, albeit
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> rather predictable, you can watch it he
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> http://vimeo.com/40033077
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> Jill
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Geez, now you had to do it...I just downloaded the whole video...
>
> >>> hadn't seen that for years. Spooky is right.
>
> >>
>
> >> I see ... so just HOW spooky is it???
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> > IMHO, it won't give you nightmares. Unless you're afraid there is
>
> > something under your bed...
>
>
>
> Under the bed????

That's where all the monsters dwell...at least that was so when we were kids.
===

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Friday, January 17, 2014 12:18:05 PM UTC-7, Ophelia wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > On 1/17/2014 1:17 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> "Roy" > wrote in message
>>
>> >> ...
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>>> Oh come on, Ophelia! If you get the urge for something spooky,
>> >>>> albeit
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>> rather predictable, you can watch it he
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>> http://vimeo.com/40033077
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>> Jill
>>
>> >>>
>>
>> >>> Geez, now you had to do it...I just downloaded the whole video...
>>
>> >>> hadn't seen that for years. Spooky is right.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> I see ... so just HOW spooky is it???
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> > IMHO, it won't give you nightmares. Unless you're afraid there is
>>
>> > something under your bed...
>>
>>
>>
>> Under the bed????
>
> That's where all the monsters dwell...at least that was so when we were
> kids.

lol
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Ophelia wrote:
>
> "ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
> news
> > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 08:38:55 -0800, Roy wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> You carry a GPS with you all the time? Good Heavenly Khrist...never
> >> heard of such a thing.
> >
> > Don't you know that a lot (not all) females suffer from a disease called
> > "Nosenseofdirection"? And I even know some males that suffer from it too.
>
> I most soitenly do

If you're only driving around your own town though...what a joke to
carry a GPS. It's just another mostly worthless toy.

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 08:38:55 -0800, Roy wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> You carry a GPS with you all the time? Good Heavenly Khrist...never
>> >> heard of such a thing.
>> >
>> > Don't you know that a lot (not all) females suffer from a disease
>> > called
>> > "Nosenseofdirection"? And I even know some males that suffer from it
>> > too.
>>
>> I most soitenly do
>
> If you're only driving around your own town though...what a joke to
> carry a GPS. It's just another mostly worthless toy.

I don't know. What if you are diverted to/via a place you don't know so
well?

Apart from that, my sense of direction is hopeless

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On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 20:29:16 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > Ophelia wrote:
> >>
> >> "ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
> >> news > >> > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 08:38:55 -0800, Roy wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> You carry a GPS with you all the time? Good Heavenly Khrist...never
> >> >> heard of such a thing.
> >> >
> >> > Don't you know that a lot (not all) females suffer from a disease
> >> > called
> >> > "Nosenseofdirection"? And I even know some males that suffer from it
> >> > too.
> >>
> >> I most soitenly do
> >
> > If you're only driving around your own town though...what a joke to
> > carry a GPS. It's just another mostly worthless toy.
>
> I don't know. What if you are diverted to/via a place you don't know so
> well?
>
> Apart from that, my sense of direction is hopeless

When hubby's sister and her husband still lived in town, SIL would
always call her hubby (BIL) at work to ask him how to get here or
there and they were all in town destinations. She needed to write
down everything due to one way streets etc. A GPS system would have
worked for her except she never would have learned how to program it.
The reason I say that is because she has had a cell phone for 10-15
years, barely knows how to answer it and can't even check her voice
mail without someone standing next to her, giving her step by step
instructions.


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 20:29:16 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Ophelia wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
>> >> news >> >> > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 08:38:55 -0800, Roy wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> You carry a GPS with you all the time? Good Heavenly Khrist...never
>> >> >> heard of such a thing.
>> >> >
>> >> > Don't you know that a lot (not all) females suffer from a disease
>> >> > called
>> >> > "Nosenseofdirection"? And I even know some males that suffer from it
>> >> > too.
>> >>
>> >> I most soitenly do
>> >
>> > If you're only driving around your own town though...what a joke to
>> > carry a GPS. It's just another mostly worthless toy.
>>
>> I don't know. What if you are diverted to/via a place you don't know so
>> well?
>>
>> Apart from that, my sense of direction is hopeless
>
> When hubby's sister and her husband still lived in town, SIL would
> always call her hubby (BIL) at work to ask him how to get here or
> there and they were all in town destinations. She needed to write
> down everything due to one way streets etc. A GPS system would have
> worked for her except she never would have learned how to program it.
> The reason I say that is because she has had a cell phone for 10-15
> years, barely knows how to answer it and can't even check her voice
> mail without someone standing next to her, giving her step by ste

Oh I know people like that. I think the techie stuff just scares them.

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On 1/17/2014 2:39 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 20:29:16 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 08:38:55 -0800, Roy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You carry a GPS with you all the time? Good Heavenly Khrist...never
>>>>>> heard of such a thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't you know that a lot (not all) females suffer from a disease
>>>>> called
>>>>> "Nosenseofdirection"? And I even know some males that suffer from it
>>>>> too.
>>>>
>>>> I most soitenly do
>>>
>>> If you're only driving around your own town though...what a joke to
>>> carry a GPS. It's just another mostly worthless toy.
>>
>> I don't know. What if you are diverted to/via a place you don't know so
>> well?
>>
>> Apart from that, my sense of direction is hopeless
>
> When hubby's sister and her husband still lived in town, SIL would
> always call her hubby (BIL) at work to ask him how to get here or
> there and they were all in town destinations. She needed to write
> down everything due to one way streets etc. A GPS system would have
> worked for her except she never would have learned how to program it.
> The reason I say that is because she has had a cell phone for 10-15
> years, barely knows how to answer it and can't even check her voice
> mail without someone standing next to her, giving her step by step
> instructions.
>
>
She sounds like my DH. The man has a PhD, but can't find his voice mail
on the extremely basic cell phone I bought him.

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On 1/17/2014 3:26 PM, Gary wrote:

> If you're only driving around your own town though...what a joke to
> carry a GPS. It's just another mostly worthless toy.

I bought a hand held GPS for fun. Came in handy a few times,
more than I expected it to. Now my car has one built in.

When we were going to my brother's wedding, the GPS warned
that there was a big traffic delay the way I meant to go.
It suggested an alternate route, we went this way and that
way, down streets I've forgotten about, and got us to the
judge on time.

I still wouldn't just carry it around, though don't a lot
of people have it on their phone anyway?

nancy

On 2014-01-17 3:29 PM, Ophelia wrote:

>
> I don't know. What if you are diverted to/via a place you don't know so
> well?
>
> Apart from that, my sense of direction is hopeless
>

We live in a rural area half way between the north south streets, and
there almost a square mile of open space behind us, including about 100
acres of bush. There is a trail that we walk with the dog that is almost
two miles long, part of it through the woods. If my wife walks that
trail she has to follow it all the way through the woods and that gets
her back to the edge of the woodlot and can follow the direct line back
to our house. I can leave that trail at any point and take a short cut
in a direct line from any given point to any other given point.

I have to admit that I had trouble navigating around Paris because the
streets are laid out like a spider web and most of the major streets run
for a short distance and then change names and direction. I also had
trouble in one part of northern France, around Lille, because of that
same sort of spider on amphetamines street configuration.

My wife was impressed with my navigation through Denmark. I had been
there with my brothers two years earlier. When I went back with here I
was able to find my way to various places, to and through Copenhagen,
and without having to use a map.

After all my years working on the road around here I also learned how to
gauge my travel time. When my son started work in a nearby city I told
him he needed to figure on at least 35 minutes from our house to his
work site. I was only off by a minute.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-01-17 3:29 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't know. What if you are diverted to/via a place you don't know so
>> well?
>>
>> Apart from that, my sense of direction is hopeless
>>
>
> We live in a rural area half way between the north south streets, and
> there almost a square mile of open space behind us, including about 100
> acres of bush. There is a trail that we walk with the dog that is almost
> two miles long, part of it through the woods. If my wife walks that trail
> she has to follow it all the way through the woods and that gets her back
> to the edge of the woodlot and can follow the direct line back to our
> house. I can leave that trail at any point and take a short cut in a
> direct line from any given point to any other given point.
>
> I have to admit that I had trouble navigating around Paris because the
> streets are laid out like a spider web and most of the major streets run
> for a short distance and then change names and direction. I also had
> trouble in one part of northern France, around Lille, because of that same
> sort of spider on amphetamines street configuration.
>
> My wife was impressed with my navigation through Denmark. I had been
> there with my brothers two years earlier. When I went back with here I was
> able to find my way to various places, to and through Copenhagen, and
> without having to use a map.
>
> After all my years working on the road around here I also learned how to
> gauge my travel time. When my son started work in a nearby city I told
> him he needed to figure on at least 35 minutes from our house to his work
> site. I was only off by a minute.
>

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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-01-17 3:29 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't know. What if you are diverted to/via a place you don't know so
>> well?
>>
>> Apart from that, my sense of direction is hopeless
>>
>
> We live in a rural area half way between the north south streets, and
> there almost a square mile of open space behind us, including about 100
> acres of bush. There is a trail that we walk with the dog that is almost
> two miles long, part of it through the woods. If my wife walks that trail
> she has to follow it all the way through the woods and that gets her back
> to the edge of the woodlot and can follow the direct line back to our
> house. I can leave that trail at any point and take a short cut in a
> direct line from any given point to any other given point.
>
> I have to admit that I had trouble navigating around Paris because the
> streets are laid out like a spider web and most of the major streets run
> for a short distance and then change names and direction. I also had
> trouble in one part of northern France, around Lille, because of that same
> sort of spider on amphetamines street configuration.
>
> My wife was impressed with my navigation through Denmark. I had been
> there with my brothers two years earlier. When I went back with here I was
> able to find my way to various places, to and through Copenhagen, and
> without having to use a map.
>
> After all my years working on the road around here I also learned how to
> gauge my travel time. When my son started work in a nearby city I told
> him he needed to figure on at least 35 minutes from our house to his work
> site. I was only off by a minute.

My husband always knows the way, too, you blokes are all the same ...
except for sf's husband but he doesn't have to cos he has her Ask my
husband at any time in any place, which way is north ... he will point to
it pah!

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On Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:38:55 AM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
> On Thursday, January 16, 2014 4:10:30 AM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > > wrote in message
>
> >
>
> > ...
>
> >
>
> > On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 12:24:35 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> <A bit of snippage for brevities sake>
>
> >
>
> > And I must carry around a large purse. I assume that you're not an insulin
>
> >
>
> > using diabetic? Not only do I have to carry two kinds of insulin plus the
>
> >
>
> > needs and syringes, but my blood sugar meter, assorted pills and food at all
>
> >
>
> > times. Then there is my wallet and coupons, cell phone, GPS, coupons,
>
> >
>
> > various paperwork and HBA items. And I am not high mainetance. You'll
>
> >
>
> > never find hairspray in my purse. But you will find assorted ointments,
>
> >
>
> > creams, Bandaids, tweezers, nail clippers, etc.
>
> >
>
> > You won't find any junk in my purse. It gets cleaned out regularly. This
>
> >
>
> > after I wondered why the purse was so heavy. This dates back to the 80's.
>
> >
>
> > My mom had given me a large rock that she bought while on vacation. I had
>
> >
>
> > been carrying the rock around for months, not even remembering that I had
>
> >
>
> > it. Heh.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > This purse is a lot larger than what I need, most of the time. But it is
>
> >
>
> > handy to have. I can put a bottle of water or soda in there or even a lunch
>
> >
>
> > if I have to. Can even put a book or two.
>
>
>
> You carry a GPS with you all the time? Good Heavenly Khrist...never
>
> heard of such a thing.

"finding way .....paper bag." ?? Or do you believe everything she claims.

Jill, right after my comment addressed to Julie, about visible dirt, you complain that you never know what I
am replying to...? I always quote from my laptop, but the iPad is a real pain. I will try to be more
specific just for you.

N.

On 1/16/2014 11:36 AM, jmcquown wrote:


>> New Jerseyans don't pump gas.
>>
> True, but that's because the law doesn't allow it. I never did
> understand it.
>
> Jill

It as touted as a safety thing, but it is also a way to keep some people
working. Contrary to popular opinion, it does not save you any moey.
Self serve was not reduced, fill serve was jacked up. In MA, some towns
do not allow self serve and the prices are identical at stations across
the street from each other in different towns..

On 1/16/2014 1:05 PM, sf wrote:

..
>
> They don't, but we enjoy paying less for gas. Back in the day when
> oil companies were "shaping our behavior" so they could maximize
> profits, we got socked with significantly higher prices at the pump if
> someone pumped our gas it for us. Skinner's theory in action.
>
>

But they are truly not saving us money, just making more profit. In MA
I can get gas pumped for me at the same price. NJ has some of the
lowest prices in the country and they still pump it for you.

How much do you save when you use the self checkout at the supermarket?
Same rotten deal.

On 1/17/2014 9:34 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>
> It as touted as a safety thing, but it is also a way to keep some people
> working. Contrary to popular opinion, it does not save you any moey.
> Self serve was not reduced, fill serve was jacked up. In MA, some towns
> do not allow self serve and the prices are identical at stations across
> the street from each other in different towns..


There are no rules about gasoline prices that are written in stone. They
like to say that prices depend on supply and demand and the price of
crude, but prices vary a lot from one area to another even in the same
region.

There are very very gas stations that provide full service. Those that
do usually charge at least 2 cents per liter, about 8 cents per gallon more.

On 1/16/2014 1:09 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>
> Suppose you owned a gas station. You wouldn't be able to afford
> to pay pump jockeys unless you charged more than the self-serve
> guy across the street. If you charged more, most people would
> go to the guy across the street and pump their own. Shoot,
> people will drive across town to save a penny a gallon.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Not true from what I see ever day. See my example about the stations in
MA. The full service towns are sometimes lower than the self serve town
on the opposite side of the street. I see this in Northbridge/Uxbridge
line on rt 122 as well as a few other places. If they can do it, others
can too.

On Thursday, January 16, 2014 10:38:55 AM UTC-6, Roy wrote:
>
> You carry a GPS with you all the time? Good Heavenly Khrist...never heard of such a thing.
>
>
It's sitting in that 'tote bag' aka purse with her insulin, meters, band-aids, and anything else she can find to toss in that bag.

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:27:57 -0500, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> I still wouldn't just carry it around, though don't a lot
> of people have it on their phone anyway?

iPhone? Maybe.


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On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 21:43:34 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 1/16/2014 1:05 PM, sf wrote:
>
> .
> >
> > They don't, but we enjoy paying less for gas. Back in the day when
> > oil companies were "shaping our behavior" so they could maximize
> > profits, we got socked with significantly higher prices at the pump if
> > someone pumped our gas it for us. Skinner's theory in action.
> >
> >
>
> But they are truly not saving us money, just making more profit. In MA
> I can get gas pumped for me at the same price. NJ has some of the
> lowest prices in the country and they still pump it for you.
>
> How much do you save when you use the self checkout at the supermarket?
> Same rotten deal.

Back when they were training us to use self service - there was a
significant difference between self serve and full service. I haven't
looked at full services prices (where are those stations anyway?) that
I have no current point of reference, but I would bet money that they
charge more.


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On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 12:39:06 -0800, sf > wrote:

>When hubby's sister and her husband still lived in town, SIL would
>always call her hubby (BIL) at work to ask him how to get here or
>there and they were all in town destinations. She needed to write
>down everything due to one way streets etc. A GPS system would have
>worked for her except she never would have learned how to program it.
>The reason I say that is because she has had a cell phone for 10-15
>years, barely knows how to answer it and can't even check her voice
>mail without someone standing next to her, giving her step by step
>instructions.

Excuse me, but exactly when were you standing beside me watching me
with my phone?

Doris