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i just downloaded a book called:

The Cornbread Bible
A recipe Storybook

by Jennifer Shambrook PhD

When I get my corn meal next week I will be well set

A question if I may to all the cornmeal aficionados?

She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to use?


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On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:00:23 -0000, "Ophelia"
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>i just downloaded a book called:
>
>The Cornbread Bible
>A recipe Storybook
>
>by Jennifer Shambrook PhD
>
>When I get my corn meal next week I will be well set
>
>A question if I may to all the cornmeal aficionados?
>
>She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
>raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to use?


Use baking powder, use the proportions from any cornbread recipe.
I prefer using medium grind corn meal, I like gritty.
http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/2...let-cornbread/
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> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:00:23 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>i just downloaded a book called:
>>
>>The Cornbread Bible
>>A recipe Storybook
>>
>>by Jennifer Shambrook PhD
>>
>>When I get my corn meal next week I will be well set
>>
>>A question if I may to all the cornmeal aficionados?
>>
>>She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
>>raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to use?

>
> Use baking powder, use the proportions from any cornbread recipe.
> I prefer using medium grind corn meal, I like gritty.
> http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/2...let-cornbread/


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IF you want to be baking the best cornbread, you will want to get your
cornmeal from a place that ground it recently and stored it gently and
briefly. Cornmeal that's been sitting in a warehouse in formidable temps for
years is not going to serve you well. Polly


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> IF you want to be baking the best cornbread, you will want to get your
> cornmeal from a place that ground it recently and stored it gently and
> briefly. Cornmeal that's been sitting in a warehouse in formidable temps
> for years is not going to serve you well. Polly


LOL I should be so lucky!!! I live in UK. A local supermarket had a US
section for the first time last week. Quaker Cornmeal was on those shelves
and is the first I had ever seen.

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On Sunday, January 19, 2014 2:00:23 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> i just downloaded a book called:
>
>
>
> The Cornbread Bible
>
> A recipe Storybook
>
>
>
> by Jennifer Shambrook PhD
>
>
>
> When I get my corn meal next week I will be well set
>
>
>
> A question if I may to all the cornmeal aficionados?
>
>
>
> She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
>
> raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to use?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
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God, why don't you shut the **** up?
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On 19-Jan-2014, "Ophelia" > wrote:

> i just downloaded a book called:
>
> The Cornbread Bible
> A recipe Storybook
>
> by Jennifer Shambrook PhD
>
> When I get my corn meal next week I will be well set
>
> A question if I may to all the cornmeal aficionados?
>
> She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
> raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to use?

I've read, and tucked away for future use, that the substitution is 1 cup
plain cornmeal + 1 1/2 tsp baking powder + 1/2 tsp salt = 1 cup self-rising
cornmeal. I admit that, to date, I have not had the need for self-rising
cornmeal.

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> On 19-Jan-2014, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>> i just downloaded a book called:
>>
>> The Cornbread Bible
>> A recipe Storybook
>>
>> by Jennifer Shambrook PhD
>>
>> When I get my corn meal next week I will be well set
>>
>> A question if I may to all the cornmeal aficionados?
>>
>> She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
>> raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to use?

> I've read, and tucked away for future use, that the substitution is 1 cup
> plain cornmeal + 1 1/2 tsp baking powder + 1/2 tsp salt = 1 cup
> self-rising
> cornmeal. I admit that, to date, I have not had the need for
> self-rising
> cornmeal.


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On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:15:19 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:

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> On 19-Jan-2014, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
> > i just downloaded a book called:
> >
> > The Cornbread Bible
> > A recipe Storybook
> >
> > by Jennifer Shambrook PhD
> >
> > When I get my corn meal next week I will be well set
> >
> > A question if I may to all the cornmeal aficionados?
> >
> > She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
> > raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to use?

> I've read, and tucked away for future use, that the substitution is 1 cup
> plain cornmeal + 1 1/2 tsp baking powder + 1/2 tsp salt = 1 cup self-rising
> cornmeal. I admit that, to date, I have not had the need for self-rising
> cornmeal.
>

Me either, but I can't say I've ever seen self-rising cornmeal in the
grocery store either. I downloaded the kindle version to my cloud
reader and see that it must be another typically Southern ingredient
that we don't find elsewhere very often, because she talks about
"smuggling" it into Pennsylvania when she "lived up North".


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> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:15:19 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>
>>
>> On 19-Jan-2014, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>
>> > i just downloaded a book called:
>> >
>> > The Cornbread Bible
>> > A recipe Storybook
>> >
>> > by Jennifer Shambrook PhD
>> >
>> > When I get my corn meal next week I will be well set
>> >
>> > A question if I may to all the cornmeal aficionados?
>> >
>> > She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
>> > raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to
>> > use?

>> I've read, and tucked away for future use, that the substitution is 1 cup
>> plain cornmeal + 1 1/2 tsp baking powder + 1/2 tsp salt = 1 cup
>> self-rising
>> cornmeal. I admit that, to date, I have not had the need for
>> self-rising
>> cornmeal.
>>

> Me either, but I can't say I've ever seen self-rising cornmeal in the
> grocery store either. I downloaded the kindle version to my cloud
> reader and see that it must be another typically Southern ingredient
> that we don't find elsewhere very often, because she talks about
> "smuggling" it into Pennsylvania when she "lived up North".


I haven't read much of it yet. I only got it a few hours ago and have only
looked through the recipes. What do you think of it in general?


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On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:33:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
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>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:15:19 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
> >
> >> I admit that, to date, I have not had the need for self-rising
> >> cornmeal.
> >>

> > Me either, but I can't say I've ever seen self-rising cornmeal in the
> > grocery store either. I downloaded the kindle version to my cloud
> > reader and see that it must be another typically Southern ingredient
> > that we don't find elsewhere very often, because she talks about
> > "smuggling" it into Pennsylvania when she "lived up North".

>
> I haven't read much of it yet. I only got it a few hours ago and have only
> looked through the recipes. What do you think of it in general?


I downloaded it because you mentioned it, but I've been "otherwise
occupied" today to now and haven't gotten any further.

BTW: The price for that Kindle book was " right", so I put it on my
cloud version of Kindle! Thank you for mentioning it. I am not good
about perusing the Kindle "deals" that come in daily.

Hope you still have that cornbread recipe I gave you, because it's
really delicious. I also have a cake recipe that calls for a
combination of cornmeal and flour, but I've ended up making something
else the last two times I thought I'd make it - so I can't vouch for
it yet.


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> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:33:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
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>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:15:19 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I admit that, to date, I have not had the need for self-rising
>> >> cornmeal.
>> >>
>> > Me either, but I can't say I've ever seen self-rising cornmeal in the
>> > grocery store either. I downloaded the kindle version to my cloud
>> > reader and see that it must be another typically Southern ingredient
>> > that we don't find elsewhere very often, because she talks about
>> > "smuggling" it into Pennsylvania when she "lived up North".

>>
>> I haven't read much of it yet. I only got it a few hours ago and have
>> only
>> looked through the recipes. What do you think of it in general?

>
> I downloaded it because you mentioned it, but I've been "otherwise
> occupied" today to now and haven't gotten any further.
>
> BTW: The price for that Kindle book was " right", so I put it on my
> cloud version of Kindle! Thank you for mentioning it. I am not good
> about perusing the Kindle "deals" that come in daily.
>
> Hope you still have that cornbread recipe I gave you, because it's
> really delicious. I also have a cake recipe that calls for a
> combination of cornmeal and flour, but I've ended up making something
> else the last two times I thought I'd make it - so I can't vouch for
> it yet.


I have all the recipes I was given. Ahh I just realise I saved them without
names If you have yours handy again please be so kind as to post it again
because I am not sure which one was yours

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On 19-Jan-2014, sf > wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:15:19 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>
> >
> > On 19-Jan-2014, "Ophelia" > wrote:
> >
> > > i just downloaded a book called:
> > >
> > > The Cornbread Bible
> > > A recipe Storybook
> > >
> > > by Jennifer Shambrook PhD
> > >
> > > When I get my corn meal next week I will be well set
> > >
> > > A question if I may to all the cornmeal aficionados?
> > >
> > > She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
> > > raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to
> > > use?

> > I've read, and tucked away for future use, that the substitution is 1
> > cup
> > plain cornmeal + 1 1/2 tsp baking powder + 1/2 tsp salt = 1 cup
> > self-rising
> > cornmeal. I admit that, to date, I have not had the need for
> > self-rising
> > cornmeal.
> >

> Me either, but I can't say I've ever seen self-rising cornmeal in the
> grocery store either. I downloaded the kindle version to my cloud
> reader and see that it must be another typically Southern ingredient
> that we don't find elsewhere very often, because she talks about
> "smuggling" it into Pennsylvania when she "lived up North".


I believe it is a "southern" thing, or at least regional. We have it here
in STL in some supermarkets, pretty much the same ones that have hock and
shanks and similar items. Though my grandmother never used it, preferring
coarse ground from the feed mill, self-rising cornmeal is what was sold in
my grandparents general store in 1950s Kentucky.
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On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 22:03:52 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:

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> On 19-Jan-2014, sf > wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:15:19 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
> >
> > > I admit that, to date, I have not had the need for self-rising
> > > cornmeal.
> > >

> > Me either, but I can't say I've ever seen self-rising cornmeal in the
> > grocery store either. I downloaded the kindle version to my cloud
> > reader and see that it must be another typically Southern ingredient
> > that we don't find elsewhere very often, because she talks about
> > "smuggling" it into Pennsylvania when she "lived up North".

>
> I believe it is a "southern" thing, or at least regional. We have it here
> in STL in some supermarkets, pretty much the same ones that have hock and
> shanks and similar items. Though my grandmother never used it, preferring
> coarse ground from the feed mill, self-rising cornmeal is what was sold in
> my grandparents general store in 1950s Kentucky.


Thanks for the confirmation, much appreciated! STL (St. Louis) is
centrally located and seems to reflect a little bit of everywhere.


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On Sunday, January 19, 2014 3:20:08 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
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> > On 19-Jan-2014, "Ophelia" > wrote:

>
>
> > > She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
> > > raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to use?

> >

>
> I can't say I've ever seen self-rising cornmeal in the
>
>

Here plain and self-rising as well as white or yellow cornmeal is available. I use the yellow variety because it's personal preference and _always_ self-rising.


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> Here plain and self-rising as well as white or yellow cornmeal is
> available. I use the yellow variety because it's personal preference and
> _always_ self-rising.


I only know about the self raising stuff because of that book I mentioned.
I don't know what kind is in the supermarket so I will need to wait and see.

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On 1/20/2014 5:53 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Here plain and self-rising as well as white or yellow cornmeal is
>> available. I use the yellow variety because it's personal preference
>> and _always_ self-rising.

>
> I only know about the self raising stuff because of that book I
> mentioned. I don't know what kind is in the supermarket so I will need
> to wait and see.
>

That Quaker brand most likely won't be self-rising. I never use
self-rising cornmeal (or self-rising flour). There may be a recipe for
cornbread on the cannister of the Quaker brand, just another referance
for you.

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Ophelia wrote:
> i just downloaded a book called:
>
> The Cornbread Bible
> A recipe Storybook
>
> by Jennifer Shambrook PhD
>
> When I get my corn meal next week I will be well set
>
> A question if I may to all the cornmeal aficionados?
>
> She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
> raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to use?
>


Look carefully at the label, there are several variations of cornmeal.
I'm not sure if self-rising cornmeal has flour added or not; I think it
does.

I use plain yellow cornmeal and add my own flour. [recipe below] My
wife uses the white cornmeal mix that has flour in it already -- she
doesn't know it has any flour -- and makes it with buttermilk. I'm not
sure what recipe she uses. Hers is quite different but good too, except
when she buys white cornmeal by mistake instead of the mix and doesnt
adjust the recipe.

HTH, Bob


*Corn Bread*

1 cup yellow cornmeal (not “cornmeal mix”)
1 cup all-purpose flour
4 tsp baking powder
1/2 tsp salt
2 eggs
1 cup milk
1/4 cup cooking oil or melted shortening
1/4 cup sugar (if you’re a Yankee)

Preheat oven to 425°F. Grease the bottom and sides of a 10” iron skillet
and put it in the oven while you quickly mix the batter...

In a medium mixing bowl stir together the dry ingredients. Make a well
in the center. Add the eggs, milk, and oil. Whisk the wet ingredients
with a fork, trying not to pull in much of the dry ingredients at first,
then stir it all together until moistened.

Pour the batter into the hot skillet, then bake for 20 to 25 minutes or
until a toothpick inserted near the center comes out clean. Makes about
8 servings.


Notes:
To make buttermilk cornbread: substitute 1 C buttermilk, add 1/2 tsp
baking soda, and reduce the baking powder to 2 tsp.

I added a 15 oz can of creamed corn, and it tasted good but was way too
moist; I should have reduced the milk.
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> Ophelia wrote:
>> i just downloaded a book called:
>>
>> The Cornbread Bible
>> A recipe Storybook
>>
>> by Jennifer Shambrook PhD
>>
>> When I get my corn meal next week I will be well set
>>
>> A question if I may to all the cornmeal aficionados?
>>
>> She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
>> raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to use?
>>

>
> Look carefully at the label, there are several variations of cornmeal.
> I'm not sure if self-rising cornmeal has flour added or not; I think it
> does.
>
> I use plain yellow cornmeal and add my own flour. [recipe below] My wife
> uses the white cornmeal mix that has flour in it already -- she doesn't
> know it has any flour -- and makes it with buttermilk. I'm not sure what
> recipe she uses. Hers is quite different but good too, except when she
> buys white cornmeal by mistake instead of the mix and doesnt adjust the
> recipe.
>
> HTH, Bob


Thank you very much, Bob! I am not sure what I will be getting. Did you
see the pics I posted about US foods? Well it will be the Quaker brand
shown. I will have to look and see if there is a recipe on the box/can. I
am hoping to get over there on Wednesday so if I do, I will report back)

*Corn Bread*

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> Look carefully at the label, there are several variations of cornmeal.
> I'm not sure if self-rising cornmeal has flour added or not; I think it
> does.


I googled.

Q: What is Self-Rising Corn Meal?
A: Self-rising Corn meal has leavening and salt, and is enriched with
B vitamins. It does not contain flour.


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On Monday, January 20, 2014 1:41:24 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
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>
> I googled.
>
>
>
> Q: What is Self-Rising Corn Meal?
>
> A: Self-rising Corn meal has leavening and salt, and is enriched with
> B vitamins. It does not contain flour.
>
>

Why would you think self-rising cornmeal would contain flour?? It contains leavener(s) as does self-rising flour. Self-rising flour doesn't contain cornmeal and self-rising cornmeal doesn't contain flour.
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On 20-Jan-2014, zxcvbob > wrote:

> Ophelia wrote:
> > i just downloaded a book called:
> >
> > The Cornbread Bible
> > A recipe Storybook
> >
> > by Jennifer Shambrook PhD
> >
> > When I get my corn meal next week I will be well set
> >
> > A question if I may to all the cornmeal aficionados?
> >
> > She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
> > raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to use?
> >

>
> Look carefully at the label, there are several variations of cornmeal.
> I'm not sure if self-rising cornmeal has flour added or not; I think it
> does.


Good suggestion; some do have flour, others don't. Aunt Jemima brand does
not, Martha White does. Some are called self-rising cornmeal, other
self-rising cornmeal mix - best to read the ingredients panel to know what
any given product has in it.


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> On 20-Jan-2014, zxcvbob > wrote:
>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>> > i just downloaded a book called:
>> >
>> > The Cornbread Bible
>> > A recipe Storybook
>> >
>> > by Jennifer Shambrook PhD
>> >
>> > When I get my corn meal next week I will be well set
>> >
>> > A question if I may to all the cornmeal aficionados?
>> >
>> > She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
>> > raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to
>> > use?
>> >

>>
>> Look carefully at the label, there are several variations of cornmeal.
>> I'm not sure if self-rising cornmeal has flour added or not; I think it
>> does.

>
> Good suggestion; some do have flour, others don't. Aunt Jemima brand
> does
> not, Martha White does. Some are called self-rising cornmeal, other
> self-rising cornmeal mix - best to read the ingredients panel to know what
> any given product has in it.


I will be buying the stuff on Wednesday and will report back any
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On 1/19/2014 9:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> i just downloaded a book called:
>
> The Cornbread Bible
> A recipe Storybook
>
> by Jennifer Shambrook PhD
>
> When I get my corn meal next week I will be well set
>
> A question if I may to all the cornmeal aficionados?
>
> She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
> raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to use?
>
>


Back in the early 70's, I went to a Mormon study center at the
University of Hawaii to get a recipe for a unique cornbread. My wife got
the recipe from her high school friend who must have been an LDS member
and she passed the recipe typed on paper torn out of a notebook to me on
the spot. The way I recall it, it was like she was giving me a secret
church recipe.

What was unique about it was that it used Bisquick mix, one cup of
butter, one cup of sugar, and a small amount of cornmeal. It think it
was around half a cup. It made a killer light and sweet cornmeal cake
that was nothing like a traditional cornbread. Traditionalists would
shit in their pants at it being called "cornbread" but these days it's
called "Hawaiian cornbread" which seems appropriate. The strange thing
is that it may have it's origins in the Mormon church. Well hell, my
recipe certainly did. :-)
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>> i just downloaded a book called:
>>
>> The Cornbread Bible
>> A recipe Storybook
>>
>> by Jennifer Shambrook PhD
>>
>> When I get my corn meal next week I will be well set
>>
>> A question if I may to all the cornmeal aficionados?
>>
>> She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
>> raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to use?
>>
>>

>
> Back in the early 70's, I went to a Mormon study center at the University
> of Hawaii to get a recipe for a unique cornbread. My wife got the recipe
> from her high school friend who must have been an LDS member and she
> passed the recipe typed on paper torn out of a notebook to me on the spot.
> The way I recall it, it was like she was giving me a secret church recipe.
>
> What was unique about it was that it used Bisquick mix, one cup of butter,
> one cup of sugar, and a small amount of cornmeal. It think it was around
> half a cup. It made a killer light and sweet cornmeal cake that was
> nothing like a traditional cornbread. Traditionalists would shit in their
> pants at it being called "cornbread" but these days it's called "Hawaiian
> cornbread" which seems appropriate. The strange thing is that it may have
> it's origins in the Mormon church. Well hell, my recipe certainly did. :-)


<g> Our eldest grand daughter is LDS and she is a good cook. I must ask her
if she knows anything about corn meal. Did anyone spot Bisquick on the
shelves in Tesco I posted?

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> <g> Our eldest grand daughter is LDS and she is a good cook. I must ask
> her if she knows anything about corn meal. Did anyone spot Bisquick on
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If there ain't, there oughta be. There ain't nothing more American than
Bisquick 'cept maybe a 5 lb box of surplus cheese from the back of an
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>> <g> Our eldest grand daughter is LDS and she is a good cook. I must ask
>> her if she knows anything about corn meal. Did anyone spot Bisquick on
>> the shelves in Tesco I posted?
>>

> If there ain't, there oughta be. There ain't nothing more American than
> Bisquick 'cept maybe a 5 lb box of surplus cheese from the back of an army
> truck.


I shall have a look I am hoping to go tomorrow, but there is something
that might crop up in which case it will be Saturday.

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i just downloaded a book called:

The Cornbread Bible
A recipe Storybook

by Jennifer Shambrook PhD

When I get my corn meal next week I will be well set

A question if I may to all the cornmeal aficionados?

She talks about self raising cornmeal. If the stuff I get isn't self
raising, what proportion of raising agent (and what) will I need to use?


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