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> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:44:01 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> >
>>
>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>
>> > ...
>>
>> >
>>
>> >> Of course I do! I prefer the Watkins Grapefruit soap. Can't find it
>> >> for
>>
>> >> a good price and don't want to get it shipped any more so am looking
>> >> for
>>
>> >> an alternative. found some sort of green brand at Central Market but
>>
>> >> haven't tried it yet. Do have a dishwasher but just prefer to wash by
>>
>> >> hand as I go. Now if I were ever to prepare some sort of huge meal and
>>
>> >> dirty a lot of dishes at once, I would likely use it. Seems I do use
>> >> it
>>
>> >> perhaps 2-3 times a year.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Really? With the dishwasher? How do you keep it from smelling bad in
>>
>> > between times? I'm curious.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why would the dishwasher smell bad between uses? I've never had a
>>
>> dishwasher smell bad. This one is fairly new. Can't remember exactly
>> when
>>
>> I got it. Perhaps 4-6 years ago? It's not like anything is getting in
>>
>> there between uses and it's all clean in there. So... ?
>
> Why did you spend hundreds of dollars for an appliance that only gets used
> 2-3 times a year? You sure are a wasteful person.

Would you rather there be a hole there? And it was a gift! I used to use
it all the time but I freaking hate all the bending over to load and unload
it. It's just easier for me to wash by hand. YMMV.

"Cheri" > wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message ...
>
>> Of course I do! I prefer the Watkins Grapefruit soap. Can't find it
>> for > a good price and don't want to get it shipped any more so am
>> looking for > an alternative. found some sort of green brand at Central
>> Market but > haven't tried it yet. Do have a dishwasher but just prefer
>> to wash by > hand as I go. Now if I were ever to prepare some sort of
>> huge meal and > dirty a lot of dishes at once, I would likely use it.
>> Seems I do use it > perhaps 2-3 times a year.
>
> Really? With the dishwasher? How do you keep it from smelling bad in
> between times? I'm curious.
>
> Cheri

My exit drain hose was too low, and the garbage disposal was feeding back
into dishwasher, collection bad water. I should run the dishwasher to see
if it still works.

Greg

"gregz" > wrote in message
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> "Cheri" > wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Of course I do! I prefer the Watkins Grapefruit soap. Can't find it
>>> for > a good price and don't want to get it shipped any more so am
>>> looking for > an alternative. found some sort of green brand at Central
>>> Market but > haven't tried it yet. Do have a dishwasher but just prefer
>>> to wash by > hand as I go. Now if I were ever to prepare some sort of
>>> huge meal and > dirty a lot of dishes at once, I would likely use it.
>>> Seems I do use it > perhaps 2-3 times a year.
>>
>> Really? With the dishwasher? How do you keep it from smelling bad in
>> between times? I'm curious.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> My exit drain hose was too low, and the garbage disposal was feeding back
> into dishwasher, collection bad water. I should run the dishwasher to see
> if it still works.
>
> Greg

That would make a difference. I had my disposal removed and the plumber did
raise the hose to the dishwasher when doing that, but my dishwasher still
has a small amount of water in the bottom when finishing. The manual says a
small amount of clean water around the outlet on the tub bottom at the back
of the tub is normal and keeps the water seal lubricated.

Cheri

On Monday, January 27, 2014 1:26:37 PM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > Damn. With all this talk about Super Bowl parties - I thought it was
>
> > yesterday. You can only imagine how disappointed I was when hubby
>
> > told me it's not for another two weeks. How much planning does
>
> > someone have to do for these things??? It sounds like people never
>
> > entertain unless it's a stupid bowl.
>
>
>
> Actually, it's this coming Sunday, Feb. 2. Apparently it's only second to
>
> Thanksgiving in food prepared and eaten so it takes planning if you're
>
> having a crowd. I love Super Bowl, but we watch by ourselves now so we can
>
> actually follow the game and we just have finger foods.
>
Lots of chicken wings consumed.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/01/28...-bowl-numbers/

They are selling for $3.79/# retail, and I typically pay $1.89 because I
buy strategically. First thing in the morning, like a half hour or so
after the store opens, they mark down the meat. If a product had a
Jan. 31 sell by date, they will have marked it down today, which is Jan. 30.
I keep an eye on the dates, and know when to be there to snatch the discount.

Instead of early morning, they do the ground beef at noon. Sometimes there
is serious competition for that.

This will be the only NFL game I've seen all the way through all year.
My son will probably watch at least some of the game with me, but I
think he likes the idea of liking football more than he actually
likes football.
>
> Cheri

--B

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 23:07:23 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> wrote in message
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>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:44:01 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> > ...
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >> Of course I do! I prefer the Watkins Grapefruit soap. Can't find it
>>> >> for
>>>
>>> >> a good price and don't want to get it shipped any more so am looking
>>> >> for
>>>
>>> >> an alternative. found some sort of green brand at Central Market but
>>>
>>> >> haven't tried it yet. Do have a dishwasher but just prefer to wash by
>>>
>>> >> hand as I go. Now if I were ever to prepare some sort of huge meal and
>>>
>>> >> dirty a lot of dishes at once, I would likely use it. Seems I do use
>>> >> it
>>>
>>> >> perhaps 2-3 times a year.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > Really? With the dishwasher? How do you keep it from smelling bad in
>>>
>>> > between times? I'm curious.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why would the dishwasher smell bad between uses? I've never had a
>>>
>>> dishwasher smell bad. This one is fairly new. Can't remember exactly
>>> when
>>>
>>> I got it. Perhaps 4-6 years ago? It's not like anything is getting in
>>>
>>> there between uses and it's all clean in there. So... ?
>>
>> Why did you spend hundreds of dollars for an appliance that only gets used
>> 2-3 times a year? You sure are a wasteful person.
>
>Would you rather there be a hole there? And it was a gift! I used to use
>it all the time but I freaking hate all the bending over to load and unload
>it. It's just easier for me to wash by hand. YMMV.

Loading and unloading the dishwasher was a chore we used to assign to
the kids. That and changing the cat litter.

Doris

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 23:07:23 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
> wrote in message
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>>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:44:01 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> > ...
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >> Of course I do! I prefer the Watkins Grapefruit soap. Can't find
>>>> >> it
>>>> >> for
>>>>
>>>> >> a good price and don't want to get it shipped any more so am looking
>>>> >> for
>>>>
>>>> >> an alternative. found some sort of green brand at Central Market
>>>> >> but
>>>>
>>>> >> haven't tried it yet. Do have a dishwasher but just prefer to wash
>>>> >> by
>>>>
>>>> >> hand as I go. Now if I were ever to prepare some sort of huge meal
>>>> >> and
>>>>
>>>> >> dirty a lot of dishes at once, I would likely use it. Seems I do
>>>> >> use
>>>> >> it
>>>>
>>>> >> perhaps 2-3 times a year.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > Really? With the dishwasher? How do you keep it from smelling bad in
>>>>
>>>> > between times? I'm curious.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why would the dishwasher smell bad between uses? I've never had a
>>>>
>>>> dishwasher smell bad. This one is fairly new. Can't remember exactly
>>>> when
>>>>
>>>> I got it. Perhaps 4-6 years ago? It's not like anything is getting in
>>>>
>>>> there between uses and it's all clean in there. So... ?
>>>
>>> Why did you spend hundreds of dollars for an appliance that only gets
>>> used
>>> 2-3 times a year? You sure are a wasteful person.
>>
>>Would you rather there be a hole there? And it was a gift! I used to use
>>it all the time but I freaking hate all the bending over to load and
>>unload
>>it. It's just easier for me to wash by hand. YMMV.
>
> Loading and unloading the dishwasher was a chore we used to assign to
> the kids. That and changing the cat litter.

lol such cruelty <g>



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"Doris Night" > wrote in message
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> Loading and unloading the dishwasher was a chore we used to assign to
> the kids. That and changing the cat litter.

We had no dishwasher when I was a kid but I had to wash dishes and do the
cat box. I don't assign too much to Angela these days though because she is
so busy with school stuff. They really pile the homework on to the point
where some nights she has no spare time at all. She has cut back on dance
the way it is and even at that she has had to miss it because she had too
much homework.

In past years, she was taking 12+ hours of dance per week so between that
and the homework, she still didn't have a lot of time left. I do assign her
some tasks but those things aren't in there.

She did once ask if she could empty the cat box. She was much younger then.

All of a sudden she hollered out, "Uh mom? Come here!", with a panicky
sound to her voice. I went into the bathroom to see a mountain of clumping
cat litter sticking up out of the toilet. I freaked!

At some point, we had switched to some other kind of litter. Can't remember
what it was. Some kind of natural material. It didn't work and smelled bad
so we didn't use it for long. But unlike the clumping or even the regular
stuff, it didn't stick to the poops. So I would put the poop in the toilet
and flush it. She must have seen me do that. But what made her think she
could dump the clumping litter down there is beyond me.

I know when clumping litter first came out, they said it was flushable. Not
sure they make that claim now but with our easily clogged toilet, I wouldn't
attempt it.

I can't remember exactly what we did but I had her bail all of the litter
out of there as quickly as possible. I think maybe I gave her a large
plastic cup or something. She did manage to get almost all of it out and
what little remained did flush down with no problem.

I just got a litter Genie when Target had them half off either through the
Cartwheel or a coupon. Can't remember which. She doesn't know how to use
it yet. It's actually easy to use but it took me a little while to figure
it out. I rather screwed it up pretty good the first week that I used it and
overfilled it. They make the claim that you only need to empty it every two
weeks with one cat. We have two cats and that first week, it didn't even
make it one week before it was overflowing. I have since learned that I
have to use the little scoop that comes with it and really pack the stuff
down in it. It did make it a week this time but just barely so.

No odor whatever though. Love the thing! Much better than my using the
cheap plastic garbage bags. If it was raining, I didn't want to run them
outside so I'd leave them in the bathroom trash where they'd stink. Then
when I put them in the outside trash, it would stink. No stink at all now
because the bagging plastic is so very thick.

On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 07:59:02 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> wrote:

snip
>>
>Lots of chicken wings consumed.
>http://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/01/28...-bowl-numbers/
>
>They are selling for $3.79/# retail, and I typically pay $1.89 because I
>buy strategically. First thing in the morning, like a half hour or so
>after the store opens, they mark down the meat. If a product had a
>Jan. 31 sell by date, they will have marked it down today, which is Jan. 30.
>I keep an eye on the dates, and know when to be there to snatch the discount.
snip
>--B

I get great meat buys that way. My store gives 2 days on the sell-by
date when they yellow sticker the package.
Janet US

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 23:07:23 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
> wrote in message
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>>>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:44:01 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>> > ...
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> >> Of course I do! I prefer the Watkins Grapefruit soap. Can't find
>>>>> >> it
>>>>> >> for
>>>>>
>>>>> >> a good price and don't want to get it shipped any more so am
>>>>> >> looking
>>>>> >> for
>>>>>
>>>>> >> an alternative. found some sort of green brand at Central Market
>>>>> >> but
>>>>>
>>>>> >> haven't tried it yet. Do have a dishwasher but just prefer to wash
>>>>> >> by
>>>>>
>>>>> >> hand as I go. Now if I were ever to prepare some sort of huge meal
>>>>> >> and
>>>>>
>>>>> >> dirty a lot of dishes at once, I would likely use it. Seems I do
>>>>> >> use
>>>>> >> it
>>>>>
>>>>> >> perhaps 2-3 times a year.
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> > Really? With the dishwasher? How do you keep it from smelling bad in
>>>>>
>>>>> > between times? I'm curious.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would the dishwasher smell bad between uses? I've never had a
>>>>>
>>>>> dishwasher smell bad. This one is fairly new. Can't remember exactly
>>>>> when
>>>>>
>>>>> I got it. Perhaps 4-6 years ago? It's not like anything is getting
>>>>> in
>>>>>
>>>>> there between uses and it's all clean in there. So... ?
>>>>
>>>> Why did you spend hundreds of dollars for an appliance that only gets
>>>> used
>>>> 2-3 times a year? You sure are a wasteful person.
>>>
>>>Would you rather there be a hole there? And it was a gift! I used to
>>>use
>>>it all the time but I freaking hate all the bending over to load and
>>>unload
>>>it. It's just easier for me to wash by hand. YMMV.
>>
>> Loading and unloading the dishwasher was a chore we used to assign to
>> the kids. That and changing the cat litter.
>
> lol such cruelty <g>

Yeah. I had one boss who said, "Never make someone else do what which you
won't do yourself!"

I have trouble running the vac, sweeping the floor (if a large area needs
swept) or mopping due to my disability. So it's pretty much a given that
Angela has to do these things as they need done. I also have trouble
getting the green yard waste can to the street but it's much better now that
they put a new wheel on it. But for some reason she has no trouble at all
with it or the recycle bin where as I struggle with them. So she usually
does those things as well. And other things as needed.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 23:07:23 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
> wrote in message
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>>>>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:44:01 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> Of course I do! I prefer the Watkins Grapefruit soap. Can't find
>>>>>> >> it
>>>>>> >> for
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> a good price and don't want to get it shipped any more so am
>>>>>> >> looking
>>>>>> >> for
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> an alternative. found some sort of green brand at Central Market
>>>>>> >> but
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> haven't tried it yet. Do have a dishwasher but just prefer to
>>>>>> >> wash by
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> hand as I go. Now if I were ever to prepare some sort of huge meal
>>>>>> >> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> dirty a lot of dishes at once, I would likely use it. Seems I do
>>>>>> >> use
>>>>>> >> it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> perhaps 2-3 times a year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Really? With the dishwasher? How do you keep it from smelling bad
>>>>>> > in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > between times? I'm curious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would the dishwasher smell bad between uses? I've never had a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dishwasher smell bad. This one is fairly new. Can't remember
>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>> when
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got it. Perhaps 4-6 years ago? It's not like anything is getting
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> there between uses and it's all clean in there. So... ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why did you spend hundreds of dollars for an appliance that only gets
>>>>> used
>>>>> 2-3 times a year? You sure are a wasteful person.
>>>>
>>>>Would you rather there be a hole there? And it was a gift! I used to
>>>>use
>>>>it all the time but I freaking hate all the bending over to load and
>>>>unload
>>>>it. It's just easier for me to wash by hand. YMMV.
>>>
>>> Loading and unloading the dishwasher was a chore we used to assign to
>>> the kids. That and changing the cat litter.
>>
>> lol such cruelty <g>
>
> Yeah. I had one boss who said, "Never make someone else do what which you
> won't do yourself!"
>
> I have trouble running the vac, sweeping the floor (if a large area needs
> swept) or mopping due to my disability. So it's pretty much a given that
> Angela has to do these things as they need done. I also have trouble
> getting the green yard waste can to the street but it's much better now
> that they put a new wheel on it. But for some reason she has no trouble
> at all with it or the recycle bin where as I struggle with them. So she
> usually does those things as well. And other things as needed.

Good for her

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On Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:07:23 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:44:01 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>
> >>
>
> >> ...
>
> >>
>
> >> >
>
> >>
>
> >> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>
> >>
>
> >> > ...
>
> >>
>
> >> >
>
> >>
>
> >> >> Of course I do! I prefer the Watkins Grapefruit soap. Can't find it
>
> >> >> for
>
> >>
>
> >> >> a good price and don't want to get it shipped any more so am looking
>
> >> >> for
>
> >>
>
> >> >> an alternative. found some sort of green brand at Central Market but
>
> >>
>
> >> >> haven't tried it yet. Do have a dishwasher but just prefer to wash by
>
> >>
>
> >> >> hand as I go. Now if I were ever to prepare some sort of huge meal and
>
> >>
>
> >> >> dirty a lot of dishes at once, I would likely use it. Seems I do use
>
> >> >> it
>
> >>
>
> >> >> perhaps 2-3 times a year.
>
> >>
>
> >> >
>
> >>
>
> >> > Really? With the dishwasher? How do you keep it from smelling bad in
>
> >>
>
> >> > between times? I'm curious.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Why would the dishwasher smell bad between uses? I've never had a
>
> >>
>
> >> dishwasher smell bad. This one is fairly new. Can't remember exactly
>
> >> when
>
> >>
>
> >> I got it. Perhaps 4-6 years ago? It's not like anything is getting in
>
> >>
>
> >> there between uses and it's all clean in there. So... ?
>
> >
>
> > Why did you spend hundreds of dollars for an appliance that only gets used
>
> > 2-3 times a year? You sure are a wasteful person.
>
>
>
> Would you rather there be a hole there? And it was a gift! I used to use
>
> it all the time but I freaking hate all the bending over to load and unload
>
> it. It's just easier for me to wash by hand. YMMV.

So, you spent hundreds of dollars for an appliance that you don't want or need or use. Makes sense to me! Not.

Why didn't you just have the husband build a cabinet to fill up the space? Oh wait, that's right, he can't even figure out how to make a can of soup for himself.

You know what, you're full of SHIT.

> wrote in message
...

> So, you spent hundreds of dollars for an appliance that you don't want or
> need or use. Makes sense to me! Not.

Nope. As I said, it was a gift.
>
> Why didn't you just have the husband build a cabinet to fill up the space?
> Oh wait, that's right, he can't even figure out how to make a can of soup
> for himself.

Oh bwahahaha! Nobody could build a cabinet that would go with the other
ones that I have now. And if you didn't get the hint that it is difficult
for me to bend over and reach down like that, you should have. A cabinet on
that level wouldn't do me much good at all.

> You know what, you're full of SHIT.

Uh, no. I don't use my iron or ironing board much either. Or my hair
dryer. But does that mean I shouldn't own them? At the time that I got the
dishwasher, I did think I would use it all the time. I had in the past.
But then I became a bit frightened to use it after it leaked water all over.
Wasn't the dishwasher at all but the clamp on the hose had come off. I had
been using it probably every other day up until then for about three months.
Was kind of afraid that it might happen again. It hasn't.

I just discovered that it works better for me to wash things as I go rather
than filling the dishwasher up with a ton of stuff. Used to be when I made
dinner, I might dirty up 3 or 4 bowls. Now? I usually just use the same
bowl, washing or rinsing (depending on what I put in it) and then eventually
putting it away after the last washing. This method works for me. Might
not work for you.

I know others who don't use their dishwashers. In some cases they don't
work, in some cases they do. They use them for storage. I wouldn't want to
do that but some people do.

On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:33:21 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

>On Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:07:23 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:44:01 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> ...
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > ...
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> Of course I do! I prefer the Watkins Grapefruit soap. Can't find it
>>
>> >> >> for
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> a good price and don't want to get it shipped any more so am looking
>>
>> >> >> for
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> an alternative. found some sort of green brand at Central Market but
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> haven't tried it yet. Do have a dishwasher but just prefer to wash by
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> hand as I go. Now if I were ever to prepare some sort of huge meal and
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> dirty a lot of dishes at once, I would likely use it. Seems I do use
>>
>> >> >> it
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> perhaps 2-3 times a year.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > Really? With the dishwasher? How do you keep it from smelling bad in
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > between times? I'm curious.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Why would the dishwasher smell bad between uses? I've never had a
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> dishwasher smell bad. This one is fairly new. Can't remember exactly
>>
>> >> when
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> I got it. Perhaps 4-6 years ago? It's not like anything is getting in
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> there between uses and it's all clean in there. So... ?
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Why did you spend hundreds of dollars for an appliance that only gets used
>>
>> > 2-3 times a year? You sure are a wasteful person.
>>
>>
>>
>> Would you rather there be a hole there? And it was a gift! I used to use
>>
>> it all the time but I freaking hate all the bending over to load and unload
>>
>> it. It's just easier for me to wash by hand. YMMV.
>
>So, you spent hundreds of dollars for an appliance that you don't want or need or use. Makes sense to me! Not.
>
>Why didn't you just have the husband build a cabinet to fill up the space? Oh wait, that's right, he can't even figure out how to make a can of soup for himself.
>
>You know what, you're full of SHIT.

Julie Bove dosn't know the difference between exaggeration and
outright lying.

On 1/29/2014 10:35 PM, Cheri wrote:

>> Why would the dishwasher smell bad between uses? I've never had a
>> dishwasher smell bad. This one is fairly new. Can't remember exactly
>> when I got it. Perhaps 4-6 years ago? It's not like anything is
>> getting in there between uses and it's all clean in there. So... ?
>
> Because my manual (GE) says there should be a small amount of water left
> after the cycle completes, and if I didn't run it for a long time, it
> would smell. I was wondering how yours doesn't.
>
> Cheri

I know my dishwasher reeks if not used for several days. There's only
two of us and I always wait until I've got a full load so it may take
more than several days to fill it up. I could probably fill it up
faster, but I hand wash all of my stainless steel pots & pans.

--
DreadfulBitch

I intend to live forever....so far, so good.
......Steven Wright

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...

> Loading and unloading the dishwasher was a chore we used to assign to
> the kids. That and changing the cat litter.
>
> Doris

Unloading was always my sons job. To this day his wife says he won't unload
a dishwasher, though he will load it.

Cheri

"DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
...

> I know my dishwasher reeks if not used for several days. There's only two
> of us and I always wait until I've got a full load so it may take more
> than several days to fill it up. I could probably fill it up faster, but I
> hand wash all of my stainless steel pots & pans.

Hmmm... I've had many dishwashers over the years and none ever reeked. Now
the washer that came with the house. Eeeeew! I was so happy to replace
that. That crappy thing had two problems. One was that I think socks and
other small things were getting bailed over the drum and sitting there
somewhere deep inside, wet. I lost more socks to that thing and haven't
lost any socks with this new one.

The other problem was the lint trap. I don't know whose bright idea it was
to put a lint trap on there. Unlike the dryer lint trap, this was next to
impossible to clean. It was a piece of white plastic with sharp teeth on
it. Wet lint was trapped in there. Was supposed to be cleaned out with
every load by rinsing it in the sink. Husband never did this. I tried but
could never get it all the way clean or dry. And there were screws that
held the handle on. I had to take it fully apart one day to try to get out
what had worked its way inside. Still couldn't fully get it all and over
time the machine wound up smelling like a mildewy mess.

If I left the lid open it would at least dry out somewhat and you wouldn't
notice the smell. But husband was constantly leaving that shut and the
dryer door open. Just the opposite of what I told him to do. And he still
does with the new one. Anyway... Got to where doing laundry was torture
because it smelled so foul. Luckily the clothes didn't come out smelling
that way if you took them out right away. But leave them in there for a
couple of hours and they had to be rewashed.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Loading and unloading the dishwasher was a chore we used to assign to
>> the kids. That and changing the cat litter.
>>
>> Doris
>
> Unloading was always my sons job. To this day his wife says he won't
> unload a dishwasher, though he will load it.

None of us mind the loading so much. But we all hate the unloading.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Loading and unloading the dishwasher was a chore we used to assign to
>>> the kids. That and changing the cat litter.
>>>
>>> Doris
>>
>> Unloading was always my sons job. To this day his wife says he won't
>> unload a dishwasher, though he will load it.
>
> None of us mind the loading so much. But we all hate the unloading.

answer: robots

I swear one of my goals in life is to live long enough to see "America's
Funniest Home Robot Videos" tv shows with my own eyes

in the mean time repeat the mantra: at least i didn't have to wash the
damn things myself! and marvel at the splendor of current dishwashing
technology

On Thursday, January 30, 2014 7:38:17 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > So, you spent hundreds of dollars for an appliance that you don't want or
>
> > need or use. Makes sense to me! Not.
>
>
>
> Nope. As I said, it was a gift.
>
> >
>
> > Why didn't you just have the husband build a cabinet to fill up the space?
>
> > Oh wait, that's right, he can't even figure out how to make a can of soup
>
> > for himself.
>
>
>
> Oh bwahahaha! Nobody could build a cabinet that would go with the other
>
> ones that I have now. And if you didn't get the hint that it is difficult
>
> for me to bend over and reach down like that, you should have. A cabinet on
>
> that level wouldn't do me much good at all.
>
>
>
> > You know what, you're full of SHIT.
>
>
>
> Uh, no. I don't use my iron or ironing board much either. Or my hair
>
> dryer. But does that mean I shouldn't own them? At the time that I got the
>
> dishwasher, I did think I would use it all the time. I had in the past.
>
> But then I became a bit frightened to use it after it leaked water all over.
>
> Wasn't the dishwasher at all but the clamp on the hose had come off. I had
>
> been using it probably every other day up until then for about three months.
>
> Was kind of afraid that it might happen again. It hasn't.
>
>
>
> I just discovered that it works better for me to wash things as I go rather
>
> than filling the dishwasher up with a ton of stuff. Used to be when I made
>
> dinner, I might dirty up 3 or 4 bowls. Now? I usually just use the same
>
> bowl, washing or rinsing (depending on what I put in it) and then eventually
>
> putting it away after the last washing. This method works for me. Might
>
> not work for you.
>
>
>
> I know others who don't use their dishwashers. In some cases they don't
>
> work, in some cases they do. They use them for storage. I wouldn't want to
>
> do that but some people do.

What a ****ing weirdo. LOL

wrote:
>
> Julie Bove wrote:
> > I know others who don't use their dishwashers. In some cases they don't
> > work, in some cases they do. They use them for storage. I wouldn't want to
> > do that but some people do.
>
> What a ****ing weirdo. LOL

I'm one too, I suppose. I never use my dishwasher for washing dishes.
Living alone, it would take me days to fill one up to warrant running
it. I just hand wash and use a wooden drying rack with a kitchen towel
underneath to dry the dishes. I can understand how they would be handy
for a family of many people though.

I'll run the dishwasher maybe once every 4-6 months just to keep it
running and cleaned but I run it empty then. It's only the dishwasher
washing itself. In between, I've never had it smell. Maybe because I
keep it closed but not locked tight.

I do store frequently used baking dish and lids for pots and pans in
there. It's easy access to things I use often without digging around
many things in a bottom cabinet.

If this was *my* house and it needed replacing, I would turn the space
into another bottom cabinet with a shelf.

G.

On 1/30/2014 11:22 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Loading and unloading the dishwasher was a chore we used to assign to
>> the kids. That and changing the cat litter.
>>
>> Doris
>
> Unloading was always my sons job. To this day his wife says he won't
> unload a dishwasher, though he will load it.
>
> Cheri

I don't know why but I dread unloading the dishwasher. I put it off as
long as I possibly can. I try to wash up as I go but I do run it a few
months a month. And then I look at it for a couple of days and think,
"I'll unload it tomorrow."

Jill

On Friday, January 24, 2014 10:09:25 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:30:00 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>
>
> > Nope. I don't watch football, ever. If husband is going to be home then, I
>
> > will make him special food but am hoping he will go elsewhere. He says he
>
> > has tickets to the game. Not sure about that.
>
>
>
> He says he has Superbowl tickets but you're not so sure?
>
>
>
> You two must have excellent communication and be really close.
>
>
>
> -sw

Nah - that was just something stupid to say, as per her habit.

Maybe tickets to a bar where wives are not allowed - to get away from HER.

In article >, Gary > wrote:
wrote:
>>
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>> > I know others who don't use their dishwashers. In some cases they don't
>> > work, in some cases they do. They use them for storage. I wouldn't want to
>> > do that but some people do.
>>
>> What a ****ing weirdo. LOL
>
>I'm one too, I suppose. I never use my dishwasher for washing dishes.
>Living alone, it would take me days to fill one up to warrant running
>it. I just hand wash and use a wooden drying rack with a kitchen towel
>underneath to dry the dishes. I can understand how they would be handy
>for a family of many people though.

Well, everybody's different. When my husband is out of town on
business and it's just me here, I run the dishwasher every other
day. When he's here, every day and sometimes twice a day on
the weekends. Of course, we put nearly everything in the dishwasher
(except sharp knives).


Cindy Hamilton
--

On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 09:54:21 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/30/2014 11:22 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Loading and unloading the dishwasher was a chore we used to assign to
>>> the kids. That and changing the cat litter.
>>>
>>> Doris
>>
>> Unloading was always my sons job. To this day his wife says he won't
>> unload a dishwasher, though he will load it.
>>
>> Cheri
>
>I don't know why but I dread unloading the dishwasher. I put it off as
>long as I possibly can. I try to wash up as I go but I do run it a few
>months a month. And then I look at it for a couple of days and think,
>"I'll unload it tomorrow."
>
>Jill
Sometimes I run mine twice a day. It is difficult and painful with a
destroyed rotator cuff, to load and unload the dishwasher. (more to
it than just removing stuff from the DW) I figure that even though I
am "handicapped" I better do things like the DW, and vacuuming,mopping
etc. or all I will be good for is sitting at a computer.
Janet US

On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 15:26:02 GMT, (Cindy Hamilton)
wrote:

>In article >, Gary > wrote:
wrote:
>>>
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> > I know others who don't use their dishwashers. In some cases they don't
>>> > work, in some cases they do. They use them for storage. I wouldn't want to
>>> > do that but some people do.
>>>
>>> What a ****ing weirdo. LOL
>>
>>I'm one too, I suppose. I never use my dishwasher for washing dishes.
>>Living alone, it would take me days to fill one up to warrant running
>>it. I just hand wash and use a wooden drying rack with a kitchen towel
>>underneath to dry the dishes. I can understand how they would be handy
>>for a family of many people though.
>
>Well, everybody's different. When my husband is out of town on
>business and it's just me here, I run the dishwasher every other
>day. When he's here, every day and sometimes twice a day on
>the weekends. Of course, we put nearly everything in the dishwasher
>(except sharp knives).
>
>
>Cindy Hamilton
It's just the two of us. I cook or try to , every day. I use all the
cookware and utensils that I have gotten to do the job. I don't like
doing dishes. I put everything in the DW except anodized pans. I
love my DW.
Janet US

On 1/30/2014 9:47 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Loading and unloading the dishwasher was a chore we used to assign to
>>> the kids. That and changing the cat litter.
>>>
>>> Doris
>>
>> Unloading was always my sons job. To this day his wife says he won't
>> unload a dishwasher, though he will load it.
>
> None of us mind the loading so much. But we all hate the unloading.


The anticipation is worse than the actuality. It's not something I look
forward to, but it takes me literally under 5 minutes to unload a full
dishwasher.

gloria p

On Friday, January 31, 2014 1:14:48 PM UTC-8, gloria p wrote:
> On 1/30/2014 9:47 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >
>
> > "Cheri" > wrote in message
>
> > ...
>
> >>
>
> >> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>
> >> ...
>
> >>
>
> >>> Loading and unloading the dishwasher was a chore we used to assign to
>
> >>> the kids. That and changing the cat litter.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Doris
>
> >>
>
> >> Unloading was always my sons job. To this day his wife says he won't
>
> >> unload a dishwasher, though he will load it.
>
> >
>
> > None of us mind the loading so much. But we all hate the unloading.
>
>
>
>
>
> The anticipation is worse than the actuality. It's not something I look
>
> forward to, but it takes me literally under 5 minutes to unload a full
>
> dishwasher.
>
>
>
> gloria p

This is so true in my case. I make a game of it (occasionally) while warming/cooking something in the microwave. Beat the timer, lol.

So many chores are like that; the anticipation is worse than the reality.

Julie P.

On 1/31/2014 4:14 PM, gloria p wrote:

> The anticipation is worse than the actuality. It's not something I look
> forward to, but it takes me literally under 5 minutes to unload a full
> dishwasher.

The way my kitchen is laid out, if I stand on one side of the
dishwasher I don't have to move to put away most of the stuff,
and move to the other side and put away most everything else.
It's really not a chore.

But the way I see it, very little effort and you feel as if
you accomplished something AND you now get to put in the stray
dirty dishes, coffee cups, whatever that accumulated. It's
like a two-fer.

nancy

On Friday, January 31, 2014 3:57:09 PM UTC-8, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 1/31/2014 4:14 PM, gloria p wrote:
>
>
>
> > The anticipation is worse than the actuality. It's not something I look
>
> > forward to, but it takes me literally under 5 minutes to unload a full
>
> > dishwasher.
>
>
>
> The way my kitchen is laid out, if I stand on one side of the
>
> dishwasher I don't have to move to put away most of the stuff,
>
> and move to the other side and put away most everything else.
>
> It's really not a chore.
>
>
>
> But the way I see it, very little effort and you feel as if
>
> you accomplished something AND you now get to put in the stray
>
> dirty dishes, coffee cups, whatever that accumulated. It's
>
> like a two-fer.
>
>
>
> nancy

Exactly!

Julie P.

On 1/29/2014 11:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>


>>> Really? With the dishwasher? How do you keep it from smelling bad in
>>> between times? I'm curious.
>>
>> Why would the dishwasher smell bad between uses? I've never had a
>> dishwasher smell bad. This one is fairly new. Can't remember exactly
>> when I got it. Perhaps 4-6 years ago? It's not like anything is
>> getting in there between uses and it's all clean in there. So... ?
>
> Because my manual (GE) says there should be a small amount of water left
> after the cycle completes, and if I didn't run it for a long time, it
> would smell. I was wondering how yours doesn't.
>
> Cheri

The only time we ever have an odor is from dirty dishes sitting in it
between loads. Fish, milk and the like will give an odor. Sitting
empty, never had an odor. Ours is Kitchen Aid

On 1/31/2014 1:31 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:

> It's just the two of us. I cook or try to , every day. I use all the
> cookware and utensils that I have gotten to do the job. I don't like
> doing dishes. I put everything in the DW except anodized pans. I
> love my DW.
> Janet US
>

Same here It may run every other day for two of us, but the dishes come
out like new, better than hand washing. Glassware sparkles. Saves hot
water too!

"gloria p" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/30/2014 9:47 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Loading and unloading the dishwasher was a chore we used to assign to
>>>> the kids. That and changing the cat litter.
>>>>
>>>> Doris
>>>
>>> Unloading was always my sons job. To this day his wife says he won't
>>> unload a dishwasher, though he will load it.
>>
>> None of us mind the loading so much. But we all hate the unloading.
>
>
> The anticipation is worse than the actuality. It's not something I look
> forward to, but it takes me literally under 5 minutes to unload a full
> dishwasher.
>
> gloria p

Yes, you're right. I think it's when you get ready to put dirty dishes in
and you realize it needs to be unloaded that it's most annoying.

Cheri

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/29/2014 11:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>
>
>>>> Really? With the dishwasher? How do you keep it from smelling bad in
>>>> between times? I'm curious.
>>>
>>> Why would the dishwasher smell bad between uses? I've never had a
>>> dishwasher smell bad. This one is fairly new. Can't remember exactly
>>> when I got it. Perhaps 4-6 years ago? It's not like anything is
>>> getting in there between uses and it's all clean in there. So... ?
>>
>> Because my manual (GE) says there should be a small amount of water left
>> after the cycle completes, and if I didn't run it for a long time, it
>> would smell. I was wondering how yours doesn't.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> The only time we ever have an odor is from dirty dishes sitting in it
> between loads. Fish, milk and the like will give an odor. Sitting empty,
> never had an odor. Ours is Kitchen Aid

Yes, but we were talking about running the dishwasher two or three times a
year which is how often she runs it.

Cheri

We run our dishwasher at least once each day, and it still sometimes
acquires a nasty odor. I don't know the cause. Perhaps it is from food
residuals in the garbage grinder output - every dishwasher has a
mechanism for disposing solids in the outflow.

When we detect the odor, we treat it by placing a cup filled with white
vinegar on the upper rack, and running the machine cycle. That usually
eliminates it.

There are also cleaning products specifically designed to deodorize and
clean dishwashers. We have not tried them.

--
Julian Vrieslander

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/31/2014 1:31 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> It's just the two of us. I cook or try to , every day. I use all the
>> cookware and utensils that I have gotten to do the job. I don't like
>> doing dishes. I put everything in the DW except anodized pans. I
>> love my DW.
>> Janet US
>>
>
> Same here It may run every other day for two of us, but the dishes come
> out like new, better than hand washing. Glassware sparkles. Saves hot
> water too!

I had a dishwasher repairman tell me not to put glasses in it. This after
several of my glasses were crushed to powder by it to the point of clogging
it up. Wasn't this dishwasher but another one. I also won't put pots and
pans in there or plastics after having some plastic melt. So basically only
casseroles, mixing bowls, plates and flatware would go in there. Since I
have to hand wash the others anyway, washing the rest is no big deal.

I also grew up with no dishwasher and lived in several places that didn't
have one. I did buy a portable one when we lived on Cape Cod and I did use
it although not daily. I also did a lot more baking back then and was
constantly dirtying mixing bowls and such. But I also hadn't learned to
clean as I go. For me it's just much easier.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/30/2014 11:22 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Loading and unloading the dishwasher was a chore we used to assign to
>>> the kids. That and changing the cat litter.
>>>
>>> Doris
>>
>> Unloading was always my sons job. To this day his wife says he won't
>> unload a dishwasher, though he will load it.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I don't know why but I dread unloading the dishwasher. I put it off as
> long as I possibly can. I try to wash up as I go but I do run it a few
> months a month. And then I look at it for a couple of days and think,
> "I'll unload it tomorrow."

I would make the mistake of taking a few things out as needed and then
wouldn't you know, someone else would put something dirty in there, seeing
it not quite full.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/31/2014 4:14 PM, gloria p wrote:
>
>> The anticipation is worse than the actuality. It's not something I look
>> forward to, but it takes me literally under 5 minutes to unload a full
>> dishwasher.
>
> The way my kitchen is laid out, if I stand on one side of the
> dishwasher I don't have to move to put away most of the stuff,
> and move to the other side and put away most everything else.
> It's really not a chore.
>
> But the way I see it, very little effort and you feel as if
> you accomplished something AND you now get to put in the stray
> dirty dishes, coffee cups, whatever that accumulated. It's
> like a two-fer.

My kitchen is laid out so that nothing I would put away is near the
dishwasher.

On Friday, January 31, 2014 11:45:55 PM UTC-8, Julie Bove wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On 1/30/2014 11:22 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>
> >> ...
>
> >>
>
> >>> Loading and unloading the dishwasher was a chore we used to assign to
>
> >>> the kids. That and changing the cat litter.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Doris
>
> >>
>
> >> Unloading was always my sons job. To this day his wife says he won't
>
> >> unload a dishwasher, though he will load it.
>
> >>
>
> >> Cheri
>
> >
>
> > I don't know why but I dread unloading the dishwasher. I put it off as
>
> > long as I possibly can. I try to wash up as I go but I do run it a few
>
> > months a month. And then I look at it for a couple of days and think,
>
> > "I'll unload it tomorrow."
>
>
>
> I would make the mistake of taking a few things out as needed and then
>
> wouldn't you know, someone else would put something dirty in there, seeing
>
> it not quite full.

Unless you live alone, you really do need one of those Clean, Dirty signs or some other method of signaling to others the state of the dishes in there.

Julie P.

> wrote in message
...
> Unless you live alone, you really do need one of those Clean, Dirty signs
> or some other method of signaling to others the state of the dishes in
> there.

I disagree. Pretty easy for me to tell if they are clean or dirty. And my
parents had a sign like that but they would keep forgetting to change it so
it was invariably wrong and that led to arguments.

On Friday, January 31, 2014 11:56:37 PM UTC-8, Julie Bove wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Unless you live alone, you really do need one of those Clean, Dirty signs
>
> > or some other method of signaling to others the state of the dishes in
>
> > there.
>
>
>
> I disagree. Pretty easy for me to tell if they are clean or dirty. And my
>
> parents had a sign like that but they would keep forgetting to change it so
>
> it was invariably wrong and that led to arguments.

But, but you said... Oh well, never mind.

Julie P.