I don't really do much with my Pinterest boards but I know some people here
do. Twice in the past several days I got what appeared to be a phishing
email telling me that there was suspicious activity to my account and it had
been put into safe mode. Told me to change my password. I did do that via
their website and not the link in the email. I did see two pins that were
pics of some sort of weight loss thing. It was weird. They showed as
thumbnails on my board but when I clicked on the board, they were not really
there.

Today I got the same email. I had changed my password but it would seem
that they did it again! This time more of the same but slightly different.
They created a whole new board this time. I deleted it.

In doing a search, I am far from the only person this has happened to and it
may well have been a legit email. The search turned up countless sources
that said Pinterest is getting hacked right and left and they are clueless
about it. People are having entire boards removed by who knows who. So
just a warning that this is happening.

At this point I am tempted to just delete my account since I really don't
use it.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:32:04 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I don't really do much with my Pinterest boards but I know some people here
> do. Twice in the past several days I got what appeared to be a phishing
> email telling me that there was suspicious activity to my account and it had
> been put into safe mode. Told me to change my password. I did do that via
> their website and not the link in the email. I did see two pins that were
> pics of some sort of weight loss thing. It was weird. They showed as
> thumbnails on my board but when I clicked on the board, they were not really
> there.
>
> Today I got the same email. I had changed my password but it would seem
> that they did it again! This time more of the same but slightly different.
> They created a whole new board this time. I deleted it.
>
> In doing a search, I am far from the only person this has happened to and it
> may well have been a legit email. The search turned up countless sources
> that said Pinterest is getting hacked right and left and they are clueless
> about it. People are having entire boards removed by who knows who. So
> just a warning that this is happening.
>
> At this point I am tempted to just delete my account since I really don't
> use it.

You might as well delete your account if you don't use it. A post
like this makes you sound like one of the people who constantly
complain about Facebook without knowing a thing about it.

I use Pinterest on a daily basis and have never had a problem, but I
always check my links before Pinning them. I want it to go directly
to whatever website it is supposed to be, not through Yummily or
whatever else it was pinned from. I have an extension on each browser
that I bring up with a right click to search for an image via google
images to find the original source and can clean up somebody else's
mess quickly.

I don't see it anymore, because Pinterest has made it so much easier
to report them - but there were some real idiots out there who
probably had a virus on their home computer, so all of their beautiful
Pinned photos led to the same website (usually for weight loss).

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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:48:17 -0800, sf wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:32:04 -0800, "Julie Bove" >
> wrote:
>>
>> At this point I am tempted to just delete my account since I really
>> don't use it.
>
> You might as well delete your account if you don't use it. A post like
> this makes you sound like one of the people who constantly complain about
> Facebook without knowing a thing about it.


http://www.geekosystem.com/facebook-mathematical-model/

But before you start wearing mourning clothes, Pinterest is probably the
next in line.

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
news
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:48:17 -0800, sf wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:32:04 -0800, "Julie Bove" >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> At this point I am tempted to just delete my account since I really
>>> don't use it.
>>
>> You might as well delete your account if you don't use it. A post like
>> this makes you sound like one of the people who constantly complain about
>> Facebook without knowing a thing about it.
>
>
> http://www.geekosystem.com/facebook-mathematical-model/
>
> But before you start wearing mourning clothes, Pinterest is probably the
> next in line.

I read that somewhere about facebook. They said is because adults are
joining what the kids thought of their own place.


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> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:01:33 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:48:17 -0800, sf wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:32:04 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> At this point I am tempted to just delete my account since I really
>>>>> don't use it.
>>>>
>>>> You might as well delete your account if you don't use it. A post like
>>>> this makes you sound like one of the people who constantly complain
>>>> about
>>>> Facebook without knowing a thing about it.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.geekosystem.com/facebook-mathematical-model/
>>>
>>> But before you start wearing mourning clothes, Pinterest is probably the
>>> next in line.
>>
>>I read that somewhere about facebook. They said is because adults are
>>joining what the kids thought of their own place.
>
> Lol yes, kids were saying it had become 'geezerfied'

That's the one

>

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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:27:52 -0400, lucretiaborgia wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:01:33 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:

>>I read that somewhere about facebook. They said is because adults are
>>joining what the kids thought of their own place.
>
> Lol yes, kids were saying it had become 'geezerfied'

<snork>

The fact that FB marketing hype encouraged anyone from 13 y/o to 113 y/o
to 'join up' might go down in history as one of their biggest mistakes...

It would seem that these guys can't really win, can they? MySpace was
aimed at the teenagers and that flopped, now this. One has to wonder what
the 'heirs to the social networking thrones' are gonna come up with next.
GeezerPhace maybe? ;-)

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Chatty Cathy

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:47:06 +0000, Ophelia wrote:


> I have never tweeted good to have an outlet for something like that I
> suppose

Maybe - and only if one engages brain before 'tweeting'. Late last year,
there was a case of an American PR Executive (who worked for some Big
Company) losing her job because of a scarily stupid, insensitive 'tweet'
she made while making her way to South Africa for a business trip.
Basically, by the time her plane landed (or very shortly thereafter), she
was fired... And even though she made a bunch of public apologies etc.,
the chances of her finding another job in the near future are probably
fairly slim. Mud sticks.

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Chatty Cathy

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
news
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:47:06 +0000, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
>> I have never tweeted good to have an outlet for something like that I
>> suppose
>
> Maybe - and only if one engages brain before 'tweeting'. Late last year,
> there was a case of an American PR Executive (who worked for some Big
> Company) losing her job because of a scarily stupid, insensitive 'tweet'
> she made while making her way to South Africa for a business trip.
> Basically, by the time her plane landed (or very shortly thereafter), she
> was fired... And even though she made a bunch of public apologies etc.,
> the chances of her finding another job in the near future are probably
> fairly slim. Mud sticks.

Ain't that the truth. Some people here have been jailed for 5 years for on
line bullying! Long may it continue. Too many people think they are safe
....


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:32:04 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I don't really do much with my Pinterest boards but I know some people
>> here
>> do. Twice in the past several days I got what appeared to be a phishing
>> email telling me that there was suspicious activity to my account and it
>> had
>> been put into safe mode. Told me to change my password. I did do that
>> via
>> their website and not the link in the email. I did see two pins that
>> were
>> pics of some sort of weight loss thing. It was weird. They showed as
>> thumbnails on my board but when I clicked on the board, they were not
>> really
>> there.
>>
>> Today I got the same email. I had changed my password but it would seem
>> that they did it again! This time more of the same but slightly
>> different.
>> They created a whole new board this time. I deleted it.
>>
>> In doing a search, I am far from the only person this has happened to and
>> it
>> may well have been a legit email. The search turned up countless sources
>> that said Pinterest is getting hacked right and left and they are
>> clueless
>> about it. People are having entire boards removed by who knows who. So
>> just a warning that this is happening.
>>
>> At this point I am tempted to just delete my account since I really don't
>> use it.
>
> You might as well delete your account if you don't use it. A post
> like this makes you sound like one of the people who constantly
> complain about Facebook without knowing a thing about it.

No it doesn't.
>
> I use Pinterest on a daily basis and have never had a problem, but I
> always check my links before Pinning them. I want it to go directly
> to whatever website it is supposed to be, not through Yummily or
> whatever else it was pinned from. I have an extension on each browser
> that I bring up with a right click to search for an image via google
> images to find the original source and can clean up somebody else's
> mess quickly.

I check mine too. Nothing fishy there. I have perhaps 20-30 pins. Pinned
some time ago.
>
> I don't see it anymore, because Pinterest has made it so much easier
> to report them - but there were some real idiots out there who
> probably had a virus on their home computer, so all of their beautiful
> Pinned photos led to the same website (usually for weight loss).

Not according to what I read online. It really is a massive hack attack and
has been going on since 2012. Pinterest themselves even mentioned it.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
> news
>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:48:17 -0800, sf wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:32:04 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> At this point I am tempted to just delete my account since I really
>>>> don't use it.
>>>
>>> You might as well delete your account if you don't use it. A post like
>>> this makes you sound like one of the people who constantly complain
>>> about
>>> Facebook without knowing a thing about it.
>>
>>
>> http://www.geekosystem.com/facebook-mathematical-model/
>>
>> But before you start wearing mourning clothes, Pinterest is probably the
>> next in line.
>
> I read that somewhere about facebook. They said is because adults are
> joining what the kids thought of their own place.

Yeah. That's all over the news.

On 1/25/2014 2:15 PM, ChattyCathy wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:47:06 +0000, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
>> I have never tweeted good to have an outlet for something like that I
>> suppose
>
> Maybe - and only if one engages brain before 'tweeting'. Late last year,
> there was a case of an American PR Executive (who worked for some Big
> Company) losing her job because of a scarily stupid, insensitive 'tweet'
> she made while making her way to South Africa for a business trip.

FWIW, she's British and was born in South Africa. She did
work for an American firm.

What the hell was she thinking.

nancy

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:56:19 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:


> Unfortunately the means of communication for many businesses that I use
> is through Facebook. So it would matter to me.

Which 'businesses' would those be? 'Momma's home cookies' or 'Joe
Citizen's Gardening Service' - or maybe 'Jake the Plumber'?

IMHO, if the only way one can do 'business' with a company or service
provider is via FB then they're not worth doing business with in the first
place.

Good grief, what's next? Having to have a FB account in order to have
water and power supplied to your home - or to open a bank account? Gimme a
break. I'm fairly sure if you read FB's T&Cs there will be a 'best effort'
clause buried in there somewhere.... Go look it up.

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:29:39 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:

> On 1/25/2014 2:15 PM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:47:06 +0000, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have never tweeted good to have an outlet for something like that
>>> I suppose
>>
>> Maybe - and only if one engages brain before 'tweeting'. Late last year,
>> there was a case of an American PR Executive (who worked for some Big
>> Company) losing her job because of a scarily stupid, insensitive 'tweet'
>> she made while making her way to South Africa for a business trip.
>
> FWIW, she's British and was born in South Africa. She did work for an
> American firm.

Ah. Didn't know that; local press here didn't go into that much detail.
>
> What the hell was she thinking.

Quite so.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:55:33 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:48:17 -0800, sf wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:32:04 -0800, "Julie Bove" >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> At this point I am tempted to just delete my account since I really
> >> don't use it.
> >
> > You might as well delete your account if you don't use it. A post like
> > this makes you sound like one of the people who constantly complain about
> > Facebook without knowing a thing about it.
>
>
> http://www.geekosystem.com/facebook-mathematical-model/
>
> But before you start wearing mourning clothes, Pinterest is probably the
> next in line.

I'm talking about the people who don't use it and whine anyway. As
far as FB "losing" customers... the younger set went elsewhere as
soon as their parents and grandparents discovered it. In the future,
FB will be like usenet - the land of dinosaurs. No idea what
Pinterest will be in the future. I use it as online recipe storage
and have no interest in "social networking" with it.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:29:39 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:

> On 1/25/2014 2:15 PM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:47:06 +0000, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have never tweeted good to have an outlet for something like that
>>> I suppose
>>
>> Maybe - and only if one engages brain before 'tweeting'. Late last
>> year, there was a case of an American PR Executive (who worked for some
>> Big Company) losing her job because of a scarily stupid, insensitive
>> 'tweet' she made while making her way to South Africa for a business
>> trip.
>
> FWIW, she's British and was born in South Africa. She did work for an
> American firm.

Just looked it up:

According to our local news:

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Ne...hamed-20131223

<quote>

Justine Sacco: I am ashamed
2013-12-23 09:34

Cape Town - An American woman who was fired from her position as a public
relations executive for a racist tweet about Africa says "I am very
sorry for the pain I have caused".
</quote>

Maybe I should have done some more research, but I didn't think an 'air
head' like that was worth it.
>
> What the hell was she thinking.
>
> nancy



--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:47:06 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

> I have never tweeted good to have an outlet for something like that I
> suppose

Can't imagine what the draw is with Twitter - or Linkedin for that
matter.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:46:57 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

> Good grief, what's next? Having to have a FB account in order to have
> water and power supplied to your home - or to open a bank account? Gimme a
> break. I'm fairly sure if you read FB's T&Cs there will be a 'best effort'
> clause buried in there somewhere.... Go look it up.

FB is a way for mom and pop companies to communicate what's new to
their customer base. It's a less intimidating form of communication
for those who think building and maintaining a web site is too
expensive to have it done for them and out of their DIY areas of
expertise.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On 1/25/2014 5:00 PM, ChattyCathy wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:29:39 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> On 1/25/2014 2:15 PM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:47:06 +0000, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have never tweeted good to have an outlet for something like that
>>>> I suppose
>>>
>>> Maybe - and only if one engages brain before 'tweeting'. Late last
>>> year, there was a case of an American PR Executive (who worked for some
>>> Big Company) losing her job because of a scarily stupid, insensitive
>>> 'tweet' she made while making her way to South Africa for a business
>>> trip.
>>
>> FWIW, she's British and was born in South Africa. She did work for an
>> American firm.
>
> Just looked it up:
>
> According to our local news:
>
> http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Ne...hamed-20131223
>
> <quote>
>
> Justine Sacco: I am ashamed
> 2013-12-23 09:34
>
> Cape Town - An American woman who was fired from her position as a public
> relations executive for a racist tweet about Africa says "I am very
> sorry for the pain I have caused".
> </quote>
>
> Maybe I should have done some more research, but I didn't think an 'air
> head' like that was worth it.

It's the press that needs to 'do more research' ... why wouldn't you
believe what it said. Her father still lives in SA, think the press
would have noticed that, too.

Thing is, I cringed when I heard it was an American firm's PR, then
I noticed she flew out of London and looked up what I could find.

nancy

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:53:30 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> > I don't see it anymore, because Pinterest has made it so much easier
> > to report them - but there were some real idiots out there who
> > probably had a virus on their home computer, so all of their beautiful
> > Pinned photos led to the same website (usually for weight loss).
>
> Not according to what I read online. It really is a massive hack attack and
> has been going on since 2012. Pinterest themselves even mentioned it.

Honestly, I have no idea what you've been reading and don't care. As
I said previously, I use it daily, have thousands of Pins and don't
see whatever it is you're trying to spread fear about. So they're
being hacked - so what? Target, the military and the US government
are being attacked daily too. That's what happens when you're a
"presence" on the internet.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:50:11 -0800, sf wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:46:57 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
>
>> Good grief, what's next? Having to have a FB account in order to have
>> water and power supplied to your home - or to open a bank account?
>> Gimme a break. I'm fairly sure if you read FB's T&Cs there will be a
>> 'best effort' clause buried in there somewhere.... Go look it up.
>
> FB is a way for mom and pop companies to communicate what's new to their
> customer base. It's a less intimidating form of communication for those
> who think building and maintaining a web site is too expensive to have
> it done for them and out of their DIY areas of expertise.

Yeah, yeah, heard it all before - but if FB suddenly does go down - are
these 'mom and pop' store owners all gonna throw their hands in the air,
panic and close up shop? I sincerely doubt it.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On 1/25/2014 12:50 PM, sf wrote:
>
> FB is a way for mom and pop companies to communicate what's new to
> their customer base. It's a less intimidating form of communication
> for those who think building and maintaining a web site is too
> expensive to have it done for them and out of their DIY areas of
> expertise.
>
There's no doubt that a lot of the kids will think FB is for geezers but
the social network will continue to evolve with it's user base getting
older with more emphasis on strengthening family connections. My
daughter has pulled out of FB but her boyfriend's family has a strong
presence there. They have a very vibrant family page. I do not go to
that family site but get reports from my wife who scans the pages often.
Their kids and cousins and mothers and uncles and grandmothers and
great-great grandmothers find FB a most wonderful way of keeping in
touch.

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 02:07:18 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:50:11 -0800, sf wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:46:57 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Good grief, what's next? Having to have a FB account in order to have
> >> water and power supplied to your home - or to open a bank account?
> >> Gimme a break. I'm fairly sure if you read FB's T&Cs there will be a
> >> 'best effort' clause buried in there somewhere.... Go look it up.
> >
> > FB is a way for mom and pop companies to communicate what's new to their
> > customer base. It's a less intimidating form of communication for those
> > who think building and maintaining a web site is too expensive to have
> > it done for them and out of their DIY areas of expertise.
>
> Yeah, yeah, heard it all before - but if FB suddenly does go down - are
> these 'mom and pop' store owners all gonna throw their hands in the air,
> panic and close up shop? I sincerely doubt it.

I doubt it too - I also doubt they would suddenly see the light and go
with a professionally designed and maintained web page. they'd just
move on to whatever new "social networking" site that isn't too
intimidating.


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Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:38:48 -0400, wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:07:06 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:47:06 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I have never tweeted good to have an outlet for something like that I
> >> suppose
> >
> >Can't imagine what the draw is with Twitter - or Linkedin for that
> >matter.
>
> I would say exactly the same about FB and Pinterest, of no use
> whatsoever.

If you don't have any interests, then Pinterest isn't for you and
either you like it or you don't with FB. I'm a late comer to and
still am not convinced it's indispensable. I really like Pinterest,
but it's because I treat it like I do Word, except one of the options
I have to peruse my files is visually and I like that. If you don't,
it's no skin off my nose. I'm not telling you to use it, but don't
whine about it like Julie does with sites she doesn't use.


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Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 15:02:44 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

> On 1/25/2014 12:50 PM, sf wrote:
> >
> > FB is a way for mom and pop companies to communicate what's new to
> > their customer base. It's a less intimidating form of communication
> > for those who think building and maintaining a web site is too
> > expensive to have it done for them and out of their DIY areas of
> > expertise.
> >
> There's no doubt that a lot of the kids will think FB is for geezers but
> the social network will continue to evolve with it's user base getting
> older with more emphasis on strengthening family connections. My
> daughter has pulled out of FB but her boyfriend's family has a strong
> presence there. They have a very vibrant family page. I do not go to
> that family site but get reports from my wife who scans the pages often.
> Their kids and cousins and mothers and uncles and grandmothers and
> great-great grandmothers find FB a most wonderful way of keeping in
> touch.

Yes, I understand. A couple of occasional posters from rfc also use
FB that way and they stay logged in so family can chat with them via
the chat box. I never read my FB "Friends" (including close family:
DS, DD nieces and nephews) home pages. If it doesn't appear in my
news feed, it doesn't exist. They have to tag me or mention me by
name with an @ to make sure I see whatever it is they want me to
see... and then I might miss it.


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Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:04:33 AM UTC-6, John J wrote:
>
> >I could not agree with you more. I really don't understand all of this "sharing", either.
>
>
>
> Thanks for sharing that opinion.

And thanks for sharing your thanks.

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:26:42 -0800, sf wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 02:07:18 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
>
>
>> Yeah, yeah, heard it all before - but if FB suddenly does go down - are
>> these 'mom and pop' store owners all gonna throw their hands in the
>> air, panic and close up shop? I sincerely doubt it.
>
> I doubt it too - I also doubt they would suddenly see the light and go
> with a professionally designed and maintained web page. they'd just
> move on to whatever new "social networking" site that isn't too
> intimidating.

You're probably right. But you're missing my point (again).

I have no idea if our local 'mom and pop' supermarket has a FB page, or is
listed on the electronic yellow pages/whatever. Odds are they do/are but I
don't shop there because of that. I shop there because they usually have
what I want on the shelves when I go there and the meat/poultry in the
butchery section is of high quality and is no more expensive than the
bigger supermarket chains around here...

At one time they didn't stock a particular brand of cat food our felines
prefer, so I asked the manager if he could order it - and he did, and now
they always have it in stock. That's what I call 'real service' - and I
couldn't give a hoot whether they have a FB/whatever presence or not. They
do things like this for other people I know who shop there too - so 'word
of mouth' is still alive and kicking.

As an aside - have you seen the movie 'Gravity'? I just had to chuckle
when George Clooney's character Matt Kowalski said, "Half of North America
just lost their Facebook".

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 17:04:33 +1100, John J wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:03:45 -0800 (PST),
> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, January 25, 2014 12:21:41 PM UTC-6, Chatty Cathy wrote:


>>> FWIW, if FB/Twitter/Pinterest etc. suddenly ceased to exist tomorrow,
>>> it wouldn't make an iota of difference to me. Jes' sayin'
>>
>>I could not agree with you more. I really don't understand all of this
>>"sharing", either.
>
> Thanks for sharing that opinion.

<snork>

Well, I didn't read or 'share' anything with this NG for a couple of years
and the world didn't stop turning for me - and I'm willing to bet nobody
gave a damn.

Mind you, there might have been one of those "Anybody heard from XXXX?"
threads, to which certain posters might have replied, "I hope she's not
dead" <yeah, right> while others would have said, "Hope she is dead and
good riddance". Then somebody would have googled and come to the
conclusion I *was* dead and posted something to that effect.... Then, more
than likely it would have morphed into a nice flame war about 'speaking
ill of the dead' and/or what a moron/saint I was <cough> - which might
have been cause for some entertainment value here - for a couple of hours,
anyway.

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 09:13:49 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:26:42 -0800, sf wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 02:07:18 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Yeah, yeah, heard it all before - but if FB suddenly does go down - are
> >> these 'mom and pop' store owners all gonna throw their hands in the
> >> air, panic and close up shop? I sincerely doubt it.
> >
> > I doubt it too - I also doubt they would suddenly see the light and go
> > with a professionally designed and maintained web page. they'd just
> > move on to whatever new "social networking" site that isn't too
> > intimidating.
>
> You're probably right. But you're missing my point (again).
>
> I have no idea if our local 'mom and pop' supermarket has a FB page, or is
> listed on the electronic yellow pages/whatever. Odds are they do/are but I
> don't shop there because of that. I shop there because they usually have
> what I want on the shelves when I go there and the meat/poultry in the
> butchery section is of high quality and is no more expensive than the
> bigger supermarket chains around here...
>
> At one time they didn't stock a particular brand of cat food our felines
> prefer, so I asked the manager if he could order it - and he did, and now
> they always have it in stock. That's what I call 'real service' - and I
> couldn't give a hoot whether they have a FB/whatever presence or not. They
> do things like this for other people I know who shop there too - so 'word
> of mouth' is still alive and kicking.

Is word of mouth the point you thought I was missing? <shrug> So
what?
>
> As an aside - have you seen the movie 'Gravity'? I just had to chuckle
> when George Clooney's character Matt Kowalski said, "Half of North America
> just lost their Facebook".

No I haven't seen it, probably never will. Too b-o-r-i-n-g.


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Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:41:19 -0800, sf wrote:


> Is word of mouth the point you thought I was missing? <shrug> So what?

No, the point you are missing is that not everyone on the planet would
miss FB or other social networks if they ceased to exist. But clearly you
would.

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
news
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:56:19 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>
>> Unfortunately the means of communication for many businesses that I use
>> is through Facebook. So it would matter to me.
>
> Which 'businesses' would those be? 'Momma's home cookies' or 'Joe
> Citizen's Gardening Service' - or maybe 'Jake the Plumber'?

Angela's dance studio, some stores and restaurants.
>
> IMHO, if the only way one can do 'business' with a company or service
> provider is via FB then they're not worth doing business with in the first
> place.

More and more businesses are going that route. Especially restaurants.
They do that instead of getting a proper website.
>
> Good grief, what's next? Having to have a FB account in order to have
> water and power supplied to your home - or to open a bank account? Gimme a
> break. I'm fairly sure if you read FB's T&Cs there will be a 'best effort'
> clause buried in there somewhere.... Go look it up.

Sorry, I have no clue what that is. And I only got a Twitter account
because the school required it at some point. Don't think they actually
ever used it though.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:46:57 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
>
>> Good grief, what's next? Having to have a FB account in order to have
>> water and power supplied to your home - or to open a bank account? Gimme
>> a
>> break. I'm fairly sure if you read FB's T&Cs there will be a 'best
>> effort'
>> clause buried in there somewhere.... Go look it up.
>
> FB is a way for mom and pop companies to communicate what's new to
> their customer base. It's a less intimidating form of communication
> for those who think building and maintaining a web site is too
> expensive to have it done for them and out of their DIY areas of
> expertise.

The dance studio has a website but... They don't run it. They hire someone
to do that for them. If they need to get the word out quickly to us all,
they use email and Facebook. Facebook is quicker, I'm sure!

"sf" > wrote in message
...
>> Yeah, yeah, heard it all before - but if FB suddenly does go down - are
>> these 'mom and pop' store owners all gonna throw their hands in the air,
>> panic and close up shop? I sincerely doubt it.
>
> I doubt it too - I also doubt they would suddenly see the light and go
> with a professionally designed and maintained web page. they'd just
> move on to whatever new "social networking" site that isn't too
> intimidating.

Yep.

I happen to like FB. I can get the word out to all of my friends at once.
Might not apply to them but if I'm in a hurry, I can do that a lot faster
than calling or emailing them all.

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
news
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:41:19 -0800, sf wrote:
>
>
>> Is word of mouth the point you thought I was missing? <shrug> So what?
>
> No, the point you are missing is that not everyone on the planet would
> miss FB or other social networks if they ceased to exist. But clearly you
> would.

I was in a waiting room of a Drs. office once. A man and his teenaged son
were there with their smart phones. The dad freaked because he couldn't get
FB to load. Then he turned to the son and said, "Is Myspace working?" It
was.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/25/2014 12:50 PM, sf wrote:
>>
>> FB is a way for mom and pop companies to communicate what's new to
>> their customer base. It's a less intimidating form of communication
>> for those who think building and maintaining a web site is too
>> expensive to have it done for them and out of their DIY areas of
>> expertise.
>>
> There's no doubt that a lot of the kids will think FB is for geezers but
> the social network will continue to evolve with it's user base getting
> older with more emphasis on strengthening family connections. My daughter
> has pulled out of FB but her boyfriend's family has a strong presence
> there. They have a very vibrant family page. I do not go to that family
> site but get reports from my wife who scans the pages often. Their kids
> and cousins and mothers and uncles and grandmothers and great-great
> grandmothers find FB a most wonderful way of keeping in touch.

If it weren't for FB, I wouldn't hear from some of my relatives.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:55:33 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:48:17 -0800, sf wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:32:04 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > >
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> At this point I am tempted to just delete my account since I really
>> >> don't use it.
>> >
>> > You might as well delete your account if you don't use it. A post like
>> > this makes you sound like one of the people who constantly complain
>> > about
>> > Facebook without knowing a thing about it.
>>
>>
>> http://www.geekosystem.com/facebook-mathematical-model/
>>
>> But before you start wearing mourning clothes, Pinterest is probably the
>> next in line.
>
> I'm talking about the people who don't use it and whine anyway. As
> far as FB "losing" customers... the younger set went elsewhere as
> soon as their parents and grandparents discovered it. In the future,
> FB will be like usenet - the land of dinosaurs. No idea what
> Pinterest will be in the future. I use it as online recipe storage
> and have no interest in "social networking" with it.

I had my FB long before Angela did. But other adults that I know had it
before that. Pinterest is a photo sharing site despite what you are using
yours for.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:38:48 -0400, wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:07:06 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:47:06 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have never tweeted good to have an outlet for something like that
>> >> I
>> >> suppose
>> >
>> >Can't imagine what the draw is with Twitter - or Linkedin for that
>> >matter.
>>
>> I would say exactly the same about FB and Pinterest, of no use
>> whatsoever.
>
> If you don't have any interests, then Pinterest isn't for you and
> either you like it or you don't with FB. I'm a late comer to and
> still am not convinced it's indispensable. I really like Pinterest,
> but it's because I treat it like I do Word, except one of the options
> I have to peruse my files is visually and I like that. If you don't,
> it's no skin off my nose. I'm not telling you to use it, but don't
> whine about it like Julie does with sites she doesn't use.

I wasn't whining. Just mentioning the hack. And I have plenty of
interests. I just don't feel the need to keep track of them!

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:53:30 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> > I don't see it anymore, because Pinterest has made it so much easier
>> > to report them - but there were some real idiots out there who
>> > probably had a virus on their home computer, so all of their beautiful
>> > Pinned photos led to the same website (usually for weight loss).
>>
>> Not according to what I read online. It really is a massive hack attack
>> and
>> has been going on since 2012. Pinterest themselves even mentioned it.
>
> Honestly, I have no idea what you've been reading and don't care. As
> I said previously, I use it daily, have thousands of Pins and don't
> see whatever it is you're trying to spread fear about. So they're
> being hacked - so what? Target, the military and the US government
> are being attacked daily too. That's what happens when you're a
> "presence" on the internet.

Okay then. Don't say that you weren't warned! If your pins all go away
you'd be SOL because that's how you save stuff.

In article >, cathy1234
@mailinator.com says...
>
> Well, I didn't read or 'share' anything with this NG for a couple of years
> and the world didn't stop turning for me - and I'm willing to bet nobody
> gave a damn.
>
> Mind you, there might have been one of those "Anybody heard from XXXX?"
> threads, to which certain posters might have replied, "I hope she's not
> dead" <yeah, right> while others would have said, "Hope she is dead and
> good riddance". Then somebody would have googled and come to the
> conclusion I *was* dead and posted something to that effect....

That's right! I remember the flame wars about whether to send a wreath
that looked like a cake, or a cake that looked like a wreath, and
whether candles on it would be just plain tacky at a cremation.

Janet UK

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 03:31:00 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:


> "ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
> news
>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:56:19 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Unfortunately the means of communication for many businesses that I
>>> use is through Facebook. So it would matter to me.
>>
>> Which 'businesses' would those be? 'Momma's home cookies' or 'Joe
>> Citizen's Gardening Service' - or maybe 'Jake the Plumber'?
>
> Angela's dance studio, some stores and restaurants.

Don't these businesses/stores/restaurants have telephones - or email? And
why would you need to use their FB pages to 'communicate' with them? Sure,
you might want to know what their latest specials are - or what time
Angela should be at the studio for her lessons... She does actually go
there, doesn't she - or does she just watch videos loaded on their FB page
and dance along to those? If so, I'm sure there are DVDs one can purchase
or hire that do the same job...


>> IMHO, if the only way one can do 'business' with a company or service
>> provider is via FB then they're not worth doing business with in the
>> first place.
>
> More and more businesses are going that route. Especially restaurants.
> They do that instead of getting a proper website.

Well yes, I'm well aware of this - as I've already said to sf elsewhere in
this thread. But I still fail to believe that if FB and/or any other
social networking site suddenly ceased to exist, surely you'd still have
some other means of contacting them and/or they'd not automatically go out
of business because of it.


>> Good grief, what's next? Having to have a FB account in order to have
>> water and power supplied to your home - or to open a bank account?
>> Gimme a break. I'm fairly sure if you read FB's T&Cs there will be a
>> 'best effort' clause buried in there somewhere.... Go look it up.
>
> Sorry, I have no clue what that is.

OK, T&Cs are Terms & Conditions of service - that every single FB user
agrees to automatically when they create an account with them (private or
business, makes no difference). And in these terms and conditions there
will be a clause that states something along the lines of "we can only
guarantee access to our site on a best effort basis" - which means that
they will do all they can to keep the site up 24/7, 365 days a year, but
if an earthquake breaks a bunch of undersea cables or some fool employee
of theirs rolls out an 'upgrade' that breaks things, etc. which in turn
disrupts said access, tough luck! Even 'pay for' websites and ISPs have
clauses like that.

> And I only got a Twitter account
> because the school required it at some point. Don't think they actually
> ever used it though.

You can't be serious? How any school could 'legally' require that of
parents/guardians is beyond me. They might have suggested it, but I cannot
see it being a 'requirement'.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

In article >,
says...

> Interesting - you decided to sneer about my very occasional use of
> twitter but it's okay for you to rain on me for my lack of interest in
> FB and Pinterest - rules for one but not for the other I guess!

Welcome to sf-world, where gravity and logic do not exist. You are now
at the centre of the universe.

Janet UK