How to combine pasta with sauce... and you know which numbskull this
is posted for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBpbWhfsBxw


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On 2014-02-25 15:29:01 +0000, sf said:

> How to combine pasta with sauce... and you know which numbskull this
> is posted for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBpbWhfsBxw

What the ****--I learned something!

I was delighted to find I didn't do any of the obviously "wrong"
things. But I hadn't previously, 1) Add some pasta water to the dish
as a matter of course, though recently I've started doing it for some
other reasons. And 2) The idea of adding butter/oil/cheese thing at
the end. That I've never heard of. I do add garni at the end, but
don't mix it in over heat.

Some of the first few "wrong's" seem inconceivable: Putting the cooked
pasta on a plate and then starting the sauce! What the hell. I start
the sauce well in advance of cooking the pasta. I can't imagine how
anybody could do that. Also putting sauce on pasta laying on a plate
also makes for real cognitive dissonance: I never had to be told these
two.

Please tell me no one locally has been championing these methods...

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2014022514175435448-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2014-02-25 15:29:01 +0000, sf said:
>
>> How to combine pasta with sauce... and you know which numbskull this
>> is posted for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBpbWhfsBxw
>
> What the ****--I learned something!
>
> I was delighted to find I didn't do any of the obviously "wrong" things.
> But I hadn't previously, 1) Add some pasta water to the dish as a matter
> of course, though recently I've started doing it for some other reasons.
> And 2) The idea of adding butter/oil/cheese thing at the end. That I've
> never heard of. I do add garni at the end, but don't mix it in over heat.
>
> Some of the first few "wrong's" seem inconceivable: Putting the cooked
> pasta on a plate and then starting the sauce! What the hell. I start the
> sauce well in advance of cooking the pasta. I can't imagine how anybody
> could do that. Also putting sauce on pasta laying on a plate also makes
> for real cognitive dissonance: I never had to be told these two.
>
> Please tell me no one locally has been championing these methods...

I ain't a tellin' ya nuffin' <g> BUT did you go to the bit about cooking a
burger???? What was that dark stuff he stuffed it with???

The way this guy showed it, I am tempted to make one but what was that he
stuffed it with???



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On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:36:14 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "gtr" > wrote in message news:2014022514175435448-xxx@yyyzzz...
> > On 2014-02-25 15:29:01 +0000, sf said:
> >
> >> How to combine pasta with sauce... and you know which numbskull this
> >> is posted for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBpbWhfsBxw
> >
> > What the ****--I learned something!
> >
> > I was delighted to find I didn't do any of the obviously "wrong" things.
> > But I hadn't previously, 1) Add some pasta water to the dish as a matter
> > of course, though recently I've started doing it for some other reasons.
> > And 2) The idea of adding butter/oil/cheese thing at the end. That I've
> > never heard of. I do add garni at the end, but don't mix it in over heat.
> >
> > Some of the first few "wrong's" seem inconceivable: Putting the cooked
> > pasta on a plate and then starting the sauce! What the hell. I start the
> > sauce well in advance of cooking the pasta. I can't imagine how anybody
> > could do that. Also putting sauce on pasta laying on a plate also makes
> > for real cognitive dissonance: I never had to be told these two.
> >
> > Please tell me no one locally has been championing these methods...
>
> I ain't a tellin' ya nuffin' <g> BUT did you go to the bit about cooking a
> burger???? What was that dark stuff he stuffed it with???
>
> The way this guy showed it, I am tempted to make one but what was that he
> stuffed it with???

I don't do stuffed burgers, that's where the med-rare part of the meat
should be.


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:36:14 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "gtr" > wrote in message
>> news:2014022514175435448-xxx@yyyzzz...
>> > On 2014-02-25 15:29:01 +0000, sf said:
>> >
>> >> How to combine pasta with sauce... and you know which numbskull this
>> >> is posted for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBpbWhfsBxw
>> >
>> > What the ****--I learned something!
>> >
>> > I was delighted to find I didn't do any of the obviously "wrong"
>> > things.
>> > But I hadn't previously, 1) Add some pasta water to the dish as a
>> > matter
>> > of course, though recently I've started doing it for some other
>> > reasons.
>> > And 2) The idea of adding butter/oil/cheese thing at the end. That
>> > I've
>> > never heard of. I do add garni at the end, but don't mix it in over
>> > heat.
>> >
>> > Some of the first few "wrong's" seem inconceivable: Putting the cooked
>> > pasta on a plate and then starting the sauce! What the hell. I start
>> > the
>> > sauce well in advance of cooking the pasta. I can't imagine how anybody
>> > could do that. Also putting sauce on pasta laying on a plate also
>> > makes
>> > for real cognitive dissonance: I never had to be told these two.
>> >
>> > Please tell me no one locally has been championing these methods...
>>
>> I ain't a tellin' ya nuffin' <g> BUT did you go to the bit about cooking
>> a
>> burger???? What was that dark stuff he stuffed it with???
>>
>> The way this guy showed it, I am tempted to make one but what was that he
>> stuffed it with???
>
> I don't do stuffed burgers, that's where the med-rare part of the meat
> should be.

I just wanted to know what he said it was because I didn't understand him.

btw I wanted to ask, do you peel your zucchini? I always do but wanted to
ask.


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On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:32:33 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

> btw I wanted to ask, do you peel your zucchini? I always do but wanted to
> ask.

Never! Maybe I would if I bought gigantic zucchini, but I have never
seen them in grocery stores - or even the farmer's market. Sometimes
zucchini was bitter, back when my grandfather had a garden in Michigan
- so if I grew them at home and I my zucchini was bitter, I'd peel
them. But the truth is that I've never tasted bitter zucchini since I
moved to California.


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On 2/26/2014 5:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:36:14 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>
> btw I wanted to ask, do you peel your zucchini? I always do but wanted
> to ask.
>
I never peel zucchini. The skin is so thin there's no need.

Jill

On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:10:00 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
>
> I don't do stuffed burgers, that's where the med-rare part of the meat
>
> should be.
>
Exactly.

--B

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 07:47:54 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:10:00 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
>>
>> I don't do stuffed burgers, that's where the med-rare part of the meat
>>
>> should be.
>>
>Exactly.
>
>--B

Don't tell me how to eat MY FOOD, and I'll not try and force you into
MY CHURCH!!

Deal?

John Kuthe...

On 2014-02-25 22:36:14 +0000, Ophelia said:

> "gtr" > wrote in message news:2014022514175435448-xxx@yyyzzz...
>> On 2014-02-25 15:29:01 +0000, sf said:
>>
>>> How to combine pasta with sauce... and you know which numbskull this
>>> is posted for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBpbWhfsBxw
>>
>> What the ****--I learned something!
>>
>> I was delighted to find I didn't do any of the obviously "wrong"
>> things. But I hadn't previously, 1) Add some pasta water to the dish as
>> a matter of course, though recently I've started doing it for some
>> other reasons. And 2) The idea of adding butter/oil/cheese thing at the
>> end. That I've never heard of. I do add garni at the end, but don't
>> mix it in over heat.
>>
>> Some of the first few "wrong's" seem inconceivable: Putting the cooked
>> pasta on a plate and then starting the sauce! What the hell. I start
>> the sauce well in advance of cooking the pasta. I can't imagine how
>> anybody could do that. Also putting sauce on pasta laying on a plate
>> also makes for real cognitive dissonance: I never had to be told these
>> two.
>>
>> Please tell me no one locally has been championing these methods...
>
> I ain't a tellin' ya nuffin' <g> BUT did you go to the bit about
> cooking a burger???? What was that dark stuff he stuffed it with???
>
> The way this guy showed it, I am tempted to make one but what was that
> he stuffed it with???

No I just watched video related to the link above.

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2014022517224833041-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2014-02-25 22:36:14 +0000, Ophelia said:
>
>> "gtr" > wrote in message
>> news:2014022514175435448-xxx@yyyzzz...
>>> On 2014-02-25 15:29:01 +0000, sf said:
>>>
>>>> How to combine pasta with sauce... and you know which numbskull this
>>>> is posted for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBpbWhfsBxw
>>>
>>> What the ****--I learned something!
>>>
>>> I was delighted to find I didn't do any of the obviously "wrong" things.
>>> But I hadn't previously, 1) Add some pasta water to the dish as a matter
>>> of course, though recently I've started doing it for some other reasons.
>>> And 2) The idea of adding butter/oil/cheese thing at the end. That I've
>>> never heard of. I do add garni at the end, but don't mix it in over
>>> heat.
>>>
>>> Some of the first few "wrong's" seem inconceivable: Putting the cooked
>>> pasta on a plate and then starting the sauce! What the hell. I start
>>> the sauce well in advance of cooking the pasta. I can't imagine how
>>> anybody could do that. Also putting sauce on pasta laying on a plate
>>> also makes for real cognitive dissonance: I never had to be told these
>>> two.
>>>
>>> Please tell me no one locally has been championing these methods...
>>
>> I ain't a tellin' ya nuffin' <g> BUT did you go to the bit about cooking
>> a burger???? What was that dark stuff he stuffed it with???
>>
>> The way this guy showed it, I am tempted to make one but what was that he
>> stuffed it with???
>
> No I just watched video related to the link above.

Ooops After I watched that one, I went to look at some others, one being
the 'hamburger' vid

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On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:17:54 -0800, gtr > wrote:

> Also putting sauce on pasta laying on a plate
> also makes for real cognitive dissonance: I never had to be told these
> two.
>
> Please tell me no one locally has been championing these methods...

Obviously you have him killed and didn't read the post where he was
quoted berating me for mixing the two together because HE layers them
on the plate... in the early '50's haus frau style that was invented
expressly for food photography purposes. No, it's not Bryan.


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On 2/25/2014 5:17 PM, gtr wrote:
> On 2014-02-25 15:29:01 +0000, sf said:
>
>> How to combine pasta with sauce... and you know which numbskull this
>> is posted for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBpbWhfsBxw
>
> What the ****--I learned something!

> Some of the first few "wrong's" seem inconceivable: Putting the cooked
> pasta on a plate and then starting the sauce! What the hell.

I've never heard of nor seen anyone do that.

nancy

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:42:22 AM UTC-6, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 2/25/2014 5:17 PM, gtr wrote:
>
> > On 2014-02-25 15:29:01 +0000, sf said:
>
> >
>
> >> How to combine pasta with sauce... and you know which numbskull this
>
> >> is posted for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBpbWhfsBxw
>
> >
>
> > What the ****--I learned something!
>
>
>
> > Some of the first few "wrong's" seem inconceivable: Putting the cooked
>
> > pasta on a plate and then starting the sauce! What the hell.
>
>
>
> I've never heard of nor seen anyone do that.
>
It'd be funny if someone made YouTube videos showcasing bad techniques
of food preparation, but presenting them as the right way to do things.
>
> nancy

--B

On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:52:51 -0600, barbie gee >
wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2014, sf wrote:
>
> >
> > How to combine pasta with sauce... and you know which numbskull this
> > is posted for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBpbWhfsBxw
>
> Maybe we need to start them off with Boiling Water:
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BSbfJMtDt4>

I think Sheldumb already knows how to boil water... but maybe not.


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On 2014-02-25 15:52:51 +0000, barbie gee said:

> On Tue, 25 Feb 2014, sf wrote:
>
>>
>> How to combine pasta with sauce... and you know which numbskull this
>> is posted for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBpbWhfsBxw
>
> Maybe we need to start them off with Boiling Water:
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BSbfJMtDt4>

First: I HAD that faucet until replaced last week. It totally sucked.

Second: I have heard many times in life that cold water boils faster
than warm water. I don't know where I heard it first, but from the
time I was in my teens and beginning to do some cooking I thought about
it, rejected it and moved on with my life.

35 years later I heard Gordo tell a lackey in Hell's Kitchen to restart
a dish that demanded boiling water, likely pasta. Someone noted the
lackey pulling cold water and Gordo asked why. They proffered the
age-old snipe-hunting mythology: Cold water boils faster and his
incredulity knew only the limits of his rage du jour.

I have no idea how that bullshit got started but was delighted to find
someone else had heard it. But was also saddened that they didn't use
elementary-school physics to override it.

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2014022514240221334-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2014-02-25 15:52:51 +0000, barbie gee said:
>
>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2014, sf wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> How to combine pasta with sauce... and you know which numbskull this
>>> is posted for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBpbWhfsBxw
>>
>> Maybe we need to start them off with Boiling Water:
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BSbfJMtDt4>
>
> First: I HAD that faucet until replaced last week. It totally sucked.
>
> Second: I have heard many times in life that cold water boils faster
> than warm water. I don't know where I heard it first, but from the
> time I was in my teens and beginning to do some cooking I thought about
> it, rejected it and moved on with my life.
>
> 35 years later I heard Gordo tell a lackey in Hell's Kitchen to restart
> a dish that demanded boiling water, likely pasta. Someone noted the
> lackey pulling cold water and Gordo asked why. They proffered the
> age-old snipe-hunting mythology: Cold water boils faster and his
> incredulity knew only the limits of his rage du jour.
>
> I have no idea how that bullshit got started but was delighted to find
> someone else had heard it. But was also saddened that they didn't use
> elementary-school physics to override it.

lol

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On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:24:02 -0800, gtr > wrote:

>
> 35 years later I heard Gordo tell a lackey in Hell's Kitchen to restart
> a dish that demanded boiling water, likely pasta. Someone noted the
> lackey pulling cold water and Gordo asked why. They proffered the
> age-old snipe-hunting mythology: Cold water boils faster and his
> incredulity knew only the limits of his rage du jour

Boiling faster would be some wanna be science nerd making things up.
I've heard something to do with heath concerns... probably coming from
the old lead pipe days. In any case I'm not in such a rush that I
care and start with cold water.


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On 2014-02-26 01:04:48 +0000, sf said:

> On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:24:02 -0800, gtr > wrote:
>
>>
>> 35 years later I heard Gordo tell a lackey in Hell's Kitchen to restart
>> a dish that demanded boiling water, likely pasta. Someone noted the
>> lackey pulling cold water and Gordo asked why. They proffered the
>> age-old snipe-hunting mythology: Cold water boils faster and his
>> incredulity knew only the limits of his rage du jour
>
> Boiling faster would be some wanna be science nerd making things up.
> I've heard something to do with heath concerns... probably coming from
> the old lead pipe days. In any case I'm not in such a rush that I
> care and start with cold water.

Or laying it a hot-water heater too long. That's an interesting
possibility. But nothing about speed-of-boiling.

sf wrote:
>
> Boiling faster would be some wanna be science nerd making things up.
> I've heard something to do with heath concerns... probably coming from
> the old lead pipe days. In any case I'm not in such a rush that I
> care and start with cold water.

You should always cook and drink using cold water. Drain your water
heater someday and you'll see why. I watched a plumber do that once
and watched all the brown slime come out.

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> sf wrote:
>>
>> Boiling faster would be some wanna be science nerd making things up.
>> I've heard something to do with heath concerns... probably coming from
>> the old lead pipe days. In any case I'm not in such a rush that I
>> care and start with cold water.
>
> You should always cook and drink using cold water. Drain your water
> heater someday and you'll see why. I watched a plumber do that once
> and watched all the brown slime come out.
>

but the hot water comes out the top. the crud settles to the bottom. It
doesn't get stirred up, or the plumber would have nothing to drain out.

On 2014-03-01 00:18:56 +0000, Reggie said:

> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>> Boiling faster would be some wanna be science nerd making things up.
>>> I've heard something to do with heath concerns... probably coming from
>>> the old lead pipe days. In any case I'm not in such a rush that I
>>> care and start with cold water.
>>
>> You should always cook and drink using cold water. Drain your water
>> heater someday and you'll see why. I watched a plumber do that once
>> and watched all the brown slime come out.
>>
>
> but the hot water comes out the top. the crud settles to the bottom.
> It doesn't get stirred up, or the plumber would have nothing to drain
> out.

Why did he drain it? He took out all the FLAVOR!

On Friday, February 28, 2014 6:18:56 PM UTC-6, Reggie wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>
> > sf wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> Boiling faster would be some wanna be science nerd making things up.
>
> >> I've heard something to do with heath concerns... probably coming from
>
> >> the old lead pipe days. In any case I'm not in such a rush that I
>
> >> care and start with cold water.
>
> >
>
> > You should always cook and drink using cold water. Drain your water
>
> > heater someday and you'll see why. I watched a plumber do that once
>
> > and watched all the brown slime come out.
>
> >
>
>
>
> but the hot water comes out the top. the crud settles to the bottom. It
>
> doesn't get stirred up, or the plumber would have nothing to drain out.

My friend Gary is correct on this, though quite flawed in his political
thinking, and my friend Barbara is exactly the opposite. Thank you,
Reggie, for reminding me that I should turn off my water heater, shut off
the water to it, drain it, then turn the water back on before re-enabling
the flame.

--B

sf > wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:24:02 -0800, gtr > wrote:
>
>>
>> 35 years later I heard Gordo tell a lackey in Hell's Kitchen to restart
>> a dish that demanded boiling water, likely pasta. Someone noted the
>> lackey pulling cold water and Gordo asked why. They proffered the
>> age-old snipe-hunting mythology: Cold water boils faster and his
>> incredulity knew only the limits of his rage du jour
>
> Boiling faster would be some wanna be science nerd making things up.
> I've heard something to do with heath concerns... probably coming from
> the old lead pipe days. In any case I'm not in such a rush that I
> care and start with cold water.
>

Water from the water heater tastes funny. I do not consider it to be
potable.

On Saturday, March 1, 2014 2:45:34 AM UTC-6, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
> sf > wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:24:02 -0800, gtr > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >> 35 years later I heard Gordo tell a lackey in Hell's Kitchen to restart
>
> >> a dish that demanded boiling water, likely pasta. Someone noted the
>
> >> lackey pulling cold water and Gordo asked why. They proffered the
>
> >> age-old snipe-hunting mythology: Cold water boils faster and his
>
> >> incredulity knew only the limits of his rage du jour
>
> >
>
> > Boiling faster would be some wanna be science nerd making things up.
>
> > I've heard something to do with heath concerns... probably coming from
>
> > the old lead pipe days. In any case I'm not in such a rush that I
>
> > care and start with cold water.
>
It was about lead pipes, but in most regions the insides of pipes develop
an inner coating of calcium carbonate that eliminates any real chance of
lead leaching into the water.
>
> Water from the water heater tastes funny. I do not consider it to be
>
> potable.

It has less dissolved gasses, but water boiled on the stove is no different from water from the hot water heater. If you think it does, you're imagining
things.

--B