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"Cheri" > wrote in message
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> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
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>> Tuesday night I broke my patella. It is cracked all the way through but
>> no sharp pieces. If I do not bend my knee for 4 weeks, I am told that it
>> will heal. If I bend my knee, the pieces of the patella (kneecap) will
>> move and I'll need surgery with screws and pins.
>>
>> Did I mention it hurts --- a lot.
>>
>> I have a walker and a wheel chair and a huge gizmo strapped on with
>> velcro that is supposed to stabilize my leg and not let me bend my knee.
>>
>> I can stand at the counter for brief periods of time, but I can't
>> transport anything as I need both hands for the walker. Can't stand too
>> long on the left leg as I have peripheral neuropathy in both feet and
>> hands from the chemo last fall. (Yes, I know I'm a mess, but I'm a live
>> one, thank goodness :-))
>>
>> The wheel chair prevents me from getting close to the counter or stove
>> and I can't get in to the fridge, but I can, with a bunch of maneuvers,
>> get into the pantry.
>>
>> Tonight I had DH get me an onion and washed red and green bell peppers. I
>> was able to cut them up while sitting at the kitchen table, put them on
>> the counter in a bowl and slide them along to the stove while I was on
>> the walker. DH did Italian sausage on the gas grill while I sauteed the
>> peppers and onions.
>>
>> We had just bought some Mexican bolillos so, got into the wheel chair and
>> transported them to the toaster oven where I toasted them for about a
>> minute. I then took out some of the extra fluffy insides of the bread to
>> make more room for sausages and peppers and less carbs.
>>
>> When the sausages were done, I made my way to the counter on the walker
>> and got the sausage into the buns with the peppers and onions that had
>> some jarred tomato sauce added. It was good, but I was too tired to
>> enjoy it.
>>
>> Switching between walker and wheel chair and standing on one foot are
>> exhausting.
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience with being a one-legged cook? There has
>> to be a better way of getting stuff out of the fridge and prepping it.
>>
>> I have 4 weeks to not bend my knee. I am permitted to put a little bit
>> of pressure on the leg. DH is a terrible cook and we will both be better
>> off if I can do some cooking without exhausting myself.
>>
>> They are giving me physical therapy next week to help me learn to use the
>> walker better.

>
> Geez Janet, if you didn't have bad luck you would have no luck as they
> say. I hope you can manage the pain and that you heal well. I imagine that
> after you are a bit used to the walker etc., you'll be able to figure out
> some shortcuts. I personally don't have experience with it, but I believe
> you need one of those walkers that have a large tray in front.


The ones I see here are on wheels and have a seat in front too, which lifts
up to provide space for shopping or whatever you want to carry around. I
sometimes see people with them in the supermarket. I hope you get something
you can use easily and hope you will get well soon. My goodness you really
have had a dreadful year

Here is something similar which might give you some independence.

http://www.essentialaids.com/mobilit...-rollator.html

http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/mobility-walker-with-seat

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> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
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>> Tuesday night I broke my patella. It is cracked all the way through but
>> no sharp pieces. If I do not bend my knee for 4 weeks, I am told that it
>> will heal. If I bend my knee, the pieces of the patella (kneecap) will
>> move and I'll need surgery with screws and pins.
>>
>> Did I mention it hurts --- a lot.

>
>
> I am on my way! I figure me and some of the others can take shifts and
> help
> you through this. Mummy Chunk will be there to provide obviously stolen
> recipes claimed to be his own. Julie is on her way to watch and tell us
> how
> nothing we are preparing can possibly suit you for any one of a number of
> imagined reasons. Jill has PM'd me stating she is bringing some take out
> from the club, and ill assist by telling us how we are making mistakes
> and, if we were to provide you with a written
> menu, make all sorts of spelling and grammatical errors. So, you won't
> get
> a nice written menu to make you feel like you are being treated like a
> queen. Polly said she was interested in joining us, if for no other reason
> to hit the bottle of sherry she is sure you have stashed away in your
> kitchen. Sqwertz is on the bus already so he can be there to photograph
> and
> post the various dishes we create. Ophelia will be there to make sure we
> pay attention to and heed Julie's comments, so you won't get anything to
> eat
> out of us.
>
> How about the rest of you?


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On 3/15/2014 6:54 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> Tuesday night I broke my patella. It is cracked all the way through but
> no sharp pieces. If I do not bend my knee for 4 weeks, I am told that
> it will heal. If I bend my knee, the pieces of the patella (kneecap)
> will move and I'll need surgery with screws and pins.
>
> Did I mention it hurts --- a lot.



Man... you got dealt a bad hand. Many years ago I was in an accident
requiring pins, wires and staples to be inserted in my knee. I was in a
solid cast from toes to groin for 6 weeks so I have a good idea of what
you are going through and you have my sympathies.

Some hints I can offer you...

1)My Doctor told me that every minute you put strain, weight or stress
on your knee now will add 2 minutes to your healing time. You already
know how it hurts and the PT that comes later is no picnic. PLEASE...
do yourself a favor and stay off it.

2) Replace some of your cook books with take-out menus. Apply this
prescription liberally.

3) Depend on your husband. You say he isn't a good cook but he already
knows how to grill. While he was doing the sausages, he could have
thrown on some peppers and onions. Grilled hamburgers and onions.
Grilled smoked sausage or kielbasi. Can he do ribs, pork chops,
steaks... I'm betting he can and having met him, I'm betting he is
willing to try his best to help you. He may not know how to cook a lot
of things, but start with the things he does know... and expand from
there. And he can certainly do the dishes and clean up... no training
needed for that.... and again, I am betting that he is more than happy
to help.

4) Revisit the prepared foods at HEB. Rotisserie chicken... friend
chicken. Salads. They usually have some sides. Nope... it isn't home
cooking but it will keep you fed and that will help you heal. The deli
is your friend. Cold cuts and fresh rolls will make some easy meals.

5) Depend on the kindness of friends and neighbors. If you are a member
of a church, local support group, etc... try getting someone to set up a
meal train: http://www.mealtrain.com/ We did this a lot when we lived
in Shreveport (through our church). It is a wonderful way to get help...
and to give it. You know that if Becca and I lived closer, we would be
helping all we could.

When I was a child, my grandmother couldn't walk much because of
diabetes. After school, she would sit in the kitchen and she and I would
cook dinner. She sat and did things at the table that she could do, I
helped with the prep work and handled the stove and oven and clean-up.
Not only did I lean how to cook at a very early age, those times I spent
with Grandma are some of my best childhood memories.

Good luck, Janet.... and please, KEEP OFF THAT KNEE... at least, for now!

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On 3/16/2014 12:19 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 3/15/2014 9:05 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 3/15/2014 8:41 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>>> The only thing I can think of is maybe get one of those hot plates so
>>> that you could do some cooking at the table?
>>>

>> An induction unit would be safer, for tabletop use - and reasonably
>> priced with a BB&B coupon. The one I bought even came with a
>> surprisingly nice non-stick pan.
>>

>
> I'd love an induction unit, but they work on magnets and DH has a
> pacemaker and was told to stay away from magnets. I'll have to Google
> that.
>

A family member has a pacemaker+defibrillator, and regularly uses an
induction hob with no ill effects - modern ones are much safer than the
old units were. Of course, it would be a good idea to check with his
pacemaker specialist!
A magnet has to be fairly close to the pacemaker to affect it - in fact,
magnets are used during pacemaker checks.
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In article >,
says...
>
> On 3/15/2014 10:15 PM, gtr wrote:

I know: It's a screw-job, but there are likely places
> > in your area that cook *real meals* and deliver them. Additionally,
> > perhaps a better option: You know those diet advertisements that send
> > you a month of food? Do it!
> >
> >
http://www.nutrisystem.com
> >
> > There may be others. You'll lose some weight,

> (snippage)
>
> Why are you assuming she needs to lose weight?! Or that losing weight
> would be a good thing for a recovering cancer patient?


He was trying to be encouraging :-) If she's already thin and doesn't
want to lose more she can sit back and gorge on cake and icecream and
roast chicken with the skin while doing whatever sedentary things she
most enjoys; watching whole sets of DVDs, reading, craft work, and
posting to usenet of course.

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>>
>>The ones I see here are on wheels and have a seat in front too, which
>>lifts
>>up to provide space for shopping or whatever you want to carry around. I
>>sometimes see people with them in the supermarket. I hope you get
>>something
>>you can use easily and hope you will get well soon. My goodness you
>>really
>>have had a dreadful year
>>
>>Here is something similar which might give you some independence.
>>
>>http://www.essentialaids.com/mobilit...-rollator.html
>>
>>http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/mobility-walker-with-seat

>
> Those are usually very cumbersome around the house - if you have the
> space they are great. My rooms are large but even so couldn't
> accommodate those.


Ok I've never used one. When I had big problems with a knee replacement (It
got badly infected) I was either in a wheelchair or on crutches. I don't
remember what we ate much because I was on heavy meds. I could get around
the house on my crutches though. I must ask DH what we ate and if I cooked.
Remember though, I didn't have the underlying problems that Janet has which
might make a considerable difference.




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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 06:27:44 -0500, George Leppla
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> 4) Revisit the prepared foods at HEB. Rotisserie chicken... friend
> chicken. Salads. They usually have some sides. Nope... it isn't home
> cooking but it will keep you fed and that will help you heal. The deli
> is your friend. Cold cuts and fresh rolls will make some easy meals.


Trader Joe's is good for things like that too. I don't buy a lot of
prepared items, but I'm in love with one of their salads... even the
dressing is delicious. I extend it with some of their fancy salad
greens and make 4 servings (2 side salads for two different meals).
<http://eatingatjoes.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/trader-joes-roasted-butternut-squash-red-quinoa-and-wheat-berry-salad.png>



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On 3/16/2014 2:29 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 23:26:24 -0500, Janet Wilder >
> wrote:
>
> snip
>>
>> I do have a cleaning lady who comes every other week and she could
>> probably give e extra time, but what I really need is kitchen help and
>> help with a shower.

>
> snip
>
> Janet, don't screw this up with your knee. Do what you have to do. We
> are just not in good structural shape when recovering from cancer.
> That's when I fell and permanently wrecked my shoulder. Our muscles
> and bones are not what they should be and it doesn't take much to make
> a mess of it. Do whatever you have to in order to keep that leg
> straight, o.k.? P.s., your husband can help shower you, mine did. You
> shouldn't be alone around a bath or shower anyway, in case you lose
> your balance. All the best
> Janet US
>

For the shower, I recommend a hand-held shower nozzle and a shower
chair. Although the chair might be awkward given your leg is in a
brace. Beats falling!

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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 08:07:14 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 3/16/2014 12:19 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> > On 3/15/2014 9:05 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> >> On 3/15/2014 8:41 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> >>
> >>> The only thing I can think of is maybe get one of those hot plates so
> >>> that you could do some cooking at the table?
> >>>
> >> An induction unit would be safer, for tabletop use - and reasonably
> >> priced with a BB&B coupon. The one I bought even came with a
> >> surprisingly nice non-stick pan.
> >>

> >
> > I'd love an induction unit, but they work on magnets and DH has a
> > pacemaker and was told to stay away from magnets. I'll have to Google
> > that.
> >

> A family member has a pacemaker+defibrillator, and regularly uses an
> induction hob with no ill effects - modern ones are much safer than the
> old units were. Of course, it would be a good idea to check with his
> pacemaker specialist!
> A magnet has to be fairly close to the pacemaker to affect it - in fact,
> magnets are used during pacemaker checks.


An induction burner always seems like a good idea and then I start
reading reviews. I was looking on Amazon at decidedly mixed reviews
about the DUXTOP 1800-Watt Portable Induction Cooktop Countertop
Burner. The Aroma AID-509 Induction Cooktop (1500-watt) seemed to
have better reviews, but one reviewer said it was as noisy as an
exhaust fan... no thanks to more kitchen noise!


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"Winter's Lackey" > wrote in
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> Janet;1917617 Wrote:
>> In article ,
>> says...
>> -
>> The wheel chair prevents me from getting close to the counter or stove
>>
>> and I can't get in to the fridge, but I can, with a bunch of maneuvers,
>>
>> get into the pantry.-
>>
>> While in the wheelchair you might be able to use one of those
>> adjustable-height trolley tables on wheels that fit over a bed, or up to
>>
>> an armchair or wheelchair. Here they can be borrowed from the Red
>> Cross.
>> -
>> Tonight I had DH get me an onion and washed red and green bell peppers.
>>
>> I was able to cut them up while sitting at the kitchen table, put
>> them
>> on the counter in a bowl and slide them along to the stove while I was
>>
>> on the walker. DH did Italian sausage on the gas grill while I sauteed
>>
>> the peppers and onions.-
>>
>> Sit back and let DH do *everything* that requires standing.
>>
>> DH is a terrible cook and we will both be
>> better off if I can do some cooking without exhausting
>> myself.

>>
>> High time for him to try harder and learn to cook better so he can
>> give you the support your condition requires. Surely he can bake
>> potatoes, make a salad, cut up cheese or a cooked chicken, heat a can
>> of soup or a pizza.
>>
>> Janet UK

>
> I agree 100%. If you supervise, his cooking will be pretty much like
> your own. Situations like this are ones where a spouse can really
> demonstrate the depth of his or her love.
>[/i][/color]
My father was a pretty good "basic, plain food" cook but didn't bake. So
when Mum was ~90 and too frail, she would shout out the intructions (from
memory) and together they turned out some pretty good cakes and pastries.
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On 3/16/2014 9:57 AM, sf wrote:

> An induction burner always seems like a good idea and then I start
> reading reviews. I was looking on Amazon at decidedly mixed reviews
> about the DUXTOP 1800-Watt Portable Induction Cooktop Countertop
> Burner. The Aroma AID-509 Induction Cooktop (1500-watt) seemed to
> have better reviews, but one reviewer said it was as noisy as an
> exhaust fan... no thanks to more kitchen noise!
>

This is the one I have -
<http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/1/1/142794-precision-nuwave2-revolutionary-portable-induction-cooktop.html>

It only makes a tiny whirring noise.
The hot area in the centre is not as wide as I'd like, but for most
purposes it works very well. We bought it so we'd still be able to cook
while re-doing bits of the kitchen.

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On 3/16/2014 3:23 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 19:33:36 -0700, gtr > wrote:
>
>>> What a pointy-toothed asshole you are! I thought I was presenting a
>>> potentially helpful approach you flucking weasel!

>>
>> Perhaps I over-reacted to your assumptions about everything. Nope. I didn't.

>
> I think you did and you obviously have no idea what Janet looks
> like... take a deep breath and relax.
>
>

I apologize to gtr, but really, from what I can tell Nutrisystem isn't
cheap. IHMO it would be better to buy some frozen entrees than sign up
for something geared towards weight loss. Just my two cents.

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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 10:42:49 -0400, S Viemeister
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>On 3/16/2014 9:57 AM, sf wrote:
>
>> An induction burner always seems like a good idea and then I start
>> reading reviews. I was looking on Amazon at decidedly mixed reviews
>> about the DUXTOP 1800-Watt Portable Induction Cooktop Countertop
>> Burner. The Aroma AID-509 Induction Cooktop (1500-watt) seemed to
>> have better reviews, but one reviewer said it was as noisy as an
>> exhaust fan... no thanks to more kitchen noise!
>>

>This is the one I have -
><http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/1/1/142794-precision-nuwave2-revolutionary-portable-induction-cooktop.html>
>
>It only makes a tiny whirring noise.
>The hot area in the centre is not as wide as I'd like, but for most
>purposes it works very well. We bought it so we'd still be able to cook
>while re-doing bits of the kitchen.


I thought they got hot all over wherever the pan touched the surface?
Not so?
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>>

>For the shower, I recommend a hand-held shower nozzle and a shower
>chair. Although the chair might be awkward given your leg is in a
>brace. Beats falling!
>
>Jill

Spoil sport! That takes all the fun out of what is a bad situation.
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On 3/16/2014 11:06 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> > wrote:


>> <http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/1/1/142794-precision-nuwave2-revolutionary-portable-induction-cooktop.html>
>>
>> It only makes a tiny whirring noise.
>> The hot area in the centre is not as wide as I'd like, but for most
>> purposes it works very well. We bought it so we'd still be able to cook
>> while re-doing bits of the kitchen.

>
> I thought they got hot all over wherever the pan touched the surface?
> Not so?
>

The pan gets evenly hot wherever it comes in contact with the bit of the
unit which generates heat - which is a round area in the centre.
Different units will have slightly different diameters. If the pan is
wide, the centre will heat up first, very quickly, and rest of the
surface will heat by conduction. I have a nice Windsor pan (smaller
bottom, slopes out to the top) which fits the hot-spot perfectly, and a
semi-wok type which works well, as well as the little frying pan which
came with the hob. Oh, and my Fagor pressure cooker works on it, too.
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On 3/16/2014 7:27 AM, George Leppla wrote:
> On 3/15/2014 6:54 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>> Tuesday night I broke my patella. It is cracked all the way through but
>> no sharp pieces. If I do not bend my knee for 4 weeks, I am told that
>> it will heal. If I bend my knee, the pieces of the patella (kneecap)
>> will move and I'll need surgery with screws and pins.
>>
>> Did I mention it hurts --- a lot.

>
>
> Man... you got dealt a bad hand. Many years ago I was in an accident
> requiring pins, wires and staples to be inserted in my knee. I was in a
> solid cast from toes to groin for 6 weeks so I have a good idea of what
> you are going through and you have my sympathies.
>
> Some hints I can offer you...
>
> 1)My Doctor told me that every minute you put strain, weight or stress
> on your knee now will add 2 minutes to your healing time. You already
> know how it hurts and the PT that comes later is no picnic. PLEASE...
> do yourself a favor and stay off it.
>
> 2) Replace some of your cook books with take-out menus. Apply this
> prescription liberally.
>
> 3) Depend on your husband. You say he isn't a good cook but he already
> knows how to grill. While he was doing the sausages, he could have
> thrown on some peppers and onions. Grilled hamburgers and onions.
> Grilled smoked sausage or kielbasi. Can he do ribs, pork chops,
> steaks... I'm betting he can and having met him, I'm betting he is
> willing to try his best to help you. He may not know how to cook a lot
> of things, but start with the things he does know... and expand from
> there. And he can certainly do the dishes and clean up... no training
> needed for that.... and again, I am betting that he is more than happy
> to help.
>
> 4) Revisit the prepared foods at HEB. Rotisserie chicken... friend
> chicken. Salads. They usually have some sides. Nope... it isn't home
> cooking but it will keep you fed and that will help you heal. The deli
> is your friend. Cold cuts and fresh rolls will make some easy meals.
>
> 5) Depend on the kindness of friends and neighbors. If you are a member
> of a church, local support group, etc... try getting someone to set up a
> meal train: http://www.mealtrain.com/ We did this a lot when we lived
> in Shreveport (through our church). It is a wonderful way to get help...
> and to give it. You know that if Becca and I lived closer, we would be
> helping all we could.
>
> When I was a child, my grandmother couldn't walk much because of
> diabetes. After school, she would sit in the kitchen and she and I would
> cook dinner. She sat and did things at the table that she could do, I
> helped with the prep work and handled the stove and oven and clean-up.
> Not only did I lean how to cook at a very early age, those times I spent
> with Grandma are some of my best childhood memories.
>
> Good luck, Janet.... and please, KEEP OFF THAT KNEE... at least, for now!
>
> George L
>

Very sound advice, George! I didn't snip a thing in case I wind up
needing it for reference one of these days.

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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 11:31:27 -0400, S Viemeister
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>On 3/16/2014 11:06 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> > wrote:

>
>>> <http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/1/1/142794-precision-nuwave2-revolutionary-portable-induction-cooktop.html>
>>>
>>> It only makes a tiny whirring noise.
>>> The hot area in the centre is not as wide as I'd like, but for most
>>> purposes it works very well. We bought it so we'd still be able to cook
>>> while re-doing bits of the kitchen.

>>
>> I thought they got hot all over wherever the pan touched the surface?
>> Not so?
>>

>The pan gets evenly hot wherever it comes in contact with the bit of the
>unit which generates heat - which is a round area in the centre.
>Different units will have slightly different diameters. If the pan is
>wide, the centre will heat up first, very quickly, and rest of the
>surface will heat by conduction. I have a nice Windsor pan (smaller
>bottom, slopes out to the top) which fits the hot-spot perfectly, and a
>semi-wok type which works well, as well as the little frying pan which
>came with the hob. Oh, and my Fagor pressure cooker works on it, too.


thanks, I didn't know that.
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 13:24:48 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article om>,
says...
>>
>> On 3/15/2014 10:10 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> > Janet wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hopping around is just not worth the risk of either falling,
>> >> or breaking your patella worse.
>> >
>> > That's for sure! One slip, and everything
>> > could suddenly become much, much worse.
>> > Regretting it later will be too late,
>> > because once it happens you can't undo it.
>> >
>> > Isn't domestic help rather cheap in Texas?
>> > Now might be the time to check that out.
>> > A couple of weeks for a maid will be much
>> > cheaper than the consequences of aggravating
>> > the present condition.
>> >

>>
>> I do have a cleaning lady who comes every other week and she could
>> probably give e extra time, but what I really need is kitchen help

>
> Well if you have a rainy day fund, now is the time to use it to buy
>more help. Ask your cleaner if she knows someone who could come daily
>to shop, cook etc for a couple of months. She might jump at the chance
>herself.
>
> If you're skint, ask friends and relatives or neighbours to make up a
>help rota. Do you have any unemployed teen family?
>
> and
>> help with a shower.

>
> Surely your husband can help you have a shower? Get one of those
>waterproof leg-casings, made for the purpose.


Or use kitchen garbage bags. The ones with the ties should work. When
I broke my arm I used bread bags.

I wish you the best of luck on surviving without further damage.
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On 3/16/2014 11:06 AM, wrote:
> I don't agree - some can cook, some can't, that applies equally to men
> and women. My sons SO can't cook, none of us ever want her to be in
> charge of cooking anything for us!!


Anybody can learn how to cook. Some may not like to do it, but when it
is necessary, anyone can learn.

One of my friends never cooked a meal in his life. His Mom did all the
cooking... then his wife did all the cooking. That is the way it was...
he worked, she ran the house. Then his wife passed away, leaving him
with two teenagers to take care of.

All three of them had to learn to do things like vacuum (and change the
bag in the vacuum), laundry, sewing, balancing a checkbook, paying the
bills, shopping...... and cooking.

They ate a lot of take-out for a while, but his Mom gave him a crock pot
and started him with some simple recipes. Frying eggs and ham (or bacon)
was OK... and he graduated to doing grill cheese sandwiches... then
Reubens. Learned how to make a simple spaghetti sauce. Found an old
George Foreman Grill in the kitchen closet and started making all kinds
of grilled sandwiches on that, as well as as other things. He used his
gas grill a lot (that was a man's job). He and the kids learned to
either clean up or live dirty.. and they learned to cook or go hungry
(or go out).

He is a passable cook these days and both his kids are grown and have
families of their own and they do all right.

I really don't think that anyone is incapable of learning to cook but
some people dislike it enough that they never learn if they don't have to.

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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 10:42:49 -0400, S Viemeister
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>On 3/16/2014 9:57 AM, sf wrote:
>
>> An induction burner always seems like a good idea and then I start
>> reading reviews. I was looking on Amazon at decidedly mixed reviews
>> about the DUXTOP 1800-Watt Portable Induction Cooktop Countertop
>> Burner. The Aroma AID-509 Induction Cooktop (1500-watt) seemed to
>> have better reviews, but one reviewer said it was as noisy as an
>> exhaust fan... no thanks to more kitchen noise!
>>

>This is the one I have -
><http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/1/1/142794-precision-nuwave2-revolutionary-portable-induction-cooktop.html>
>
>It only makes a tiny whirring noise.
>The hot area in the centre is not as wide as I'd like, but for most
>purposes it works very well. We bought it so we'd still be able to cook
>while re-doing bits of the kitchen.


We bought one of those and liked it so much we upgraded to the Pro
version. Son got the regular. We use our frequently. You use
stainless steel, cast iron or LaCruset on it. Getting ready to do a
braised turkey breast on it this afternoon.
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On 3/16/2014 12:41 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I've been leg crippled at least 1/3th my cooking life. Trust me,
> Janet - you especially will be just fine. You'll be swing that leg
> around like a pro in no time, but don't even try it in your RV!
>
> -sw
>


We are going up to Houston in the RV at the end of the month. DH missed
all the NY Yankee games last year because I was sick. We had tickets to
4 games in Arlington and 3 in Houston and could not resell them.

Somehow I shall manage to get myself into the RV so that we can go, even
if I have to ride in the bed.

I cannot disappoint this good man again.

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On 3/16/2014 1:29 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 23:26:24 -0500, Janet Wilder >
> wrote:
>
> snip
>>
>> I do have a cleaning lady who comes every other week and she could
>> probably give e extra time, but what I really need is kitchen help and
>> help with a shower.

>
> snip
>
> Janet, don't screw this up with your knee. Do what you have to do. We
> are just not in good structural shape when recovering from cancer.
> That's when I fell and permanently wrecked my shoulder. Our muscles
> and bones are not what they should be and it doesn't take much to make
> a mess of it. Do whatever you have to in order to keep that leg
> straight, o.k.? P.s., your husband can help shower you, mine did. You
> shouldn't be alone around a bath or shower anyway, in case you lose
> your balance. All the best
> Janet US
>


Thanks, Janet. You are probably right about the cancer and chemo
weakening my bones.

We did an experiment in showering this morning and I am happy to report,
both of us survived.

Tonight we will experiment in putting a corned beef into the slow
cooker. I usually cook it overnight on low and put it in the fridge the
next morning. I save the cooking water in a container and put that in
the fridge, too.

Later in the day, I'll slice the cold corned beef, which slices much
better when cold. I'll strain the cooking water (defatted) into a pot
and cook cabbage and potato in the water.

I think DH can handle this if I direct.

I'll probably forgo the soda bread this year. We will also be missing
an annual ST. Patrick's Day party, but the logistics of getting there
and back are too hard.

We are going to the theater this afternoon. Wheel chair is coming
along. Meeting friends there and, hopefully, we can find a place for
dinner after the play.

You folks have been so helpful and supporting. Thanks you, from the
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On 3/16/2014 2:23 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 19:33:36 -0700, gtr > wrote:
>
>>> What a pointy-toothed asshole you are! I thought I was presenting a
>>> potentially helpful approach you flucking weasel!

>>
>> Perhaps I over-reacted to your assumptions about everything. Nope. I didn't.

>
> I think you did and you obviously have no idea what Janet looks
> like... take a deep breath and relax.
>
>

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On 3/16/2014 5:38 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>> b.com...
>>>
>>> Tuesday night I broke my patella. It is cracked all the way through but
>>> no sharp pieces. If I do not bend my knee for 4 weeks, I am told
>>> that it
>>> will heal. If I bend my knee, the pieces of the patella (kneecap) will
>>> move and I'll need surgery with screws and pins.
>>>
>>> Did I mention it hurts --- a lot.
>>>
>>> I have a walker and a wheel chair and a huge gizmo strapped on with
>>> velcro that is supposed to stabilize my leg and not let me bend my knee.
>>>
>>> I can stand at the counter for brief periods of time, but I can't
>>> transport anything as I need both hands for the walker. Can't stand too
>>> long on the left leg as I have peripheral neuropathy in both feet and
>>> hands from the chemo last fall. (Yes, I know I'm a mess, but I'm a live
>>> one, thank goodness :-))
>>>
>>> The wheel chair prevents me from getting close to the counter or stove
>>> and I can't get in to the fridge, but I can, with a bunch of maneuvers,
>>> get into the pantry.
>>>
>>> Tonight I had DH get me an onion and washed red and green bell
>>> peppers. I
>>> was able to cut them up while sitting at the kitchen table, put them on
>>> the counter in a bowl and slide them along to the stove while I was on
>>> the walker. DH did Italian sausage on the gas grill while I sauteed the
>>> peppers and onions.
>>>
>>> We had just bought some Mexican bolillos so, got into the wheel chair
>>> and
>>> transported them to the toaster oven where I toasted them for about a
>>> minute. I then took out some of the extra fluffy insides of the
>>> bread to
>>> make more room for sausages and peppers and less carbs.
>>>
>>> When the sausages were done, I made my way to the counter on the walker
>>> and got the sausage into the buns with the peppers and onions that had
>>> some jarred tomato sauce added. It was good, but I was too tired to
>>> enjoy it.
>>>
>>> Switching between walker and wheel chair and standing on one foot are
>>> exhausting.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any experience with being a one-legged cook? There has
>>> to be a better way of getting stuff out of the fridge and prepping it.
>>>
>>> I have 4 weeks to not bend my knee. I am permitted to put a little bit
>>> of pressure on the leg. DH is a terrible cook and we will both be
>>> better
>>> off if I can do some cooking without exhausting myself.
>>>
>>> They are giving me physical therapy next week to help me learn to use
>>> the
>>> walker better.

>>
>> Geez Janet, if you didn't have bad luck you would have no luck as they
>> say. I hope you can manage the pain and that you heal well. I imagine
>> that
>> after you are a bit used to the walker etc., you'll be able to figure out
>> some shortcuts. I personally don't have experience with it, but I believe
>> you need one of those walkers that have a large tray in front.

>
> The ones I see here are on wheels and have a seat in front too, which lifts
> up to provide space for shopping or whatever you want to carry around. I
> sometimes see people with them in the supermarket. I hope you get
> something
> you can use easily and hope you will get well soon. My goodness you really
> have had a dreadful year
>
> Here is something similar which might give you some independence.
>
> http://www.essentialaids.com/mobilit...-rollator.html
>
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/mobility-walker-with-seat
>

I have seen the ones with wheels. They are not good when hopping on one
foot. It would just roll away.

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On 3/16/2014 6:27 AM, George Leppla wrote:
> On 3/15/2014 6:54 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>> Tuesday night I broke my patella. It is cracked all the way through but
>> no sharp pieces. If I do not bend my knee for 4 weeks, I am told that
>> it will heal. If I bend my knee, the pieces of the patella (kneecap)
>> will move and I'll need surgery with screws and pins.
>>
>> Did I mention it hurts --- a lot.

>
>
> Man... you got dealt a bad hand. Many years ago I was in an accident
> requiring pins, wires and staples to be inserted in my knee. I was in a
> solid cast from toes to groin for 6 weeks so I have a good idea of what
> you are going through and you have my sympathies.
>
> Some hints I can offer you...
>
> 1)My Doctor told me that every minute you put strain, weight or stress
> on your knee now will add 2 minutes to your healing time. You already
> know how it hurts and the PT that comes later is no picnic. PLEASE...
> do yourself a favor and stay off it.
>
> 2) Replace some of your cook books with take-out menus. Apply this
> prescription liberally.
>
> 3) Depend on your husband. You say he isn't a good cook but he already
> knows how to grill. While he was doing the sausages, he could have
> thrown on some peppers and onions. Grilled hamburgers and onions.
> Grilled smoked sausage or kielbasi. Can he do ribs, pork chops,
> steaks... I'm betting he can and having met him, I'm betting he is
> willing to try his best to help you. He may not know how to cook a lot
> of things, but start with the things he does know... and expand from
> there. And he can certainly do the dishes and clean up... no training
> needed for that.... and again, I am betting that he is more than happy
> to help.
>
> 4) Revisit the prepared foods at HEB. Rotisserie chicken... friend
> chicken. Salads. They usually have some sides. Nope... it isn't home
> cooking but it will keep you fed and that will help you heal. The deli
> is your friend. Cold cuts and fresh rolls will make some easy meals.
>
> 5) Depend on the kindness of friends and neighbors. If you are a member
> of a church, local support group, etc... try getting someone to set up a
> meal train: http://www.mealtrain.com/ We did this a lot when we lived
> in Shreveport (through our church). It is a wonderful way to get help...
> and to give it. You know that if Becca and I lived closer, we would be
> helping all we could.
>
> When I was a child, my grandmother couldn't walk much because of
> diabetes. After school, she would sit in the kitchen and she and I would
> cook dinner. She sat and did things at the table that she could do, I
> helped with the prep work and handled the stove and oven and clean-up.
> Not only did I lean how to cook at a very early age, those times I spent
> with Grandma are some of my best childhood memories.
>
> Good luck, Janet.... and please, KEEP OFF THAT KNEE... at least, for now!
>
> George L
>

Thank you George.

We expect to see you and Becca in early April. I promise I'll be off
the knee.

It's encased in a giant brace that stabilizes and makes it impossible to
bend the knee. I do not put any pressure on it, though I am allowed to
put a little bit on it, like resting my foot on the floor of I am
standing with the walker at a counter.

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"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 3/16/2014 5:38 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>>> b.com...
>>>>
>>>> Tuesday night I broke my patella. It is cracked all the way through
>>>> but
>>>> no sharp pieces. If I do not bend my knee for 4 weeks, I am told
>>>> that it
>>>> will heal. If I bend my knee, the pieces of the patella (kneecap) will
>>>> move and I'll need surgery with screws and pins.
>>>>
>>>> Did I mention it hurts --- a lot.
>>>>
>>>> I have a walker and a wheel chair and a huge gizmo strapped on with
>>>> velcro that is supposed to stabilize my leg and not let me bend my
>>>> knee.
>>>>
>>>> I can stand at the counter for brief periods of time, but I can't
>>>> transport anything as I need both hands for the walker. Can't stand
>>>> too
>>>> long on the left leg as I have peripheral neuropathy in both feet and
>>>> hands from the chemo last fall. (Yes, I know I'm a mess, but I'm a live
>>>> one, thank goodness :-))
>>>>
>>>> The wheel chair prevents me from getting close to the counter or stove
>>>> and I can't get in to the fridge, but I can, with a bunch of maneuvers,
>>>> get into the pantry.
>>>>
>>>> Tonight I had DH get me an onion and washed red and green bell
>>>> peppers. I
>>>> was able to cut them up while sitting at the kitchen table, put them on
>>>> the counter in a bowl and slide them along to the stove while I was on
>>>> the walker. DH did Italian sausage on the gas grill while I sauteed the
>>>> peppers and onions.
>>>>
>>>> We had just bought some Mexican bolillos so, got into the wheel chair
>>>> and
>>>> transported them to the toaster oven where I toasted them for about a
>>>> minute. I then took out some of the extra fluffy insides of the
>>>> bread to
>>>> make more room for sausages and peppers and less carbs.
>>>>
>>>> When the sausages were done, I made my way to the counter on the walker
>>>> and got the sausage into the buns with the peppers and onions that had
>>>> some jarred tomato sauce added. It was good, but I was too tired to
>>>> enjoy it.
>>>>
>>>> Switching between walker and wheel chair and standing on one foot are
>>>> exhausting.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any experience with being a one-legged cook? There
>>>> has
>>>> to be a better way of getting stuff out of the fridge and prepping it.
>>>>
>>>> I have 4 weeks to not bend my knee. I am permitted to put a little bit
>>>> of pressure on the leg. DH is a terrible cook and we will both be
>>>> better
>>>> off if I can do some cooking without exhausting myself.
>>>>
>>>> They are giving me physical therapy next week to help me learn to use
>>>> the
>>>> walker better.
>>>
>>> Geez Janet, if you didn't have bad luck you would have no luck as they
>>> say. I hope you can manage the pain and that you heal well. I imagine
>>> that
>>> after you are a bit used to the walker etc., you'll be able to figure
>>> out
>>> some shortcuts. I personally don't have experience with it, but I
>>> believe
>>> you need one of those walkers that have a large tray in front.

>>
>> The ones I see here are on wheels and have a seat in front too, which
>> lifts
>> up to provide space for shopping or whatever you want to carry around. I
>> sometimes see people with them in the supermarket. I hope you get
>> something
>> you can use easily and hope you will get well soon. My goodness you
>> really
>> have had a dreadful year
>>
>> Here is something similar which might give you some independence.
>>
>> http://www.essentialaids.com/mobilit...-rollator.html
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/mobility-walker-with-seat
>>

> I have seen the ones with wheels. They are not good when hopping on one
> foot. It would just roll away.
>
> Thanks for your concern. It means a lot.


Aww you are most welcome. You have had an awful time for quite a while now
and I just hope things gets better after this.

Btw those walkers with wheels have a brake! They won't roll anywhere you
don't want them to.


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On 3/16/2014 7:07 AM, S Viemeister wrote:

> A family member has a pacemaker+defibrillator, and regularly uses an
> induction hob with no ill effects - modern ones are much safer than the
> old units were. Of course, it would be a good idea to check with his
> pacemaker specialist!
> A magnet has to be fairly close to the pacemaker to affect it - in fact,
> magnets are used during pacemaker checks.


I am going to have him call his cardio-electrician doctor. DH's
pacemaker is a difibrillating pacemaker as well.
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> The x-ray tech at the ortho doc's said she thought I was in my 50's as I
> don't look 67. That was the best part of Friday :-)



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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:21:43 -0500, Janet Wilder >
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>
> Tonight we will experiment in putting a corned beef into the slow
> cooker. I usually cook it overnight on low and put it in the fridge the
> next morning. I save the cooking water in a container and put that in
> the fridge, too.
>
> Later in the day, I'll slice the cold corned beef, which slices much
> better when cold. I'll strain the cooking water (defatted) into a pot
> and cook cabbage and potato in the water.


How big is your hunk of corned beef?


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On 3/16/2014 8:36 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 06:27:44 -0500, George Leppla
> > wrote:
>
>> 4) Revisit the prepared foods at HEB. Rotisserie chicken... friend
>> chicken. Salads. They usually have some sides. Nope... it isn't home
>> cooking but it will keep you fed and that will help you heal. The deli
>> is your friend. Cold cuts and fresh rolls will make some easy meals.

>
> Trader Joe's is good for things like that too. I don't buy a lot of
> prepared items, but I'm in love with one of their salads... even the
> dressing is delicious. I extend it with some of their fancy salad
> greens and make 4 servings (2 side salads for two different meals).
> <http://eatingatjoes.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/trader-joes-roasted-butternut-squash-red-quinoa-and-wheat-berry-salad.png>
>
>
>

We don't have Trader Joes. The last time we bought a prepared frozen
meal it was much more fat than I am used to and, well, it came back, if
you know what I mean.

OMG, I'm starting to sound like Julie! I really appreciate all the
helpful suggestions. I really, really do!!!

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On 3/16/2014 8:41 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/16/2014 2:29 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 23:26:24 -0500, Janet Wilder >
>> wrote:
>>
>> snip
>>>
>>> I do have a cleaning lady who comes every other week and she could
>>> probably give e extra time, but what I really need is kitchen help and
>>> help with a shower.

>>
>> snip
>>
>> Janet, don't screw this up with your knee. Do what you have to do. We
>> are just not in good structural shape when recovering from cancer.
>> That's when I fell and permanently wrecked my shoulder. Our muscles
>> and bones are not what they should be and it doesn't take much to make
>> a mess of it. Do whatever you have to in order to keep that leg
>> straight, o.k.? P.s., your husband can help shower you, mine did. You
>> shouldn't be alone around a bath or shower anyway, in case you lose
>> your balance. All the best
>> Janet US
>>

> For the shower, I recommend a hand-held shower nozzle and a shower
> chair. Although the chair might be awkward given your leg is in a
> brace. Beats falling!
>
> Jill


We used a step stool we have, though I think a shower chair will be more
comfortable. I got in the shower then took off the brace and kept my
leg extended. We do have a hand-held shower nozzle and that worked
fine. I feel better, and most assuredly, smell better today. :-)

I'll send him to Walgreens to fetch a regular shower stool tomorrow.

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On 3/16/2014 1:34 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 3/16/2014 8:36 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 06:27:44 -0500, George Leppla
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> 4) Revisit the prepared foods at HEB. Rotisserie chicken... friend
>>> chicken. Salads. They usually have some sides. Nope... it isn't home
>>> cooking but it will keep you fed and that will help you heal. The deli
>>> is your friend. Cold cuts and fresh rolls will make some easy meals.

>>
>> Trader Joe's is good for things like that too.
>>

(snippage)
> We don't have Trader Joes. The last time we bought a prepared frozen
> meal it was much more fat than I am used to and, well, it came back, if
> you know what I mean.
>

I know what you mean. And hey, no Trader Joes is what happens when you
live in the shopping boonies. I can relate.

> OMG, I'm starting to sound like Julie!


No, you aren't.

> I really appreciate all the
> helpful suggestions. I really, really do!!!
>

We know you do. We wish you well, Janet. You've had a rough time of
it. Just take care of yourself.

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On 3/16/2014 9:42 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 3/16/2014 9:57 AM, sf wrote:
>
>> An induction burner always seems like a good idea and then I start
>> reading reviews. I was looking on Amazon at decidedly mixed reviews
>> about the DUXTOP 1800-Watt Portable Induction Cooktop Countertop
>> Burner. The Aroma AID-509 Induction Cooktop (1500-watt) seemed to
>> have better reviews, but one reviewer said it was as noisy as an
>> exhaust fan... no thanks to more kitchen noise!
>>

> This is the one I have -
> <http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/1/1/142794-precision-nuwave2-revolutionary-portable-induction-cooktop.html>
>
>
> It only makes a tiny whirring noise.
> The hot area in the centre is not as wide as I'd like, but for most
> purposes it works very well. We bought it so we'd still be able to cook
> while re-doing bits of the kitchen.
>


I just looked at Medtronic's site. They make his pacemaker. It says he
has to be two feet away from an induction cook top. I think that's
quite doable.

The prep work seems to be a little harder to figure out, but I'm working
on it.

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On 3/16/2014 11:28 AM, George Leppla wrote:

> I really don't think that anyone is incapable of learning to cook but
> some people dislike it enough that they never learn if they don't have to.
>


I'm working with someone who doesn't know when sauteed onions and
peppers "look done".

This man admits marrying me for my cooking. What will happen if he
learns to cook as well as I do?

I'm up for the challenge of teaching him to cook. If I can just hold my
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> On 3/16/2014 6:27 AM, George Leppla wrote:
>> On 3/15/2014 6:54 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>> Tuesday night I broke my patella. It is cracked all the way through but
>>> no sharp pieces. If I do not bend my knee for 4 weeks, I am told that
>>> it will heal. If I bend my knee, the pieces of the patella (kneecap)
>>> will move and I'll need surgery with screws and pins.
>>>
>>> Did I mention it hurts --- a lot.

>>
>>
>> Man... you got dealt a bad hand. Many years ago I was in an accident
>> requiring pins, wires and staples to be inserted in my knee. I was in a
>> solid cast from toes to groin for 6 weeks so I have a good idea of what
>> you are going through and you have my sympathies.
>>
>> Some hints I can offer you...
>>
>> 1)My Doctor told me that every minute you put strain, weight or stress
>> on your knee now will add 2 minutes to your healing time. You already
>> know how it hurts and the PT that comes later is no picnic. PLEASE...
>> do yourself a favor and stay off it.
>>
>> 2) Replace some of your cook books with take-out menus. Apply this
>> prescription liberally.
>>
>> 3) Depend on your husband. You say he isn't a good cook but he already
>> knows how to grill. While he was doing the sausages, he could have
>> thrown on some peppers and onions. Grilled hamburgers and onions.
>> Grilled smoked sausage or kielbasi. Can he do ribs, pork chops,
>> steaks... I'm betting he can and having met him, I'm betting he is
>> willing to try his best to help you. He may not know how to cook a lot
>> of things, but start with the things he does know... and expand from
>> there. And he can certainly do the dishes and clean up... no training
>> needed for that.... and again, I am betting that he is more than happy
>> to help.
>>
>> 4) Revisit the prepared foods at HEB. Rotisserie chicken... friend
>> chicken. Salads. They usually have some sides. Nope... it isn't home
>> cooking but it will keep you fed and that will help you heal. The deli
>> is your friend. Cold cuts and fresh rolls will make some easy meals.
>>
>> 5) Depend on the kindness of friends and neighbors. If you are a member
>> of a church, local support group, etc... try getting someone to set up a
>> meal train: http://www.mealtrain.com/ We did this a lot when we lived
>> in Shreveport (through our church). It is a wonderful way to get help...
>> and to give it. You know that if Becca and I lived closer, we would be
>> helping all we could.
>>
>> When I was a child, my grandmother couldn't walk much because of
>> diabetes. After school, she would sit in the kitchen and she and I would
>> cook dinner. She sat and did things at the table that she could do, I
>> helped with the prep work and handled the stove and oven and clean-up.
>> Not only did I lean how to cook at a very early age, those times I spent
>> with Grandma are some of my best childhood memories.
>>
>> Good luck, Janet.... and please, KEEP OFF THAT KNEE... at least, for now!
>>
>> George L
>>

> Thank you George.
>
> We expect to see you and Becca in early April. I promise I'll be off the
> knee.
>
> It's encased in a giant brace that stabilizes and makes it impossible to
> bend the knee. I do not put any pressure on it, though I am allowed to
> put a little bit on it, like resting my foot on the floor of I am standing
> with the walker at a counter.


I can't help feeling you would have been safer with a plaster cast. With
that kind of support you might have been able to put little weight on it.


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> On 3/16/2014 11:28 AM, George Leppla wrote:
>
>> I really don't think that anyone is incapable of learning to cook but
>> some people dislike it enough that they never learn if they don't have
>> to.
>>

>
> I'm working with someone who doesn't know when sauteed onions and peppers
> "look done".
>
> This man admits marrying me for my cooking. What will happen if he learns
> to cook as well as I do?


I am sure he won't learn to cook as well as you anyway, and he will
appreciate you all the more


> I'm up for the challenge of teaching him to cook. If I can just hold my
> patience in check.


lol that might be hard but worthwhile!

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