Why does Sun Maid choose to pack raisins in cardboard rectangular
containers unlike other companies who use cylindrical ones? Especially
when the container is partially empty you have to be very careful when
picking it up one handed since the sides tend to collapse and down goes
the thing to the floor, usually spilling about half a cup of raisins.
Sweeping the floor is not something I want to do before having my
breakfast cereal with raisins.


--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

James Silverton wrote:
>
> Why does Sun Maid choose to pack raisins in cardboard rectangular
> containers unlike other companies who use cylindrical ones? Especially
> when the container is partially empty you have to be very careful when
> picking it up one handed since the sides tend to collapse and down goes
> the thing to the floor, usually spilling about half a cup of raisins.
> Sweeping the floor is not something I want to do before having my
> breakfast cereal with raisins.

LOL! I always buy Sun Maid raisins and in the rectangular boxes. I
have never spilled raisins, ever. And you usually spill about a half
a cup of them....all over the floor? LMAO, you retard!

As they stick together somewhat, I usually just reach inside the
package and take some out with my hand. I then have to separate the
ones stuck together. If you insist on a cylindrical package, just take
the inner plastic package out of the box. They still won't pour easily
though.

Sorry to pick on you but your problem/complaint is the funniest thing
I might have ever read here. If I didn't recognize your name, I would
have sworn this was just a dumb troll attempt.

You can now add me to your killfile for getting on your case.

G.

On 4/13/2014 9:01 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> Why does Sun Maid choose to pack raisins in cardboard rectangular
> containers unlike other companies who use cylindrical ones? Especially
> when the container is partially empty you have to be very careful when
> picking it up one handed since the sides tend to collapse and down goes
> the thing to the floor, usually spilling about half a cup of raisins.
> Sweeping the floor is not something I want to do before having my
> breakfast cereal with raisins.
>
>

Huh? Don't you re-seal the bag inside so they cannot spill?

I've been eating raisins for 6 decades and never spilled any a d don't
recall every having a box collapse. Now I buy them in a slide close
plastic bag from BJ's.

Sorry, I don't see the problem. Try the 24 oz. box
http://www.sunmaid.com/products-details/raisins.html

On 4/13/2014 10:04 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/13/2014 9:01 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>> Why does Sun Maid choose to pack raisins in cardboard rectangular
>> containers unlike other companies who use cylindrical ones? Especially
>> when the container is partially empty you have to be very careful when
>> picking it up one handed since the sides tend to collapse and down goes
>> the thing to the floor, usually spilling about half a cup of raisins.
>> Sweeping the floor is not something I want to do before having my
>> breakfast cereal with raisins.
>>
>>
>
> Huh? Don't you re-seal the bag inside so they cannot spill?
>
> I've been eating raisins for 6 decades and never spilled any a d don't
> recall every having a box collapse. Now I buy them in a slide close
> plastic bag from BJ's.
>
> Sorry, I don't see the problem. Try the 24 oz. box
> http://www.sunmaid.com/products-details/raisins.html
>
What plastic bag? I admire the superior wakefulness of those who never
spill raisins at breakfast :-) Raisins being raisins, I choose mine on
price.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:04:52 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/13/2014 9:01 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> > Why does Sun Maid choose to pack raisins in cardboard rectangular
> > containers unlike other companies who use cylindrical ones? Especially
> > when the container is partially empty you have to be very careful when
> > picking it up one handed since the sides tend to collapse and down goes
> > the thing to the floor, usually spilling about half a cup of raisins.
> > Sweeping the floor is not something I want to do before having my
> > breakfast cereal with raisins.
>
> Huh? Don't you re-seal the bag inside so they cannot spill?
>
> I've been eating raisins for 6 decades and never spilled any a d don't
> recall every having a box collapse. Now I buy them in a slide close
> plastic bag from BJ's.
>
> Sorry, I don't see the problem. Try the 24 oz. box
> http://www.sunmaid.com/products-details/raisins.html

I'm pretty sure Jim is ranting about *that very box*. It has a loose-fitting
lid (another minor rant) and wobbly sides like he says. And no internal bag.

--
Silvar Beitel

On 2014-04-13, James Silverton > wrote:
> Why does Sun Maid choose to pack raisins in cardboard rectangular
> containers unlike other companies who use cylindrical ones?

My guess would be storage and shipping.

I've been buying/eating Sun-Maid raisins for decades. I pull the bag
out of the box, unfasten the sticky tab holding the bag closed against
moisture loss, and dispense raisins. Ya' jes gotta be smarter than
the packaging. I've no doubt you could remove the bag from the box
and put it in a cylindrical container,y if you prefer.

nb

James Silverton wrote:

> Why does Sun Maid choose to pack raisins in cardboard rectangular
> containers unlike other companies who use cylindrical ones?
> Especially when the container is partially empty you have to be very
> careful when picking it up one handed since the sides tend to
> collapse and down goes the thing to the floor, usually spilling about
> half a cup of raisins. Sweeping the floor is not something I want to
> do before having my breakfast cereal with raisins.

maybe a rectangular carton enables more boxes to be packed in the
shipping container than a cylindrical container? Maybe inertia on the
part of the raisin company - "that's the the way we've always done it"?
Maybe cost to package (rectangular box) is cheaper than a cylindical
package? and so on

On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 09:01:35 -0400, James Silverton
> wrote:

> Why does Sun Maid choose to pack raisins in cardboard rectangular
> containers unlike other companies who use cylindrical ones? Especially
> when the container is partially empty you have to be very careful when
> picking it up one handed since the sides tend to collapse and down goes
> the thing to the floor, usually spilling about half a cup of raisins.
> Sweeping the floor is not something I want to do before having my
> breakfast cereal with raisins.

I think you're one of those people who need their cup of coffee in the
morning before trying anything complicated like picking up a package
of raisins!


--

Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> James Silverton wrote:
>>
>> Why does Sun Maid choose to pack raisins in cardboard rectangular
>> containers unlike other companies who use cylindrical ones? Especially
>> when the container is partially empty you have to be very careful when
>> picking it up one handed since the sides tend to collapse and down goes
>> the thing to the floor, usually spilling about half a cup of raisins.
>> Sweeping the floor is not something I want to do before having my
>> breakfast cereal with raisins.
>
> LOL! I always buy Sun Maid raisins and in the rectangular boxes. I
> have never spilled raisins, ever. And you usually spill about a half
> a cup of them....all over the floor? LMAO, you retard!
>
> As they stick together somewhat, I usually just reach inside the
> package and take some out with my hand. I then have to separate the
> ones stuck together. If you insist on a cylindrical package, just take
> the inner plastic package out of the box. They still won't pour easily
> though.
>
> Sorry to pick on you but your problem/complaint is the funniest thing
> I might have ever read here. If I didn't recognize your name, I would
> have sworn this was just a dumb troll attempt.
>
> You can now add me to your killfile for getting on your case.

I've never had that problem either!

On 4/13/2014 12:35 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> James Silverton wrote:
>>>
>>> Why does Sun Maid choose to pack raisins in cardboard rectangular
>>> containers unlike other companies who use cylindrical ones? Especially
>>> when the container is partially empty you have to be very careful when
>>> picking it up one handed since the sides tend to collapse and down goes
>>> the thing to the floor, usually spilling about half a cup of raisins.
>>> Sweeping the floor is not something I want to do before having my
>>> breakfast cereal with raisins.
>>
>> LOL! I always buy Sun Maid raisins and in the rectangular boxes. I
>> have never spilled raisins, ever. And you usually spill about a half
>> a cup of them....all over the floor? LMAO, you retard!
>>
>> As they stick together somewhat, I usually just reach inside the
>> package and take some out with my hand. I then have to separate the
>> ones stuck together. If you insist on a cylindrical package, just take
>> the inner plastic package out of the box. They still won't pour easily
>> though.
>>
>> Sorry to pick on you but your problem/complaint is the funniest thing
>> I might have ever read here. If I didn't recognize your name, I would
>> have sworn this was just a dumb troll attempt.
>>
>> You can now add me to your killfile for getting on your case.
>
> I've never had that problem either!

Well, I did think writing a rant might be amusing but it really happened
about half an hour before the post!

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On 2014-04-13 9:01 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> Why does Sun Maid choose to pack raisins in cardboard rectangular
> containers unlike other companies who use cylindrical ones? Especially
> when the container is partially empty you have to be very careful when
> picking it up one handed since the sides tend to collapse and down goes
> the thing to the floor, usually spilling about half a cup of raisins.
> Sweeping the floor is not something I want to do before having my
> breakfast cereal with raisins.
>
>

Do the smart thing. Switch to bananas ;-)

I always keep my raisins in a Tupperware container. I buy a new package
when I get low. I dump out the old ones, poor the new ones into the
Tupperware and then put the old raisins on top.

Why did they do it???? Maybe you should check the volume or weight of
the contents. It may be that the did it to downsize the packaging but
making it look the same size. Nabisco did that with their large boxes
of Shredded Wheat. They use packs of three and used to stack eight
layers in the large box for 24. They switched to packing them on their
sides, two thick and three high. The front of the box looks about the
same size but there is 25% less inside.

It is a lot easier to fool people with cylindrical containers because
most people are easily mislead into thinking that something containers
more if it is taller. With cylinders, volume increases much faster with
increased diameter than with height.

On 2014-04-13 12:53 PM, James Silverton wrote:

>>> Sorry to pick on you but your problem/complaint is the funniest thing
>>> I might have ever read here. If I didn't recognize your name, I would
>>> have sworn this was just a dumb troll attempt.
>>>
>>> You can now add me to your killfile for getting on your case.
>>
>> I've never had that problem either!
>
> Well, I did think writing a rant might be amusing but it really happened
> about half an hour before the post!
>


I came across a response before I saw your OP and when I spotted the
header I assumed that it was going to be someone ranting about how her
sometimes disabled sometimes a dancer daughter won't eat them.

On 4/13/2014 10:16 AM, wrote:

>>
>> Sorry, I don't see the problem. Try the 24 oz. box
>> http://www.sunmaid.com/products-details/raisins.html
>
> I'm pretty sure Jim is ranting about *that very box*. It has a loose-fitting
> lid (another minor rant) and wobbly sides like he says. And no internal bag.
>
OK, I've not bought that for years. The secret is to grab it at the
bottom and it will be stiffer.

Jim also mentions he buys on price. In that case, store brand is
probably a better value, but BJ/Costco would be better.

On 4/13/2014 1:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/13/2014 10:16 AM, wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Sorry, I don't see the problem. Try the 24 oz. box
>>> http://www.sunmaid.com/products-details/raisins.html
>>
>> I'm pretty sure Jim is ranting about *that very box*. It has a
>> loose-fitting
>> lid (another minor rant) and wobbly sides like he says. And no
>> internal bag.
>>
> OK, I've not bought that for years. The secret is to grab it at the
> bottom and it will be stiffer.
>
> Jim also mentions he buys on price. In that case, store brand is
> probably a better value, but BJ/Costco would be better.

Most often the store brand in the Giant stores is cheapest but the
Sun-Maid box was on sale and cost less. Actually Trader Joe's sells
raisins at a low price in plastic bags but the bags tend to spill once
opened. TJ's is not as convenient for me as the regular super markets
and it and I often forget to pick up raisins. When I remember I do put
the raisins into Giant cylinders.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On 2014-04-13, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
> Do the smart thing. Switch to bananas ;-)

LOL!!.....

Jes what I needed on this gray and rainy day, a good gut deep guffaw.
Thnx, Dave.

nb

I transfer the raisins to a Rubbermaid with a tight lid right off the bat. Likewise with dried dates, apricots, etc.

On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 10:15:07 -0400, James Silverton
> wrote:

>On 4/13/2014 10:04 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/13/2014 9:01 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>>> Why does Sun Maid choose to pack raisins in cardboard rectangular
>>> containers unlike other companies who use cylindrical ones? Especially
>>> when the container is partially empty you have to be very careful when
>>> picking it up one handed since the sides tend to collapse and down goes
>>> the thing to the floor, usually spilling about half a cup of raisins.
>>> Sweeping the floor is not something I want to do before having my
>>> breakfast cereal with raisins.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Huh? Don't you re-seal the bag inside so they cannot spill?
>>
>> I've been eating raisins for 6 decades and never spilled any a d don't
>> recall every having a box collapse. Now I buy them in a slide close
>> plastic bag from BJ's.
>>
>> Sorry, I don't see the problem. Try the 24 oz. box
>> http://www.sunmaid.com/products-details/raisins.html
>>
>What plastic bag? I admire the superior wakefulness of those who never
>spill raisins at breakfast :-) Raisins being raisins, I choose mine on
>price.

24 oz size nothing, you can buy Sunmaid raisins in the 30 pound size:
http://market.sunmaid.com/index.php?...roducts.search

On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 07:16:27 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

>On Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:04:52 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/13/2014 9:01 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>> > Why does Sun Maid choose to pack raisins in cardboard rectangular
>> > containers unlike other companies who use cylindrical ones? Especially
>> > when the container is partially empty you have to be very careful when
>> > picking it up one handed since the sides tend to collapse and down goes
>> > the thing to the floor, usually spilling about half a cup of raisins.
>> > Sweeping the floor is not something I want to do before having my
>> > breakfast cereal with raisins.
>>
>> Huh? Don't you re-seal the bag inside so they cannot spill?
>>
>> I've been eating raisins for 6 decades and never spilled any a d don't
>> recall every having a box collapse. Now I buy them in a slide close
>> plastic bag from BJ's.

I buy raisins in the slide close plastic bag too, prunes and craisins
too.

>> Sorry, I don't see the problem. Try the 24 oz. box
>> http://www.sunmaid.com/products-details/raisins.html
>
>I'm pretty sure Jim is ranting about *that very box*. It has a loose-fitting
>lid (another minor rant) and wobbly sides like he says. And no internal bag.

The the raisins in the 30 pound bulk box are in a heavy plastic bag
too, as are is the 5 pound bulk box.
http://market.sunmaid.com/index.php?...oduct_id=29832
http://market.sunmaid.com/index.php?...oduct_id=29838
Wonderful bulk fruits too:
http://market.sunmaid.com/index.php?...d=170 &page=2
Sunmaid Mission Figs are fabulous:
http://market.sunmaid.com/index.php?...oduct_id=29844
And check out the low prices on Sunmaid sale items:
https://market.sunmaid.com/index.php...d=190 &page=1

On 4/13/2014 2:20 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2014-04-13, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>
>> Do the smart thing. Switch to bananas ;-)
>
> LOL!!.....
>
> Jes what I needed on this gray and rainy day, a good gut deep guffaw.
> Thnx, Dave.
>
> nb
>
Enjoy the snow!

Jill

On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 22:04:36 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:

>
> On 13-Apr-2014, James Silverton > wrote:
>
> > Sweeping the floor is not something I want to do before having my
> > breakfast cereal with raisins.
> If it were my problem, I'd resolve it by opening the container and putting
> the raisins in a plastic sandwich or storage bag which could be placed back
> in the original container. At least then when you drop the container the
> raisins are still sealed in the plastic bag, not scattered on the floor.

I do that anyway, just to keep them from drying out.


--

Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

On 4/13/2014 3:01 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> Why does Sun Maid choose to pack raisins in cardboard rectangular
> containers unlike other companies who use cylindrical ones? Especially
> when the container is partially empty you have to be very careful when
> picking it up one handed since the sides tend to collapse and down goes
> the thing to the floor, usually spilling about half a cup of raisins.
> Sweeping the floor is not something I want to do before having my
> breakfast cereal with raisins.
>
>

Sorry to hear of your troubles. Hopefully, things will get better. We
are incapable of understanding God's plan for us but my guess is that
your problem is preparing your life for something bigger and that one
day, all this, will become perfectly clear - but only if we place our
faith in his hands. Take care.

On Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:01:35 AM UTC-7, James Silverton wrote:

> Why does Sun Maid choose to pack raisins in cardboard rectangular
> containers unlike other companies who use cylindrical ones?

Better packing density for rectangular boxes. But I have bought Sunmaid
raisins in vacuum sealed packs at Costco.

I will tell you my secret: I have saved a cylindrical container, and
simply refill it, usually with a plastic bag of raisins from Trader Joe's

On Sunday, April 13, 2014 5:28:24 PM UTC-7, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 22:04:36 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > If it were my problem, I'd resolve it by opening the container and putting
> > the raisins in a plastic sandwich or storage bag which could be placed back
> > in the original container. At least then when you drop the container the
> > raisins are still sealed in the plastic bag, not scattered on the floor.
>
> I do that anyway, just to keep them from drying out.
>

I know exactly what sf means, having just opened a new bag of relatively
plump raisins. But how can raisins "dry out" more than they already have?

On Monday, April 14, 2014 3:20:35 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>
> I know exactly what sf means, having just opened a new bag of relatively
> plump raisins. But how can raisins "dry out" more than they already have?

Very easily. There is still plenty of moisture left in
the raisins. Can't you tell?

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 4/14/2014 3:43 PM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Monday, April 14, 2014 3:20:35 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>>
>> I know exactly what sf means, having just opened a new bag of relatively
>> plump raisins. But how can raisins "dry out" more than they already have?
>
> Very easily. There is still plenty of moisture left in
> the raisins. Can't you tell?
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com
>
In some cases, personal preferences come into it. I kind of like dried
up raisins even if I also like fresh grapes. It's a bit different for
figs; I like dried figs but fresh ones leave me unimpressed.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

wrote:
>
> On Sunday, April 13, 2014 5:28:24 PM UTC-7, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 22:04:36 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > If it were my problem, I'd resolve it by opening the container and putting
> > > the raisins in a plastic sandwich or storage bag which could be placed back
> > > in the original container. At least then when you drop the container the
> > > raisins are still sealed in the plastic bag, not scattered on the floor.
> >
> > I do that anyway, just to keep them from drying out.
> >
>
> I know exactly what sf means, having just opened a new bag of relatively
> plump raisins. But how can raisins "dry out" more than they already have?

If you want to experience super dried raisons, just buy a box of
Raisin Bran cereal.

G.

On 2014-04-14 3:50 PM, James Silverton wrote:

>>
> In some cases, personal preferences come into it. I kind of like dried
> up raisins even if I also like fresh grapes. It's a bit different for
> figs; I like dried figs but fresh ones leave me unimpressed.
>

They taste about the same and they can be plumped up again with a short
soak in warm liquid. The texture of "fresh" raisins is a little nicer.

I can't speak about fresh figs. I have never had one and don't know what
to look for to buy them. I once made the mistake of buying and eating an
under ripe persimmon. I understand that they are a special Christmas
treat for Italians and learned the hard way that they have to be fully
ripened. When I bit into one it had a texture like cotton batting and
had an astringent taste, the sort of taste you might associate with a toxin.

On Monday, April 14, 2014 4:17:32 PM UTC-7, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> I can't speak about fresh figs. I have never had one and don't know what
> to look for to buy them.

My FIL tried growing one in Michigan. Apparently you can bend the trunk
down to the ground and insulate the crown, to prevent its dying in the
winter.

> I once made the mistake of buying and eating an
> under ripe persimmon. I understand that they are a special Christmas
> treat for Italians and learned the hard way that they have to be fully
> ripened. When I bit into one it had a texture like cotton batting and
> had an astringent taste, the sort of taste you might associate with a toxin.

There are two kinds of persimmons: the flat kind, and the round and pointy
kind. Both are sold firm. However, while the flat kind can be eaten firm,
as you found out the round/pointy one has to be dead ripe and soft.