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My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla beans
that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) for months while giving up much of their goodness for my homemade vanilla syrup. The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the food processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice cream, or rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the middle removed and the pod discarded. If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd really like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to theorize about it, too. ![]() Thanks in advance. -S- |
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![]() "Steve Freides" > wrote in message ... > My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla beans that > have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) for months while > giving up much of their goodness for my homemade vanilla syrup. > > The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the food > processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice cream, or rather > need to be opened up and the good stuff in the middle removed and the pod > discarded. > > If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd really like > to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to theorize about it, too. ![]() > > Thanks in advance. > > -S- The pods are very tough. I think you need to scrape the seeds out and use those. |
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On 2014-04-23 23:11:26 +0000, Steve Freides said:
> My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla beans > that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) for months > while giving up much of their goodness for my homemade vanilla syrup. > > The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the food > processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice cream, or > rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the middle removed > and the pod discarded. > > If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd really > like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to theorize about it, > too. ![]() > > Thanks in advance. > > -S- I have tasted the outside bean material (though not in ice cream, on its own) and it had a distinctly powerful vanilla flavor, somewhat more volatile than the insides if that makes sense. It certainly won't hurt you to eat the outside of the bean, which is just essentially cellulose along with some oils. Why don't you sample the outside of the bean yourself and see? |
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:11:26 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote: >My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla beans >that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) for months >while giving up much of their goodness for my homemade vanilla syrup. > >The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the food >processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice cream, or >rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the middle removed and >the pod discarded. My feeling is that the pods may still be a little chewy and not be sufficiently broken down enough. We made about 3 litres of vanilla essence about 3 years ago, I still have over a litre left. Well worth the effort as its every bit as good (if not better) than any vanilla essence I've bought. If you're really keen (and patient, like a few months patient), I'd use the pods to make an essence and then use that in your ice cream... then again, you could simply strain the pods out of your bourbon, as although the pods are whole, the bourbon should have plenty of vanilla flavour by now. >If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd really >like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to theorize about it, >too. ![]() I guess that's what I did above ![]() |
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On 2014-04-23 7:11 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
> My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla beans > that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) for months > while giving up much of their goodness for my homemade vanilla syrup. > > The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the food > processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice cream, or > rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the middle removed and > the pod discarded. > > If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd really > like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to theorize about it, > too. ![]() > I wouldn't pulverize them in a food processor. Slit them open and scrape out the seeds. |
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![]() "Steve Freides" > wrote in message ... > My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla beans that > have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) for months while > giving up much of their goodness for my homemade vanilla syrup. > > The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the food > processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice cream, or rather > need to be opened up and the good stuff in the middle removed and the pod > discarded. > > If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd really like > to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to theorize about it, too. ![]() > When I have made vanilla IC I scraped the mushy stuff into the mixture. It was good. |
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:11:26 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote: >My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla beans >that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) for months >while giving up much of their goodness for my homemade vanilla syrup. > >The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the food >processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice cream, or >rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the middle removed and >the pod discarded. > >If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd really >like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to theorize about it, >too. ![]() > >Thanks in advance. > >-S- > Seems to me they've already given up all their YUM. Or at least most. I'd say compost them. John Kuthe... |
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On 4/23/2014 7:11 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
> My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla beans > that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) for months > while giving up much of their goodness for my homemade vanilla syrup. > > The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the food > processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice cream, or > rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the middle removed and > the pod discarded. > > If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd really > like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to theorize about it, > too. ![]() > > Thanks in advance. > > -S- > > The pods are chewy. Scrape the seeds and add them to the mix. Compost or discard the pod |
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On 4/23/2014 6:11 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
> My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla beans > that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) for months > while giving up much of their goodness for my homemade vanilla syrup. > > The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the food > processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice cream, or > rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the middle removed and > the pod discarded. > > If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd really > like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to theorize about it, > too. ![]() Being thrifty, I've done it/do it with other foods besides ice cream - cookies, for instance. If the beans are pulverized fine enough, there's no problem with biting or chewing them. Some people freak out over the sight of dark flecks in their food, even when you've reassured them it's vanilla, but if this is for you and your wife, that won't be an issue. |
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Jeßus wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:11:26 -0400, "Steve Freides" > > wrote: > >> My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla beans >> that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) for months >> while giving up much of their goodness for my homemade vanilla syrup. >> >> The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the food >> processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice cream, or >> rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the middle removed >> and the pod discarded. > > My feeling is that the pods may still be a little chewy and not be > sufficiently broken down enough. > > We made about 3 litres of vanilla essence about 3 years ago, I still > have over a litre left. Well worth the effort as its every bit as good > (if not better) than any vanilla essence I've bought. If you're really > keen (and patient, like a few months patient), I'd use the pods to > make an essence and then use that in your ice cream... then again, you > could simply strain the pods out of your bourbon, as although the pods > are whole, the bourbon should have plenty of vanilla flavour by now. > >> If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd really >> like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to theorize about it, >> too. ![]() > > I guess that's what I did above ![]() I'm not sure how you're using "essence" here - how's that different from an "extract", which is what I think we created by soaking the beans in bourbon - the bourbon is what I use as a replacement for store-bought vanilla extract. Thanks. -S- |
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On 2014-04-24 9:03 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
> I'm not sure how you're using "essence" here - how's that different from > an "extract", which is what I think we created by soaking the beans in > bourbon - the bourbon is what I use as a replacement for store-bought > vanilla extract. > I had assumed that the "essence" is the same as extract.... soaking the beans in alcohol. I wish I had had the sense to do that when my nephew and his wife brought us a bug bundle of vanilla beans when they came back from a couple years living in Uganda. I didn't have much use for vanilla beans back then and by the time I got around to using them the texture was more like cinnamon sticks. If I had done it back then, about 15 years ago, I would probably still have lots of extract left. |
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:11:26 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote: > My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla beans > that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) for months > while giving up much of their goodness for my homemade vanilla syrup. > > The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the food > processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice cream, or > rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the middle removed and > the pod discarded. > > If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd really > like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to theorize about it, > too. ![]() > > Thanks in advance. > Split the pods and scrape the seeds out. -- I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila |
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On 4/24/2014 8:31 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
> > Some people freak out over the > sight of dark flecks in their food, even when you've reassured them it's > vanilla, but if this is for you and your wife, that won't be an issue. I was in a market one day and a woman brought back a half gallon of Breyers Vanilla Ice Cream because it had black specks in it. Showed it to the manager and he did not know what they were either and refunded her money. |
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On 24/04/2014 7:14 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, > says... >> >> >> We made about 3 litres of vanilla essence about 3 years ago, I still >> have over a litre left. Well worth the effort as its every bit as good >> (if not better) than any vanilla essence I've bought. > > I do the same though not in that quantity :-) I let it infuse for 6 > months before using After using the scraped out seeds, I chop the empty pods and put them in a small kilner/mason jar of vodka. > > > If you're really >> keen (and patient, like a few months patient), I'd use the pods to >> make an essence and then use that in your ice cream... then again, you >> could simply strain the pods out of your bourbon, as although the pods >> are whole, the bourbon should have plenty of vanilla flavour by now. > > You can dry them off then store them in a jar of sugar, which makes a > vanilla-flavoured sugar nice for cakes and puddings. > I've done that too but although it smells nice, it doesn't come through in the cakes. Graham |
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 13:28:18 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On 4/24/2014 8:31 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote: > > > > > Some people freak out over the > > sight of dark flecks in their food, even when you've reassured them it's > > vanilla, but if this is for you and your wife, that won't be an issue. > > I was in a market one day and a woman brought back a half gallon of > Breyers Vanilla Ice Cream because it had black specks in it. Showed it > to the manager and he did not know what they were either and refunded > her money. Head - desk. -- I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila |
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On 2014-04-24 1:28 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Some people freak out over the >> sight of dark flecks in their food, even when you've reassured them it's >> vanilla, but if this is for you and your wife, that won't be an issue. > > I was in a market one day and a woman brought back a half gallon of > Breyers Vanilla Ice Cream because it had black specks in it. Showed it > to the manager and he did not know what they were either and refunded > her money. Never underestimate the stupidity of the public. One of my nephews is a chef and a few years ago he was working at a winery restaurant. Those places tend to be pricey and one would hope that people who have enough money to eat in a place like that should have enough brains to know what they are ordering. Someone sent foie gras back...... because it was too fatty. Another sent back sweetbreads. She was a vegetarian and didn't know that sweetbreads were meat. |
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On 4/24/2014 1:49 PM, graham wrote:
> On 24/04/2014 7:14 AM, Janet wrote: >> You can dry them off then store them in a jar of sugar, which makes a >> vanilla-flavoured sugar nice for cakes and puddings. >> > I've done that too but although it smells nice, it doesn't come through > in the cakes. > I store them in a jar of powdered/icing/confectioner sugar, and use it for whipped cream, and drizzle icing. |
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![]() "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 4/24/2014 8:31 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote: > >> >> Some people freak out over the >> sight of dark flecks in their food, even when you've reassured them it's >> vanilla, but if this is for you and your wife, that won't be an issue. > > I was in a market one day and a woman brought back a half gallon of > Breyers Vanilla Ice Cream because it had black specks in it. Showed it to > the manager and he did not know what they were either and refunded her > money. Sheesh. |
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 15:14:45 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>In article >, >says... >> We made about 3 litres of vanilla essence about 3 years ago, I still >> have over a litre left. Well worth the effort as its every bit as good >> (if not better) than any vanilla essence I've bought. > > I do the same though not in that quantity :-) I let it infuse for 6 >months before using The longer the better ![]() I am so glad we did make that essence, at it has lasted so long and came out so nice. I haven't made many desserty things for quite some time now, which partly accounts why I still have a litre left, but I've also given away small jars to a few people as well. I reckon for anyone using it regularly, its well worth doing. Not that I have looked for a long time, but ebay was a great place to source good beans at a reasonable price. > If you're really >> keen (and patient, like a few months patient), I'd use the pods to >> make an essence and then use that in your ice cream... then again, you >> could simply strain the pods out of your bourbon, as although the pods >> are whole, the bourbon should have plenty of vanilla flavour by now. > > You can dry them off then store them in a jar of sugar, which makes a >vanilla-flavoured sugar nice for cakes and puddings. I have heard of that but not done it myself, |
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:03:35 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote: >Jeßus wrote: >> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:11:26 -0400, "Steve Freides" > >> wrote: >> >>> My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla beans >>> that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) for months >>> while giving up much of their goodness for my homemade vanilla syrup. >>> >>> The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the food >>> processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice cream, or >>> rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the middle removed >>> and the pod discarded. >> >> My feeling is that the pods may still be a little chewy and not be >> sufficiently broken down enough. >> >> We made about 3 litres of vanilla essence about 3 years ago, I still >> have over a litre left. Well worth the effort as its every bit as good >> (if not better) than any vanilla essence I've bought. If you're really >> keen (and patient, like a few months patient), I'd use the pods to >> make an essence and then use that in your ice cream... then again, you >> could simply strain the pods out of your bourbon, as although the pods >> are whole, the bourbon should have plenty of vanilla flavour by now. >> >>> If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd really >>> like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to theorize about it, >>> too. ![]() >> >> I guess that's what I did above ![]() > >I'm not sure how you're using "essence" here - how's that different from >an "extract", They are both one and the same thing. >which is what I think we created by soaking the beans in >bourbon - the bourbon is what I use as a replacement for store-bought >vanilla extract. It is, I'll have to try making a small batch with some bourbon instead of moonshine one day... sounds really good. |
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:40:07 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2014-04-24 9:03 AM, Steve Freides wrote: > >> I'm not sure how you're using "essence" here - how's that different from >> an "extract", which is what I think we created by soaking the beans in >> bourbon - the bourbon is what I use as a replacement for store-bought >> vanilla extract. >> > >I had assumed that the "essence" is the same as extract.... soaking the >beans in alcohol. Yup. In Australia it's normally referred to as an 'essence', so I just that word out of habit. >I wish I had had the sense to do that when my nephew and his wife >brought us a bug bundle of vanilla beans when they came back from a >couple years living in Uganda. I didn't have much use for vanilla beans >back then and by the time I got around to using them the texture was >more like cinnamon sticks. If I had done it back then, about 15 years >ago, I would probably still have lots of extract left. You would indeed. Even though I don't make many desserts these days I'm really glad we did make that essence, comes in handy and as you say, lasts for many years. |
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 08:50:40 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> > You can dry them off then store them in a jar of sugar, which makes a > > vanilla-flavoured sugar nice for cakes and puddings. > > I have heard of that but not done it myself, I have and agree with whoever it was upthread who expressed disappointment. The experience didn't make me a convert. -- I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila |
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 08:56:44 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> >I had assumed that the "essence" is the same as extract.... soaking the > >beans in alcohol. > > Yup. In it's normally referred to as an 'essence', so I just > that word out of habit. I'm glad you cleared that up because the answer sites I found say vanilla essence is chemicals: "vanilla essence is imitation vanilla extract". It's time we got used to seeing equivalent non-American food terms, so please continue using the word. Unfortunately, you'll probably need to answer the "what's that" question a few times before it sinks in that they are interchangeable terms. -- I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila |
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On 2014-04-24 7:15 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 08:56:44 +1000, Jeßus > wrote: > >>> I had assumed that the "essence" is the same as extract.... soaking the >>> beans in alcohol. >> >> Yup. In it's normally referred to as an 'essence', so I just >> that word out of habit. > > > I'm glad you cleared that up because the answer sites I found say > vanilla essence is chemicals: "vanilla essence is imitation vanilla > extract". That is curious, because when I Googled it I got much different results. It even had recipes.. soak vanilla beans in alcohol. What about all the more legitimate sites that said that It's time we got used to seeing equivalent non-American > food terms, so please continue using the word. Unfortunately, you'll > probably need to answer the "what's that" question a few times before > it sinks in that they are interchangeable terms. > |
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 16:15:49 -0700, sf > wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 08:56:44 +1000, Jeßus > wrote: > >> >I had assumed that the "essence" is the same as extract.... soaking the >> >beans in alcohol. >> >> Yup. In it's normally referred to as an 'essence', so I just >> that word out of habit. > >I'm glad you cleared that up because the answer sites I found say >vanilla essence is chemicals: "vanilla essence is imitation vanilla >extract". Yeah, the horrible stuff. I can only speak about Australia, but in our supermarkets you do need to look closely at the label and not just grab the first bottle you come across... it may be genuine or imitation. Same with maple syrup, I've seen some labels that are really quite deceiving - technically correct - but misleading that it is actually imitation and not the real stuff. There's probably some vanilla extract/essence labelled here as 'extract' too, it's not something I've paid much attention to but next time I go in a supermarket I'll take another look. >It's time we got used to seeing equivalent non-American >food terms, so please continue using the word. Unfortunately, you'll >probably need to answer the "what's that" question a few times before >it sinks in that they are interchangeable terms. That's okay, I don't mind. |
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On 2014-04-24 20:59, Jeßus wrote:
>> I'm glad you cleared that up because the answer sites I found say >> vanilla essence is chemicals: "vanilla essence is imitation vanilla >> extract". > > Yeah, the horrible stuff. I can only speak about Australia, but in our > supermarkets you do need to look closely at the label and not just > grab the first bottle you come across... it may be genuine or > imitation. Same with maple syrup, I've seen some labels that are > really quite deceiving - technically correct - but misleading that it > is actually imitation and not the real stuff. Around here that stuff is called artificial vanilla extract. |
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Jeßus wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:03:35 -0400, "Steve Freides" > > wrote: > >> Jeßus wrote: >>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:11:26 -0400, "Steve Freides" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla >>>> beans that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) for >>>> months while giving up much of their goodness for my homemade >>>> vanilla syrup. >>>> >>>> The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the food >>>> processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice cream, or >>>> rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the middle >>>> removed and the pod discarded. >>> >>> My feeling is that the pods may still be a little chewy and not be >>> sufficiently broken down enough. >>> >>> We made about 3 litres of vanilla essence about 3 years ago, I still >>> have over a litre left. Well worth the effort as its every bit as >>> good (if not better) than any vanilla essence I've bought. If >>> you're really keen (and patient, like a few months patient), I'd >>> use the pods to make an essence and then use that in your ice >>> cream... then again, you could simply strain the pods out of your >>> bourbon, as although the pods are whole, the bourbon should have >>> plenty of vanilla flavour by now. >>> >>>> If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd >>>> really like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to theorize >>>> about it, too. ![]() >>> >>> I guess that's what I did above ![]() >> >> I'm not sure how you're using "essence" here - how's that different >> from an "extract", > > They are both one and the same thing. > >> which is what I think we created by soaking the beans in >> bourbon - the bourbon is what I use as a replacement for store-bought >> vanilla extract. > > It is, I'll have to try making a small batch with some bourbon instead > of moonshine one day... sounds really good. We just made the custard - it's in the refrigerator, and we'll put it in the ice cream maker tomorrow evening. We elected to use the entire pod then strain it out, hopefully the best of both worlds. -S- |
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:34:31 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote: >Jeßus wrote: >> On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:03:35 -0400, "Steve Freides" > >> wrote: >> >>> Jeßus wrote: >>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:11:26 -0400, "Steve Freides" > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla >>>>> beans that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) for >>>>> months while giving up much of their goodness for my homemade >>>>> vanilla syrup. >>>>> >>>>> The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the food >>>>> processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice cream, or >>>>> rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the middle >>>>> removed and the pod discarded. >>>> >>>> My feeling is that the pods may still be a little chewy and not be >>>> sufficiently broken down enough. >>>> >>>> We made about 3 litres of vanilla essence about 3 years ago, I still >>>> have over a litre left. Well worth the effort as its every bit as >>>> good (if not better) than any vanilla essence I've bought. If >>>> you're really keen (and patient, like a few months patient), I'd >>>> use the pods to make an essence and then use that in your ice >>>> cream... then again, you could simply strain the pods out of your >>>> bourbon, as although the pods are whole, the bourbon should have >>>> plenty of vanilla flavour by now. >>>> >>>>> If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd >>>>> really like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to theorize >>>>> about it, too. ![]() >>>> >>>> I guess that's what I did above ![]() >>> >>> I'm not sure how you're using "essence" here - how's that different >>> from an "extract", >> >> They are both one and the same thing. >> >>> which is what I think we created by soaking the beans in >>> bourbon - the bourbon is what I use as a replacement for store-bought >>> vanilla extract. >> >> It is, I'll have to try making a small batch with some bourbon instead >> of moonshine one day... sounds really good. > >We just made the custard - it's in the refrigerator, and we'll put it in >the ice cream maker tomorrow evening. We elected to use the entire pod >then strain it out, hopefully the best of both worlds. Looking forward to hearing the results! |
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![]() "sf" > wrote in message ... > On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 08:50:40 +1000, Jeßus > wrote: > >> > You can dry them off then store them in a jar of sugar, which makes a >> > vanilla-flavoured sugar nice for cakes and puddings. >> >> I have heard of that but not done it myself, > > I have and agree with whoever it was upthread who expressed > disappointment. The experience didn't make me a convert. Same here. Waste of time. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Ophelia" wrote:
> >Waste of time. Reusing vanilla beans is like reusing TP. ![]() |
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Jeßus wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:34:31 -0400, "Steve Freides" > > wrote: > >> Jeßus wrote: >>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:03:35 -0400, "Steve Freides" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Jeßus wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:11:26 -0400, "Steve Freides" >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla >>>>>> beans that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) >>>>>> for months while giving up much of their goodness for my homemade >>>>>> vanilla syrup. >>>>>> >>>>>> The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the >>>>>> food processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice >>>>>> cream, or rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the >>>>>> middle removed and the pod discarded. >>>>> >>>>> My feeling is that the pods may still be a little chewy and not be >>>>> sufficiently broken down enough. >>>>> >>>>> We made about 3 litres of vanilla essence about 3 years ago, I >>>>> still have over a litre left. Well worth the effort as its every >>>>> bit as good (if not better) than any vanilla essence I've bought. >>>>> If you're really keen (and patient, like a few months patient), >>>>> I'd use the pods to make an essence and then use that in your ice >>>>> cream... then again, you could simply strain the pods out of your >>>>> bourbon, as although the pods are whole, the bourbon should have >>>>> plenty of vanilla flavour by now. >>>>> >>>>>> If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd >>>>>> really like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to >>>>>> theorize about it, too. ![]() >>>>> >>>>> I guess that's what I did above ![]() >>>> >>>> I'm not sure how you're using "essence" here - how's that different >>>> from an "extract", >>> >>> They are both one and the same thing. >>> >>>> which is what I think we created by soaking the beans in >>>> bourbon - the bourbon is what I use as a replacement for >>>> store-bought vanilla extract. >>> >>> It is, I'll have to try making a small batch with some bourbon >>> instead of moonshine one day... sounds really good. >> >> We just made the custard - it's in the refrigerator, and we'll put >> it in the ice cream maker tomorrow evening. We elected to use the >> entire pod then strain it out, hopefully the best of both worlds. > > Looking forward to hearing the results! Forgot to post yesterday. OMG, it was the most wonderful ice cream I've ever had, and by a long ways, too. Something about the bourbon and the vanilla. The recipe we used had 6 eggs yolks in it, and I think 3 cups of heavy cream and 1 cup of milk. I'll find the recipe and post a link tomorrow, but wow. My only regret is that I had to drop about 6 lbs. in the next 6 weeks to make weight for a meet, so I didn't really indulge in more than a few spoonfuls. <sigh> -S- |
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On Sat, 26 Apr 2014 21:02:57 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote: >Jeßus wrote: >> On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:34:31 -0400, "Steve Freides" > >> wrote: >> >>> Jeßus wrote: >>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:03:35 -0400, "Steve Freides" > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jeßus wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:11:26 -0400, "Steve Freides" >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla >>>>>>> beans that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) >>>>>>> for months while giving up much of their goodness for my homemade >>>>>>> vanilla syrup. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the >>>>>>> food processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice >>>>>>> cream, or rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the >>>>>>> middle removed and the pod discarded. >>>>>> >>>>>> My feeling is that the pods may still be a little chewy and not be >>>>>> sufficiently broken down enough. >>>>>> >>>>>> We made about 3 litres of vanilla essence about 3 years ago, I >>>>>> still have over a litre left. Well worth the effort as its every >>>>>> bit as good (if not better) than any vanilla essence I've bought. >>>>>> If you're really keen (and patient, like a few months patient), >>>>>> I'd use the pods to make an essence and then use that in your ice >>>>>> cream... then again, you could simply strain the pods out of your >>>>>> bourbon, as although the pods are whole, the bourbon should have >>>>>> plenty of vanilla flavour by now. >>>>>> >>>>>>> If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd >>>>>>> really like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to >>>>>>> theorize about it, too. ![]() >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess that's what I did above ![]() >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure how you're using "essence" here - how's that different >>>>> from an "extract", >>>> >>>> They are both one and the same thing. >>>> >>>>> which is what I think we created by soaking the beans in >>>>> bourbon - the bourbon is what I use as a replacement for >>>>> store-bought vanilla extract. >>>> >>>> It is, I'll have to try making a small batch with some bourbon >>>> instead of moonshine one day... sounds really good. >>> >>> We just made the custard - it's in the refrigerator, and we'll put >>> it in the ice cream maker tomorrow evening. We elected to use the >>> entire pod then strain it out, hopefully the best of both worlds. >> >> Looking forward to hearing the results! > >Forgot to post yesterday. > >OMG, it was the most wonderful ice cream I've ever had, and by a long >ways, too. Something about the bourbon and the vanilla. The recipe we >used had 6 eggs yolks in it, and I think 3 cups of heavy cream and 1 cup >of milk. I'll find the recipe and post a link tomorrow, but wow. My >only regret is that I had to drop about 6 lbs. in the next 6 weeks to >make weight for a meet, so I didn't really indulge in more than a few >spoonfuls. <sigh> With egg it's NOT ice cream... it's custard. I hate that froggy eggy TIAD crap. |
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On Sat, 26 Apr 2014 21:02:57 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote: >Jeßus wrote: >> On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:34:31 -0400, "Steve Freides" > >> wrote: >> >>> Jeßus wrote: >>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:03:35 -0400, "Steve Freides" > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jeßus wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:11:26 -0400, "Steve Freides" >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla >>>>>>> beans that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) >>>>>>> for months while giving up much of their goodness for my homemade >>>>>>> vanilla syrup. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the >>>>>>> food processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice >>>>>>> cream, or rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the >>>>>>> middle removed and the pod discarded. >>>>>> >>>>>> My feeling is that the pods may still be a little chewy and not be >>>>>> sufficiently broken down enough. >>>>>> >>>>>> We made about 3 litres of vanilla essence about 3 years ago, I >>>>>> still have over a litre left. Well worth the effort as its every >>>>>> bit as good (if not better) than any vanilla essence I've bought. >>>>>> If you're really keen (and patient, like a few months patient), >>>>>> I'd use the pods to make an essence and then use that in your ice >>>>>> cream... then again, you could simply strain the pods out of your >>>>>> bourbon, as although the pods are whole, the bourbon should have >>>>>> plenty of vanilla flavour by now. >>>>>> >>>>>>> If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd >>>>>>> really like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to >>>>>>> theorize about it, too. ![]() >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess that's what I did above ![]() >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure how you're using "essence" here - how's that different >>>>> from an "extract", >>>> >>>> They are both one and the same thing. >>>> >>>>> which is what I think we created by soaking the beans in >>>>> bourbon - the bourbon is what I use as a replacement for >>>>> store-bought vanilla extract. >>>> >>>> It is, I'll have to try making a small batch with some bourbon >>>> instead of moonshine one day... sounds really good. >>> >>> We just made the custard - it's in the refrigerator, and we'll put >>> it in the ice cream maker tomorrow evening. We elected to use the >>> entire pod then strain it out, hopefully the best of both worlds. >> >> Looking forward to hearing the results! > >Forgot to post yesterday. > >OMG, it was the most wonderful ice cream I've ever had, and by a long >ways, too. Glad to hear it ![]() >Something about the bourbon and the vanilla. I must do this myself, it sounds great. I have a drum of my own 'bourbon' aging which will do nicely for the job. I'll need to get myself some more beans first though. >The recipe we >used had 6 eggs yolks in it, and I think 3 cups of heavy cream and 1 cup >of milk. I'll find the recipe and post a link tomorrow, but wow. It's been a few years since I made ice cream, and my memory is a little hazy, but I recall it took a couple of attempts to get it just right with the egg yolks - heat them just a bit too much and it spoils the texture... the mouthfeel is like millions of little, tiny balls when overheated. >My >only regret is that I had to drop about 6 lbs. in the next 6 weeks to >make weight for a meet, so I didn't really indulge in more than a few >spoonfuls. <sigh> No problem. Just send it my way... problem solved ![]() |
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On 4/26/2014 9:02 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
> > OMG, it was the most wonderful ice cream I've ever had, and by a long > ways, too. Something about the bourbon and the vanilla. The recipe we > used had 6 eggs yolks in it, and I think 3 cups of heavy cream and 1 cup > of milk. I'll find the recipe and post a link tomorrow, but wow. My > only regret is that I had to drop about 6 lbs. in the next 6 weeks to > make weight for a meet, so I didn't really indulge in more than a few > spoonfuls. <sigh> > > -S- > > Sounds very rich. Vanilla is always the best ice cream |
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![]() "Jeßus" > wrote in message ... > On Sat, 26 Apr 2014 21:02:57 -0400, "Steve Freides" > > wrote: > >>Jeßus wrote: >>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:34:31 -0400, "Steve Freides" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Jeßus wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:03:35 -0400, "Steve Freides" > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jeßus wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:11:26 -0400, "Steve Freides" >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla >>>>>>>> beans that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) >>>>>>>> for months while giving up much of their goodness for my homemade >>>>>>>> vanilla syrup. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the >>>>>>>> food processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice >>>>>>>> cream, or rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the >>>>>>>> middle removed and the pod discarded. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My feeling is that the pods may still be a little chewy and not be >>>>>>> sufficiently broken down enough. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We made about 3 litres of vanilla essence about 3 years ago, I >>>>>>> still have over a litre left. Well worth the effort as its every >>>>>>> bit as good (if not better) than any vanilla essence I've bought. >>>>>>> If you're really keen (and patient, like a few months patient), >>>>>>> I'd use the pods to make an essence and then use that in your ice >>>>>>> cream... then again, you could simply strain the pods out of your >>>>>>> bourbon, as although the pods are whole, the bourbon should have >>>>>>> plenty of vanilla flavour by now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd >>>>>>>> really like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to >>>>>>>> theorize about it, too. ![]() >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess that's what I did above ![]() >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure how you're using "essence" here - how's that different >>>>>> from an "extract", >>>>> >>>>> They are both one and the same thing. >>>>> >>>>>> which is what I think we created by soaking the beans in >>>>>> bourbon - the bourbon is what I use as a replacement for >>>>>> store-bought vanilla extract. >>>>> >>>>> It is, I'll have to try making a small batch with some bourbon >>>>> instead of moonshine one day... sounds really good. >>>> >>>> We just made the custard - it's in the refrigerator, and we'll put >>>> it in the ice cream maker tomorrow evening. We elected to use the >>>> entire pod then strain it out, hopefully the best of both worlds. >>> >>> Looking forward to hearing the results! >> >>Forgot to post yesterday. >> >>OMG, it was the most wonderful ice cream I've ever had, and by a long >>ways, too. > > Glad to hear it ![]() > >>Something about the bourbon and the vanilla. > > I must do this myself, it sounds great. I have a drum of my own > 'bourbon' aging which will do nicely for the job. I'll need to get > myself some more beans first though. > >>The recipe we >>used had 6 eggs yolks in it, and I think 3 cups of heavy cream and 1 cup >>of milk. I'll find the recipe and post a link tomorrow, but wow. > > It's been a few years since I made ice cream, and my memory is a > little hazy, but I recall it took a couple of attempts to get it just > right with the egg yolks - heat them just a bit too much and it spoils > the texture... the mouthfeel is like millions of little, tiny balls > when overheated. > >>My >>only regret is that I had to drop about 6 lbs. in the next 6 weeks to >>make weight for a meet, so I didn't really indulge in more than a few >>spoonfuls. <sigh> > > No problem. Just send it my way... problem solved ![]() *raises hand* I'll help! -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Apr 2014 21:02:57 -0400, "Steve Freides" > > wrote: > >> Jeßus wrote: >>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:34:31 -0400, "Steve Freides" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Jeßus wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:03:35 -0400, "Steve Freides" >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jeßus wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:11:26 -0400, "Steve Freides" >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My wife and I are debating this one. We have a pile of vanilla >>>>>>>> beans that have been soaking in a bottle of Jim Beam (bourbon) >>>>>>>> for months while giving up much of their goodness for my >>>>>>>> homemade vanilla syrup. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The question is whether or not these beans, pulverized in the >>>>>>>> food processor, could be used that way in homemade vanilla ice >>>>>>>> cream, or rather need to be opened up and the good stuff in the >>>>>>>> middle removed and the pod discarded. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My feeling is that the pods may still be a little chewy and not >>>>>>> be sufficiently broken down enough. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We made about 3 litres of vanilla essence about 3 years ago, I >>>>>>> still have over a litre left. Well worth the effort as its every >>>>>>> bit as good (if not better) than any vanilla essence I've >>>>>>> bought. If you're really keen (and patient, like a few months >>>>>>> patient), I'd use the pods to make an essence and then use that >>>>>>> in your ice cream... then again, you could simply strain the >>>>>>> pods out of your bourbon, as although the pods are whole, the >>>>>>> bourbon should have plenty of vanilla flavour by now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If anyone has actually tried this themselves, that's what I'd >>>>>>>> really like to hear about. Of course, you're welcomed to >>>>>>>> theorize about it, too. ![]() >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess that's what I did above ![]() >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure how you're using "essence" here - how's that >>>>>> different from an "extract", >>>>> >>>>> They are both one and the same thing. >>>>> >>>>>> which is what I think we created by soaking the beans in >>>>>> bourbon - the bourbon is what I use as a replacement for >>>>>> store-bought vanilla extract. >>>>> >>>>> It is, I'll have to try making a small batch with some bourbon >>>>> instead of moonshine one day... sounds really good. >>>> >>>> We just made the custard - it's in the refrigerator, and we'll put >>>> it in the ice cream maker tomorrow evening. We elected to use the >>>> entire pod then strain it out, hopefully the best of both worlds. >>> >>> Looking forward to hearing the results! >> >> Forgot to post yesterday. >> >> OMG, it was the most wonderful ice cream I've ever had, and by a long >> ways, too. > > Glad to hear it ![]() > >> Something about the bourbon and the vanilla. > > I must do this myself, it sounds great. I have a drum of my own > 'bourbon' aging which will do nicely for the job. I'll need to get > myself some more beans first though. > >> The recipe we >> used had 6 eggs yolks in it, and I think 3 cups of heavy cream and 1 >> cup of milk. I'll find the recipe and post a link tomorrow, but wow. > > It's been a few years since I made ice cream, and my memory is a > little hazy, but I recall it took a couple of attempts to get it just > right with the egg yolks - heat them just a bit too much and it spoils > the texture... the mouthfeel is like millions of little, tiny balls > when overheated. > >> My >> only regret is that I had to drop about 6 lbs. in the next 6 weeks to >> make weight for a meet, so I didn't really indulge in more than a few >> spoonfuls. <sigh> > > No problem. Just send it my way... problem solved ![]() OK, here's a link to the recipe, and here's what we did a little differently. BTW, I noticed this recipe has _zero_ reviews - I will certainly post a glowing one in the next day or two: http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/fo...Cream-51113430 Instead of this ... * 1 vanilla bean, split lengthwise and seeds scraped .... we used some of what we had in the Jim Beam bottle. Before we put those beans into the bottle, we cut them into 2-3" long pieces and split them open. We did this becuase this was our second batch, and we noticed on the first batch that as we used up the liquid in the first bottle, the beans became uncovered. We didn't want that, thus the smaller pieces. My wife took a small handful of our bean segments, which she and I think probably amounted to 4 or 5 full beans. We didn't scrape the seeds out, just added the beans where called for in the recipe, and took them out where called for. The resulting ice cream has lots of little black flecks in it, so I'm guessing that scraping the pods after they've been soaking in bourbon for six months isn't really necessary. Otherwise, we made the recipe as-is. It doesn't taste at all eggy but it has hints of custard and even hints of egg nog, the latter likely due to the bourbon, I'm guessing.. Whatever it is, it's just spectacular. My wife observed that this recipe was heavy on the cream and light on the sugar compared to some we've used in the past - I couldn't say since the last time we made ice cream was a few years ago and I frankly don't remember. She also observed that she chose this recipe because it didn't call for any vanilla extract. It has exactly 5 ingredients, cream and milk being two of them, plus sugar, 6 large eggs yolks, and vanilla bean(s). We have lots more beans from this batch, so we'll be doing this again in not too long, I'm sure. Very highly recommended, and if you make it, please post here and let us all know. -S- |
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 19:28:20 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote: >OK, here's a link to the recipe, and here's what we did a little >differently. BTW, I noticed this recipe has _zero_ reviews - I will >certainly post a glowing one in the next day or two: > >http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/fo...Cream-51113430 > >Instead of this ... > >* 1 vanilla bean, split lengthwise and seeds scraped > >... we used some of what we had in the Jim Beam bottle. Before we put >those beans into the bottle, we cut them into 2-3" long pieces and split >them open. We did this becuase this was our second batch, and we >noticed on the first batch that as we used up the liquid in the first >bottle, the beans became uncovered. We didn't want that, thus the >smaller pieces. > >My wife took a small handful of our bean segments, which she and I think >probably amounted to 4 or 5 full beans. We didn't scrape the seeds out, >just added the beans where called for in the recipe, and took them out >where called for. The resulting ice cream has lots of little black >flecks in it, so I'm guessing that scraping the pods after they've been >soaking in bourbon for six months isn't really necessary. > >Otherwise, we made the recipe as-is. It doesn't taste at all eggy but >it has hints of custard and even hints of egg nog, the latter likely due >to the bourbon, I'm guessing.. Whatever it is, it's just spectacular. >My wife observed that this recipe was heavy on the cream and light on >the sugar compared to some we've used in the past - I couldn't say since >the last time we made ice cream was a few years ago and I frankly don't >remember. She also observed that she chose this recipe because it >didn't call for any vanilla extract. It has exactly 5 ingredients, >cream and milk being two of them, plus sugar, 6 large eggs yolks, and >vanilla bean(s). > >We have lots more beans from this batch, so we'll be doing this again in >not too long, I'm sure. > >Very highly recommended, and if you make it, please post here and let us >all know. > >-S- > |
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 19:28:20 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote: > >OK, here's a link to the recipe, and here's what we did a little >differently. BTW, I noticed this recipe has _zero_ reviews - I will >certainly post a glowing one in the next day or two: > >http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/fo...Cream-51113430 > >Instead of this ... > >* 1 vanilla bean, split lengthwise and seeds scraped > >... we used some of what we had in the Jim Beam bottle. Before we put >those beans into the bottle, we cut them into 2-3" long pieces and split >them open. We did this becuase this was our second batch, and we >noticed on the first batch that as we used up the liquid in the first >bottle, the beans became uncovered. We didn't want that, thus the >smaller pieces. > >My wife took a small handful of our bean segments, which she and I think >probably amounted to 4 or 5 full beans. We didn't scrape the seeds out, >just added the beans where called for in the recipe, and took them out >where called for. The resulting ice cream has lots of little black >flecks in it, so I'm guessing that scraping the pods after they've been >soaking in bourbon for six months isn't really necessary. > >Otherwise, we made the recipe as-is. It doesn't taste at all eggy but >it has hints of custard and even hints of egg nog, the latter likely due >to the bourbon, I'm guessing.. Whatever it is, it's just spectacular. >My wife observed that this recipe was heavy on the cream and light on >the sugar compared to some we've used in the past - I couldn't say since >the last time we made ice cream was a few years ago and I frankly don't >remember. She also observed that she chose this recipe because it >didn't call for any vanilla extract. It has exactly 5 ingredients, >cream and milk being two of them, plus sugar, 6 large eggs yolks, and >vanilla bean(s). > >We have lots more beans from this batch, so we'll be doing this again in >not too long, I'm sure. > >Very highly recommended, and if you make it, please post here and let us >all know. Thanks for posting this Steve, I have bookmarked the recipe for my next lot of ice cream... I should also get some more beans and soak them in bourbon! Cheers. |
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On Thu, 01 May 2014 07:54:35 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 19:28:20 -0400, "Steve Freides" > >wrote: >> >>OK, here's a link to the recipe, and here's what we did a little >>differently. BTW, I noticed this recipe has _zero_ reviews - I will >>certainly post a glowing one in the next day or two: >> >>http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/fo...Cream-51113430 >> >>Instead of this ... >> >>* 1 vanilla bean, split lengthwise and seeds scraped >> >>... we used some of what we had in the Jim Beam bottle. Before we put >>those beans into the bottle, we cut them into 2-3" long pieces and split >>them open. We did this becuase this was our second batch, and we >>noticed on the first batch that as we used up the liquid in the first >>bottle, the beans became uncovered. We didn't want that, thus the >>smaller pieces. >> >>My wife took a small handful of our bean segments, which she and I think >>probably amounted to 4 or 5 full beans. We didn't scrape the seeds out, >>just added the beans where called for in the recipe, and took them out >>where called for. The resulting ice cream has lots of little black >>flecks in it, so I'm guessing that scraping the pods after they've been >>soaking in bourbon for six months isn't really necessary. >> >>Otherwise, we made the recipe as-is. It doesn't taste at all eggy but >>it has hints of custard and even hints of egg nog, the latter likely due >>to the bourbon, I'm guessing.. Whatever it is, it's just spectacular. >>My wife observed that this recipe was heavy on the cream and light on >>the sugar compared to some we've used in the past - I couldn't say since >>the last time we made ice cream was a few years ago and I frankly don't >>remember. She also observed that she chose this recipe because it >>didn't call for any vanilla extract. It has exactly 5 ingredients, >>cream and milk being two of them, plus sugar, 6 large eggs yolks, and >>vanilla bean(s). >> >>We have lots more beans from this batch, so we'll be doing this again in >>not too long, I'm sure. >> >>Very highly recommended, and if you make it, please post here and let us >>all know. > >Thanks for posting this Steve, I have bookmarked the recipe for my >next lot of ice cream... I should also get some more beans and soak >them in bourbon! Cheers. Just bought 100g of PNG beans to soak in my home made bourbon... |
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