On 4/28/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
> Unfortunately I had two choices, move the fridge to the other 'wet'
> side or pull up the ceramic tiles and drill a rut across the floor in
> the concrete. The fridge is in the best place for it and were I to
> move it over it would cut up a good stretch of countertop. I am in a
> condo and decided not to enquire whether I could drill into the floor
> and said to self - this is all about ice cubes that can be made in
> trays the old fashioned way lol Sometimes it makes sense to accept
> what it would be foolishly expensive to change.

I think you made the wise choice. :-D

Jill

On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:28:43 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 4/28/2014 2:18 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:20:21 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, freezer on one side, fridge on the other. I've never had a french
> >> door fridge. I'm not sure one would fit into the refrigerator space I
> >> have.
> >
> > They exist. I found one or two that would fit into my tiny space.
> >
> >
> I'll think about it when the side by side I starts giving me trouble.
> It is a bit bigger than the space it was designed to fit. At least it
> isn't an enclosed space fitted between cabinets. I'm sure I'll have
> options. I really don't think I need that much top refrigerator space.
> That seems to be what french door fridges are about.
>
If the market ever recovers enough for you to consider selling, a
French Door model could be something that would help make a sale if
you included it in the price - especially since you're in an area
where your house would probably be a second home for the buyer.


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On 4/28/2014 2:42 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/27/2014 6:28 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> That's why there are different styles. I wouldn't
>> consider a refrigerator that wasn't side by side.

> We have a S x S now, but next one will be French door. The freezer on
> top makes little sense as we have a freezer too.

I like the looks of those french door models, too.

nancy

In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sunday, April 27, 2014 6:09:52 PM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
> >>
> >> I
> >> considered getting a french door when my refrigerator bit the dust
> >> last year, only because it's become difficult to find a side by
> >> side without water and ice dispensers.
> >>
> >> nancy
> >>
> >>
> > You usually have to order the refrigerator without the ice and water
> > dispensers. I don't have one now and my future refrigerator will not have
> > one either. Wasted space as far as I'm concerned.
>
> Mine came without which was good because I did not want them.

are you telling us that your husband and daughter know how to make ice
cubes or is it that you buy bags of ice at the store?

On 4/28/2014 9:43 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>> You can rent a fridge? I've never heard of that.
>>
>> People over here don't pack up entire kitchens right down to the walls
>> when they move.
>
> We don't either. The only place I have seen that is Germany.
>
>
All posts are correct - we rent our home and all appliances, including
washer & dryer, are included. We are in a house right now and haven't
lived in an apartment for many years.

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"DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
...
> On 4/28/2014 9:43 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>> You can rent a fridge? I've never heard of that.
>>>
>>> People over here don't pack up entire kitchens right down to the walls
>>> when they move.
>>
>> We don't either. The only place I have seen that is Germany.
>>
>>
> All posts are correct - we rent our home and all appliances, including
> washer & dryer, are included. We are in a house right now and haven't
> lived in an apartment for many years.

Good! I hope you are happy with your appliances. Any of us who buys them
can't always choose what they 'really' would like either))




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On 4/28/2014 2:22 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 12:07:45 -0500, Janet Wilder >
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/28/2014 11:53 AM, wrote:
>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 08:21:49 -0400, Nancy Young
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/27/2014 11:58 PM, wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, April 27, 2014 6:09:52 PM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> considered getting a french door when my refrigerator bit the dust
>>>>>> last year, only because it's become difficult to find a side by
>>>>>> side without water and ice dispensers.
>>>>
>>>>> You usually have to order the refrigerator without the ice and water
>>>>> dispensers. I don't have one now and my future refrigerator will not
>>>>> have one either. Wasted space as far as I'm concerned.
>>>>
>>>> You're right, I did wind up ordering it online. Even then, very
>>>> few models to choose from. Let's hope this one gives me a heads up
>>>> before it dies because I need a few days lead time.
>>>>
>>>> That unit does take up a lot of room and I don't need water
>>>> in the door and I'm fussy about my ice cubes, so it would be
>>>> useless to me. Never mind I'd have to get a plumber in to run
>>>> a water line.
>>>>
>>>> nancy
>>>
>>> I had always had an in freezer cube maker and loved it but when I came
>>> here the kitchen allowed for the fridge to go on the dry side. I
>>> debated, could have had a jack hammer here to chisel through the
>>> concrete floor but in the end decided, there could be life without a
>>> cube maker
>>>
>> My fridge is plumbed with a plastic tube line that goes under the
>> cabinets to where the fridge is. Would that work for you?
>>
>> I have tiled concrete floors as well.
>
> Unfortunately I had two choices, move the fridge to the other 'wet'
> side or pull up the ceramic tiles and drill a rut across the floor in
> the concrete. The fridge is in the best place for it and were I to
> move it over it would cut up a good stretch of countertop. I am in a
> condo and decided not to enquire whether I could drill into the floor
> and said to self - this is all about ice cubes that can be made in
> trays the old fashioned way lol Sometimes it makes sense to accept
> what it would be foolishly expensive to change.
>
If there is counter top, there are cabinets below and the plastic tupe
can run through the cabinets. Someone was giving you wrong information.

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On 4/28/2014 2:28 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/28/2014 2:18 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:20:21 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, freezer on one side, fridge on the other. I've never had a french
>>> door fridge. I'm not sure one would fit into the refrigerator space I
>>> have.
>>
>> They exist. I found one or two that would fit into my tiny space.
>>
>>
> I'll think about it when the side by side I starts giving me trouble. It
> is a bit bigger than the space it was designed to fit. At least it
> isn't an enclosed space fitted between cabinets. I'm sure I'll have
> options. I really don't think I need that much top refrigerator space.
> That seems to be what french door fridges are about.
>
> Jill

French Door fridges are all bottom freezers.

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On 4/28/2014 3:41 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:28:43 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/28/2014 2:18 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:20:21 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, freezer on one side, fridge on the other. I've never had a french
>>>> door fridge. I'm not sure one would fit into the refrigerator space I
>>>> have.
>>>
>>> They exist. I found one or two that would fit into my tiny space.
>>>
>>>
>> I'll think about it when the side by side I starts giving me trouble.
>> It is a bit bigger than the space it was designed to fit. At least it
>> isn't an enclosed space fitted between cabinets. I'm sure I'll have
>> options. I really don't think I need that much top refrigerator space.
>> That seems to be what french door fridges are about.
>>
> If the market ever recovers enough for you to consider selling, a
> French Door model could be something that would help make a sale if
> you included it in the price - especially since you're in an area
> where your house would probably be a second home for the buyer.
>
>
If I spent the money to upgrade to a French Door fridge I'd take it with
me, not convey it with the house. That single appliance would not
significantly increase the value of this place.

Jill

On 4/28/2014 6:42 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 4/28/2014 2:28 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/28/2014 2:18 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:20:21 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, freezer on one side, fridge on the other. I've never had a french
>>>> door fridge. I'm not sure one would fit into the refrigerator space I
>>>> have.
>>>
>>> They exist. I found one or two that would fit into my tiny space.
>>>
>>>
>> I'll think about it when the side by side I starts giving me trouble. It
>> is a bit bigger than the space it was designed to fit. At least it
>> isn't an enclosed space fitted between cabinets. I'm sure I'll have
>> options. I really don't think I need that much top refrigerator space.
>> That seems to be what french door fridges are about.
>>
>> Jill
>
> French Door fridges are all bottom freezers.
>
Yes, I know that. I'm talking about the double door refrigerator at the
top. I simply don't need that much cold space.

Jill

On 4/28/2014 11:36 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>
> I can never find anything in the side by side. It's much deeper than it
> is wide and stuff lurks on the back of the shelves. I also find it hard
> to reach all the way back and hard to find things. The shelves are
> supposed to pull out, but they don't.
>
> I can't wait until my "real" fridge comes.

One of the things I really like about my fridge is the clear plastic
shelves and drawers. I can see pretty much everything in there, plus
the shelves pull out if needed. One can fold under to accommodate tall
items if they are too tall to fit on the door shelves, which are highly
configurable. I'm sure you're going to just LOVE having that new fridge!

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On 4/28/2014 3:28 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
> I'll think about it when the side by side I starts giving me trouble. It
> is a bit bigger than the space it was designed to fit. At least it
> isn't an enclosed space fitted between cabinets. I'm sure I'll have
> options. I really don't think I need that much top refrigerator space.
> That seems to be what french door fridges are about.

I lucked out with mine. Any larger and it wouldn't have fit. I measured
height and width, but I didn't think about depth, thinking they were all
the same. It sticks out a little more than I'd like but I've gotten used
to it. It fits between a cabinet and a wall, and has a cabinet above,
which is where I had to measure carefully to make sure it would fit.

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On 4/28/2014 6:42 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 4/28/2014 11:36 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>>
>> I can never find anything in the side by side. It's much deeper than it
>> is wide and stuff lurks on the back of the shelves. I also find it hard
>> to reach all the way back and hard to find things. The shelves are
>> supposed to pull out, but they don't.
>>
>> I can't wait until my "real" fridge comes.
>
> One of the things I really like about my fridge is the clear plastic
> shelves and drawers. I can see pretty much everything in there, plus
> the shelves pull out if needed. One can fold under to accommodate tall
> items if they are too tall to fit on the door shelves, which are highly
> configurable. I'm sure you're going to just LOVE having that new fridge!
>

I hope so. The shelves are split and adjustable which give me more
storage options than straight across shelves.

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On 4/28/2014 6:08 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 17:42:10 -0500, Janet Wilder >
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/28/2014 2:22 PM, wrote:
>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 12:07:45 -0500, Janet Wilder >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/28/2014 11:53 AM, wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 08:21:49 -0400, Nancy Young
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/27/2014 11:58 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 27, 2014 6:09:52 PM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> considered getting a french door when my refrigerator bit the dust
>>>>>>>> last year, only because it's become difficult to find a side by
>>>>>>>> side without water and ice dispensers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You usually have to order the refrigerator without the ice and water
>>>>>>> dispensers. I don't have one now and my future refrigerator will not
>>>>>>> have one either. Wasted space as far as I'm concerned.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're right, I did wind up ordering it online. Even then, very
>>>>>> few models to choose from. Let's hope this one gives me a heads up
>>>>>> before it dies because I need a few days lead time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That unit does take up a lot of room and I don't need water
>>>>>> in the door and I'm fussy about my ice cubes, so it would be
>>>>>> useless to me. Never mind I'd have to get a plumber in to run
>>>>>> a water line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nancy
>>>>>
>>>>> I had always had an in freezer cube maker and loved it but when I came
>>>>> here the kitchen allowed for the fridge to go on the dry side. I
>>>>> debated, could have had a jack hammer here to chisel through the
>>>>> concrete floor but in the end decided, there could be life without a
>>>>> cube maker
>>>>>
>>>> My fridge is plumbed with a plastic tube line that goes under the
>>>> cabinets to where the fridge is. Would that work for you?
>>>>
>>>> I have tiled concrete floors as well.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I had two choices, move the fridge to the other 'wet'
>>> side or pull up the ceramic tiles and drill a rut across the floor in
>>> the concrete. The fridge is in the best place for it and were I to
>>> move it over it would cut up a good stretch of countertop. I am in a
>>> condo and decided not to enquire whether I could drill into the floor
>>> and said to self - this is all about ice cubes that can be made in
>>> trays the old fashioned way lol Sometimes it makes sense to accept
>>> what it would be foolishly expensive to change.
>>>
>> If there is counter top, there are cabinets below and the plastic tupe
>> can run through the cabinets. Someone was giving you wrong information.
>
> But - how does it cross from one side to the other ? Either over the
> ceiling or under the ceramic floor tiles -
>
I was assuming that the sink was in one corner of the cabinets.

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On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:31:14 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> If I spent the money to upgrade to a French Door fridge I'd take it with
> me, not convey it with the house. That single appliance would not
> significantly increase the value of this place.

Not increase the value per se, but it could be one of those little
things that makes someone decide to buy your home instead of another
one.


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On 4/28/2014 9:59 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:31:14 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> If I spent the money to upgrade to a French Door fridge I'd take it with
>> me, not convey it with the house. That single appliance would not
>> significantly increase the value of this place.
>
> Not increase the value per se, but it could be one of those little
> things that makes someone decide to buy your home instead of another
> one.
>
>
I sincerely doubt it.

Jill

On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 18:59:02 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:31:14 -0400, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>> If I spent the money to upgrade to a French Door fridge I'd take it with
>> me, not convey it with the house. That single appliance would not
>> significantly increase the value of this place.
>
>Not increase the value per se, but it could be one of those little
>things that makes someone decide to buy your home instead of another
>one.

Very true. And it would cost more to move that not so "little thing"
than it's worth (it's used), certainly costs more to move than the
price difference between a freedom door fridge and a regular door
fridge. And coincidently my daughter is planning to move so they're
house hunting... she discounted a lovely home on 10+ acres solely
because she said the appliances are kind of old, appliances are the
least important part of a house, in fact they are NOT part of a house,
appliances are the easiest (and least expensive) item to upgrade, and
typically the older appliances are made much better than the crap
produced today. It takes ten minutes to swap a fridge, not like
installing a replacement window. She wanted privacy so I found her
this:
http://www.weichert.com/41248902/

On 4/29/2014 12:13 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 18:59:02 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:31:14 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If I spent the money to upgrade to a French Door fridge I'd take it with
>>> me, not convey it with the house. That single appliance would not
>>> significantly increase the value of this place.
>>
>> Not increase the value per se, but it could be one of those little
>> things that makes someone decide to buy your home instead of another
>> one.
>
> Very true. And it would cost more to move that not so "little thing"
> than it's worth (it's used), certainly costs more to move than the
> price difference between a freedom door fridge and a regular door
> fridge.

I don't know what you mean. It doesn't cost more to move a refrigerator
than it does the rest of the furnishings. They don't charge extra to
load a refrigerator onto the moving van.

> And coincidently my daughter is planning to move so they're
> house hunting... she discounted a lovely home on 10+ acres solely
> because she said the appliances are kind of old, appliances are the
> least important part of a house, in fact they are NOT part of a house,
> appliances are the easiest (and least expensive) item to upgrade, and
> typically the older appliances are made much better than the crap
> produced today. It takes ten minutes to swap a fridge, not like
> installing a replacement window. She wanted privacy so I found her
> this:
> http://www.weichert.com/41248902/
>
Nice looking house.

You say appliances are the easiest and least expensive items to replace.
Then you say older appliances are better made. So... What? Throw out
the old, bring in the new, less reliable, use it for a while then convey
it with the sale? What if the buyers don't *want* a "freedom fridge"?
They'll turn around and sell it and you're still out the money for
having bought it. Then you have to replace your fridge because you
basically gave it to them.

I'm not buying a new refrigerator then giving it away with the house.
That doesn't make sense to me. Appliances are considered used the
minute you get them. Just like cars, the minute you drive them off the lot.

Jill

On 4/28/2014 3:59 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:31:14 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> If I spent the money to upgrade to a French Door fridge I'd take it with
>> me, not convey it with the house. That single appliance would not
>> significantly increase the value of this place.
>
> Not increase the value per se, but it could be one of those little
> things that makes someone decide to buy your home instead of another
> one.
>
>

It's not a good idea to buy a house based on appliances, flooring, or
paint, but people will do that.

On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 23:05:22 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 4/28/2014 9:59 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:31:14 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> If I spent the money to upgrade to a French Door fridge I'd take it with
> >> me, not convey it with the house. That single appliance would not
> >> significantly increase the value of this place.
> >
> > Not increase the value per se, but it could be one of those little
> > things that makes someone decide to buy your home instead of another
> > one.
> >
> >
> I sincerely doubt it.
>

It's a selling strategy in a buyer's market.


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On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 13:04:30 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> I'm not buying a new refrigerator then giving it away with the house.
> That doesn't make sense to me. Appliances are considered used the
> minute you get them. Just like cars, the minute you drive them off the lot.

You're not moving tomorrow and have no plans to move in the
foreseeable future, so it won't be a new appliance by the time you put
your house on the market.


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On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 07:11:45 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

> On 4/28/2014 3:59 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:31:14 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> If I spent the money to upgrade to a French Door fridge I'd take it with
> >> me, not convey it with the house. That single appliance would not
> >> significantly increase the value of this place.
> >
> > Not increase the value per se, but it could be one of those little
> > things that makes someone decide to buy your home instead of another
> > one.
> >
> >
>
> It's not a good idea to buy a house based on appliances, flooring, or
> paint, but people will do that.

When all the other things are equal, that's what will tip the scales
toward your house being the first to sell.


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In article >,
says...
>
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:10:55 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > "DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On 4/26/2014 9:56 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> > >
> > >>> Don't leave us in suspense! Which model did you buy???
> > >>>
> > >> WRF535SMBM
> > >>
> > >> http://tinyurl.com/l57lv94
> > >>
> > > Congratulations on your new fridge! As a life-long renter I've never
> > > known the feeling of purchasing a new appliance. )-: I hope your new
> > > fridge is everything you wanted it to be and that it works flawlessly for
> > > a zillion years!! (-:
> >
> > You can rent a fridge? I've never heard of that.
>
> People over here don't pack up entire kitchens right down to the walls
> when they move. Rental homes and apartments often come with
> appliances and they are included in the cost of the rent.

That is the norm in UK rented homes.

Janet UK

On 2014-04-29, jmcquown > wrote:

> I don't know what you mean. It doesn't cost more to move a refrigerator

No, but everything is now an expense to toss. When I moved to CO, I
hadda pay $20 to dispose of my fridge, which still worked jes fine
BTW, but was too old to sell. Can't put mattresses in dump w/o
paying. As of last July, all electronics --that includes m/w ovens,
TVs, computers, printers, etc-- must be desposed of through a
commercial disposal business. There's a fee on every item.

nb

On 4/29/2014 1:49 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2014-04-29, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> I don't know what you mean. It doesn't cost more to move a refrigerator
>
> No, but everything is now an expense to toss. When I moved to CO, I
> hadda pay $20 to dispose of my fridge, which still worked jes fine
> BTW, but was too old to sell. Can't put mattresses in dump w/o
> paying. As of last July, all electronics --that includes m/w ovens,
> TVs, computers, printers, etc-- must be desposed of through a
> commercial disposal business. There's a fee on every item.
>
> nb
>
I guess it depends on where you live. When my mom's old freezer died I
bought a much smaller one from Lowes. They hauled off and disposed of
the old one, no extra charge. They do that with all appliances you buy
from them.

As for computers, printers, etc. - Best Buy will recycle them free of
charge. That's one store that is fairly close. Of course those are
items that will fit in my car. A refrigerator sure as heck wouldn't.

Jill

On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 07:11:45 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

>On 4/28/2014 3:59 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:31:14 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If I spent the money to upgrade to a French Door fridge I'd take it with
>>> me, not convey it with the house. That single appliance would not
>>> significantly increase the value of this place.
>>
>> Not increase the value per se, but it could be one of those little
>> things that makes someone decide to buy your home instead of another
>> one.
>>
>>
>
>It's not a good idea to buy a house based on appliances, flooring, or
>paint, but people will do that.

They certainly do. The heating system and AC can be old and very
inefficient, but if you have granite counter tops, you have a sale.

On 4/29/2014 7:01 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 07:11:45 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 4/28/2014 3:59 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:31:14 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I spent the money to upgrade to a French Door fridge I'd take it with
>>>> me, not convey it with the house. That single appliance would not
>>>> significantly increase the value of this place.
>>>
>>> Not increase the value per se, but it could be one of those little
>>> things that makes someone decide to buy your home instead of another
>>> one.
>>
>> It's not a good idea to buy a house based on appliances, flooring, or
>> paint, but people will do that.
>
> They certainly do. The heating system and AC can be old and very
> inefficient, but if you have granite counter tops, you have a sale.
>
I find the idea silly. I get a kick out of the (usually young) people
on House Hunters who *have* to have granite countertops and stainless
appliances. I guess if it's pretty nothing else matters.

I hope they have money to replace the AC when it decides to crap out and
it's 90° in the shade. Good luck sleeping on those pretty, albeit cool,
granite counter tops. LOL

Jill

On 4/29/2014 12:13 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> And coincidently my daughter is planning to move so they're
> house hunting... she discounted a lovely home on 10+ acres solely
> because she said the appliances are kind of old, appliances are the
> least important part of a house, in fact they are NOT part of a house,
> appliances are the easiest (and least expensive) item to upgrade, and
> typically the older appliances are made much better than the crap
> produced today. It takes ten minutes to swap a fridge, not like
> installing a replacement window. She wanted privacy so I found her
> this:
> http://www.weichert.com/41248902/

What a lovely house! I'd buy it but that's a bit high for me, let alone
the geo location. But it's really a pretty house.

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On 4/29/2014 11:36 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 4/29/2014 12:13 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> And coincidently my daughter is planning to move so they're
>> house hunting... she discounted a lovely home on 10+ acres solely
>> because she said the appliances are kind of old,
(snippage)

Maybe she doesn't want to deal with 10+ acres like dear old dad...

(more snippage)
>> She wanted privacy so I found her
>> this:
>> http://www.weichert.com/41248902/
>
> What a lovely house! I'd buy it but that's a bit high for me, let alone
> the geo location. But it's really a pretty house.
>
It's a beautiful house, to be sure. What bothers me is this statement:
"She wanted privacy so I found her this". I'm fairly sure she's capable
of finding a house she likes. Ask for advice, okay. But who is paying
for it?

I'll never understand why fathers keep thinking of adult daughters as
little girls.

Jill

On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 23:58:16 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> I'll never understand why fathers keep thinking of adult daughters as
> little girls.

Your daughter is still your little girl, no matter how old she is! My
husband did that when our DD was house hunting too. IMO - it keeps
the old man busy. DD's act appreciative and then buy what they want.
Their money, their decision.


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On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 9:26:05 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 4/29/2014 7:01 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > The heating system and AC can be old and very
> > inefficient, but if you have granite counter tops, you have a sale.
>
>
> I find the idea silly. I get a kick out of the (usually young) people
> on House Hunters who *have* to have granite countertops and stainless
> appliances. I guess if it's pretty nothing else matters.
>
> I hope they have money to replace the AC when it decides to crap out and
> it's 90� in the shade. Good luck sleeping on those pretty, albeit cool,
> granite counter tops. LOL
>
>
> Jill
>
>
And half of them can't even boil water but MUST have a show kitchen.

On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:25:14 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 9:26:05 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > I find the idea silly. I get a kick out of the (usually young) people
> > on House Hunters who *have* to have granite countertops and stainless
> > appliances. I guess if it's pretty nothing else matters.
>
> > I hope they have money to replace the AC when it decides to crap out and
> > it's 90� in the shade. Good luck sleeping on those pretty, albeit cool,
> > granite counter tops. LOL
>
> > Jill
> >
> And half of them can't even boil water but MUST have a show kitchen.

A granite counter is a wonderful work surface. It
not only looks nice but also cleans up easily and is
resilient. It's very practical.

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> On 4/29/2014 12:13 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> And coincidently my daughter is planning to move so they're
>> house hunting... she discounted a lovely home on 10+ acres solely
>> because she said the appliances are kind of old, appliances are the
>> least important part of a house, in fact they are NOT part of a house,
>> appliances are the easiest (and least expensive) item to upgrade, and
>> typically the older appliances are made much better than the crap
>> produced today. It takes ten minutes to swap a fridge, not like
>> installing a replacement window. She wanted privacy so I found her
>> this:
>> http://www.weichert.com/41248902/

Weichert are a bunch of crooks. There was a whole show about them a
while back on "60 Minutes". They sold my house in NJ and were crooked
as can be about it. We had to hire an attorney. One of their agents
had her license pulled over their crap.
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On 4/29/2014 9:26 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/29/2014 7:01 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 07:11:45 -1000, dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/28/2014 3:59 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:31:14 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If I spent the money to upgrade to a French Door fridge I'd take it
>>>>> with
>>>>> me, not convey it with the house. That single appliance would not
>>>>> significantly increase the value of this place.
>>>>
>>>> Not increase the value per se, but it could be one of those little
>>>> things that makes someone decide to buy your home instead of another
>>>> one.
>>>
>>> It's not a good idea to buy a house based on appliances, flooring, or
>>> paint, but people will do that.
>>
>> They certainly do. The heating system and AC can be old and very
>> inefficient, but if you have granite counter tops, you have a sale.
>>
> I find the idea silly. I get a kick out of the (usually young) people
> on House Hunters who *have* to have granite countertops and stainless
> appliances. I guess if it's pretty nothing else matters.
>
> I hope they have money to replace the AC when it decides to crap out and
> it's 90° in the shade. Good luck sleeping on those pretty, albeit cool,
> granite counter tops. LOL
>
> Jill

The only thing my house did not have were a fireplace and granite
counter tops. It's impossible to get hardwood here so I bought a
chiminea for the screen porch.

The counter tops are black, speckled laminate that looks very much like
granite. The builder has the laminate wrapped around the back of the
counters to complete full backsplashes. It's very pretty, especially
since we keep it shiny and protected with Hope's countertop polish, but
it's not granite.

I thought about replacing the conter tops but full backsplashes and a
lot of feet of counter top would cost a fortune.

Since we hope to die in this house, selling it will be someone else's
problem.

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On 4/30/2014 12:02 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 4/29/2014 9:26 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/29/2014 7:01 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 07:11:45 -1000, dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's not a good idea to buy a house based on appliances, flooring, or
>>>> paint, but people will do that.
>>>
>>> They certainly do. The heating system and AC can be old and very
>>> inefficient, but if you have granite counter tops, you have a sale.
>>>
>> I find the idea silly. I get a kick out of the (usually young) people
>> on House Hunters who *have* to have granite countertops and stainless
>> appliances. I guess if it's pretty nothing else matters.
>>
>> I hope they have money to replace the AC when it decides to crap out and
>> it's 90° in the shade. Good luck sleeping on those pretty, albeit cool,
>> granite counter tops. LOL
>>
>> Jill
>
> The only thing my house did not have were a fireplace and granite
> counter tops. It's impossible to get hardwood here so I bought a
> chiminea for the screen porch.
>
My house has a fireplace. A gas fireplace which, according to my mother
(rest her soul) has never been used. Who needs a fireplace in southern
South Carolina? Or Texas? It's one of those "features" people look for
but most likely will never use.

I have a fire pit on my back patio. I get to use it a couple of times a
year.

> The counter tops are black, speckled laminate that looks very much like
> granite. The builder has the laminate wrapped around the back of the
> counters to complete full backsplashes. It's very pretty, especially
> since we keep it shiny and protected with Hope's countertop polish, but
> it's not granite.

It sounds nice. I have plain off-white laminate counters in the
kitchen. I'm not spending money to upgrade the kitchen.

Whoever buys this house will want to make it their own. If I put in
granite that I like chances are they'd want something different. They'd
rip it out and there goes my money down the drain. Same thing with
appliances. Why should I buy a new fridge just to entire a buyer?

> I thought about replacing the conter tops but full backsplashes and a
> lot of feet of counter top would cost a fortune.

It certainly wouldn't be cheap. Everyone has their own taste. Me, I go
with the credo if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Working appliances and
a decent work/prep surface. That's all I need.

> Since we hope to die in this house, selling it will be someone else's
> problem.
>
There ya go. But please, try not to die soon. And try not to hurt your
knee again.

Jill

On 4/30/2014 11:30 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/30/2014 12:02 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>> On 4/29/2014 9:26 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 4/29/2014 7:01 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 07:11:45 -1000, dsi1
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's not a good idea to buy a house based on appliances, flooring, or
>>>>> paint, but people will do that.
>>>>
>>>> They certainly do. The heating system and AC can be old and very
>>>> inefficient, but if you have granite counter tops, you have a sale.
>>>>
>>> I find the idea silly. I get a kick out of the (usually young) people
>>> on House Hunters who *have* to have granite countertops and stainless
>>> appliances. I guess if it's pretty nothing else matters.
>>>
>>> I hope they have money to replace the AC when it decides to crap out and
>>> it's 90° in the shade. Good luck sleeping on those pretty, albeit cool,
>>> granite counter tops. LOL
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> The only thing my house did not have were a fireplace and granite
>> counter tops. It's impossible to get hardwood here so I bought a
>> chiminea for the screen porch.
>>
> My house has a fireplace. A gas fireplace which, according to my mother
> (rest her soul) has never been used. Who needs a fireplace in southern
> South Carolina? Or Texas? It's one of those "features" people look for
> but most likely will never use.
>
> I have a fire pit on my back patio. I get to use it a couple of times a
> year.
>
>> The counter tops are black, speckled laminate that looks very much like
>> granite. The builder has the laminate wrapped around the back of the
>> counters to complete full backsplashes. It's very pretty, especially
>> since we keep it shiny and protected with Hope's countertop polish, but
>> it's not granite.
>
> It sounds nice. I have plain off-white laminate counters in the
> kitchen. I'm not spending money to upgrade the kitchen.
>
> Whoever buys this house will want to make it their own. If I put in
> granite that I like chances are they'd want something different. They'd
> rip it out and there goes my money down the drain. Same thing with
> appliances. Why should I buy a new fridge just to entire a buyer?
>
>> I thought about replacing the conter tops but full backsplashes and a
>> lot of feet of counter top would cost a fortune.
>
> It certainly wouldn't be cheap. Everyone has their own taste. Me, I go
> with the credo if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Working appliances and
> a decent work/prep surface. That's all I need.

Other than no granite, my kitchen is wonderful. Tons of storage,
drawers for pots and pans and other equipment, custom cabinets and tons
of work space.
>
>> Since we hope to die in this house, selling it will be someone else's
>> problem.
>>
> There ya go. But please, try not to die soon. And try not to hurt your
> knee again.
>

Thanks, Jill.


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On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 07:10:59 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> wrote:

> A granite counter is a wonderful work surface. It
> not only looks nice but also cleans up easily and is
> resilient. It's very practical.

Ditto and now that the patent has run out on the quartz counter
manufacturing machine, it's as inexpensive or even less than granite
these days. Only 5 years ago, quartz slabs cost multiple times as
much as a granite slab.


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On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 11:02:50 -0500, Janet Wilder >
wrote:

> I thought about replacing the conter tops but full backsplashes and a
> lot of feet of counter top would cost a fortune.

Actually it doesn't if you look at prefab slabs. The new/modern look
is a straight edge instead of Ogee, so they cost even less, and
installation should be very inexpensive considering the part of the
country you live in.


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On 4/30/2014 3:43 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 07:10:59 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> > wrote:
>
>> A granite counter is a wonderful work surface. It
>> not only looks nice but also cleans up easily and is
>> resilient. It's very practical.
>
> Ditto and now that the patent has run out on the quartz counter
> manufacturing machine, it's as inexpensive or even less than granite
> these days. Only 5 years ago, quartz slabs cost multiple times as
> much as a granite slab.

How interesting, thanks for that info.

nancy

On 4/30/2014 12:21 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 23:58:16 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> I'll never understand why fathers keep thinking of adult daughters as
>> little girls.
>
> Your daughter is still your little girl, no matter how old she is! My
> husband did that when our DD was house hunting too. IMO - it keeps
> the old man busy. DD's act appreciative and then buy what they want.
> Their money, their decision.
>
>
My daughter has always done her own thing aside from buying her first
car. I went with her for that. She was eady to sign, but we walked out
when the salesman would not budfge. She was upset but I took her to
another dealer and saved $600 in minutes. After that, she was a tough
negotiator.

She bought a couple of houses on her own too.