On 5/6/2014 1:01 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/6/2014 10:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> A few years back a woman I know in England (from another ng) was in
>>> the hospital for a period of time. A friend was cat-sitting for her
>>> two cats. One of her cats was elderly but under a vets care. One day
>>> the cat was out for a stroll. Some woman saw the cat and assumed it
>>> was a stray. She picked it up and took it to the RSPCA. Without even
>>> attempting to find out whether or not the cat had a home, they
>>> euthanized it.
>>>
>>> Imagine coming home to that. IIRC it took quite a while for her to
>>> find out what happened to her cat.
>>
>> A year or so ago in my area, a family's cat ran away from its home. The
>> family searched to no avail. Several weeks later they discovered on an
>> online bulletin board that their cat had been found and given to a
>> no-kill
>> shelter in a nearby town. They called the shelter, described their
>> cat and
>> the shelter confirmed its distinctive meow. But they refused to give
>> the
>> family their cat back. They refused to let the family _adopt_ their cat
>> back, even when the family offered to pay the adoption fee. Instead,
>> they
>> placed it with another person. The shelter told the press that it
>> was the
>> family's fault for letting their cat run, and they had absolutely no
>> intention of telling the family where their cat was now living.
>
> That sounds like theft! How dare they refuse to give her property
> back to here (because leaving aside the affection, that is how it
> would probably be seen in law!
>

Turns out the law here says that after holding an animal for five
days, animal impound facilities are free to dispose of pets as they
please. The shelter said they had the cat for over two weeks. So they
had the legal right to hand off the cat to whomever they chose, and
they were quite obnoxiously adamant in their opinion of the cat's
original family unfitness to own a pet (because the cat wasn't
neutered, wasn't chipped, wasn't collared, and was found straying).

"Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/6/2014 1:01 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/6/2014 10:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> A few years back a woman I know in England (from another ng) was in
>>>> the hospital for a period of time. A friend was cat-sitting for her
>>>> two cats. One of her cats was elderly but under a vets care. One day
>>>> the cat was out for a stroll. Some woman saw the cat and assumed it
>>>> was a stray. She picked it up and took it to the RSPCA. Without even
>>>> attempting to find out whether or not the cat had a home, they
>>>> euthanized it.
>>>>
>>>> Imagine coming home to that. IIRC it took quite a while for her to
>>>> find out what happened to her cat.
>>>
>>> A year or so ago in my area, a family's cat ran away from its home. The
>>> family searched to no avail. Several weeks later they discovered on an
>>> online bulletin board that their cat had been found and given to a
>>> no-kill
>>> shelter in a nearby town. They called the shelter, described their
>>> cat and
>>> the shelter confirmed its distinctive meow. But they refused to give
>>> the
>>> family their cat back. They refused to let the family _adopt_ their cat
>>> back, even when the family offered to pay the adoption fee. Instead,
>>> they
>>> placed it with another person. The shelter told the press that it
>>> was the
>>> family's fault for letting their cat run, and they had absolutely no
>>> intention of telling the family where their cat was now living.
>>
>> That sounds like theft! How dare they refuse to give her property
>> back to here (because leaving aside the affection, that is how it
>> would probably be seen in law!
>>
>
> Turns out the law here says that after holding an animal for five days,
> animal impound facilities are free to dispose of pets as they please. The
> shelter said they had the cat for over two weeks. So they had the legal
> right to hand off the cat to whomever they chose, and they were quite
> obnoxiously adamant in their opinion of the cat's original family
> unfitness to own a pet (because the cat wasn't neutered, wasn't chipped,
> wasn't collared, and was found straying).

I agree 100%, love your pets, give them what they need, or let somebody who
will do the right thing, do the right thing.

Cheri

"Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/6/2014 1:01 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/6/2014 10:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> A few years back a woman I know in England (from another ng) was in
>>>> the hospital for a period of time. A friend was cat-sitting for her
>>>> two cats. One of her cats was elderly but under a vets care. One day
>>>> the cat was out for a stroll. Some woman saw the cat and assumed it
>>>> was a stray. She picked it up and took it to the RSPCA. Without even
>>>> attempting to find out whether or not the cat had a home, they
>>>> euthanized it.
>>>>
>>>> Imagine coming home to that. IIRC it took quite a while for her to
>>>> find out what happened to her cat.
>>>
>>> A year or so ago in my area, a family's cat ran away from its home. The
>>> family searched to no avail. Several weeks later they discovered on an
>>> online bulletin board that their cat had been found and given to a
>>> no-kill
>>> shelter in a nearby town. They called the shelter, described their
>>> cat and
>>> the shelter confirmed its distinctive meow. But they refused to give
>>> the
>>> family their cat back. They refused to let the family _adopt_ their cat
>>> back, even when the family offered to pay the adoption fee. Instead,
>>> they
>>> placed it with another person. The shelter told the press that it
>>> was the
>>> family's fault for letting their cat run, and they had absolutely no
>>> intention of telling the family where their cat was now living.
>>
>> That sounds like theft! How dare they refuse to give her property
>> back to here (because leaving aside the affection, that is how it
>> would probably be seen in law!
>>
>
> Turns out the law here says that after holding an animal for five days,
> animal impound facilities are free to dispose of pets as they please. The
> shelter said they had the cat for over two weeks. So they had the legal
> right to hand off the cat to whomever they chose, and they were quite
> obnoxiously adamant in their opinion of the cat's original family
> unfitness to own a pet (because the cat wasn't neutered, wasn't chipped,
> wasn't collared, and was found straying).

Oh dear

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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/6/2014 1:01 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 5/6/2014 10:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A few years back a woman I know in England (from another ng) was in
>>>>> the hospital for a period of time. A friend was cat-sitting for her
>>>>> two cats. One of her cats was elderly but under a vets care. One day
>>>>> the cat was out for a stroll. Some woman saw the cat and assumed it
>>>>> was a stray. She picked it up and took it to the RSPCA. Without even
>>>>> attempting to find out whether or not the cat had a home, they
>>>>> euthanized it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Imagine coming home to that. IIRC it took quite a while for her to
>>>>> find out what happened to her cat.
>>>>
>>>> A year or so ago in my area, a family's cat ran away from its home. The
>>>> family searched to no avail. Several weeks later they discovered on an
>>>> online bulletin board that their cat had been found and given to a
>>>> no-kill
>>>> shelter in a nearby town. They called the shelter, described their
>>>> cat and
>>>> the shelter confirmed its distinctive meow. But they refused to give
>>>> the
>>>> family their cat back. They refused to let the family _adopt_ their cat
>>>> back, even when the family offered to pay the adoption fee. Instead,
>>>> they
>>>> placed it with another person. The shelter told the press that it
>>>> was the
>>>> family's fault for letting their cat run, and they had absolutely no
>>>> intention of telling the family where their cat was now living.
>>>
>>> That sounds like theft! How dare they refuse to give her property
>>> back to here (because leaving aside the affection, that is how it
>>> would probably be seen in law!
>>>
>>
>> Turns out the law here says that after holding an animal for five days,
>> animal impound facilities are free to dispose of pets as they please. The
>> shelter said they had the cat for over two weeks. So they had the legal
>> right to hand off the cat to whomever they chose, and they were quite
>> obnoxiously adamant in their opinion of the cat's original family
>> unfitness to own a pet (because the cat wasn't neutered, wasn't chipped,
>> wasn't collared, and was found straying).
>
> I agree 100%, love your pets, give them what they need, or let somebody
> who will do the right thing, do the right thing.

Yes, pets must be loved and cared for, but I suppose the family wouldn't
have been searching for it had they not cared


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On 5/6/2014 1:57 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/6/2014 1:01 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 5/6/2014 10:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A few years back a woman I know in England (from another ng) was in
>>>>> the hospital for a period of time. A friend was cat-sitting for her
>>>>> two cats. One of her cats was elderly but under a vets care.
>>>>> One day
>>>>> the cat was out for a stroll. Some woman saw the cat and assumed it
>>>>> was a stray. She picked it up and took it to the RSPCA. Without
>>>>> even
>>>>> attempting to find out whether or not the cat had a home, they
>>>>> euthanized it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Imagine coming home to that. IIRC it took quite a while for her to
>>>>> find out what happened to her cat.
>>>>
>>>> A year or so ago in my area, a family's cat ran away from its
>>>> home. The
>>>> family searched to no avail. Several weeks later they discovered
>>>> on an
>>>> online bulletin board that their cat had been found and given to a
>>>> no-kill
>>>> shelter in a nearby town. They called the shelter, described their
>>>> cat and
>>>> the shelter confirmed its distinctive meow. But they refused to give
>>>> the
>>>> family their cat back. They refused to let the family _adopt_
>>>> their cat
>>>> back, even when the family offered to pay the adoption fee. Instead,
>>>> they
>>>> placed it with another person. The shelter told the press that it
>>>> was the
>>>> family's fault for letting their cat run, and they had absolutely no
>>>> intention of telling the family where their cat was now living.
>>>
>>> That sounds like theft! How dare they refuse to give her property
>>> back to here (because leaving aside the affection, that is how it
>>> would probably be seen in law!
>>>
>>
>> Turns out the law here says that after holding an animal for five
>> days, animal impound facilities are free to dispose of pets as they
>> please. The shelter said they had the cat for over two weeks. So
>> they had the legal right to hand off the cat to whomever they chose,
>> and they were quite obnoxiously adamant in their opinion of the
>> cat's original family unfitness to own a pet (because the cat wasn't
>> neutered, wasn't chipped, wasn't collared, and was found straying).
>
> I agree 100%, love your pets, give them what they need, or let
> somebody who will do the right thing, do the right thing.

The family claimed the cat was collared, but it had a habit of
slipping its collar, and it had escaped outdoors. As for being
unneutered, they said they just hadn't taken it to the vet to be fixed
yet.

A place I used to work at was a warehouse on the edge of a residential
neighborhood. One spring we had a problem with a neighbor's cat. It
had a collar, but no tag. It was very, very sociable - so much so, it
kept sneaking into the business and ending up getting locked in
overnight. I wrote a note and taped it to her collar, asking her
owners to take better care of her. After all, she could've gotten
injured or poisoned in the warehouse. Nothing changed. Then one day
she came into the store but was limping and shying away from everyone.
She had a couple of good-sized wounds that were infected. I had my
sisters come pick her up and take her to my vet, whom I'd phoned and
assured I would pay for the kitty's care. The vet said she'd been
attacked by another, larger animal, and the wounds hadn't been
treated, so they got infected.

She stayed with me till she healed up, then I gave her away to a very
good home. She lived a very long and pampered life, and I'd visit her
occasionally.

Oh, yeah - several days after she'd showed up injured at the
warehouse, a woman came asking about her. The owner told her the cat
had been badly injured and an employee took the cat to the vet and
then gave it away. She begged for the return of her cat. She said her
kid was crying for it. The owner said they weren't crying after the
cat had been injured and the wounds got infected, so they didn't
deserve to keep it. And good day to _you_, madam.

"Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/6/2014 1:57 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/6/2014 1:01 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 5/6/2014 10:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A few years back a woman I know in England (from another ng) was in
>>>>>> the hospital for a period of time. A friend was cat-sitting for her
>>>>>> two cats. One of her cats was elderly but under a vets care.
>>>>>> One day
>>>>>> the cat was out for a stroll. Some woman saw the cat and assumed it
>>>>>> was a stray. She picked it up and took it to the RSPCA. Without
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> attempting to find out whether or not the cat had a home, they
>>>>>> euthanized it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Imagine coming home to that. IIRC it took quite a while for her to
>>>>>> find out what happened to her cat.
>>>>>
>>>>> A year or so ago in my area, a family's cat ran away from its
>>>>> home. The
>>>>> family searched to no avail. Several weeks later they discovered
>>>>> on an
>>>>> online bulletin board that their cat had been found and given to a
>>>>> no-kill
>>>>> shelter in a nearby town. They called the shelter, described their
>>>>> cat and
>>>>> the shelter confirmed its distinctive meow. But they refused to give
>>>>> the
>>>>> family their cat back. They refused to let the family _adopt_
>>>>> their cat
>>>>> back, even when the family offered to pay the adoption fee. Instead,
>>>>> they
>>>>> placed it with another person. The shelter told the press that it
>>>>> was the
>>>>> family's fault for letting their cat run, and they had absolutely no
>>>>> intention of telling the family where their cat was now living.
>>>>
>>>> That sounds like theft! How dare they refuse to give her property
>>>> back to here (because leaving aside the affection, that is how it
>>>> would probably be seen in law!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Turns out the law here says that after holding an animal for five
>>> days, animal impound facilities are free to dispose of pets as they
>>> please. The shelter said they had the cat for over two weeks. So
>>> they had the legal right to hand off the cat to whomever they chose,
>>> and they were quite obnoxiously adamant in their opinion of the
>>> cat's original family unfitness to own a pet (because the cat wasn't
>>> neutered, wasn't chipped, wasn't collared, and was found straying).
>>
>> I agree 100%, love your pets, give them what they need, or let
>> somebody who will do the right thing, do the right thing.
>
> The family claimed the cat was collared, but it had a habit of slipping
> its collar, and it had escaped outdoors. As for being unneutered, they
> said they just hadn't taken it to the vet to be fixed yet.
>
> A place I used to work at was a warehouse on the edge of a residential
> neighborhood. One spring we had a problem with a neighbor's cat. It had a
> collar, but no tag. It was very, very sociable - so much so, it kept
> sneaking into the business and ending up getting locked in overnight. I
> wrote a note and taped it to her collar, asking her owners to take better
> care of her. After all, she could've gotten injured or poisoned in the
> warehouse. Nothing changed. Then one day she came into the store but was
> limping and shying away from everyone. She had a couple of good-sized
> wounds that were infected. I had my sisters come pick her up and take her
> to my vet, whom I'd phoned and assured I would pay for the kitty's care.
> The vet said she'd been attacked by another, larger animal, and the wounds
> hadn't been treated, so they got infected.
>
> She stayed with me till she healed up, then I gave her away to a very good
> home. She lived a very long and pampered life, and I'd visit her
> occasionally.
>
> Oh, yeah - several days after she'd showed up injured at the warehouse, a
> woman came asking about her. The owner told her the cat had been badly
> injured and an employee took the cat to the vet and then gave it away. She
> begged for the return of her cat. She said her kid was crying for it. The
> owner said they weren't crying after the cat had been injured and the
> wounds got infected, so they didn't deserve to keep it. And good day to
> _you_, madam.

Yes, I would want to remove an animal that was injured and uncared for.
Was that the case with the cat that was given away by the animal centre?

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On 5/6/2014 2:49 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/6/2014 1:57 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 5/6/2014 1:01 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 5/6/2014 10:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A few years back a woman I know in England (from another ng)
>>>>>>> was in
>>>>>>> the hospital for a period of time. A friend was cat-sitting
>>>>>>> for her
>>>>>>> two cats. One of her cats was elderly but under a vets care.
>>>>>>> One day
>>>>>>> the cat was out for a stroll. Some woman saw the cat and
>>>>>>> assumed it
>>>>>>> was a stray. She picked it up and took it to the RSPCA. Without
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> attempting to find out whether or not the cat had a home, they
>>>>>>> euthanized it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Imagine coming home to that. IIRC it took quite a while for
>>>>>>> her to
>>>>>>> find out what happened to her cat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A year or so ago in my area, a family's cat ran away from its
>>>>>> home. The
>>>>>> family searched to no avail. Several weeks later they discovered
>>>>>> on an
>>>>>> online bulletin board that their cat had been found and given to a
>>>>>> no-kill
>>>>>> shelter in a nearby town. They called the shelter, described their
>>>>>> cat and
>>>>>> the shelter confirmed its distinctive meow. But they refused to
>>>>>> give
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> family their cat back. They refused to let the family _adopt_
>>>>>> their cat
>>>>>> back, even when the family offered to pay the adoption fee.
>>>>>> Instead,
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> placed it with another person. The shelter told the press that it
>>>>>> was the
>>>>>> family's fault for letting their cat run, and they had
>>>>>> absolutely no
>>>>>> intention of telling the family where their cat was now living.
>>>>>
>>>>> That sounds like theft! How dare they refuse to give her property
>>>>> back to here (because leaving aside the affection, that is how it
>>>>> would probably be seen in law!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Turns out the law here says that after holding an animal for five
>>>> days, animal impound facilities are free to dispose of pets as they
>>>> please. The shelter said they had the cat for over two weeks. So
>>>> they had the legal right to hand off the cat to whomever they chose,
>>>> and they were quite obnoxiously adamant in their opinion of the
>>>> cat's original family unfitness to own a pet (because the cat wasn't
>>>> neutered, wasn't chipped, wasn't collared, and was found straying).
>>>
>>> I agree 100%, love your pets, give them what they need, or let
>>> somebody who will do the right thing, do the right thing.
>>
>> The family claimed the cat was collared, but it had a habit of
>> slipping its collar, and it had escaped outdoors. As for being
>> unneutered, they said they just hadn't taken it to the vet to be
>> fixed yet.
>>
>> A place I used to work at was a warehouse on the edge of a
>> residential neighborhood. One spring we had a problem with a
>> neighbor's cat. It had a collar, but no tag. It was very, very
>> sociable - so much so, it kept sneaking into the business and ending
>> up getting locked in overnight. I wrote a note and taped it to her
>> collar, asking her owners to take better care of her. After all, she
>> could've gotten injured or poisoned in the warehouse. Nothing
>> changed. Then one day she came into the store but was limping and
>> shying away from everyone. She had a couple of good-sized wounds
>> that were infected. I had my sisters come pick her up and take her
>> to my vet, whom I'd phoned and assured I would pay for the kitty's
>> care. The vet said she'd been attacked by another, larger animal,
>> and the wounds hadn't been treated, so they got infected.
>>
>> She stayed with me till she healed up, then I gave her away to a
>> very good home. She lived a very long and pampered life, and I'd
>> visit her occasionally.
>>
>> Oh, yeah - several days after she'd showed up injured at the
>> warehouse, a woman came asking about her. The owner told her the cat
>> had been badly injured and an employee took the cat to the vet and
>> then gave it away. She begged for the return of her cat. She said
>> her kid was crying for it. The owner said they weren't crying after
>> the cat had been injured and the wounds got infected, so they didn't
>> deserve to keep it. And good day to _you_, madam.
>
> Yes, I would want to remove an animal that was injured and uncared
> for. Was that the case with the cat that was given away by the animal
> centre?
>

The shelter said the cat had been brought in by a man who'd found the
cat hanging around his house for the past several days. The shelter
said the cat was in 'terrible condition', but did not elaborate. In
fact, they hung up on the reporter who called them in an attempt to
mediate the dispute and hopefully get the family's cat back. (It's one
of those newspaper columns where people having a problem with a local
business ask the columnist to intervene on their behalf.)

"Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/6/2014 2:49 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/6/2014 1:57 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 5/6/2014 1:01 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On 5/6/2014 10:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A few years back a woman I know in England (from another ng)
>>>>>>>> was in
>>>>>>>> the hospital for a period of time. A friend was cat-sitting
>>>>>>>> for her
>>>>>>>> two cats. One of her cats was elderly but under a vets care.
>>>>>>>> One day
>>>>>>>> the cat was out for a stroll. Some woman saw the cat and
>>>>>>>> assumed it
>>>>>>>> was a stray. She picked it up and took it to the RSPCA. Without
>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>> attempting to find out whether or not the cat had a home, they
>>>>>>>> euthanized it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Imagine coming home to that. IIRC it took quite a while for
>>>>>>>> her to
>>>>>>>> find out what happened to her cat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A year or so ago in my area, a family's cat ran away from its
>>>>>>> home. The
>>>>>>> family searched to no avail. Several weeks later they discovered
>>>>>>> on an
>>>>>>> online bulletin board that their cat had been found and given to a
>>>>>>> no-kill
>>>>>>> shelter in a nearby town. They called the shelter, described their
>>>>>>> cat and
>>>>>>> the shelter confirmed its distinctive meow. But they refused to
>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> family their cat back. They refused to let the family _adopt_
>>>>>>> their cat
>>>>>>> back, even when the family offered to pay the adoption fee.
>>>>>>> Instead,
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> placed it with another person. The shelter told the press that it
>>>>>>> was the
>>>>>>> family's fault for letting their cat run, and they had
>>>>>>> absolutely no
>>>>>>> intention of telling the family where their cat was now living.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That sounds like theft! How dare they refuse to give her property
>>>>>> back to here (because leaving aside the affection, that is how it
>>>>>> would probably be seen in law!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Turns out the law here says that after holding an animal for five
>>>>> days, animal impound facilities are free to dispose of pets as they
>>>>> please. The shelter said they had the cat for over two weeks. So
>>>>> they had the legal right to hand off the cat to whomever they chose,
>>>>> and they were quite obnoxiously adamant in their opinion of the
>>>>> cat's original family unfitness to own a pet (because the cat wasn't
>>>>> neutered, wasn't chipped, wasn't collared, and was found straying).
>>>>
>>>> I agree 100%, love your pets, give them what they need, or let
>>>> somebody who will do the right thing, do the right thing.
>>>
>>> The family claimed the cat was collared, but it had a habit of
>>> slipping its collar, and it had escaped outdoors. As for being
>>> unneutered, they said they just hadn't taken it to the vet to be
>>> fixed yet.
>>>
>>> A place I used to work at was a warehouse on the edge of a
>>> residential neighborhood. One spring we had a problem with a
>>> neighbor's cat. It had a collar, but no tag. It was very, very
>>> sociable - so much so, it kept sneaking into the business and ending
>>> up getting locked in overnight. I wrote a note and taped it to her
>>> collar, asking her owners to take better care of her. After all, she
>>> could've gotten injured or poisoned in the warehouse. Nothing
>>> changed. Then one day she came into the store but was limping and
>>> shying away from everyone. She had a couple of good-sized wounds
>>> that were infected. I had my sisters come pick her up and take her
>>> to my vet, whom I'd phoned and assured I would pay for the kitty's
>>> care. The vet said she'd been attacked by another, larger animal,
>>> and the wounds hadn't been treated, so they got infected.
>>>
>>> She stayed with me till she healed up, then I gave her away to a
>>> very good home. She lived a very long and pampered life, and I'd
>>> visit her occasionally.
>>>
>>> Oh, yeah - several days after she'd showed up injured at the
>>> warehouse, a woman came asking about her. The owner told her the cat
>>> had been badly injured and an employee took the cat to the vet and
>>> then gave it away. She begged for the return of her cat. She said
>>> her kid was crying for it. The owner said they weren't crying after
>>> the cat had been injured and the wounds got infected, so they didn't
>>> deserve to keep it. And good day to _you_, madam.
>>
>> Yes, I would want to remove an animal that was injured and uncared
>> for. Was that the case with the cat that was given away by the animal
>> centre?
>>
>
> The shelter said the cat had been brought in by a man who'd found the cat
> hanging around his house for the past several days. The shelter said the
> cat was in 'terrible condition', but did not elaborate. In fact, they hung
> up on the reporter who called them in an attempt to mediate the dispute
> and hopefully get the family's cat back. (It's one of those newspaper
> columns where people having a problem with a local business ask the
> columnist to intervene on their behalf.)

I guess they must have cared then. How awful for everyone concerned. I
have no experience with cats (I am allergic to their dander) but I believe
that many are allowed out at night to wander? I know my dog doesn't go
anywhere without me.

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On Tue, 06 May 2014 11:50:38 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
wrote:

>On 5/6/2014 10:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> A few years back a woman I know in England (from another ng) was in
>> the hospital for a period of time. A friend was cat-sitting for her
>> two cats. One of her cats was elderly but under a vets care. One day
>> the cat was out for a stroll. Some woman saw the cat and assumed it
>> was a stray. She picked it up and took it to the RSPCA. Without even
>> attempting to find out whether or not the cat had a home, they
>> euthanized it.
>>
>> Imagine coming home to that. IIRC it took quite a while for her to
>> find out what happened to her cat.
>
>A year or so ago in my area, a family's cat ran away from its home.
>The family searched to no avail. Several weeks later they discovered
>on an online bulletin board that their cat had been found and given to
>a no-kill shelter in a nearby town. They called the shelter, described
>their cat and the shelter confirmed its distinctive meow. But they
>refused to give the family their cat back. They refused to let the
>family _adopt_ their cat back, even when the family offered to pay the
>adoption fee. Instead, they placed it with another person. The shelter
>told the press that it was the family's fault for letting their cat
>run, and they had absolutely no intention of telling the family where
>their cat was now living.

I'd like them to try that on me with my girls. Seriously.
That is truly appalling.

On Tue, 6 May 2014 11:57:24 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
...
>> On 5/6/2014 1:01 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 5/6/2014 10:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A few years back a woman I know in England (from another ng) was in
>>>>> the hospital for a period of time. A friend was cat-sitting for her
>>>>> two cats. One of her cats was elderly but under a vets care. One day
>>>>> the cat was out for a stroll. Some woman saw the cat and assumed it
>>>>> was a stray. She picked it up and took it to the RSPCA. Without even
>>>>> attempting to find out whether or not the cat had a home, they
>>>>> euthanized it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Imagine coming home to that. IIRC it took quite a while for her to
>>>>> find out what happened to her cat.
>>>>
>>>> A year or so ago in my area, a family's cat ran away from its home. The
>>>> family searched to no avail. Several weeks later they discovered on an
>>>> online bulletin board that their cat had been found and given to a
>>>> no-kill
>>>> shelter in a nearby town. They called the shelter, described their
>>>> cat and
>>>> the shelter confirmed its distinctive meow. But they refused to give
>>>> the
>>>> family their cat back. They refused to let the family _adopt_ their cat
>>>> back, even when the family offered to pay the adoption fee. Instead,
>>>> they
>>>> placed it with another person. The shelter told the press that it
>>>> was the
>>>> family's fault for letting their cat run, and they had absolutely no
>>>> intention of telling the family where their cat was now living.
>>>
>>> That sounds like theft! How dare they refuse to give her property
>>> back to here (because leaving aside the affection, that is how it
>>> would probably be seen in law!
>>>
>>
>> Turns out the law here says that after holding an animal for five days,
>> animal impound facilities are free to dispose of pets as they please. The
>> shelter said they had the cat for over two weeks. So they had the legal
>> right to hand off the cat to whomever they chose, and they were quite
>> obnoxiously adamant in their opinion of the cat's original family
>> unfitness to own a pet (because the cat wasn't neutered, wasn't chipped,
>> wasn't collared, and was found straying).
>
>I agree 100%, love your pets, give them what they need, or let somebody who
>will do the right thing, do the right thing.

I don't think Moe was agreeing with their POV.

On 2014-05-06 3:35 PM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:

> The family claimed the cat was collared, but it had a habit of slipping
> its collar, and it had escaped outdoors. As for being unneutered, they
> said they just hadn't taken it to the vet to be fixed yet.
>

Shit happens. My dog has slipped his regular collar and got free. He has
also broken choke chains and spiked training collars. It all happened
within one week. First it was the choke chain, then a training collar
and then a second training collar. The first time I was talking to my
neighbour with the dog on a leash. Another neighbour came by walking her
two dogs. Sonny barked, reared, leapt, and I was standing there holding
a leash and a broken choke chain.

Most of the people who I have dealt with at the local Humane Societies
are morons. One of them comes around to sell license... so I had to
start buying them. Then there is the woman around the corner who worked
there and was admiring my dog and asked what breed he was. The dog was a
pure bred Labrador Retriever. We had had a Bouvier des Flandres, a
Groenendahl and Malinois. I can understand people not identifying those
breeds, but Labs are the single most popular dog in North America. I
don't know how someone could work with dogs and cats and not recognize a
Lab.

On Tue, 06 May 2014 18:02:36 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:


>I don't know how someone could work with dogs and cats and not recognize a
>Lab.

I guess those types of people are in denial about how evil cats and
dogs can be. Meth labs are spreading like a virus everywhere.

http://memearchive.net/memerial.net/1256/meth-lab.jpg

On 5/6/2014 11:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> Thank you but today is not a good day When she needs to go out she
> has to be on her lead very slowly for obvious reasons but today, she
> heard a dog, twisted sharply and cried out. She is in pain and I am
> terrified she has damaged the leg. She had surgery where a cut was made
> into the bone and a titanium wedge inserted. The bone can grow through
> it given time all because it is not possible to sew together the
> ligament. She is looking very sorry for herself and is resting on her
> favourite rug. If she is not brighter tomorrow we will need to take her
> back to see the vet and get another x-ray to check it out.

Oh no, poor Bonnie. Wishing you luck on her future vet visit, I hope
they can help. This is rough on you, too.

Becca

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/6/2014 11:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> Thank you but today is not a good day When she needs to go out she
>> has to be on her lead very slowly for obvious reasons but today, she
>> heard a dog, twisted sharply and cried out. She is in pain and I am
>> terrified she has damaged the leg. She had surgery where a cut was made
>> into the bone and a titanium wedge inserted. The bone can grow through
>> it given time all because it is not possible to sew together the
>> ligament. She is looking very sorry for herself and is resting on her
>> favourite rug. If she is not brighter tomorrow we will need to take her
>> back to see the vet and get another x-ray to check it out.
>
> Oh no, poor Bonnie. Wishing you luck on her future vet visit, I hope they
> can help. This is rough on you, too.

Thanks very much, Becca! She is booked in for this afternoon. She is
starting to look a wee bit brighter but is still keeping all pressure off
that leg so I don't want to take any chances.


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In article >,
says...
>
> On Tue, 6 May 2014 12:48:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > > Conversely, I do not like the RSPCA here either, because they have
> > > become bureaucratic, corporate, money-hungry and frequently cause good
> > > people unnecessary (and unwarranted) problems.
> > > And, like PETA, the RSPCA is /very/ good at putting animals down.
> >
> > There too eh? I wouldn't touch RSPCA with a bargepole! The money they take
> > in for caring for animals is instead used widely for prosecuting people.
> > They also put animals down. They won't get a penny of mine.
>
> Funny, I've never thought of PETA as an animal shelter. They are
> animal activists, not pet babysitters. The SF SPCA is a no-kill
> shelter, so I guess it's completely different from your RSPCA.
> http://www.sfspca.org/about-us/presi...essage/no-kill

Don't be misled. The RSPCA "caring for animals" role is very much
larger than rehoming unwanted pets; the national body of the charity
funds the designation accreditation and inspection of farmed livestock
welfare standards (it runs one of the major welfare-farmed food
labelling systems in the UK) , the police-accredited inspection of
wildlife, farm and pet animal cruelty cases, and the prosecution of
offenders. Their mission statement is here

http://www.rspca.org.uk/in-
action/aboutus/mission/-/article/EM_Our_mission_new

If it wasn't for the RSPCA's role in welfare-inspection and legal
prosecution of cruelty cases, even more animals would be fatally
neglected or injured.

One reason RSPCA employs euthanasia is because of that very wide
remit. They are responsible for categories of animal that many
companion-animal charities won't accept. These include, injured
wildlife, non-surviveable injury/neglect of livestock and pets,
dangerous dogs, and mass confiscations.

http://www.rspca-bristol.org.uk/news...nasia_rumours/

Janet UK

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/6/2014 11:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you but today is not a good day When she needs to go out she
>>> has to be on her lead very slowly for obvious reasons but today, she
>>> heard a dog, twisted sharply and cried out. She is in pain and I am
>>> terrified she has damaged the leg. She had surgery where a cut was made
>>> into the bone and a titanium wedge inserted. The bone can grow through
>>> it given time all because it is not possible to sew together the
>>> ligament. She is looking very sorry for herself and is resting on her
>>> favourite rug. If she is not brighter tomorrow we will need to take her
>>> back to see the vet and get another x-ray to check it out.
>>
>> Oh no, poor Bonnie. Wishing you luck on her future vet visit, I hope they
>> can help. This is rough on you, too.
>
> Thanks very much, Becca! She is booked in for this afternoon. She is
> starting to look a wee bit brighter but is still keeping all pressure off
> that leg so I don't want to take any chances.

Just an update! She has some small fractures in that leg, but the vet says
he doesn't need to do anything! She just needs to rest until it all heals
She is back on her favourite rug and is very quiet, but she is home!! )))

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On Wed, 7 May 2014 19:44:19 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> Thanks very much, Becca! She is booked in for this afternoon. She is
>> starting to look a wee bit brighter but is still keeping all pressure off
>> that leg so I don't want to take any chances.
>
>Just an update! She has some small fractures in that leg, but the vet says
>he doesn't need to do anything! She just needs to rest until it all heals
>She is back on her favourite rug and is very quiet, but she is home!! )))

Yay!

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 7 May 2014 19:44:19 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>> Thanks very much, Becca! She is booked in for this afternoon. She is
>>> starting to look a wee bit brighter but is still keeping all pressure
>>> off
>>> that leg so I don't want to take any chances.
>>
>>Just an update! She has some small fractures in that leg, but the vet
>>says
>>he doesn't need to do anything! She just needs to rest until it all
>>heals
>>She is back on her favourite rug and is very quiet, but she is home!!
>>)))
>
> Yay!

Yay indeed) She is gnawing on a large shank bone even as I type ))

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On Thu, 8 May 2014 11:16:12 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 7 May 2014 19:44:19 +0100, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much, Becca! She is booked in for this afternoon. She is
>>>> starting to look a wee bit brighter but is still keeping all pressure
>>>> off
>>>> that leg so I don't want to take any chances.
>>>
>>>Just an update! She has some small fractures in that leg, but the vet
>>>says
>>>he doesn't need to do anything! She just needs to rest until it all
>>>heals
>>>She is back on her favourite rug and is very quiet, but she is home!!
>>>)))
>>
>> Yay!
>
>Yay indeed) She is gnawing on a large shank bone even as I type ))

Nom nom nom...

On 5/7/2014 1:44 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> Just an update! She has some small fractures in that leg, but the vet
> says he doesn't need to do anything! She just needs to rest until it
> all heals She is back on her favourite rug and is very quiet, but she
> is home!! )))
>

This is great news, I hope Bonnie's leg heals speedy quick.

Becca

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/7/2014 1:44 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> Just an update! She has some small fractures in that leg, but the vet
>> says he doesn't need to do anything! She just needs to rest until it
>> all heals She is back on her favourite rug and is very quiet, but she
>> is home!! )))
>>
>
> This is great news, I hope Bonnie's leg heals speedy quick.

Thanks, Becca You are very kind




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