PETA’s bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied

Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.

Updated 10 minutes ago

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — An animal rights activist's request to install a
roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
truck crash has been denied.

The Utah Department of Transportation on Friday rejected the request
made by Amy Meyer of Salt Lake City on behalf of People for the Ethical
Treatment of Animals, saying it didn't meet the agency's policy standards.

The memorials allow grieving families to memorialize loved ones who die
in highway crashes.

KSL reports (http://bit.ly/1nUb6UN ) Meyers argued the condition should
be overlooked because turkeys in the factory-farming industry have no
living relatives. She proposed that PETA's memorial urge people to "try
vegan."

A truck hauling 720 turkeys crashed April 24 on a highway northeast of
Provo, killing all but about two dozen of the birds.

___

Information from: KSL-TV, http://www.ksl.com/

On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
> wrote:

>PETA’s bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
>
>Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.
>
>Updated 10 minutes ago
>
>SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — An animal rights activist's request to install a
>roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
>truck crash has been denied.

This is surely a joke.

On 5/3/2014 7:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
> > wrote:
>
>> PETA’s bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
>>
>> Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.
>>
>> Updated 10 minutes ago
>>
>> SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — An animal rights activist's request to install a
>> roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
>> truck crash has been denied.
>
> This is surely a joke.
>
>

This has been going on for some time, and it isn't a joke.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014...n-utah-denied/

On 5/3/2014 7:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
> > wrote:
>
>> PETA’s bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
>>
>> Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.
>>
>> Updated 10 minutes ago
>>
>> SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — An animal rights activist's request to install a
>> roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
>> truck crash has been denied.
>
> This is surely a joke.
>
>
Where PETA is involved, nothing surprises me.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/3/2014 7:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> PETA’s bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
>>>
>>> Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.
>>>
>>> Updated 10 minutes ago
>>>
>>> SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — An animal rights activist's request to install a
>>> roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
>>> truck crash has been denied.
>>
>> This is surely a joke.
>>
>>
> Where PETA is involved, nothing surprises me.
>
> Jill

Me either.

Cheri

On 2014-05-03, Jeßus > wrote:

> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee

>>roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
>>truck crash has been denied.

> This is surely a joke.

No, jes another lame news blurb to distract yer attention away from
the serious news.

nb

On 5/3/2014 6:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
> > wrote:
>
>> PETA’s bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
>>
>> Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.
>>
>> Updated 10 minutes ago
>>
>> SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — An animal rights activist's request to install a
>> roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
>> truck crash has been denied.
>
> This is surely a joke.

How can it be a joke? Wasn't it well documented in The Onion?

--
DreadfulBitch

There is no love more sincere than the love of food.
....George Bernard Shaw

On 5/3/2014 9:04 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
> On 5/3/2014 6:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> PETA’s bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
>>>
>>> Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.
>>>
>>> Updated 10 minutes ago
>>>
>>> SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — An animal rights activist's request to install a
>>> roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
>>> truck crash has been denied.
>>
>> This is surely a joke.
>
> How can it be a joke? Wasn't it well documented in The Onion?
>

And don't call me "Shirley"...

On 5/3/2014 9:12 PM, Travis McGee wrote:
> On 5/3/2014 9:04 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
>> On 5/3/2014 6:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> PETA’s bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
>>>>
>>>> Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.
>>>>
>>>> Updated 10 minutes ago
>>>>
>>>> SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — An animal rights activist's request to install a
>>>> roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
>>>> truck crash has been denied.
>>>
>>> This is surely a joke.
>>
>> How can it be a joke? Wasn't it well documented in The Onion?
>>
>
> And don't call me "Shirley"...

Oh boy! An 'Airplane' reference. LOL

Jill

On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:58:43 -0400, Travis McGee
> wrote:

>On 5/3/2014 7:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
>> > wrote:
>>> PETA’s bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
>>> Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.
>>> Updated 10 minutes ago
>>>
>>> SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — An animal rights activist's request to install a
>>> roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
>>> truck crash has been denied.
>>
>> This is surely a joke.
>>
>
>This has been going on for some time, and it isn't a joke.
>
>http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014...n-utah-denied/

It's hard to fathom how it's possible to be that insulated from
reality

It's also a shame that PETA takes such extreme and unreasonable steps
such as the above, because it doesnt exactly help the cause of animal
welfare in general when they present an image of... well, complete
nutters really. All that time and effort could be put to so much
better use.

On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:59:37 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/3/2014 7:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
>> > wrote:
>>> PETA’s bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
>>> Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.
>>> Updated 10 minutes ago
>>> SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — An animal rights activist's request to install a
>>> roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
>>> truck crash has been denied.
>>
>> This is surely a joke.
>>
>>
>Where PETA is involved, nothing surprises me.

Yes, I suppose so

On Sat, 03 May 2014 20:04:52 -0500, DreadfulBitch
> wrote:

>On 5/3/2014 6:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> PETA’s bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
>>>
>>> Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.
>>>
>>> Updated 10 minutes ago
>>>
>>> SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — An animal rights activist's request to install a
>>> roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
>>> truck crash has been denied.
>>
>> This is surely a joke.
>
>How can it be a joke? Wasn't it well documented in The Onion?

It might as well be

On 4 May 2014 00:22:11 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2014-05-03, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
>
>>>roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
>>>truck crash has been denied.
>
>> This is surely a joke.
>
>No, jes another lame news blurb to distract yer attention away from
>the serious news.

Much like twerking (or whatever it's called).

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:59:37 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 5/3/2014 7:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
>>> > wrote:
>>>> PETA's bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
>>>> Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.
>>>> Updated 10 minutes ago
>>>> SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - An animal rights activist's request to install a
>>>> roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
>>>> truck crash has been denied.
>>>
>>> This is surely a joke.
>>>
>>>
>>Where PETA is involved, nothing surprises me.
>
> Yes, I suppose so

And I though it sounded like a good organisation. I mean, what is wrong
with People Eating Tasty Animals?

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On Sat, 03 May 2014 20:04:52 -0500, DreadfulBitch
> wrote:

> On 5/3/2014 6:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> > On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> PETA’s bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
> >>
> >> Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.
> >>
> >> Updated 10 minutes ago
> >>
> >> SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — An animal rights activist's request to install a
> >> roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
> >> truck crash has been denied.
> >
> > This is surely a joke.
>
> How can it be a joke? Wasn't it well documented in The Onion?

Blurred lines. In this case, RL mimics satire.


--

Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

On 5/4/2014 5:23 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:59:37 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/3/2014 7:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> PETA's bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
>>>>
>>>> This is surely a joke.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Where PETA is involved, nothing surprises me.
>>
>> Yes, I suppose so
>
> And I though it sounded like a good organisation. I mean, what is wrong
> with People Eating Tasty Animals?
>
LOL Nothing that I can see! I'm making braised lamb shanks for dinner.

Jill

Jeßus wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:58:43 -0400, Travis McGee
> > wrote:
>
> > On 5/3/2014 7:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> >> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
> >> > wrote:
> >>> PETA’s bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
> >>> Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.
> >>> Updated 10 minutes ago
> > > >
> >>> SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — An animal rights activist's request to
> install a >>> roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys
> died in a Utah >>> truck crash has been denied.
> > >
> >> This is surely a joke.
> > >
> >
> > This has been going on for some time, and it isn't a joke.
> >
> > http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014...for-turkey-mem
> > orial-in-utah-denied/
>
> It's hard to fathom how it's possible to be that insulated from
> reality
>
> It's also a shame that PETA takes such extreme and unreasonable steps
> such as the above, because it doesnt exactly help the cause of animal
> welfare in general when they present an image of... well, complete
> nutters really. All that time and effort could be put to so much
> better use.

Frankly most PETA folks are nutters.

Sadly the worst part is they pretend to protect animals and take them
into shelters yet have a 98% kill rate. They dont tell the locals they
do not have a shelter. They put them down even if healthy.

I'd not mind if they were honestly telling folks they will help those
not pable to pay to have a loved pet put down but that is NOT what they
tell them here.

Never take a dog or cat to Peta unless you want them put to sleep
forever. THat is all they do.

--

On Sun, 4 May 2014 10:23:00 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:59:37 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 5/3/2014 7:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> PETA's bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
>>>>> Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.
>>>>> Updated 10 minutes ago
>>>>> SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - An animal rights activist's request to install a
>>>>> roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
>>>>> truck crash has been denied.
>>>>
>>>> This is surely a joke.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Where PETA is involved, nothing surprises me.
>>
>> Yes, I suppose so
>
>And I though it sounded like a good organisation. I mean, what is wrong
>with People Eating Tasty Animals?

Nothing whatsoever

On Mon, 05 May 2014 08:56:59 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>>And I though it sounded like a good organisation. I mean, what is wrong
>>with People Eating Tasty Animals?

>Nothing whatsoever

From a Canadian billboard in the 70s-80s:

"There is room for all God's creatures...
"Right beside the potatoes and two vegs"

Sadly I've lost the picture.

--
Bob
www.kanyak.com

On Mon, 05 May 2014 07:12:20 +0300, Opinicus
> wrote:

>On Mon, 05 May 2014 08:56:59 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>>And I though it sounded like a good organisation. I mean, what is wrong
>>>with People Eating Tasty Animals?
>
>>Nothing whatsoever
>
>From a Canadian billboard in the 70s-80s:
>
>"There is room for all God's creatures...
>"Right beside the potatoes and two vegs"
>
>Sadly I've lost the picture.

I like it.

I also like this ancient proverb - and I even have a pic:
http://www.hostpic.org/images/1405051324540100.jpg

On Mon, 05 May 2014 07:12:20 +0300, Opinicus
> wrote:

> On Mon, 05 May 2014 08:56:59 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> >>And I though it sounded like a good organisation. I mean, what is wrong
> >>with People Eating Tasty Animals?
>
> >Nothing whatsoever
>
> From a Canadian billboard in the 70s-80s:
>
> "There is room for all God's creatures...
> "Right beside the potatoes and two vegs"
>
> Sadly I've lost the picture.

Is this it?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/3...868aa124e5.jpg


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Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

Opinicus wrote:
>
> On Mon, 05 May 2014 08:56:59 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> Ophelia wrote:
> >>And I though it sounded like a good organisation. I mean, what is wrong
> >>with People Eating Tasty Animals?
>
> >Nothing whatsoever

> From a Canadian billboard in the 70s-80s:
>
> "There is room for all God's creatures...
> "Right beside the potatoes and two vegs"
>
> Sadly I've lost the picture.

Here you go:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/151/35...868aa124e5.jpg

Gary wrote:
>
> Here you go:
> https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/151/35...868aa124e5.jpg

oops! I see that sf posted the same minutes earlier while I was
offline. She wins. :-D I'm off to work now.

G.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 05 May 2014 07:12:20 +0300, Opinicus
> > wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 May 2014 08:56:59 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>>And I though it sounded like a good organisation. I mean, what is wrong
>>>>with People Eating Tasty Animals?
>>
>>>Nothing whatsoever
>>
>>From a Canadian billboard in the 70s-80s:
>>
>>"There is room for all God's creatures...
>>"Right beside the potatoes and two vegs"
>>
>>Sadly I've lost the picture.
>
> I like it.
>
> I also like this ancient proverb - and I even have a pic:
> http://www.hostpic.org/images/1405051324540100.jpg

<g> true dat!

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On Mon, 05 May 2014 01:09:50 -0700, sf > wrote:

>> From a Canadian billboard in the 70s-80s:
>>
>> "There is room for all God's creatures...
>> "Right beside the potatoes and two vegs"
>>
>> Sadly I've lost the picture.
>
>Is this it?
>http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/3...868aa124e5.jpg
That looks like a more recent version. The one I remember was a
National Lampoon "Foto Funny" that was published a long time ago. The
image is lurking somewhere in my NL archive but I haven't time to dig
it out.

--
Bob
www.kanyak.com

On Sun, 04 May 2014 16:56:17 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Jeßus wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:58:43 -0400, Travis McGee
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > On 5/3/2014 7:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>> PETA’s bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
>> >>> Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.
>> >>> Updated 10 minutes ago
>> > > >
>> >>> SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — An animal rights activist's request to
>> install a >>> roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys
>> died in a Utah >>> truck crash has been denied.
>> > >
>> >> This is surely a joke.
>> > >
>> >
>> > This has been going on for some time, and it isn't a joke.
>> >
>> > http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014...for-turkey-mem
>> > orial-in-utah-denied/
>>
>> It's hard to fathom how it's possible to be that insulated from
>> reality
>>
>> It's also a shame that PETA takes such extreme and unreasonable steps
>> such as the above, because it doesnt exactly help the cause of animal
>> welfare in general when they present an image of... well, complete
>> nutters really. All that time and effort could be put to so much
>> better use.
>
>Frankly most PETA folks are nutters.
>
>Sadly the worst part is they pretend to protect animals and take them
>into shelters yet have a 98% kill rate. They dont tell the locals they
>do not have a shelter. They put them down even if healthy.
>
>I'd not mind if they were honestly telling folks they will help those
>not pable to pay to have a loved pet put down but that is NOT what they
>tell them here.
>
>Never take a dog or cat to Peta unless you want them put to sleep
>forever. THat is all they do.

Yes, I have heard about the above before. We are fortunate here in Aus
because PETA don't seem to have much of a presence here.

Conversely, I do not like the RSPCA here either, because they have
become bureaucratic, corporate, money-hungry and frequently cause good
people unnecessary (and unwarranted) problems.
And, like PETA, the RSPCA is /very/ good at putting animals down.

Fortunately we have alternative organisations here more deserving of
support.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...

> Conversely, I do not like the RSPCA here either, because they have
> become bureaucratic, corporate, money-hungry and frequently cause good
> people unnecessary (and unwarranted) problems.
> And, like PETA, the RSPCA is /very/ good at putting animals down.

There too eh? I wouldn't touch RSPCA with a bargepole! The money they take
in for caring for animals is instead used widely for prosecuting people.
They also put animals down. They won't get a penny of mine.

> Fortunately we have alternative organisations here more deserving of
> support.

Agreed! There are very good alternative orgs here too, one of which I have
spoken about in the past. I get my rescue dogs from them. They will never
put a healthy dog down! I have been to a few of their branches and in each
you can see elderly dogs which will never be rehomed, who live in
comparative luxury In their kennels they have soft beds, places to hide
and even armchairs to lol about on Often they have notices asking for
support which is willingly given. They have all the love and medical
attention they need and will live out their lives in comfort.

We got our latest dog from there just a few weeks ago. After the first few
day we noticed she was holding up one leg. Since we had to take her back to
complete a course of injections, I asked their vet to look at it. She had a
ruptured cruciate ligament and because it was evident she had that problem
while in their care (which was around one week, so she had it when she was
taken there) they pay for all treatment on that leg for life. She has just
had surgery and is now recovering well. Can you just imagine RSPCA doing
any of those things????



--
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On 5/3/2014 11:35 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:58:43 -0400, Travis McGee
> > wrote:
>
>> On 5/3/2014 7:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:41:06 -0400, Travis McGee
>>> > wrote:
>>>> PETA’s bid for turkey memorial in Utah denied
>>>> Published Saturday, May 3, 2014 | 4:21 p.m.
>>>> Updated 10 minutes ago
>>>>
>>>> SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — An animal rights activist's request to install a
>>>> roadside memorial at the site where hundreds of turkeys died in a Utah
>>>> truck crash has been denied.
>>>
>>> This is surely a joke.
>>>
>>
>> This has been going on for some time, and it isn't a joke.
>>
>> http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014...n-utah-denied/
>
> It's hard to fathom how it's possible to be that insulated from
> reality
>
> It's also a shame that PETA takes such extreme and unreasonable steps
> such as the above, because it doesnt exactly help the cause of animal
> welfare in general when they present an image of... well, complete
> nutters really. All that time and effort could be put to so much
> better use.
>

PETA is the Courtney Love of animal welfare/animal rights groups:
utter nutters.

They're not about animals; they're about publicity and fundraising.

On Tue, 6 May 2014 12:48:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Conversely, I do not like the RSPCA here either, because they have
> > become bureaucratic, corporate, money-hungry and frequently cause good
> > people unnecessary (and unwarranted) problems.
> > And, like PETA, the RSPCA is /very/ good at putting animals down.
>
> There too eh? I wouldn't touch RSPCA with a bargepole! The money they take
> in for caring for animals is instead used widely for prosecuting people.
> They also put animals down. They won't get a penny of mine.

Funny, I've never thought of PETA as an animal shelter. They are
animal activists, not pet babysitters. The SF SPCA is a no-kill
shelter, so I guess it's completely different from your RSPCA.
http://www.sfspca.org/about-us/presi...essage/no-kill


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Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

On Tue, 06 May 2014 07:46:44 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
wrote:

> PETA is the Courtney Love of animal welfare/animal rights groups:
> utter nutters.
>
> They're not about animals; they're about publicity and fundraising.

They used to be activists for good causes concerning animal welfare.
Now they are just nuts.


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Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

On 5/6/2014 11:21 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 06 May 2014 07:46:44 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
> wrote:
>
>> PETA is the Courtney Love of animal welfare/animal rights groups:
>> utter nutters.
>>
>> They're not about animals; they're about publicity and fundraising.
>
> They used to be activists for good causes concerning animal welfare.
> Now they are just nuts.

They've gone off the rails and I can't take them seriously.
They've become a caricature through stunts like this.

nancy

On 5/6/2014 7:48 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Conversely, I do not like the RSPCA here either, because they have
>> become bureaucratic, corporate, money-hungry and frequently cause good
>> people unnecessary (and unwarranted) problems.
>> And, like PETA, the RSPCA is /very/ good at putting animals down.
>
> There too eh? I wouldn't touch RSPCA with a bargepole! The money they
> take in for caring for animals is instead used widely for prosecuting
> people. They also put animals down. They won't get a penny of mine.
>
(snippage)

A few years back a woman I know in England (from another ng) was in the
hospital for a period of time. A friend was cat-sitting for her two
cats. One of her cats was elderly but under a vets care. One day the
cat was out for a stroll. Some woman saw the cat and assumed it was a
stray. She picked it up and took it to the RSPCA. Without even
attempting to find out whether or not the cat had a home, they
euthanized it.

Imagine coming home to that. IIRC it took quite a while for her to find
out what happened to her cat.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/6/2014 7:48 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Conversely, I do not like the RSPCA here either, because they have
>>> become bureaucratic, corporate, money-hungry and frequently cause good
>>> people unnecessary (and unwarranted) problems.
>>> And, like PETA, the RSPCA is /very/ good at putting animals down.
>>
>> There too eh? I wouldn't touch RSPCA with a bargepole! The money they
>> take in for caring for animals is instead used widely for prosecuting
>> people. They also put animals down. They won't get a penny of mine.
>>
> (snippage)
>
> A few years back a woman I know in England (from another ng) was in the
> hospital for a period of time. A friend was cat-sitting for her two cats.
> One of her cats was elderly but under a vets care. One day the cat was
> out for a stroll. Some woman saw the cat and assumed it was a stray. She
> picked it up and took it to the RSPCA. Without even attempting to find
> out whether or not the cat had a home, they euthanized it.
>
> Imagine coming home to that. IIRC it took quite a while for her to find
> out what happened to her cat.

Aye, that sounds like the way they work They seem to be only interested
in money so they can grandstand. Never mind the animals which the public
give them so much money to care for.

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On 5/6/2014 7:48 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Conversely, I do not like the RSPCA here either, because they have
>> become bureaucratic, corporate, money-hungry and frequently cause good
>> people unnecessary (and unwarranted) problems.
>> And, like PETA, the RSPCA is /very/ good at putting animals down.
>
> There too eh? I wouldn't touch RSPCA with a bargepole! The money they
> take in for caring for animals is instead used widely for prosecuting
> people. They also put animals down. They won't get a penny of mine.
>
>> Fortunately we have alternative organisations here more deserving of
>> support.
>
> Agreed! There are very good alternative orgs here too, one of which I
> have spoken about in the past. I get my rescue dogs from them. They
> will never put a healthy dog down! I have been to a few of their
> branches and in each you can see elderly dogs which will never be
> rehomed, who live in comparative luxury In their kennels they have
> soft beds, places to hide and even armchairs to lol about on Often
> they have notices asking for support which is willingly given. They
> have all the love and medical attention they need and will live out
> their lives in comfort.
>
That sounds like a wonderful group. Thank you for supporting it.

I'm sorry to hear Bonnie had a problem with her leg. I'm very glad they
were able to take care of it and she's now recovering. She really is a
pretty dog.

Jill

> We got our latest dog from there just a few weeks ago. After the first
> few day we noticed she was holding up one leg. Since we had to take her
> back to complete a course of injections, I asked their vet to look at
> it. She had a ruptured cruciate ligament and because it was evident she
> had that problem while in their care (which was around one week, so she
> had it when she was taken there) they pay for all treatment on that leg
> for life. She has just had surgery and is now recovering well. Can you
> just imagine RSPCA doing any of those things????
>

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...

> That sounds like a wonderful group. Thank you for supporting it.
>
> I'm sorry to hear Bonnie had a problem with her leg. I'm very glad they
> were able to take care of it and she's now recovering. She really is a
> pretty dog.

Thank you but today is not a good day When she needs to go out she has to
be on her lead very slowly for obvious reasons but today, she heard a dog,
twisted sharply and cried out. She is in pain and I am terrified she has
damaged the leg. She had surgery where a cut was made into the bone and a
titanium wedge inserted. The bone can grow through it given time all
because it is not possible to sew together the ligament. She is looking
very sorry for herself and is resting on her favourite rug. If she is not
brighter tomorrow we will need to take her back to see the vet and get
another x-ray to check it out.

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On 5/6/2014 12:24 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> That sounds like a wonderful group. Thank you for supporting it.
>>
>> I'm sorry to hear Bonnie had a problem with her leg. I'm very glad
>> they were able to take care of it and she's now recovering. She
>> really is a pretty dog.
>
> Thank you but today is not a good day When she needs to go out she
> has to be on her lead very slowly for obvious reasons but today, she
> heard a dog, twisted sharply and cried out. She is in pain and I am
> terrified she has damaged the leg. She had surgery where a cut was made
> into the bone and a titanium wedge inserted. The bone can grow through
> it given time all because it is not possible to sew together the
> ligament. She is looking very sorry for herself and is resting on her
> favourite rug. If she is not brighter tomorrow we will need to take her
> back to see the vet and get another x-ray to check it out.
>
I'm so sorry to hear that! Best wishes for Bonnie. And for you.

Jill

On 5/6/2014 10:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> A few years back a woman I know in England (from another ng) was in
> the hospital for a period of time. A friend was cat-sitting for her
> two cats. One of her cats was elderly but under a vets care. One day
> the cat was out for a stroll. Some woman saw the cat and assumed it
> was a stray. She picked it up and took it to the RSPCA. Without even
> attempting to find out whether or not the cat had a home, they
> euthanized it.
>
> Imagine coming home to that. IIRC it took quite a while for her to
> find out what happened to her cat.

A year or so ago in my area, a family's cat ran away from its home.
The family searched to no avail. Several weeks later they discovered
on an online bulletin board that their cat had been found and given to
a no-kill shelter in a nearby town. They called the shelter, described
their cat and the shelter confirmed its distinctive meow. But they
refused to give the family their cat back. They refused to let the
family _adopt_ their cat back, even when the family offered to pay the
adoption fee. Instead, they placed it with another person. The shelter
told the press that it was the family's fault for letting their cat
run, and they had absolutely no intention of telling the family where
their cat was now living.

On 5/6/2014 12:50 PM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
> On 5/6/2014 10:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> A few years back a woman I know in England (from another ng) was in
>> the hospital for a period of time. A friend was cat-sitting for her
>> two cats. One of her cats was elderly but under a vets care. One day
>> the cat was out for a stroll. Some woman saw the cat and assumed it
>> was a stray. She picked it up and took it to the RSPCA. Without even
>> attempting to find out whether or not the cat had a home, they
>> euthanized it.
>>
>> Imagine coming home to that. IIRC it took quite a while for her to
>> find out what happened to her cat.
>
> A year or so ago in my area, a family's cat ran away from its home. The
> family searched to no avail. Several weeks later they discovered on an
> online bulletin board that their cat had been found and given to a
> no-kill shelter in a nearby town. They called the shelter, described
> their cat and the shelter confirmed its distinctive meow. But they
> refused to give the family their cat back. They refused to let the
> family _adopt_ their cat back, even when the family offered to pay the
> adoption fee. Instead, they placed it with another person. The shelter
> told the press that it was the family's fault for letting their cat run,
> and they had absolutely no intention of telling the family where their
> cat was now living.
>
>
Outdoor cats are an entirely different issue. I don't agree with it (I
have an indoor only cat) but it's not up to me to judge. Sometimes
indoor only cats do manage to get out. Shelters shouldn't have that
sort of "power" over people who are trying to reclaim their lost cat.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/6/2014 12:24 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> That sounds like a wonderful group. Thank you for supporting it.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry to hear Bonnie had a problem with her leg. I'm very glad
>>> they were able to take care of it and she's now recovering. She
>>> really is a pretty dog.
>>
>> Thank you but today is not a good day When she needs to go out she
>> has to be on her lead very slowly for obvious reasons but today, she
>> heard a dog, twisted sharply and cried out. She is in pain and I am
>> terrified she has damaged the leg. She had surgery where a cut was made
>> into the bone and a titanium wedge inserted. The bone can grow through
>> it given time all because it is not possible to sew together the
>> ligament. She is looking very sorry for herself and is resting on her
>> favourite rug. If she is not brighter tomorrow we will need to take her
>> back to see the vet and get another x-ray to check it out.
>>
> I'm so sorry to hear that! Best wishes for Bonnie. And for you.

Thank you. I am very worried about her


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"Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/6/2014 10:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> A few years back a woman I know in England (from another ng) was in
>> the hospital for a period of time. A friend was cat-sitting for her
>> two cats. One of her cats was elderly but under a vets care. One day
>> the cat was out for a stroll. Some woman saw the cat and assumed it
>> was a stray. She picked it up and took it to the RSPCA. Without even
>> attempting to find out whether or not the cat had a home, they
>> euthanized it.
>>
>> Imagine coming home to that. IIRC it took quite a while for her to
>> find out what happened to her cat.
>
> A year or so ago in my area, a family's cat ran away from its home. The
> family searched to no avail. Several weeks later they discovered on an
> online bulletin board that their cat had been found and given to a no-kill
> shelter in a nearby town. They called the shelter, described their cat and
> the shelter confirmed its distinctive meow. But they refused to give the
> family their cat back. They refused to let the family _adopt_ their cat
> back, even when the family offered to pay the adoption fee. Instead, they
> placed it with another person. The shelter told the press that it was the
> family's fault for letting their cat run, and they had absolutely no
> intention of telling the family where their cat was now living.

That sounds like theft! How dare they refuse to give her property back to
here (because leaving aside the affection, that is how it would probably be
seen in law!

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