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On 2014-05-08 9:55 PM, Jean B. wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2014-05-06 6:05 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>>
>>> They are not really sauces but Indians do a lot of good things with
>>> cauliflower
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Cauliflower With Egg
>>>
>>> 2. Cauliflower with ginger and coriander.
>>>
>>> 3. Fried Cauliflower
>>>
>>> 4. Indian Potatoes and Cauliflower (Aloo Gobi ki Subzi)
>>>
>>> 5. Cauliflower and Potatoes with Fenugreek Crispin Cowan
>>>
>>> 6. Crisp Cauliflower & Potatoes
>>>
>>> 7. Gobi Aloo (Cauliflower And Potatoes)
>>>
>>> If there's any interest, I can post the complete recipes
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> Cauliflower marinated in yogurt and curry powder then grilled.
>>

> Vegan yogurt..., I'm sure.



I was replying about the use of cauliflower in Indian cooking and a sort
of Indian dish. I don't give a rat's ptooie about Vegans. I do not cater
to them.

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On 5/9/2014 3:31 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-05-08 9:55 PM, Jean B. wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2014-05-06 6:05 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>>>
>>>> They are not really sauces but Indians do a lot of good things with
>>>> cauliflower
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. Cauliflower With Egg
>>>>
>>>> 2. Cauliflower with ginger and coriander.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Fried Cauliflower
>>>>
>>>> 4. Indian Potatoes and Cauliflower (Aloo Gobi ki Subzi)
>>>>
>>>> 5. Cauliflower and Potatoes with Fenugreek Crispin Cowan
>>>>
>>>> 6. Crisp Cauliflower & Potatoes
>>>>
>>>> 7. Gobi Aloo (Cauliflower And Potatoes)
>>>>
>>>> If there's any interest, I can post the complete recipes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cauliflower marinated in yogurt and curry powder then grilled.
>>>

>> Vegan yogurt..., I'm sure.

>
>
> I was replying about the use of cauliflower in Indian cooking and a sort
> of Indian dish. I don't give a rat's ptooie about Vegans. I do not cater
> to them.
>

Thank heaven I have no Vegan friends. The closest approach does not eat
meat but will eat seafood. There are quite a lot of good Thai recipes
without meat so I tend to get Thai take-out for him. I don't cook much
vegetarian Indian food because Indian veg recipes tend to contain a lot
of grease especially in restaurants. My recipe, 1. Cauliflower and egg,
can be made with Egg Beaters (not vegan but certainly meatless).

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On Friday, May 9, 2014 3:52:30 PM UTC-4, James Silverton wrote:
> On 5/9/2014 3:31 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > On 2014-05-08 9:55 PM, Jean B. wrote:

>
> >> Dave Smith wrote:

>
> >>> On 2014-05-06 6:05 PM, James Silverton wrote:

>
> >>>

>
> >>>> They are not really sauces but Indians do a lot of good things with

>
> >>>> cauliflower

>
> >>>>

>
> >>>>

>
> >>>> 1. Cauliflower With Egg

>
> >>>>

>
> >>>> 2. Cauliflower with ginger and coriander.

>
> >>>>

>
> >>>> 3. Fried Cauliflower

>
> >>>>

>
> >>>> 4. Indian Potatoes and Cauliflower (Aloo Gobi ki Subzi)

>
> >>>>

>
> >>>> 5. Cauliflower and Potatoes with Fenugreek Crispin Cowan

>
> >>>>

>
> >>>> 6. Crisp Cauliflower & Potatoes

>
> >>>>

>
> >>>> 7. Gobi Aloo (Cauliflower And Potatoes)

>
> >>>>

>
> >>>> If there's any interest, I can post the complete recipes

>
> >>>>

>
> >>>>

>
> >>>

>
> >>>

>
> >>> Cauliflower marinated in yogurt and curry powder then grilled.

>
> >>>

>
> >> Vegan yogurt..., I'm sure.

>
> >

>
> >

>
> > I was replying about the use of cauliflower in Indian cooking and a sort

>
> > of Indian dish. I don't give a rat's ptooie about Vegans. I do not cater

>
> > to them.

>
> >

>
> Thank heaven I have no Vegan friends. The closest approach does not eat
>
> meat but will eat seafood. There are quite a lot of good Thai recipes
>
> without meat so I tend to get Thai take-out for him. I don't cook much
>
> vegetarian Indian food because Indian veg recipes tend to contain a lot
>
> of grease especially in restaurants. My recipe, 1. Cauliflower and egg,
>
> can be made with Egg Beaters (not vegan but certainly meatless).
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
>
>
>
> Extraneous "not." in Reply To.


It's been my experience that vegans are assholes. Being vegan just happens to be one of the ways they express that. Even if they stop the vegan nonsense, they're still assholes.
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On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:49:08 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
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> ...
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> > On 5/7/2014 5:52 PM, sf wrote:

>
> >> On Wed, 7 May 2014 14:39:17 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

>
> >> wrote:

>
> >>

>
> >>> My suggestion is that you dump that cauliflower and cheese in a big

>
> >>> tortilla wrap along with any scraps of veggies you can find, roll it all

>
> >>> up, and serve it with a big grin. At that point you would have done all

>
> >>> that could have been done and you can go gnaw on a big piece of meat

>
> >>> material.

>
> >>

>
> >> But you'd have to find a vegan tortilla first. A lettuce wrap might

>
> >> be easier (and healthier).

>
> >>

>
> >

>
> > My assumption was that a tortilla was vegan. I can't say that a bunch of

>
> > veggies wrapped in lettuce would be healthier than a bunch of veggies

>
> > wrapped in a tortilla although meat and cheese might be a wee bit

>
> > healthier if wrapped in lettuce. OTOH, anything that you eat once or twice

>
> > or occasionally probably won't have any effect on your health in the long

>
> > run.

>
>
>
> Some tortillas contain lard. For vegans you can't just assume that because
>
> something doesn't look like meat, it isn't! Most Mexican rice has chicken
>
> broth in it and refried beans can contain lard or in some cases Chorizo or
>
> bacon. Many Mexican restaurants offer whole pinto beans and/or black beans
>
> as a vegan option.


Lard is old school real Mexican stuff - we don't do old school real Mexican over here. Vegetable oil is used in the tortillas made locally. I don't know if one can find tortillas with lard on our store shelves.

So you gets your Hawaiian tortilla and dump in any spare vegetable matter in it, roll it up, and you're done! What could be easier to satisfy your weird vegan friends? Nuttin.
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On 5/7/2014 3:45 PM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
> On 5/6/2014 10:54 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>
>> If it's only for a short visit I don't think
>> that would be a problem, and I'd love to learn how others eat when on
>> a restricted diet, even if it's by choice or religion.
>>

>
> You needn't go far to find fussy eaters to cater to. Just befriend a
> family with elementary school-aged kids, and you can learn how to feed
> them while avoiding everything that the kids turn up their noses at.
>
> The people who are genuine with regards to their dietary restrictions
> tend not to make a public display over them. You can tell when it's
> attention seeking behavior instead of principle or medical necessity
> when they go on and on and on and on about it. If they criticize you for
> failing to acknowledge their requirements, that's the second clue. The
> trifecta is when they eat something that should be forbidden, but they
> have a ridiculous rationalization for making the exception. OR
> vice-versa: when they refuse to eat something that's a major component
> of their diet. In the example of my houseguest, he called himself a
> vegan, but he absolutely refused to eat *any* type of fruit or vegetable
> in any form. He told me the only food he normally ate was pancakes. He
> also constantly complained of ill health. When I suggested his diet was
> most likely a factor, he flared up at me. As long as he called it
> veganism, it was lofty and thus above criticism or reproach. In his
> case, calling it an eating disorder would've been more accurate.


As for making a public display, I have a niece who is vegetarian and I
can remember one time when they were moving, I brought over pizza and
forgot to get one that was just cheese. She was so upset with me.
Granted, she was young at the time, around 10, and given to bratty
attacks. She's been vegetarian ever since her class went to some farm
and they learned about animals being slaughtered for food. She was
probably 8 years old at the time, but her heart is still in it to this
day. She's 14 now. I never forget to make sure there's something for
her when I provide food for whatever reason.

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On 2014-05-10 21:55, Cheryl wrote:

> As for making a public display, I have a niece who is vegetarian and I
> can remember one time when they were moving, I brought over pizza and
> forgot to get one that was just cheese. She was so upset with me.
> Granted, she was young at the time, around 10, and given to bratty
> attacks. She's been vegetarian ever since her class went to some farm
> and they learned about animals being slaughtered for food. She was
> probably 8 years old at the time, but her heart is still in it to this
> day. She's 14 now. I never forget to make sure there's something for
> her when I provide food for whatever reason.
>



I had a nephew gt very upset that there was nothing he liked for dessert
at Christmas. We had at leas a dozen choices of cookies, squares and
tarts... plus a fruit platter. He was over 30. No problem. I have not
invited him back.
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We have just acquired two excellent cauliflower which I shall feed to some
'vegan' guests very soon.

Even as a novice I've managed to make a cheese sauce for cauliflower. But
since 'Dairy' is out for them; would anyone be able to advise a very simple
sauce of any kind to go just with the cauliflower? Thanks.

Try some XXX Greek First Cold press Olive Oyl and a splash of Braggs vinegar dusted off with solme Tellicherry pepper. It they are still hungry try some cooked pinto beans and corn bread. That is how I lost all my weight. Always drink Bud Lite.
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"Cheryl" > wrote in message
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> On 5/7/2014 3:45 PM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
>> On 5/6/2014 10:54 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>
>>> If it's only for a short visit I don't think
>>> that would be a problem, and I'd love to learn how others eat when on
>>> a restricted diet, even if it's by choice or religion.
>>>

>>
>> You needn't go far to find fussy eaters to cater to. Just befriend a
>> family with elementary school-aged kids, and you can learn how to feed
>> them while avoiding everything that the kids turn up their noses at.
>>
>> The people who are genuine with regards to their dietary restrictions
>> tend not to make a public display over them. You can tell when it's
>> attention seeking behavior instead of principle or medical necessity
>> when they go on and on and on and on about it. If they criticize you for
>> failing to acknowledge their requirements, that's the second clue. The
>> trifecta is when they eat something that should be forbidden, but they
>> have a ridiculous rationalization for making the exception. OR
>> vice-versa: when they refuse to eat something that's a major component
>> of their diet. In the example of my houseguest, he called himself a
>> vegan, but he absolutely refused to eat *any* type of fruit or vegetable
>> in any form. He told me the only food he normally ate was pancakes. He
>> also constantly complained of ill health. When I suggested his diet was
>> most likely a factor, he flared up at me. As long as he called it
>> veganism, it was lofty and thus above criticism or reproach. In his
>> case, calling it an eating disorder would've been more accurate.

>
> As for making a public display, I have a niece who is vegetarian and I can
> remember one time when they were moving, I brought over pizza and forgot
> to get one that was just cheese. She was so upset with me. Granted, she
> was young at the time, around 10, and given to bratty attacks. She's been
> vegetarian ever since her class went to some farm and they learned about
> animals being slaughtered for food. She was probably 8 years old at the
> time, but her heart is still in it to this day. She's 14 now. I never
> forget to make sure there's something for her when I provide food for
> whatever reason.


She has trained you well <g>


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> On 2014-05-10 21:55, Cheryl wrote:
>
>> As for making a public display, I have a niece who is vegetarian and I
>> can remember one time when they were moving, I brought over pizza and
>> forgot to get one that was just cheese. She was so upset with me.
>> Granted, she was young at the time, around 10, and given to bratty
>> attacks. She's been vegetarian ever since her class went to some farm
>> and they learned about animals being slaughtered for food. She was
>> probably 8 years old at the time, but her heart is still in it to this
>> day. She's 14 now. I never forget to make sure there's something for
>> her when I provide food for whatever reason.
>>

>
>
> I had a nephew gt very upset that there was nothing he liked for dessert
> at Christmas. We had at leas a dozen choices of cookies, squares and
> tarts... plus a fruit platter. He was over 30. No problem. I have not
> invited him back.


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On Sun, 11 May 2014 16:54:52 +0100, "Ophelia"
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>
>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
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>> On 2014-05-10 21:55, Cheryl wrote:
>>
>>> As for making a public display, I have a niece who is vegetarian and I
>>> can remember one time when they were moving, I brought over pizza and
>>> forgot to get one that was just cheese. She was so upset with me.
>>> Granted, she was young at the time, around 10, and given to bratty
>>> attacks. She's been vegetarian ever since her class went to some farm
>>> and they learned about animals being slaughtered for food. She was
>>> probably 8 years old at the time, but her heart is still in it to this
>>> day. She's 14 now. I never forget to make sure there's something for
>>> her when I provide food for whatever reason.
>>>

>>
>>
>> I had a nephew gt very upset that there was nothing he liked for dessert
>> at Christmas. We had at leas a dozen choices of cookies, squares and
>> tarts... plus a fruit platter. He was over 30. No problem. I have not
>> invited him back.

>
>Good for you!


A fussy guest should have brought dessert.


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> On Sun, 11 May 2014 16:54:52 +0100, "Ophelia"
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>>
>>
>>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
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>>> On 2014-05-10 21:55, Cheryl wrote:
>>>
>>>> As for making a public display, I have a niece who is vegetarian and I
>>>> can remember one time when they were moving, I brought over pizza and
>>>> forgot to get one that was just cheese. She was so upset with me.
>>>> Granted, she was young at the time, around 10, and given to bratty
>>>> attacks. She's been vegetarian ever since her class went to some farm
>>>> and they learned about animals being slaughtered for food. She was
>>>> probably 8 years old at the time, but her heart is still in it to this
>>>> day. She's 14 now. I never forget to make sure there's something for
>>>> her when I provide food for whatever reason.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I had a nephew gt very upset that there was nothing he liked for dessert
>>> at Christmas. We had at leas a dozen choices of cookies, squares and
>>> tarts... plus a fruit platter. He was over 30. No problem. I have not
>>> invited him back.

>>
>>Good for you!

>
> A fussy guest should have brought dessert.


A guest ought to realise he 'is' a guest and not a demanding pita.

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On 5/8/2014 4:52 PM, sf wrote:

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> Tortillas use lard. Maybe pita would be a better option. Naan
> uses butter. Cheese isn't going to work either, it's cow
> exploitation.


Listen up brothers and sisters, come hear my desperate tale
I speak of our friends of nature, trapped in the dirt like a jail
Vegetables live in oppression, served on our tables each night
The killing of veggies is madness, I say we take up the fight
Salads are only for murderers, coleslaw's a fascist regime
Don't think that they don't have feelings, just cuz a radish can't scream

I've heard the screams of the vegetables (scream scream scream)
Watching their skins being peeled (Having their insides revealed)
Grated and steamed with no mercy (burning off calories)
How do you think that feels (bet it hurts really bad)
Carrot Juice constitutes murder (and that's a real crime)
Greenhouses prisons for slaves (let my vegetables grow)
It's time to stop all this gardening (it's as dirty as hell)
Let's call a spade a spade (is a spade is a spade...)

The Arrogant Worms "Carrot Juice Is Murder"
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On Tue, 6 May 2014 15:57:59 +0100, "P Jameson"
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>We have just acquired two excellent cauliflower which I shall feed to some
>'vegan' guests very soon.
>
>Even as a novice I've managed to make a cheese sauce for cauliflower. But
>since 'Dairy' is out for them; would anyone be able to advise a very simple
>sauce of any kind to go just with the cauliflower? Thanks.
>


I'm probably too late, but for future reference, google cashew cheese.
I make it all the time and it's wonderful with cauliflower.

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On 5/12/2014 8:55 PM, koko wrote:

> I'm probably too late, but for future reference, google cashew cheese.
> I make it all the time and it's wonderful with cauliflower.


That actually looks really awesome. I've saved the recipe to try it
sometime. The recipe I found had links to Amazon for the yeast, agar
and miso paste, which are things not likely found in my kitchen.

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