"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "barbie gee" > wrote in message
> hcrg.pbz...
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 14 May 2014, Winters_Lackey wrote:
>>
>>> "Cheri" > wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> I know what kind of food my family likes and I try to make it for
>>>>> them. I posted of the food because I got very good deals at Costco!
>>>>> And if I want to cook it ahead it time... Why are people here
>>>>> getting bent out of shape over it? My family is happy with my food.
>>>>> Ya'll may be happy cooking yours a different way or some such thing.
>>>>> But it's all good here!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Beats me. I don't know why anyone would care how long you cook your
>>>> food/steak! Their problem, not yours.
>>>>
>>> I, for one, believe that shitty cooking needs to be called out for the
>>> benefit of those who might stop by to pick up knowledge. Putting a
>>> steak
>>> into a microwave is shitty cooking. No one should model any aspect of
>>> their cooking on Julie Bove's practices, which are only a small step
>>> above
>>> slopping pigs.
>>
>> My head's still reeling over the notion of reheating cooked steaks.
>> Some foods simply do not reheat well, especially in the microwave. I
>> mean, sure, they come out heated, but they are basically a sad imitation
>> of their original goodness fresh out of the pan...
>>
>> Pork chops are another thing you simply can't reheat and have them be any
>> good.
>
> Who cares though? You should cook yours the way you want, and others will
> too.

Now that I think about it, I grew up often eating reheated meat. I actually
prefer to cook my pot roast ahead of time so that it can cool in the fridge
and I can remove the fat from the pan gravy.

Some years ago, my mom began cooking turkey for special occasions the day
before. That gave my dad time to carve it. She reheated some of it in the
oven or microwave with a little broth. Then she had time to concentrate on
the sides.

Microwaving food would never be my ideal way of doing things but sometimes
you have to settle for less than ideal. I could be like countless other
people and pick up something prepared or some sort of fast food simply
because I am not here to cook. I choose not to do that most of the time.
There will be occasions where I have to. Something out of the ordinary
happens and takes me away from home at meal time. But when I know that I
won't be here? Why not cook something ahead of time. And why not cook what
they like?

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Winters_Lackey" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Cheri" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> I know what kind of food my family likes and I try to make it for
>>>> them. I posted of the food because I got very good deals at Costco!
>>>> And if I want to cook it ahead it time... Why are people here
>>>> getting bent out of shape over it? My family is happy with my food.
>>>> Ya'll may be happy cooking yours a different way or some such thing.
>>>> But it's all good here!
>>>
>>>
>>> Beats me. I don't know why anyone would care how long you cook your
>>> food/steak! Their problem, not yours.
>>>
>> I, for one, believe that shitty cooking needs to be called out for the
>> benefit of those who might stop by to pick up knowledge. Putting a steak
>> into a microwave is shitty cooking. No one should model any aspect of
>> their cooking on Julie Bove's practices, which are only a small step
>> above
>> slopping pigs.
>
> Well, your *knowledge* might not be the be all and end all for everyone,
> and I think there are some here that can't conceive of any way but their
> way. Narrow thinking IMO.

Yes. I remember watching one of Sara Moulten's old shows where she was
making mashed potatoes. A man called in and said that he cooked for
dialysis patients. Because they needed to eat a low potassium diet, he had
to drain and rinse the potatoes well, leaving them flavorless. Apparently
this helped to remove the potassium. He said he added Cheese Whiz to put
some flavor back in. I remember cringing just thinking about it. Sara just
shrugged and smiled and said, "Well, whatever works!"

On Tue, 13 May 2014 21:49:46 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> That's assuming it's factual. These little 'bombs' keep appearing in
>> Julie's posts at interesting intervals... just often enough to keep
>> the conversation about Julie simmering.
>>
>> I mean seriously - who would actually do that to steaks?
>> Julie claims to be a writer, doesnt she? And here we have these posts
>> that just defy explanation...
>
>This is getting beyond ridiculous.

You can say that again
But it's also perversely entertaining...

> People eat leftovers every day. People
>here even said they have eaten leftover steak.

I wasn't alluding to just that one comment, but you know that anyway.

>Bottom line is that I had to do the food ahead of time. I am not going to
>say why. I just had to. And that is what I chose to fix and my family was
>fine with it.
>
>Rest assured I won't be inviting any of ya'll over to my house for dinner
>any time soon!

You won't?!? I'm shattered, honestly.
I was really looking forward to chowing on that steak cooked the day
before, then microwaved

On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:50:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> But for as much as I do like to help others, this would not be the route for
> me to take. There is just too much potentially that could go wrong. Again,
> my mom was a counselor. I lived it along with her. Of course I didn't know
> every thing about every case but I did see and hear enough to know the
> dangers of that profession. Just not for me. But you do jump to
> conclusions very easily. Very.
>

When someone uses the term counselor instead of
psychologist, IME they are talking about peer counseling. Was your
mother a peer counselor or a trained and licensed psychologist?


--

Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

On Tue, 13 May 2014 15:02:53 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
wrote:

> Speaking of which, I'm changing the meat offering for our weekend
> wiener roast. The hell with hot dogs! I'ma gonna slice ribeyes into
> strips and we'll cook them over the fire instead. A few of those piled
> into a bun will beat tube steak by a country mile.

I like your plan!


--

Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Winters_Lackey" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Cheri" > wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> I know what kind of food my family likes and I try to make it for
>>>>> them. I posted of the food because I got very good deals at Costco!
>>>>> And if I want to cook it ahead it time... Why are people here
>>>>> getting bent out of shape over it? My family is happy with my food.
>>>>> Ya'll may be happy cooking yours a different way or some such thing.
>>>>> But it's all good here!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Beats me. I don't know why anyone would care how long you cook your
>>>> food/steak! Their problem, not yours.
>>>>
>>> I, for one, believe that shitty cooking needs to be called out for the
>>> benefit of those who might stop by to pick up knowledge. Putting a
>>> steak
>>> into a microwave is shitty cooking. No one should model any aspect of
>>> their cooking on Julie Bove's practices, which are only a small step
>>> above
>>> slopping pigs.
>>
>> Well, your *knowledge* might not be the be all and end all for everyone,
>> and I think there are some here that can't conceive of any way but their
>> way. Narrow thinking IMO.
>
> Julie's cooking reminds me of Army food. Everything was pre-cooked and
> warmed over. Even the coffee was made a week before.

Sheesh! I say one thing and everyone takes it as though it is always like
that! No, I don't always cook food ahead of time. As I said... My
husband's schedule varies. He is *never* here at our normal dinner times
unless perhaps he is off of work. I am not about to cook a fresh meal for
every person at the time that they want it.

If everyone is here and I am cooking, then fine! But if they're not? They
get whatever they find in the fridge. In the old days, women would keep a
plate of food warm in the oven for a husband or kids that were not home at
meal time. How is that so different than using the microwave?

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...

> I can get you a list of poisons that they never test for in autopsies.

I'm pretty sure it is on the Internet somewhere.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:50:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> But for as much as I do like to help others, this would not be the route
>> for
>> me to take. There is just too much potentially that could go wrong.
>> Again,
>> my mom was a counselor. I lived it along with her. Of course I didn't
>> know
>> every thing about every case but I did see and hear enough to know the
>> dangers of that profession. Just not for me. But you do jump to
>> conclusions very easily. Very.
>>
>
> When someone uses the term counselor instead of
> psychologist, IME they are talking about peer counseling. Was your
> mother a peer counselor or a trained and licensed psychologist?

I am not here to discuss her credentials. She was part of a much larger
group. That's all I'm gonna say.

"Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 2014-05-13 6:03 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> >>> If it's true. Don't forget that she has said that she buys meat and
>> >>> cooks it right away. Heck, her inane ways are hard enough to deal
>> >>> with here. I can't imagine what she is like in real life. Her husband
>> >>> probably has the patience of a saint or else he would have packed up
>> >>> and left a long time ago. She gets similar abuse from her daughter,
>> >>> and since the husband was away at work so much she would be the
>> >>> result
>> >>> of Julie's modelling.
>> >>
>> >> Okay. That called for a beverage alert. Anyone who knows the man
>> >> would
>> >> know that patience isn't in his vocabulary. You should have picked up
>> >> on that when I said that 2 minutes in the microwave was too long to
>> >> wait.
>> >
>> > I picked up more than I needed to know a long time ago when you posted
>> > about how he used to stop for supper on the way home.
>>
>> He only ever did that a few times. Perhaps he didn't want to wait to
>> eat.
>> Perhaps he was far away. I don't remember. I only remember the
>> annoyance
>> that I felt that he did not call me to say that he wasn't coming home for
>> dinner. But I was told by a counselor. Oh yes, a counselor! We did try
>> that route! That I was wrong for wanting to get the call like that and
>> that
>> it wasn't any of my business. That was just a guy thing, she said. Mm
>> hm.
>
> why would you go to a counselor?

Well for starters, I had a lot of medical stuff wrong with me that wasn't
being diagnosed and it was making me feel depressed. I didn't have clinical
depression. This was situational. The counselor and that one was a
psychologist said that given other circumstances she was pretty sure we'd be
friends, said that there was nothing mentally wrong with me but that she
felt I wasn't seeing the right Drs. I don't believe at that point in time
there were any "right" Drs. in the Bay area that took my insurance. If
there were, I sure couldn't find them!

It wasn't until we move to NY that I was finally diagnosed with more things.
Then we moved here and it was discovered that I was being treated for a
thyroid problem that I don't have any more! I did have it while pregnant.
Hormones of all sorts can fluctuate while pregnant.

Once I got the proper diagnosis's (there is more than one thing and all
medical, not mental), I was able to apply for and got disability. That
helped me a lot with my outlook on life. One tends to feel rather useless
when they can't physically do a lot around the house and have no income
whatever. And I still can not do all of the things that a totally able
bodied person can do. But I am okay with that. I do what I can. And what
I can't, I get someone to do or pay someone to do. That's life!

We also tried other counseling three times for reasons I won't get into
here. Nor will I say who "we" is. Did not work for reasons I won't get
into here.

"Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > I doubt even the most experienced short-order cook with a constantly
>> > hot
>> > griddle and grill, everything prepped and ready, could satisfy this
>> > meal
>> > in 2 minutes idea.
>> >
>> > Might make for an interesting TV show.
>>
>> They couldn't. And things went a lot better for me when I had a set meal
>> schedule. Used to be that dinner was at 6:00 when I was home. I wasn't
>> always home then due to dance, but when I was, that was meal time. But
>> his
>> schedule now is such that he is either leaving work or arriving at that
>> hour.
>
> I thought you said he can't leave the house?

You thought I said *who* can't leave the house? Husband had a golf related
back injury and had to stay home for 4 days except for work. AFAIK, that
has healed or at least he is not complaining of it.

But why is *my* life so important to people here? I find this rather
fascinating but not in a good way. Sure, I remember things that people say.
You don't like cold foods. Dave doesn't like fresh green beans that aren't
locally grown. sf doesn't like wet burritos. Ophelia doesn't like spicy
foods. Sheldon grinds his own meat. See? Food related things. This is a
food newsgroup. The fact that people here are fixating on various things
that I have said is quite unsettling. Every day is different. Things
change! Just because I say something once or twice doesn't mean that every
day is like that movie Groundhog day at this house! We had meatloaf on
Sunday once. Doesn't mean that we eat it every Sunday.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:57:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>This is true. As I have said many, many times. My mom was a counselor.
>>All these people psychoanalyzing me is rather funny in a sick and pathetic
>>sort of way. But apparently it is what they like to do.
>
> Why does it only happen to you and nobody else here on rfc?

It doesn't happen to only me! Apparently you have missed all of the John
and Bryan crap. And the attacks on sf and other people here.

Perhaps my problem is that I feel compelled to answer you people. And I am
answering honestly as though you are all normal people. And yet? Clearly a
lot of you are not normal people. Because normal people wouldn't be saying
the sorts of things that a lot of you do.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-05-13 21:38, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:57:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> This is true. As I have said many, many times. My mom was a counselor.
>>> All these people psychoanalyzing me is rather funny in a sick and
>>> pathetic
>>> sort of way. But apparently it is what they like to do.
>>
>> Why does it only happen to you and nobody else here on rfc?
>>
>
> If her mother really was a counselor she should know that there is a hell
> of a difference between identifying her as having a personality disorder
> and having some deep rooted psychological issue.

And yet, nobody identified me as having a personality disorder, because I
don't have one. Nor do I have a deep psychological issue but I am really
wondering about you and some others.

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...

> I know more about you and your marriage than I know about anyone else than
> I actually know in real life. If you don't like the commentary stop
> dumping all the dirty details on this group. Can't you tell nobody wants
> to hear it? I could fill a whole newsgroup with stories about my life and
> my toxic relationships. But I don't because it is just a bad idea.

All the dirty details? I don't even know what you are talking about. And
no, you don't know much about my marriage at all. Ya'll are taking things
that I say and turning them into other things. And I find that to be rather
sickening.

"DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/13/2014 5:35 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I was rather excited about the new pears that I
>> bought. Apparently nobody else here was.
>
> How were they?
>
They're still a little too hard for my liking but with this hot weather and
them being at room temp., hopefully I can report on them in a day or two.
If anyone cares. Seems that they don't care about my food except to pick
what I do to shreds.

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...

> Why do you always drag the horrible food habits of your family into
> everything? Do we need to know your childish slob of a husband with mommy
> issues demands his meals in under 2 minutes? Do we need to know your
> daughter hates 99% of the food on the whole planet? Does it help to tell
> us she loves this food until you serve it three times and then it is
> forever hated? Why do you keep telling us all the sordid details? This
> is a cooking group not a therapist session.

My daughter doesn't hate 99% of the food on the whole planet. She is far
less of a picky eater than most kids I know. I never ever said any such
thing. See... This is the sort of thing I am talking about! Other people
here might say something about how their spouse can't eat this or doesn't
like that. I say something like that and I get attacked for it. I also
gather that I am one of the few people who posts here who still has a child
living at home. Seems that the others are either considerably older than me
or have no children.

I am getting quite tired of all these attacks and I should think that the
rest of you would be getting tired of reading them. But oh no! Julie posts
something and let the dog piling begin! And then ya'll just sort of feed
off of each other, making things up that aren't true and then going back and
forth with your made up things. It's sick and pathetic! If you don't want
to read my posts, don't read them! I really don't care one way or the
other. I came here to discuss food!

But it never is just food. Is it? No. It always has to veer. Everyone
taking pot shots at me and demanding to know why I did what I did. Then I
tell you why and I get told why whatever I was wrong.

Thankfully the people in my real life are not like ya'll here. If they
were, I'm sure that I really would need therapy because frankly this would
get depressing!

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 13 May 2014 16:00:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Perhaps I normally shop on the wrong days there? They actually had
>> >> some
>> >> packs of steaks that were 2 per today but... They were super thick
>> >> ones.
>> >
>> > I've noticed that they package meat by price, not number of pieces.
>> >
>> >> So were the New York and Rib Eye. So I opted for a pretty huge
>> >> package
>> >> of
>> >> something else. I think they said Cap Steaks?
>> >
>> > Had to look up that term - I'd buy them if I saw them. Now you have
>> > me wondering if my local Costco stocks them.
>>
> Well, I went to Costco. The cap is sirloin and they were out of
> everything. The butcher told me they're tough. He said the choice is
> basically stew meat and the prime is a little better.

Ah... So what I bought was tough. So... I bought a low end, tough meat
and cooked it ahead of time. Wrong thing to do apparently.
>
>> I do remember looking at steaks before and only seeing huge packages.
>> Perhaps that was in the past or perhaps they just have the smaller
>> packages
>> on certain days.
>
> Price. They're packaging beef in the +/- $30 per package range. I'm
> not happy about the price, but two steaks to a package is a easier to
> handle than six.

Yes. Two is all that we need. I think there were 8 pieces in this package.
Maybe it was 6 but they were small pieces.

On another day when I am able to cook the meat freshly, I will get something
better.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Winters_Lackey" > wrote in message
>
>> Shitty cooking posts that go unchallenged make this group a shitty source
>> for cooking knowledge. Your sig should be a disclaimer. Here's a
>> suggestion.
>> "I cook for a hog and a piglet, both of whom have no sense of good food,
>> so
>> please do not look upon my posts as good advice for how to prepare food
>> for
>> normal humans."
>
> Oh bullshit, you're just looking for a way to abuse a poster like you did
> Andy. Unfortunately, Julie bothers to even answer you.

I won't be answering any more unless he changes his name once again and I
don't realize that it is him. I am also very close to putting Malcontent
back in my KF as well.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 13 May 2014 23:51:00 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> My daughter doesn't hate 99% of the food on the whole planet. She is far
>> less of a picky eater than most kids I know. I never ever said any such
>> thing. See... This is the sort of thing I am talking about! Other
>> people
>> here might say something about how their spouse can't eat this or doesn't
>> like that. I say something like that and I get attacked for it.
>
> You are constantly volunteering information about how your daughter
> likes xyz and hates abc. And then the next week she doesn't like xyz.
>
> I don't eat fruit. I hate most fruits, especially dried (gag). But
> how many times have you ever heard me say that? You, OTOH, tell us
> with every long-winded post you make what you, your daughter, and your
> husband don't like.
>
> So don't get all indignant when one person says they don't like xyz
> *once* when you've said you don't like abc a thousand times over.
>
> Sheesh.
>
>> I am getting quite tired of all these attacks and I should think that the
>> rest of you would be getting tired of reading them.
>
> Who is why you're gaining a reputation of a troll. Only trolls take
> this much abuse.

Well, no. I don't *take* the abuse. I have called several people out on
it. One is going back in my KF probably soon and the other just went back
in. Only reason why I don't put *you* in it is that you do post on topic
stuff.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...

> I am officially done reading your filth since you seem out of control at
> the moment. Meds are the answer.

Join the club. I was sickened long ago.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:57:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:13:34 -0500, Janet Wilder >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 5/13/2014 11:34 AM, wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 13 May 2014 10:08:41 -0500, Janet Wilder >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/13/2014 5:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>>>>>>>>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
>>>>>>>> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they
>>>>>>>> taste
>>>>>>>> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <snip rest unread>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few
>>>>>>> minutes.
>>>>>>> And you don't understand! When one person here wants food, he wants
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to wait.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's spouse abuse!
>>>>>
>>>>> lol - funny
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That's not how I meant it. I really think that Julie is in a abusive
>>>>relationship
>>>
>>> If so, it will run it's course. Similar to alcoholism, there is no
>>> cure until the person involved really wants it and is at their lowest
>>> point.
>>
>>This is true. As I have said many, many times. My mom was a counselor.
>>All these people psychoanalyzing me is rather funny in a sick and pathetic
>>sort of way. But apparently it is what they like to do.
>
> No, what is wrong is that you constantly post about it on usenet! That
> will do nothing to help you. If you are so far out of step, it's time
> to look inward at yourself.

I'm not out of step nor looking for help. You know not of what you speak!

"Julie Bove" > wrote in
:

>
> "Winters_Lackey" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Cheri" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> I know what kind of food my family likes and I try to make it for
>>>> them. I posted of the food because I got very good deals at
>>>> Costco! And if I want to cook it ahead it time... Why are people
>>>> here getting bent out of shape over it? My family is happy with my
>>>> food. Ya'll may be happy cooking yours a different way or some such
>>>> thing. But it's all good here!
>>>
>>>
>>> Beats me. I don't know why anyone would care how long you cook your
>>> food/steak! Their problem, not yours.
>>>
>> I, for one, believe that shitty cooking needs to be called out for
>> the benefit of those who might stop by to pick up knowledge. Putting
>> a steak into a microwave is shitty cooking. No one should model any
>> aspect of their cooking on Julie Bove's practices, which are only a
>> small step above slopping pigs.
>
> There has been much talk of abuse in this thread and you, Bryan are an
> abuser! If you make comments to your family like you do to me and
> others here, then I surely do feel sorry for them.
>
Abuse is allowing your little girl to become disgustingly fat, then posting
pix of her in a freakin' tutu to Facebook. She has every right to hate
you.
>



--
--Bryan

"Happy ****ing 'new years' that was when me and my father
had to identify her dead mud covered body they pulled from
the family car she'd driven into the Mississippi river!"
--John Kuthe in rec.food.cooking, 3-7-2014

On 2014-05-13 10:36 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Winters_Lackey" > wrote in message
>
>> Shitty cooking posts that go unchallenged make this group a shitty source
>> for cooking knowledge. Your sig should be a disclaimer. Here's a
>> suggestion.
>> "I cook for a hog and a piglet, both of whom have no sense of good
>> food, so
>> please do not look upon my posts as good advice for how to prepare
>> food for
>> normal humans."
>
> Oh bullshit, you're just looking for a way to abuse a poster like you
> did Andy. Unfortunately, Julie bothers to even answer you.
>
You don't need to worry about Julie. She would rather be abused than
ignored.

On 2014-05-14 12:14 AM, Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:

>> He only ever did that a few times. Perhaps he didn't want to wait to eat.
>> Perhaps he was far away. I don't remember. I only remember the annoyance
>> that I felt that he did not call me to say that he wasn't coming home for
>> dinner. But I was told by a counselor. Oh yes, a counselor! We did try
>> that route! That I was wrong for wanting to get the call like that and that
>> it wasn't any of my business. That was just a guy thing, she said. Mm hm.
>
> why would you go to a counselor?
>


Isn't it obvious. There is more dysfunction between those three than you
could see in an entire season of Dr. Phil.

On 5/13/2014 10:10 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:

> We share a rib eye between us. If it's "super thick" I'll thinly slice
> the leftovers so DH can have a steak sandwich the next day for lunch. I
> am blessed that he loves leftovers.

That is what we do. He can eat a whole steak, but I can't, so he gets
my leftover steak, thinly sliced, in an omelet with grilled onions, or
in a steak sandwich. He likes his steaks rare and I try to maintain that
as much as I can, while still keeping the food hot.

Becca

On 2014-05-14 12:45 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

> There has been much talk of abuse in this thread and you, Bryan are an
> abuser! If you make comments to your family like you do to me and
> others here, then I surely do feel sorry for them. I also feel sorry
> for you because there is likely much background that I don't know about
> that brought you to being like you are. I know that's neither here nor
> there as it is clear that you aren't about to change. I am just calling
> you out on your behavior!



You're calling him out on his behvaiour? That's rich. We have been
calling you out on yours for quite a while.

On 2014-05-14 12:49 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

>> I mean seriously - who would actually do that to steaks?
>> Julie claims to be a writer, doesnt she? And here we have these posts
>> that just defy explanation...
>
> This is getting beyond ridiculous. People eat leftovers every day.
> People here even said they have eaten leftover steak.

Of course some of us eat leftovers. That is what happens when you cook
more than enough food for a meal and you don't want to waste it. It is
what you do when you have things like lasagne or a roast. There is going
to be more than enough for the gang. I readily admit to boiling extra
potatoes because I can use the extras for home fries and other things.
You have led us to think that leftovers is all you ever have, that you
cook everything in advance.

It is funny that in all the time you have been obsessively posting about
your family dysfunction that you only recently revealed this oddity.
Congratulations. It kept the conversation about you going.


>
> Bottom line is that I had to do the food ahead of time. I am not going
> to say why. I just had to. And that is what I chose to fix and my
> family was fine with it.
>
> Rest assured I won't be inviting any of ya'll over to my house for
> dinner any time soon!

On 2014-05-14 12:52 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

> Bryan, you are a sick, sick person. I should report you to your ISP for
> even saying things like this. But you'd just get a new account
> somewhere else after they closed yours. Pretty sure this would be a TOS
> violation. So... Once again I shall plonk you.


Yes. He is a sick person. So are you. You won't plonk him because he
gives you the attention you love.

On 2014-05-14 2:20 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

>> When someone uses the term counselor instead of
>> psychologist, IME they are talking about peer counseling. Was your
>> mother a peer counselor or a trained and licensed psychologist?
>
> I am not here to discuss her credentials. She was part of a much larger
> group. That's all I'm gonna say.


Don't worry. We will give you some time to do some research to come up
with something that might possibly sound somewhat credible. It is just
difficult for some of us to accept that a counselor could have raised a
child who is content to live amongst so much dysfunction.

On 2014-05-14 2:29 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

> We also tried other counseling three times for reasons I won't get into
> here. Nor will I say who "we" is. Did not work for reasons I won't get
> into here.

Oh sure you will... at some point. Take your time and make up something
interesting.

On 2014-05-14 2:38 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

>
> Perhaps my problem is that I feel compelled to answer you people.


Not really. There is a definite compulsion. But then there is all the BC.


> And I
> am answering honestly as though you are all normal people. And yet?
> Clearly a lot of you are not normal people. Because normal people
> wouldn't be saying the sorts of things that a lot of you do.

You wouldn't know normal if it hit you in the face.

On 5/14/2014 6:11 AM, wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:57:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> This is true. As I have said many, many times. My mom was a counselor.
>> All these people psychoanalyzing me is rather funny in a sick and pathetic
>> sort of way. But apparently it is what they like to do.
>
> No, what is wrong is that you constantly post about it on usenet! That
> will do nothing to help you. If you are so far out of step, it's time
> to look inward at yourself.
>
There are lots of types of counselors. Doesn't mean her mother was a
psychologist, psychiatrist or any sort of licensed therapist. For all
we know she was a high school guidance counselor.

Jill

On 5/14/2014 5:43 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:57:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:13:34 -0500, Janet Wilder
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/13/2014 11:34 AM, wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 13 May 2014 10:08:41 -0500, Janet Wilder
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/13/2014 5:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>>>>>>>>>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
>>>>>>>>> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they
>>>>>>>>> taste
>>>>>>>>> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <snip rest unread>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few
>>>>>>>> minutes.
>>>>>>>> And you don't understand! When one person here wants food, he
>>>>>>>> wants
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to wait.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's spouse abuse!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lol - funny
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not how I meant it. I really think that Julie is in a
>>>>> abusive
>>>>> relationship
>>>>
>>>> If so, it will run it's course. Similar to alcoholism, there is no
>>>> cure until the person involved really wants it and is at their lowest
>>>> point.
>>>
>>> This is true. As I have said many, many times. My mom was a
>>> counselor.
>>> All these people psychoanalyzing me is rather funny in a sick and
>>> pathetic
>>> sort of way. But apparently it is what they like to do.
>>
>> No, what is wrong is that you constantly post about it on usenet! That
>> will do nothing to help you. If you are so far out of step, it's time
>> to look inward at yourself.
>
> I'm not out of step nor looking for help. You know not of what you
> speak!

There was a woman on another newsgroup I frequented who claimed to be
into BDSM. The newsgroup had nothing to do with that subject, but she
insisted on constantly bringing it up anyway - posting comments about
her failed relationships with her various "masters", who as far as we
could tell were just guys who showed up once or twice to use and abuse
her, then disappear. She had a school-age child who was exposed to
this. She saw nothing wrong with oversharing all her personal shit
with the world, but she was oh, so butthurt when people called her out
on her dysfunctional life and the effect it was having on her child.
Thing is, that criticism just fed into her need for pain and attention.

Sound familiar?

Your child and your husband did not choose to have their personal
lives held up for public review. You want to natter on about yourself,
keep at it. But honestly, you should leave third parties out of it.
You can get all the attention you want and need by oversharing stuff
about yourself.

On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:43:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>I'm not your sweetie and I certainly do not jump to his every want. I
>wouldn't do that for anyone! However, I chose...yes chose to be the cook.
>So I do try to cook what they want. One person approached me about South
>Beach. This person is obviously clueless since the other person who lives
>here did try that diet and eventually could not entirely stick to it. I
>already know that this other person could not stick to it as this other
>person is a fruit addict and needs to watch their protein intake.
>
>I also know that I am well stocked up on food and told this person that I
>was not going to change their diet on what seemed to be a whim. We went
>through this with Atkins too. I read the book. There is no way this person
>could ever do Atkins. So... I told this person that we would discuss
>dietary changes after some of our food supply goes down.

Julie, why can't you refer to your family as "my daughter" and "my
husband"? Why is it always "this person" or "one of the other people
in this house" or somesuch?

Doris

Dave Smith > wrote in news:OaJcv.995056
:

> On 2014-05-14 12:52 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Bryan, you are a sick, sick person. I should report you to your ISP for
>> even saying things like this. But you'd just get a new account
>> somewhere else after they closed yours. Pretty sure this would be a TOS
>> violation. So... Once again I shall plonk you.
>
This is Usenet. Besides, I wasn't suggesting anything illegal.
>
> Yes. He is a sick person. So are you. You won't plonk him because he
> gives you the attention you love.
>
Hey, everyone HAD TO know that I wasn't serious. I mean, no one would
believe that I'd really want Julie to move to St. Louis.


--
--Bryan

"Happy ****ing 'new years' that was when me and my father
had to identify her dead mud covered body they pulled from
the family car she'd driven into the Mississippi river!"
--John Kuthe in rec.food.cooking, 3-7-2014

jmcquown > wrote in
:

> On 5/14/2014 6:11 AM, wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:57:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> This is true. As I have said many, many times. My mom was a
>>> counselor. All these people psychoanalyzing me is rather funny in a
>>> sick and pathetic sort of way. But apparently it is what they like
>>> to do.
>>
>> No, what is wrong is that you constantly post about it on usenet!
>> That will do nothing to help you. If you are so far out of step, it's
>> time to look inward at yourself.
>>
> There are lots of types of counselors. Doesn't mean her mother was a
> psychologist, psychiatrist or any sort of licensed therapist. For all
> we know she was a high school guidance counselor.
>
Or http://camprimrock.com/?gclid=CLXX6N...Fe47MgodlwMAjQ
>
> Jill
>



--
--Bryan

"Happy ****ing 'new years' that was when me and my father
had to identify her dead mud covered body they pulled from
the family car she'd driven into the Mississippi river!"
--John Kuthe in rec.food.cooking, 3-7-2014

"Julie Bove" > wrote in
:


>
> Once I got the proper diagnosis's (there is more than one thing and
> all medical, not mental), I was able to apply for and got disability.
> That helped me a lot with my outlook on life.
>
So, on top of everything else, you're a parasite.
>



--
--Bryan

"Happy ****ing 'new years' that was when me and my father
had to identify her dead mud covered body they pulled from
the family car she'd driven into the Mississippi river!"
--John Kuthe in rec.food.cooking, 3-7-2014

Doris Night > wrote in
news
> On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:43:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>I'm not your sweetie and I certainly do not jump to his every want. I
>>wouldn't do that for anyone! However, I chose...yes chose to be the
>>cook. So I do try to cook what they want. One person approached me
>>about South Beach. This person is obviously clueless since the other
>>person who lives here did try that diet and eventually could not
>>entirely stick to it. I already know that this other person could not
>>stick to it as this other person is a fruit addict and needs to watch
>>their protein intake.
>>
>>I also know that I am well stocked up on food and told this person
>>that I was not going to change their diet on what seemed to be a whim.
>> We went through this with Atkins too. I read the book. There is no
>>way this person could ever do Atkins. So... I told this person that
>>we would discuss dietary changes after some of our food supply goes
>>down.
>
> Julie, why can't you refer to your family as "my daughter" and "my
> husband"? Why is it always "this person" or "one of the other people
> in this house" or somesuch?
>
Because she still wants to talk about them, but folks her critisized her
for airing her family's laundry, so now it's, "this person," wink, wink.
>
> Doris
>



--
--Bryan

"Happy ****ing 'new years' that was when me and my father
had to identify her dead mud covered body they pulled from
the family car she'd driven into the Mississippi river!"
--John Kuthe in rec.food.cooking, 3-7-2014

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

> I won't be answering any more unless he changes his name once again and I
> don't realize that it is him. I am also very close to putting Malcontent
> back in my KF as well.

Yes, Mal has been a persistent stalker following you from group to group. I
don't killfile people since some people seem to go through phases of
nastiness before being civil again, so I just put them in time out. :-)

Cheri

"Julie Bove" > wrote in
:

>
> "DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/13/2014 5:35 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> I was rather excited about the new pears that I
>>> bought. Apparently nobody else here was.
>>
>> How were they?
>>
> They're still a little too hard for my liking but with this hot
> weather and them being at room temp., hopefully I can report on them
> in a day or two. If anyone cares. Seems that they don't care about my
> food except to pick what I do to shreds.
>
"She's so dull, come on rip her to shreds." --Blondie
>



--
--Bryan

"Happy ****ing 'new years' that was when me and my father
had to identify her dead mud covered body they pulled from
the family car she'd driven into the Mississippi river!"
--John Kuthe in rec.food.cooking, 3-7-2014

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> I know more about you and your marriage than I know about anyone else
>> than I actually know in real life. If you don't like the commentary stop
>> dumping all the dirty details on this group. Can't you tell nobody wants
>> to hear it? I could fill a whole newsgroup with stories about my life
>> and my toxic relationships. But I don't because it is just a bad idea.
>
> All the dirty details? I don't even know what you are talking about. And
> no, you don't know much about my marriage at all. Ya'll are taking things
> that I say and turning them into other things. And I find that to be
> rather sickening.

Yeah, dirty details. You write like you are talking to a shrink sometimes.
You do the same thing repeatedly and you seem to expect different results
every time. The point is simple, if you don't like the commentary stop
putting it all out there. Nobody wants to hear about how your daughter
hates pizza and cheeseburgers or your oaf of a husband demands his food in
under two minutes. What's complicated about that?



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