"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> I can get you a list of poisons that they never test for in autopsies.
>
> I'm pretty sure it is on the Internet somewhere.

It is but then when they perfrom forensic exams on your computer they find
out you were doing searches.
>



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On 5/13/2014 12:25 PM, A Moose in Love wrote:
> You're being nasty to someone who isn't nasty.
Shut up Nazi, no one wants to hear one more word from you.


>

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where he gets humiliated and has to eat his diamonds.
I'm a Nazi.
Really."

On Wed, 14 May 2014 08:24:45 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2014-05-14 2:20 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >> When someone uses the term counselor instead of
> >> psychologist, IME they are talking about peer counseling. Was your
> >> mother a peer counselor or a trained and licensed psychologist?
> >
> > I am not here to discuss her credentials. She was part of a much larger
> > group. That's all I'm gonna say.
>
>
> Don't worry. We will give you some time to do some research to come up
> with something that might possibly sound somewhat credible. It is just
> difficult for some of us to accept that a counselor could have raised a
> child who is content to live amongst so much dysfunction.

She's not a trained and licensed psychologist.


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On Tue, 13 May 2014 23:53:39 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> > Well, I went to Costco. The cap is sirloin and they were out of
> > everything. The butcher told me they're tough. He said the choice is
> > basically stew meat and the prime is a little better.
>
> Ah... So what I bought was tough. So... I bought a low end, tough meat
> and cooked it ahead of time. Wrong thing to do apparently.

Would he eat soup or stew? You could remediate it that way.


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Good Memories.

In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> "Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> >
> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> > I doubt even the most experienced short-order cook with a constantly
> >> > hot
> >> > griddle and grill, everything prepped and ready, could satisfy this
> >> > meal
> >> > in 2 minutes idea.
> >> >
> >> > Might make for an interesting TV show.
> >>
> >> They couldn't. And things went a lot better for me when I had a set meal
> >> schedule. Used to be that dinner was at 6:00 when I was home. I wasn't
> >> always home then due to dance, but when I was, that was meal time. But
> >> his
> >> schedule now is such that he is either leaving work or arriving at that
> >> hour.
> >
> > I thought you said he can't leave the house?
>
> You thought I said *who* can't leave the house?

how many he's do you have in your house?


Husband had a golf related
> back injury and had to stay home for 4 days except for work. AFAIK, that
> has healed or at least he is not complaining of it.
>
> But why is *my* life so important to people here?

better question is why your life is so important that you post all the
gritty details...and then seem to be surprised when people respond

I find this rather
> fascinating but not in a good way. Sure, I remember things that people say.
> You don't like cold foods. Dave doesn't like fresh green beans that aren't
> locally grown. sf doesn't like wet burritos. Ophelia doesn't like spicy
> foods. Sheldon grinds his own meat. See? Food related things. This is a
> food newsgroup. The fact that people here are fixating on various things
> that I have said is quite unsettling. Every day is different. Things
> change! Just because I say something once or twice doesn't mean that every
> day is like that movie Groundhog day at this house! We had meatloaf on
> Sunday once. Doesn't mean that we eat it every Sunday.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

The checker said I saved a whole lot of money today. Yay!
>
I thought about going to Costco today... Screw that

"Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds" > wrote in
:


>
> better question is why your life is so important that you post all the
> gritty details...and then seem to be surprised when people respond
>
One new detail came out, the fact that Julie is a parasite. She got
herself declared unfit to work so she could get what is essentially
welfare.
>



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On 5/13/2014 11:54 PM, Julie Bove wrote:


<filth snipped>

>> I am officially done reading your filth since you seem out of control
>> at the moment. Meds are the answer.
>
> I agree with you there. At this point, he is akin to the ABC Dr. This
> makes me feel bad. Not for me. But for him. I have a strong feeling
> that he won't take the meds or even put himself in a position to get the
> meds. And that is really all I will say about it at the moment. *sniff*

Why can't you snip out his "filth" before responding?

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Why do you always drag the horrible food habits of your family into
>> everything? Do we need to know your childish slob of a husband with
>> mommy issues demands his meals in under 2 minutes? Do we need to know
>> your daughter hates 99% of the food on the whole planet? Does it help to
>> tell us she loves this food until you serve it three times and then it is
>> forever hated? Why do you keep telling us all the sordid details? This
>> is a cooking group not a therapist session.
>
> My daughter doesn't hate 99% of the food on the whole planet. She is far
> less of a picky eater than most kids I know. I never ever said any such
> thing. See... This is the sort of thing I am talking about! Other
> people here might say something about how their spouse can't eat this or
> doesn't like that. I say something like that and I get attacked for it.
> I also gather that I am one of the few people who posts here who still has
> a child living at home. Seems that the others are either considerably
> older than me or have no children.

It is not normal, no. Kids are notorious picky eaters but they don't tend
to decide they hate something the minute you stock the pantry with it after
they had been eating it and enjoying it previously..

> I am getting quite tired of all these attacks and I should think that the
> rest of you would be getting tired of reading them. But oh no! Julie
> posts something and let the dog piling begin! And then ya'll just sort of
> feed off of each other, making things up that aren't true and then going
> back and forth with your made up things. It's sick and pathetic! If you
> don't want to read my posts, don't read them! I really don't care one way
> or the other. I came here to discuss food!

So keep it to food and enough of the over sharing TMI. What do you expect?

> But it never is just food. Is it? No. It always has to veer. Everyone
> taking pot shots at me and demanding to know why I did what I did. Then I
> tell you why and I get told why whatever I was wrong.

Julie, your posts almost always include lengthy descriptions about the oaf
and kiddo who who just cannot be pleased no matter what.

> Thankfully the people in my real life are not like ya'll here. If they
> were, I'm sure that I really would need therapy because frankly this would
> get depressing!

Well that's true enough. But even if I knew you personally I'd avoid you
like the plague if I had to listen to all the personal stuff. Keep it under
your hat, as they say. It's about cooking. Not about what your family
hates. The next time somebody posts a recipe, try not writing "my family
would never eat that." That would be a good start.



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Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I only remember the annoyance
> that I felt that he did not call me to say that he wasn't coming home for
> dinner. But I was told by a counselor. Oh yes, a counselor! We did try
> that route! That I was wrong for wanting to get the call like that and that
> it wasn't any of my business. That was just a guy thing, she said. Mm hm.

Julie. No valid counselor would ever say that to you. Common sense
would tell you that not calling to say he won't be home for dinner is
just plain rude.

Since you are the only cook, you should plan meals that all would like
and set a dinner time. If they don't get home on time, too bad...eat
leftovers. If they aren't in the mood for what you cooked, too damn
bad. Eat it or starve.

G.

On 5/14/2014 1:44 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/13/2014 5:35 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> I was rather excited about the new pears that I
>>> bought. Apparently nobody else here was.
>>
>> How were they?
>>
> They're still a little too hard for my liking but with this hot weather
> and them being at room temp., hopefully I can report on them in a day
> or two. If anyone cares. Seems that they don't care about my food
> except to pick what I do to shreds.

I'd like to know how the pears are when you eat them.

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Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I know some people who like Steak-Um. That's reheated in the microwave/

I like Steak-Ums occasionally. They are not precooked, they come raw.
They grind up whatever and press them into thin wafers. Anyway...you
don't microwave them, you pan fry them along with some onions and
mushrooms, put on buttered toast.

You cook them (quickly) but you are not reheating them.

G.

On 2014-05-14 3:48 PM, Gary wrote:

>> I only remember the annoyance
>> that I felt that he did not call me to say that he wasn't coming home for
>> dinner. But I was told by a counselor. Oh yes, a counselor! We did try
>> that route! That I was wrong for wanting to get the call like that and that
>> it wasn't any of my business. That was just a guy thing, she said. Mm hm.
>
> Julie. No valid counselor would ever say that to you. Common sense
> would tell you that not calling to say he won't be home for dinner is
> just plain rude.


You're right. No qualified counselor would say that, and it isn't a guy
thing. I am probably one of the most independent types there is and I
would have to be really fed up and ****ed off about something to stop at
a restaurant on the way home to eat. Bear in mind that she has back
tracked on how often he is supposed to have done that, so it is more
than likely bullshit.

It reminds me of another horribly dysfunctional family that I used to
know. The guy was always out of work He would search for work for a
long time and then end up sabotaging it and getting fired. They were
on welfare most of the time. Youngest daughter was on "student welfare",
had her own place but spent most of her time at the parents' place.
Older daughter somehow got into college to become a social work and
half way through the year decided to get pregnant and as soon as she was
knocked up she had stay home and look after the fetus.

The wife was a piece of work... fat, ugly and just plain nasty. She
would regularly cook up a box of Krap Dinner for her husband and
daughters and then she would go next door to the restaurant and have
dinner there.


>
> Since you are the only cook, you should plan meals that all would like
> and set a dinner time. If they don't get home on time, too bad...eat
> leftovers. If they aren't in the mood for what you cooked, too damn
> bad. Eat it or starve.
>
> G.
>

Ema Nymton wrote:
>
> On 5/13/2014 10:10 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
> > We share a rib eye between us. If it's "super thick" I'll thinly slice
> > the leftovers so DH can have a steak sandwich the next day for lunch. I
> > am blessed that he loves leftovers.
>
> That is what we do. He can eat a whole steak, but I can't, so he gets
> my leftover steak, thinly sliced, in an omelet with grilled onions, or
> in a steak sandwich. He likes his steaks rare and I try to maintain that
> as much as I can, while still keeping the food hot.
>
> Becca

Thinly sliced and salted steak is great on toasted and buttered bread
the next day. YUM!

G.

On Wed, 14 May 2014 16:00:33 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:


>The wife was a piece of work... fat, ugly and just plain nasty. She
>would regularly cook up a box of Krap Dinner for her husband and
>daughters and then she would go next door to the restaurant and have
>dinner there.

LOL...

On Wed, 14 May 2014 12:43:31 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

> But even if I knew you personally I'd avoid you
> like the plague if I had to listen to all the personal stuff. Keep it under
> your hat, as they say. It's about cooking. Not about what your family
> hates. The next time somebody posts a recipe, try not writing "my family
> would never eat that." That would be a good start.

Her too. If she can't eat it for whatever unnamed reason, she should
skip posting to the thread. She's not alone though. I see people say
they have an aversion to certain foods as if they their insides were
intact (or worked properly), when in fact they aren't.

Not talking about you, Jill. You don't pretend to not like things
that you can't eat and when you do engage in the conversation (mainly
because someone pushes you into it) you're very careful to state why
you can't eat whatever it is.


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Good Memories.

On Tue, 13 May 2014 23:51:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>My daughter doesn't hate 99% of the food on the whole planet. She is far
>less of a picky eater than most kids I know. I never ever said any such
>thing.

Wow.
If you're not a troll, then you've got *something* going on, some sort
of issue. That's for sure.

>See... This is the sort of thing I am talking about! Other people
>here might say something about how their spouse can't eat this or doesn't
>like that. I say something like that and I get attacked for it.

Because there is *nobody* here who would come within 1% of you and
your family when it comes to dislikes. You could put all of our
dislikes together and I still doubt it would come close. You post what
you post here, you can't simply deny its existence.

On Tue, 13 May 2014 23:38:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:57:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>This is true. As I have said many, many times. My mom was a counselor.
>>>All these people psychoanalyzing me is rather funny in a sick and pathetic
>>>sort of way. But apparently it is what they like to do.
>>
>> Why does it only happen to you and nobody else here on rfc?
>
>It doesn't happen to only me! Apparently you have missed all of the John
>and Bryan crap. And the attacks on sf and other people here.

Not the same thing at all. We are talking about the constantly
evolving story about your family, the endless contradictions, the
ridiculous scenarios and your response to the same. I don't see that
happening to anybody else here.

>Perhaps my problem is that I feel compelled to answer you people. And I am
>answering honestly as though you are all normal people. And yet? Clearly a
>lot of you are not normal people. Because normal people wouldn't be saying
>the sorts of things that a lot of you do.

Industrial-grade irony there. Well, more like yet more bait to keep
the game rolling...

Gary > wrote in :

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> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I only remember the annoyance
>> that I felt that he did not call me to say that he wasn't coming home
>> for dinner. But I was told by a counselor. Oh yes, a counselor! We
>> did try that route! That I was wrong for wanting to get the call
>> like that and that it wasn't any of my business. That was just a guy
>> thing, she said. Mm hm.
>
> Julie. No valid counselor would ever say that to you. Common sense
> would tell you that not calling to say he won't be home for dinner is
> just plain rude.
>
Julie just makes shit up. Maybe she isn't even real. Maybe the FB page
was just a mock-up. If she's real, she's in a lousy way, really ****ed
up, but not quite ****ed up enough to get on a Jerry Springer type show.
>
> Since you are the only cook, you should plan meals that all would like
> and set a dinner time. If they don't get home on time, too bad...eat
> leftovers. If they aren't in the mood for what you cooked, too damn
> bad. Eat it or starve.

Of course, and Jill could move away from that stupid golf club, but then
what would she have to bitch about?
>
> G.
>



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"DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/13/2014 11:54 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>
> <filth snipped>
>
>>> I am officially done reading your filth since you seem out of control
>>> at the moment. Meds are the answer.
>>
>> I agree with you there. At this point, he is akin to the ABC Dr. This
>> makes me feel bad. Not for me. But for him. I have a strong feeling
>> that he won't take the meds or even put himself in a position to get the
>> meds. And that is really all I will say about it at the moment. *sniff*
>
> Why can't you snip out his "filth" before responding?

I wanted to give you something to do.

Cheri

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 14 May 2014 12:43:31 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>> But even if I knew you personally I'd avoid you
>> like the plague if I had to listen to all the personal stuff. Keep it
>> under
>> your hat, as they say. It's about cooking. Not about what your family
>> hates. The next time somebody posts a recipe, try not writing "my family
>> would never eat that." That would be a good start.
>
> Her too. If she can't eat it for whatever unnamed reason, she should
> skip posting to the thread. She's not alone though. I see people say
> they have an aversion to certain foods as if they their insides were
> intact (or worked properly), when in fact they aren't.
>
> Not talking about you, Jill. You don't pretend to not like things
> that you can't eat and when you do engage in the conversation (mainly
> because someone pushes you into it) you're very careful to state why
> you can't eat whatever it is.

Yes, and I especially love it when people comment negatively on foods
they've never even tried.

Cheri

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
news
> On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:43:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>I'm not your sweetie and I certainly do not jump to his every want. I
>>wouldn't do that for anyone! However, I chose...yes chose to be the cook.
>>So I do try to cook what they want. One person approached me about South
>>Beach. This person is obviously clueless since the other person who lives
>>here did try that diet and eventually could not entirely stick to it. I
>>already know that this other person could not stick to it as this other
>>person is a fruit addict and needs to watch their protein intake.
>>
>>I also know that I am well stocked up on food and told this person that I
>>was not going to change their diet on what seemed to be a whim. We went
>>through this with Atkins too. I read the book. There is no way this
>>person
>>could ever do Atkins. So... I told this person that we would discuss
>>dietary changes after some of our food supply goes down.
>
> Julie, why can't you refer to your family as "my daughter" and "my
> husband"? Why is it always "this person" or "one of the other people
> in this house" or somesuch?
>
> Doris

Because as you can well see... Every time I do, someone pokes fun at them
or picks at me for over sharing.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> I won't be answering any more unless he changes his name once again and I
>> don't realize that it is him. I am also very close to putting Malcontent
>> back in my KF as well.
>
> Yes, Mal has been a persistent stalker following you from group to group.
> I don't killfile people since some people seem to go through phases of
> nastiness before being civil again, so I just put them in time out. :-)
>
He was in there. Somehow he seems to keep escaping it.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 13 May 2014 23:53:39 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> > Well, I went to Costco. The cap is sirloin and they were out of
>> > everything. The butcher told me they're tough. He said the choice is
>> > basically stew meat and the prime is a little better.
>>
>> Ah... So what I bought was tough. So... I bought a low end, tough meat
>> and cooked it ahead of time. Wrong thing to do apparently.
>
> Would he eat soup or stew? You could remediate it that way.

He is eating it as I type and it is fine. He *likes* it. It is all the
flack I am getting from people here that is ****ing me off. My husband is
eating steak! Is that oversharing? Sheesh. Sorry sf. Not going off on
you. It is some of the others here who are sticking in my craw.

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...

> Well that's true enough. But even if I knew you personally I'd avoid you
> like the plague if I had to listen to all the personal stuff. Keep it
> under your hat, as they say. It's about cooking. Not about what your
> family hates. The next time somebody posts a recipe, try not writing "my
> family would never eat that." That would be a good start.

In case you haven't noticed and obviously you haven't... I do not respond
to every post in here. If I see a recipe for say...shrimp or lamb, I'm not
going to respond as I have no interest in those things. I most assuredly
don't go into every post with a recipe and say that my family won't eat
that.

Everyone here has just sooo many suggestions! Well here's one for you.
Don't like my posts? Don't read them!

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I only remember the annoyance
>> that I felt that he did not call me to say that he wasn't coming home for
>> dinner. But I was told by a counselor. Oh yes, a counselor! We did try
>> that route! That I was wrong for wanting to get the call like that and
>> that
>> it wasn't any of my business. That was just a guy thing, she said. Mm
>> hm.
>
> Julie. No valid counselor would ever say that to you. Common sense
> would tell you that not calling to say he won't be home for dinner is
> just plain rude.

Well, I can assure you that they did. I won't even bother getting into the
rest of what transpired there but it sure as heck wasn't pleasant.
>
> Since you are the only cook, you should plan meals that all would like
> and set a dinner time. If they don't get home on time, too bad...eat
> leftovers. If they aren't in the mood for what you cooked, too damn
> bad. Eat it or starve.

But the thing is... I *can't* set a dinner time and I am not going to post
my schedule here as that would be stupid. I realize that most people work
M-F and have weekends off. That is not us. Every week is different. It
wasn't always that way. It is now. And I don't cotton to the eat it or
starve thing. I wasn't raised that way and I wouldn't do that to anyone
else. Perhaps the rest of you who tell me to do this were raised this way
and think this is the only way? I don't know. Foreign concept to me and I
would never do that to anyone unless I had to. Such as if there was no
money for other food or no way to go out and get some. As in being snowed
in. Forcing someone to eat something they don't like? That to me is abuse.

On 5/14/2014 5:08 AM, wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:43:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>> eb.com...
>>> On 5/13/2014 4:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's spouse abuse!
>>>>
>>>> He actually prefers the steak that way and daughter doesn't mind either.
>>>> So... I do what they want.
>>>
>>> Sweetie,
>>>
>>> Don't you think that jumping to his and her wants is, somehow, not right?
>>
>> I'm not your sweetie and I certainly do not jump to his every want. I
>> wouldn't do that for anyone!
>
> Janet that will always be the response to your kind post, until she
> finally decides to get away from it.
>
Sadly, she may never admit to it and will remain abused.

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On Wed, 14 May 2014 15:05:24 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 13 May 2014 23:53:39 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> > Well, I went to Costco. The cap is sirloin and they were out of
> >> > everything. The butcher told me they're tough. He said the choice is
> >> > basically stew meat and the prime is a little better.
> >>
> >> Ah... So what I bought was tough. So... I bought a low end, tough meat
> >> and cooked it ahead of time. Wrong thing to do apparently.
> >
> > Would he eat soup or stew? You could remediate it that way.
>
> He is eating it as I type and it is fine. He *likes* it. It is all the
> flack I am getting from people here that is ****ing me off. My husband is
> eating steak! Is that oversharing? Sheesh. Sorry sf. Not going off on
> you. It is some of the others here who are sticking in my craw.

NP. I'm glad to hear he likes it! Seriously.


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Good Friends.
Good Memories.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-05-14 3:48 PM, Gary wrote:
>
>>> I only remember the annoyance
>>> that I felt that he did not call me to say that he wasn't coming home
>>> for
>>> dinner. But I was told by a counselor. Oh yes, a counselor! We did
>>> try
>>> that route! That I was wrong for wanting to get the call like that and
>>> that
>>> it wasn't any of my business. That was just a guy thing, she said. Mm
>>> hm.
>>
>> Julie. No valid counselor would ever say that to you. Common sense
>> would tell you that not calling to say he won't be home for dinner is
>> just plain rude.
>
>
> You're right. No qualified counselor would say that, and it isn't a guy
> thing. I am probably one of the most independent types there is and I
> would have to be really fed up and ****ed off about something to stop at a
> restaurant on the way home to eat. Bear in mind that she has back tracked
> on how often he is supposed to have done that, so it is more than likely
> bullshit.
>
> It reminds me of another horribly dysfunctional family that I used to
> know. The guy was always out of work He would search for work for a long
> time and then end up sabotaging it and getting fired. They were on
> welfare most of the time. Youngest daughter was on "student welfare", had
> her own place but spent most of her time at the parents' place. Older
> daughter somehow got into college to become a social work and half way
> through the year decided to get pregnant and as soon as she was knocked up
> she had stay home and look after the fetus.
>
> The wife was a piece of work... fat, ugly and just plain nasty. She
> would regularly cook up a box of Krap Dinner for her husband and daughters
> and then she would go next door to the restaurant and have dinner there.

I had thoughts in my mind of Bob Newhart when I thought of counselors.
Well, I can say now that not a one of them I have run across were in any way
remotely like that at all. I know others who have seen them or had their
kids see them and they pretty much said the same thing. Counselors these
days are not there to help with life's problems. They're there to diagnose
and treat mental illness. Don't have mental illness? They won't help.
Have mental illness? Maybe they can't help. Sometimes the best they can do
is throw pills at you. The mental illness part has not been my personal
experience as it does not apply to me. Does apply to other people I know.
Not saying who these people are as it is nobody's business here.

Perhaps if you are a really rich person and can pay out of pocket for some
sort of counseling (I have no clue what kind), you could find a Bob Newhart
kind of counselor. But they aren't out here in the real world for people
who depend on their insurance to cover it.

"DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/14/2014 1:44 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/13/2014 5:35 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was rather excited about the new pears that I
>>>> bought. Apparently nobody else here was.
>>>
>>> How were they?
>>>
>> They're still a little too hard for my liking but with this hot weather
>> and them being at room temp., hopefully I can report on them in a day
>> or two. If anyone cares. Seems that they don't care about my food
>> except to pick what I do to shreds.
>
> I'd like to know how the pears are when you eat them.
>
*sigh* Still hard. I'll let you know. I threw the bag out but I think
Angela said they were labeled "Personal pears".

On 5/14/2014 2:48 PM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I only remember the annoyance
>> that I felt that he did not call me to say that he wasn't coming home for
>> dinner. But I was told by a counselor. Oh yes, a counselor! We did try
>> that route! That I was wrong for wanting to get the call like that and that
>> it wasn't any of my business. That was just a guy thing, she said. Mm hm.
>
> Julie. No valid counselor would ever say that to you. Common sense
> would tell you that not calling to say he won't be home for dinner is
> just plain rude.
>
> Since you are the only cook, you should plan meals that all would like
> and set a dinner time. If they don't get home on time, too bad...eat
> leftovers. If they aren't in the mood for what you cooked, too damn
> bad. Eat it or starve.
>
> G.
>
Anyone want to take a bet that that "counselor" was military?

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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I know some people who like Steak-Um. That's reheated in the microwave/
>
> I like Steak-Ums occasionally. They are not precooked, they come raw.
> They grind up whatever and press them into thin wafers. Anyway...you
> don't microwave them, you pan fry them along with some onions and
> mushrooms, put on buttered toast.
>
> You cook them (quickly) but you are not reheating them.

Oh! I stand corrected. I've never had them. I thought one of my husband's
friends told me they were precooked but that conversation dates back to the
80's so I could be remembering it wrong.

On 2014-05-14 5:46 PM, Cheri wrote:
>

>> Not talking about you, Jill. You don't pretend to not like things
>> that you can't eat and when you do engage in the conversation (mainly
>> because someone pushes you into it) you're very careful to state why
>> you can't eat whatever it is.
>
> Yes, and I especially love it when people comment negatively on foods
> they've never even tried.
>

Is that a major problem with the regulars here. I can appreciate that
some might indicate that something suggested does not appeal for one
reason or another. Sheldon has a thing about cheese and seafood. I am
not a picky eater, but there are things that do not appeal to me.

On Wed, 14 May 2014 15:02:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Doris Night" > wrote in message
>news

>> Julie, why can't you refer to your family as "my daughter" and "my
>> husband"? Why is it always "this person" or "one of the other people
>> in this house" or somesuch?
>>
>> Doris
>
>Because as you can well see... Every time I do, someone pokes fun at them
>or picks at me for over sharing.

That's a bit silly - everyone knows who you are talking about. It just
seems quite rude to me. It sounds like you feel they are nothing
better than minor annoyances. If my husband was in the habit of
referring to me as "the other person who lives here" I'd be extremely
hurt.

Doris

On Wed, 14 May 2014 15:19:18 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 5/14/2014 1:44 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >> "DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On 5/13/2014 5:35 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I was rather excited about the new pears that I
> >>>> bought. Apparently nobody else here was.
> >>>
> >>> How were they?
> >>>
> >> They're still a little too hard for my liking but with this hot weather
> >> and them being at room temp., hopefully I can report on them in a day
> >> or two. If anyone cares. Seems that they don't care about my food
> >> except to pick what I do to shreds.
> >
> > I'd like to know how the pears are when you eat them.
> >
> *sigh* Still hard. I'll let you know. I threw the bag out but I think
> Angela said they were labeled "Personal pears".

Sorry to hear you threw them out, they might have been good poached.
It wouldn't have hurt to experiment.


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Good Memories.

On Wed, 14 May 2014 17:20:30 -0500, Janet Wilder >
wrote:

> Anyone want to take a bet that that "counselor" was military?

That makes sense.


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Good Memories.

On 2014-05-14 6:14 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:

>> Janet that will always be the response to your kind post, until she
>> finally decides to get away from it.
>>
> Sadly, she may never admit to it and will remain abused.

You have only her word for her situation and I think it is pretty clear
that Julie has zero credibility. She is just a crackpot looking for
people to blame for her miserable existence. From what I have gathered
her, she has put up with a lot more abuse from her daughter than from
her husband. I think we should save our pity for the husband and daughter.

On 2014-05-14 6:18 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

>> The wife was a piece of work... fat, ugly and just plain nasty. She
>> would regularly cook up a box of Krap Dinner for her husband and
>> daughters and then she would go next door to the restaurant and have
>> dinner there.
>
> I had thoughts in my mind of Bob Newhart when I thought of counselors.
> Well, I can say now that not a one of them I have run across were in any
> way remotely like that at all. I know others who have seen them or had
> their kids see them and they pretty much said the same thing.
> Counselors these days are not there to help with life's problems.
> They're there to diagnose and treat mental illness. Don't have mental
> illness? They won't help. Have mental illness? Maybe they can't help.
> Sometimes the best they can do is throw pills at you. The mental
> illness part has not been my personal experience as it does not apply to
> me. Does apply to other people I know. Not saying who these people are
> as it is nobody's business here.
>
> Perhaps if you are a really rich person and can pay out of pocket for
> some sort of counseling (I have no clue what kind), you could find a Bob
> Newhart kind of counselor. But they aren't out here in the real world
> for people who depend on their insurance to cover it.

I trust that you realize that Bob Newhart is a fictional character.

On 2014-05-14 6:26 PM, sf wrote:

> Sorry to hear you threw them out, they might have been good poached.
> It wouldn't have hurt to experiment.


Pears are a fall fruit. Would you expect then to be good in May?

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-05-14 5:46 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>
>>> Not talking about you, Jill. You don't pretend to not like things
>>> that you can't eat and when you do engage in the conversation (mainly
>>> because someone pushes you into it) you're very careful to state why
>>> you can't eat whatever it is.
>>
>> Yes, and I especially love it when people comment negatively on foods
>> they've never even tried.
>>
>
> Is that a major problem with the regulars here. I can appreciate that
> some might indicate that something suggested does not appeal for one
> reason or another. Sheldon has a thing about cheese and seafood. I am not
> a picky eater, but there are things that do not appeal to me.

Certainly not many, but there are a couple who jump on everything with a
bunch of..."I've never eaten that garbage, and I never would eat that
garbage, and people that eat that garbage are just garbage themselves, and
this is what I eat, and this is how I fix it, and if you don't do it that
way, then you're ignorant" type of thing.

Cheri