Perhaps I normally shop on the wrong days there? They actually had some
packs of steaks that were 2 per today but... They were super thick ones.
So were the New York and Rib Eye. So I opted for a pretty huge package of
something else. I think they said Cap Steaks? Although there was a lot of
meat in the package, the pieces were small and small works better for us.
Since this meat wasn't expensive, I have no qualms about freezing the extra
cooked steak. In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
myself will be having a hamburger patty.

I also got a huge bag of assorted little potatoes which are roasting right
now with some olive oil, salt, pepper, red onion and parsley. They smell
wonderful!

And some Haricot Verts from Guatemala. Daughter had a New York steak the
other night at the 112th street diet and I kept Bogarting her beans.
Although she loves beans, she doesn't like that kind. Not sure how they
cooked them but they were still slightly crisp. I loved them so my mom
tried one and claimed them not to have flavor. Bah! They were damned
yummy! I am roasting these with olive oil, salt and pepper.

We had warm weather today and tomorrow is slated to be unseasonably hot
(that would he 80 for ya'll who actually do live where it gets hot), but
those sorts of temps. put everyone in a tailspin because AC still isn't all
that common here although many newer homes do have it. So my plan is to
make the dinner now so the house won't be heated up tomorrow. Plus, husband
wanted his dinner at something like 2:30 and of course nothing was prepared
then.

I also got some pears that were apparently new to them. Small, green with a
large red spot. The pears drew a lot of attention at the checkout counter.

And some chicken wraps done in a spinach wrap with feta, cucumber and other
things.

Also got Campari tomatoes, asst. bell peppers and my usual honey whole wheat
bread. Oh and some Asian pears and apricots. And the Quicken Eat hamburger
patties. The checker said I saved a whole lot of money today. Yay!

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>
> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they taste
> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>

Come tomorrow they will decide they hate it anyways.



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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>
> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they taste
> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>
> <snip rest unread>

Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few minutes. And
you don't understand! When one person here wants food, he wants it
immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to wait.

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>>
>> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
>> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they taste
>> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>>
>
> Come tomorrow they will decide they hate it anyways.

No. They always like steak unless I put too much seasoning on it.

On 2014-05-13 5:43 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>>
>> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
>> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they taste
>> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>>
>
> Come tomorrow they will decide they hate it anyways.
>
Or.... in a few weeks or months she will deny that she wrote that she
did it.

On 5/13/2014 12:26 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> Perhaps I normally shop on the wrong days there? They actually had
> some packs of steaks that were 2 per today but... They were super
> thick ones. So were the New York and Rib Eye.

There are many ways to use thick steaks.

1. Sear them, then put them in the oven to finish to your liking.

2. Slice them to get two thin steaks out of one thick one.

3. Cut into one or two inch wide strips and saute/grill/broil as
steaklets.

4. Slice them into chunks or very thin strips, marinade, thread on
skewers, broil or grill.

5. Slice into very thin strips, saute or grill for use in sandwiches,
salads, etc.

On 2014-05-13 8:51 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
> On 5/13/2014 12:26 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Perhaps I normally shop on the wrong days there? They actually had
>> some packs of steaks that were 2 per today but... They were super
>> thick ones. So were the New York and Rib Eye.
>
> There are many ways to use thick steaks.
>
> 1. Sear them, then put them in the oven to finish to your liking.
>
> 2. Slice them to get two thin steaks out of one thick one.
>
> 3. Cut into one or two inch wide strips and saute/grill/broil as steaklets.
>
> 4. Slice them into chunks or very thin strips, marinade, thread on
> skewers, broil or grill.
>
> 5. Slice into very thin strips, saute or grill for use in sandwiches,
> salads, etc.
>


Great ideas. What are her objections going to be?

On 5/13/2014 8:51 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:

> There are many ways to use thick steaks.
>
> 1. Sear them, then put them in the oven to finish to your liking.
>
> 2. Slice them to get two thin steaks out of one thick one.
>
> 3. Cut into one or two inch wide strips and saute/grill/broil as steaklets.
>
> 4. Slice them into chunks or very thin strips, marinade, thread on
> skewers, broil or grill.
>
> 5. Slice into very thin strips, saute or grill for use in sandwiches,
> salads, etc.
>
>
We buy rib roasts and cut them into thick steaks. We share one
by grilling it then slicing into thick strips.

nancy

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>>
>> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
>> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they taste
>> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>>
>> <snip rest unread>
>
> Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few minutes. And
> you don't understand! When one person here wants food, he wants it
> immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to wait.

We've discussed this before. It is not the food, it is you. They demand
that you cater to their every whim as a condition for their "love" or what
passes for it. So in the very rare instances when you find food they will
eat they put all kinds of other demands upon you or else they will hate it
like everything else.

Make them cook their own damned food the ungrateful a-holes. Even I grow
weary of this dysfunction and trust me I know dysfunction.




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On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> Perhaps I normally shop on the wrong days there? They actually had some
> packs of steaks that were 2 per today but... They were super thick ones.

I've noticed that they package meat by price, not number of pieces.

> So were the New York and Rib Eye. So I opted for a pretty huge package of
> something else. I think they said Cap Steaks?

Had to look up that term - I'd buy them if I saw them. Now you have
me wondering if my local Costco stocks them.



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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>>>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>>>
>>> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
>>> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they taste
>>> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>>>
>>
>> Come tomorrow they will decide they hate it anyways.
>
> No. They always like steak unless I put too much seasoning on it.

Or it was nuked for 2 minutes and not 2 minutes and 12 seconds. But that is
the requirement today, tomorrow is a whole new ball game.



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On 2014-05-13 10:04 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>>>>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>>>>
>>>> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
>>>> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they taste
>>>> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Come tomorrow they will decide they hate it anyways.
>>
>> No. They always like steak unless I put too much seasoning on it.
>
> Or it was nuked for 2 minutes and not 2 minutes and 12 seconds. But that is
> the requirement today, tomorrow is a whole new ball game.
>

Yep. Now you're catching onto the game.

On 5/13/2014 1:46 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>
> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they taste
> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>
> <snip rest unread>
>
> -sw
>
She did point out (in the lost a lot of food thread) she cooks meat when
she buys it, even if they aren't going to eat it. I can't think of a
better way to ruin a steak. (sigh)

Jill

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-05-13 10:04 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>>>>>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
>>>>> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they taste
>>>>> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Come tomorrow they will decide they hate it anyways.
>>>
>>> No. They always like steak unless I put too much seasoning on it.
>>
>> Or it was nuked for 2 minutes and not 2 minutes and 12 seconds. But that
>> is
>> the requirement today, tomorrow is a whole new ball game.
>>
>
> Yep. Now you're catching onto the game.


Unlike others I do not hate Julie. I understand her because I grew up
exactly in such a world where absolutely nothing was ever good enough and
the harder you tried meant the harder you were going to have to try
tomorrow. And everything you did was thrown back in your face with a wad of
spit and derision but heaven help you if you didn't work harder the next
time. It is sad to see somebody else living like that.



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On Tue, 13 May 2014 07:41:07 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

> Unlike others I do not hate Julie. I understand her because I grew up
> exactly in such a world where absolutely nothing was ever good enough and
> the harder you tried meant the harder you were going to have to try
> tomorrow. And everything you did was thrown back in your face with a wad of
> spit and derision but heaven help you if you didn't work harder the next
> time. It is sad to see somebody else living like that.




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Nancy Young wrote:
>Moe DeLoughan wrote:
>
>> There are many ways to use thick steaks.
>>
>> 1. Sear them, then put them in the oven to finish to your liking.
>>
>> 2. Slice them to get two thin steaks out of one thick one.
>>
>> 3. Cut into one or two inch wide strips and saute/grill/broil as steaklets.
>>
>> 4. Slice them into chunks or very thin strips, marinade, thread on
>> skewers, broil or grill.
>>
>> 5. Slice into very thin strips, saute or grill for use in sandwiches,
>> salads, etc.
>>
>We buy rib roasts and cut them into thick steaks. We share one
>by grilling it then slicing into thick strips.

Can also grind tender steaks for excellent burgers (chopped steak)
cooked as rare as you like:
http://i57.tinypic.com/112bfac.jpg

I do the same with center cut pork loins. When the bone-in roasts go
on sale I buy 2-3, slice 2-3 thick chops from each and use the rest as
a roast. A good trick for cooking pork so it doesn't dry is to cook
it not fully thawed... learned this from my Puerto Rican girl friend;
season before freezing, then thaw about halfway before cooking.

On 5/13/2014 5:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>>
>> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
>> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they taste
>> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>>
>> <snip rest unread>
>
> Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few minutes.
> And you don't understand! When one person here wants food, he wants it
> immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to wait.

That's spouse abuse!

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Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

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On 5/13/2014 12:26 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> Perhaps I normally shop on the wrong days there? They actually had some
> packs of steaks that were 2 per today but... They were super thick
> ones. So were the New York and Rib Eye.

We share a rib eye between us. If it's "super thick" I'll thinly slice
the leftovers so DH can have a steak sandwich the next day for lunch. I
am blessed that he loves leftovers.
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"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 5/13/2014 5:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>>>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>>>
>>> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
>>> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they taste
>>> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>>>
>>> <snip rest unread>
>>
>> Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few minutes.
>> And you don't understand! When one person here wants food, he wants it
>> immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to wait.
>
> That's spouse abuse!


Oner wonders if she has to shake his dick for him after he pees.



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On 5/13/2014 9:41 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2014-05-13 10:04 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>>>>>>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
>>>>>> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they taste
>>>>>> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Come tomorrow they will decide they hate it anyways.
>>>>
>>>> No. They always like steak unless I put too much seasoning on it.
>>>
>>> Or it was nuked for 2 minutes and not 2 minutes and 12 seconds. But that
>>> is
>>> the requirement today, tomorrow is a whole new ball game.
>>>
>>
>> Yep. Now you're catching onto the game.
>
>
> Unlike others I do not hate Julie. I understand her because I grew up
> exactly in such a world where absolutely nothing was ever good enough and
> the harder you tried meant the harder you were going to have to try
> tomorrow. And everything you did was thrown back in your face with a wad of
> spit and derision but heaven help you if you didn't work harder the next
> time. It is sad to see somebody else living like that.
>

You are probably correct. It is called spousal abuse and I pity her.
Many women know they are in an abusive relationship but are afraid to
leave. I think one of the reasons she uses this forum as a substitute
for a *real* network of friends is because he probably won't let her
have any real friends. I'm guessing that rec.food.cooking is her only
social outlet.

Though I understand her and I do feel for her, that doesn't mean that I
can tolerate her nonsense. I'm not that goodhearted. :-) She needs
counseling.


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On 5/13/2014 11:08 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 5/13/2014 5:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>>>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>>>
>>> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
>>> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they taste
>>> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>>>
>>> <snip rest unread>
>>
>> Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few minutes.

Does that mean they want it well done? Fine. Cook it longer.

Her husband and daughter are not going to die if they have to wait a few
minutes. Good lord, even my cat will wait 10 minutes to be fed while I
take a shower in the morning.

>> And you don't understand! When one person here wants food, he wants it
>> immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to wait.
>
> That's spouse abuse!
>
That man needs to learn if he wants dinner on demand he should get his
ass into the kitchen and cook something himself. Sheesh. She's his
wife, not a servant.

Jill

On 5/13/2014 11:07 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:

>> We buy rib roasts and cut them into thick steaks. We share one
>> by grilling it then slicing into thick strips.
>
> Can also grind tender steaks for excellent burgers (chopped steak)
> cooked as rare as you like:
> http://i57.tinypic.com/112bfac.jpg

We make burgers from a chuck/brisket/country style rib combination.
I'm sure it isn't approved by some, but I like having burgers
ready to go in the freezer.

> I do the same with center cut pork loins. When the bone-in roasts go
> on sale I buy 2-3, slice 2-3 thick chops from each and use the rest as
> a roast.

Same here. I pick up the bone in pork roast from Costco and
cut it into halves or thirds for one meal pork roasts.

> A good trick for cooking pork so it doesn't dry is to cook
> it not fully thawed... learned this from my Puerto Rican girl friend;
> season before freezing, then thaw about halfway before cooking.

Sounds good to me.

nancy

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in
:

>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few minutes.
>> And you don't understand! When one person here wants food, he wants
>> it immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to wait.
>
> We've discussed this before. It is not the food, it is you. They
> demand that you cater to their every whim as a condition for their
> "love" or what passes for it. So in the very rare instances when you
> find food they will eat they put all kinds of other demands upon you
> or else they will hate it like everything else.
>
> Make them cook their own damned food the ungrateful a-holes.
>
But then the hog would snort and the piglet would squeal.
>
> Even I grow weary of this dysfunction and trust me I know dysfunction.
>
Hey, maybe you could go into excruciating detail like Julie does.
>


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the family car she'd driven into the Mississippi river!"
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On 2014-05-13 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
>> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they taste
>> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>>
>> <snip rest unread>
>>
>> -sw
>>
> She did point out (in the lost a lot of food thread) she cooks meat when
> she buys it, even if they aren't going to eat it. I can't think of a
> better way to ruin a steak. (sigh)

Yet, some people here are quick to defend her and to blame her husband
for her inability to please him in the kitchen. If this is an example of
the idiotic way she cooks I can understand why he used to stop for meals
on the way home.

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in
:

>
> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
> eb.com...
>> On 5/13/2014 5:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few
>>> minutes. And you don't understand! When one person here wants food,
>>> he wants it immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to
>>> wait.
>>
>> That's spouse abuse!
>
>
> Oner wonders if she has to shake his dick for him after he pees.
>
Gee, you had to do *that*? That is pretty disfunctional.
>



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had to identify her dead mud covered body they pulled from
the family car she'd driven into the Mississippi river!"
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On 2014-05-13 10:41 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:

>>> the requirement today, tomorrow is a whole new ball game.
>>>
>>
>> Yep. Now you're catching onto the game.
>
>
> Unlike others I do not hate Julie. I understand her because I grew up
> exactly in such a world where absolutely nothing was ever good enough and
> the harder you tried meant the harder you were going to have to try
> tomorrow. And everything you did was thrown back in your face with a wad of
> spit and derision but heaven help you if you didn't work harder the next
> time. It is sad to see somebody else living like that.

Isn't that basically the same thing that she is doing here? She asks for
advice and then complains about every helpful hint given, coming up with
excuses why it won't or can't work.

On 2014-05-13 11:08 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:

>> Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few minutes.
>> And you don't understand! When one person here wants food, he wants it
>> immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to wait.
>
> That's spouse abuse!
>


If it's true. Don't forget that she has said that she buys meat and
cooks it right away. Heck, her inane ways are hard enough to deal with
here. I can't imagine what she is like in real life. Her husband
probably has the patience of a saint or else he would have packed up and
left a long time ago. She gets similar abuse from her daughter, and
since the husband was away at work so much she would be the result of
Julie's modelling.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-05-13 11:08 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>>> Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few minutes.
>>> And you don't understand! When one person here wants food, he wants it
>>> immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to wait.
>>
>> That's spouse abuse!
>>
>
>
> If it's true. Don't forget that she has said that she buys meat and
> cooks it right away. Heck, her inane ways are hard enough to deal with
> here. I can't imagine what she is like in real life. Her husband
> probably has the patience of a saint or else he would have packed up and
> left a long time ago. She gets similar abuse from her daughter, and
> since the husband was away at work so much she would be the result of
> Julie's modelling.

congratulations, Julie, on the explosion of attention

what's the procedure for proposing a new group?

my suggestion is rec.food.cooking.advice-for-julie

On 5/13/2014 12:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2014 03:53:59 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few minutes. And
>> you don't understand! When one person here wants food, he wants it
>> immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to wait.
>
> You should have stopped accommodating this "under 2 minutes"
> expectations LONG ago. Not that I even think it's true most of the
> time. I was the most impatient kid there was and even I learned how
> not to "hold my horses".
>
> -sw
>
I doubt even the most experienced short-order cook with a constantly hot
griddle and grill, everything prepped and ready, could satisfy this meal
in 2 minutes idea.

Might make for an interesting TV show.

Jill

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-05-13 10:41 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>>>> the requirement today, tomorrow is a whole new ball game.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yep. Now you're catching onto the game.
>>
>>
>> Unlike others I do not hate Julie. I understand her because I grew up
>> exactly in such a world where absolutely nothing was ever good enough and
>> the harder you tried meant the harder you were going to have to try
>> tomorrow. And everything you did was thrown back in your face with a wad
>> of
>> spit and derision but heaven help you if you didn't work harder the next
>> time. It is sad to see somebody else living like that.
>
> Isn't that basically the same thing that she is doing here? She asks for
> advice and then complains about every helpful hint given, coming up with
> excuses why it won't or can't work.

It's all part of the syndrome. You basically assimilate or die and victims
often find themselves acting out like their abusers. There is also a lot of
Stockholm syndrome involved. For me to break the pattern I had to evict my
family from my life and not look back. It's like kicking drugs.



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On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:11:39 AM UTC-4, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>
> eb.com...
>
> > On 5/13/2014 5:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>
> >> ...
>
> >>> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>
> >>>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
>
> >>> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they taste
>
> >>> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> <snip rest unread>
>
> >>
>
> >> Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few minutes.
>
> >> And you don't understand! When one person here wants food, he wants it
>
> >> immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to wait.
>
> >
>
> > That's spouse abuse!
>
>
>
>
>
> Oner wonders if she has to shake his dick for him after he pees.
>
You're being nasty to someone who isn't nasty. You probably think you're being clever. She's a tad fu#$ed up, but everyone has a flaw.


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"Winters_Lackey" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few minutes.
>>> And you don't understand! When one person here wants food, he wants
>>> it immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to wait.
>>
>> We've discussed this before. It is not the food, it is you. They
>> demand that you cater to their every whim as a condition for their
>> "love" or what passes for it. So in the very rare instances when you
>> find food they will eat they put all kinds of other demands upon you
>> or else they will hate it like everything else.
>>
>> Make them cook their own damned food the ungrateful a-holes.
>>
> But then the hog would snort and the piglet would squeal.
>>
>> Even I grow weary of this dysfunction and trust me I know dysfunction.
>>
> Hey, maybe you could go into excruciating detail like Julie does.


Pass. Nobody believes it unless they were there and those that were there
don't have to be told. Until you hagve experienced true mental illness you
cannot imagine what it is like. Kind of like seeing a ghost. When you do
the experience is anything but what you imagined.




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"A Moose in Love" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:11:39 AM UTC-4, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>>
>> eb.com...
>>
>> > On 5/13/2014 5:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>
>> >> ...
>>
>> >>> On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> >>>
>>
>> >>>> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
>>
>> >>>> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
>>
>> >>>
>>
>> >>> Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
>>
>> >>> dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they
>> >>> taste
>>
>> >>> infinitely better than reheated or cold.
>>
>> >>>
>>
>> >>> <snip rest unread>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few minutes.
>>
>> >> And you don't understand! When one person here wants food, he wants
>> >> it
>>
>> >> immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to wait.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > That's spouse abuse!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Oner wonders if she has to shake his dick for him after he pees.
>>
> You're being nasty to someone who isn't nasty. You probably think you're
> being clever. She's a tad fu#$ed up, but everyone has a flaw.


My words are directed more at him. I know the man and I have never met him.



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On Tue, 13 May 2014 18:08:51 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:

> congratulations, Julie, on the explosion of attention
>
> what's the procedure for proposing a new group?
>
> my suggestion is rec.food.cooking.advice-for-julie

She was a hot topic every second she was gone, so she might as well
reap the harvest.


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Good Friends.
Good Memories.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:26:38 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >> In fact I will cook it tonight for tomorrow's dinner. I
> >> myself will be having a hamburger patty.
> >
> > Only a troll would suggest cooking steaks tonight for tomorrows
> > dinner. Even a moron can cook a steak in a few minutes and they taste
> > infinitely better than reheated or cold.
> >
> > <snip rest unread>
>
> Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few minutes. And
> you don't understand! When one person here wants food, he wants it
> immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to wait.

One person in your house needs to cook his own steak. I can't believe
you enable him so much. Screw him and his immediate meals. Really
Julie.....really?

On 5/13/2014 7:59 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-05-13 8:51 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
>> On 5/13/2014 12:26 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> Perhaps I normally shop on the wrong days there? They actually had
>>> some packs of steaks that were 2 per today but... They were super
>>> thick ones. So were the New York and Rib Eye.
>>
>> There are many ways to use thick steaks.
>>
>> 1. Sear them, then put them in the oven to finish to your liking.
>>
>> 2. Slice them to get two thin steaks out of one thick one.
>>
>> 3. Cut into one or two inch wide strips and saute/grill/broil as
>> steaklets.
>>
>> 4. Slice them into chunks or very thin strips, marinade, thread on
>> skewers, broil or grill.
>>
>> 5. Slice into very thin strips, saute or grill for use in sandwiches,
>> salads, etc.
>>
>
>
> Great ideas. What are her objections going to be?
>

Well, if you just _have_ to cook steak in advance, then freeze it, you
could do worse than freezing thin-sliced cooked strips. They'd be
ready in a jiff and the textural changes from the cook/freeze process
probably wouldn't be as noticeable as in a whole cooked steak.

Speaking of which, I'm changing the meat offering for our weekend
wiener roast. The hell with hot dogs! I'ma gonna slice ribeyes into
strips and we'll cook them over the fire instead. A few of those piled
into a bun will beat tube steak by a country mile.

On Tue, 13 May 2014 11:25:38 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2014-05-13 10:41 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>
>>>>> the requirement today, tomorrow is a whole new ball game.
>>>>>
>>>> Yep. Now you're catching onto the game.
>>>
>>> Unlike others I do not hate Julie. I understand her because I grew up
>>> exactly in such a world where absolutely nothing was ever good enough and
>>> the harder you tried meant the harder you were going to have to try
>>> tomorrow. And everything you did was thrown back in your face with a wad
>>> of
>>> spit and derision but heaven help you if you didn't work harder the next
>>> time. It is sad to see somebody else living like that.
>>
>> Isn't that basically the same thing that she is doing here? She asks for
>> advice and then complains about every helpful hint given, coming up with
>> excuses why it won't or can't work.
>
>It's all part of the syndrome. You basically assimilate or die and victims
>often find themselves acting out like their abusers. There is also a lot of
>Stockholm syndrome involved. For me to break the pattern I had to evict my
>family from my life and not look back. It's like kicking drugs.

I was about to mention the obvious (but not necessarily easy solution)
- leave. I know I would.

There's a reason I live a long way away from my family, although I was
never abused as such. I just can't stand them, to be honest

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 13 May 2014 11:25:38 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 2014-05-13 10:41 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> the requirement today, tomorrow is a whole new ball game.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. Now you're catching onto the game.
>>>>
>>>> Unlike others I do not hate Julie. I understand her because I grew up
>>>> exactly in such a world where absolutely nothing was ever good enough
>>>> and
>>>> the harder you tried meant the harder you were going to have to try
>>>> tomorrow. And everything you did was thrown back in your face with a
>>>> wad
>>>> of
>>>> spit and derision but heaven help you if you didn't work harder the
>>>> next
>>>> time. It is sad to see somebody else living like that.
>>>
>>> Isn't that basically the same thing that she is doing here? She asks for
>>> advice and then complains about every helpful hint given, coming up with
>>> excuses why it won't or can't work.
>>
>>It's all part of the syndrome. You basically assimilate or die and
>>victims
>>often find themselves acting out like their abusers. There is also a lot
>>of
>>Stockholm syndrome involved. For me to break the pattern I had to evict
>>my
>>family from my life and not look back. It's like kicking drugs.
>
> I was about to mention the obvious (but not necessarily easy solution)
> - leave. I know I would.

For many it is not possible for several reasons. Some people simply cannot
function without the dysfunction.

> There's a reason I live a long way away from my family, although I was
> never abused as such. I just can't stand them, to be honest

Easy to understand. You choose your friends. You are stuck with your
family.



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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in
:

>
> "Winters_Lackey" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in
>> :
>>>
>>> Make them cook their own damned food the ungrateful a-holes.
>>>
>> But then the hog would snort and the piglet would squeal.
>>>
>>> Even I grow weary of this dysfunction and trust me I know
>>> dysfunction.
>>>
>> Hey, maybe you could go into excruciating detail like Julie does.
>
>
> Pass. Nobody believes it unless they were there and those that were
> there don't have to be told. Until you hagve experienced true mental
> illness you cannot imagine what it is like. Kind of like seeing a
> ghost. When you do the experience is anything but what you imagined.
>
I wasn't serious.
>



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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Winters_Lackey" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nobody in this house likes a steak that has cooked for a few minutes.
>>>> And you don't understand! When one person here wants food, he wants
>>>> it immediately. 2 minutes in the microwave is too long to wait.
>>>
>>> We've discussed this before. It is not the food, it is you. They
>>> demand that you cater to their every whim as a condition for their
>>> "love" or what passes for it. So in the very rare instances when you
>>> find food they will eat they put all kinds of other demands upon you
>>> or else they will hate it like everything else.
>>>
>>> Make them cook their own damned food the ungrateful a-holes.
>>>
>> But then the hog would snort and the piglet would squeal.
>>>
>>> Even I grow weary of this dysfunction and trust me I know dysfunction.
>>>
>> Hey, maybe you could go into excruciating detail like Julie does.
>
>
> Pass. Nobody believes it unless they were there and those that were there
> don't have to be told. Until you hagve experienced true mental illness
> you cannot imagine what it is like. Kind of like seeing a ghost. When
> you do the experience is anything but what you imagined.

I have not experienced it myself. Have only seen it. And I can say that in
many cases it is not pretty. And can be very frightening. And no, I am not
going into details on that.

I know what kind of food my family likes and I try to make it for them. I
posted of the food because I got very good deals at Costco! And if I want
to cook it ahead it time... Why are people here getting bent out of shape
over it? My family is happy with my food. Ya'll may be happy cooking yours
a different way or some such thing. But it's all good here!