http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-...b_5274763.html

Excerpts:

....The first day I arrived at Jessica's, she told me
she had made a pot of red lentil curry for us for
lunch. "You cooked?" I was shocked. I had brought some
homemade granola bars from Panetica, a bag of baby
carrots, some apples and bananas, and a big iced soy
mocha with an extra shot from Starbucks. I did not
expect to be fed. I knew Jessica didn't cook. I had
gone into the writing of this book a confident cook
and Jessica had gone into editing it an uninterested
one. She was, dare I say, even slightly hostile about
cooking. Still, she agreed to take on this editing
project, perhaps out of pity, perhaps out of a latent
interest in cooking, perhaps because her best friend
is married to my brother. Plus, we'd worked together
before. I had faith in her and she had patience with me.

The red lentil curry was outrageously good. During
the course of editing the book, it appeared Jes had
turned into a cook.

While we sat on the floor amid a sea of essays, she
asked, "Do you want some of this coffee Scott makes?"
Scott is Jessica's husband. "Sure," I said. "It's got
grass-fed Irish butter in it," Jessica said. "And
coconut oil. Does that sound disgusting?" No. I have
been using coconut oil in everything lately and know
how good it is. And a smidge of butter in your food
is one of life's great pleasures. On the other hand,
butter in coffee actually did sound a little gross.
But the red lentil curry had given her some street cred.

"Scott says when he drinks this in the morning, he
doesn't need to eat or drink anything again until 3
p.m.," Jessica said. That sounded illegal. And perfect.

Jes made some organic espresso on the stove. When it
was done, she poured it into her Vitamix, telling me
the Vitamix was so awesome, it would even clean itself
after it was done mixing things up."Christmas present,"
she said. "I don't even want to know how much it cost."
She added a tablespoon of grass fed Irish butter and a
tablespoon of coconut oil to the coffee and turned the
machine on. "Here you go," she said and handed me a
mug of something dark and frothy.

I took a sip. Thick, rich and potent as hell. So many
strong flavors, all competing for my attention and all
deeply satisfying. The combination of fat and caffeine
powered through my veins up to my brain. Boy, was I
happy. What followed was a very productive afternoon.
Then, Jessica sent me home with the essays and told
me I had to revise them....


(includes recipe, later)


Lenona.

wrote:
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-...b_5274763.html
>
> Excerpts:
>
> ...The first day I arrived at Jessica's, she told me
> she had made a pot of red lentil curry for us for
> lunch. "You cooked?" I was shocked. I had brought some
> homemade granola bars from Panetica, a bag of baby
> carrots, some apples and bananas, and a big iced soy
> mocha with an extra shot from Starbucks. I did not
> expect to be fed. I knew Jessica didn't cook. I had
> gone into the writing of this book a confident cook
> and Jessica had gone into editing it an uninterested
> one. She was, dare I say, even slightly hostile about
> cooking. Still, she agreed to take on this editing
> project, perhaps out of pity, perhaps out of a latent
> interest in cooking, perhaps because her best friend
> is married to my brother. Plus, we'd worked together
> before. I had faith in her and she had patience with me.
>
> The red lentil curry was outrageously good. During
> the course of editing the book, it appeared Jes had
> turned into a cook.
>
> While we sat on the floor amid a sea of essays, she
> asked, "Do you want some of this coffee Scott makes?"
> Scott is Jessica's husband. "Sure," I said. "It's got
> grass-fed Irish butter in it," Jessica said. "And
> coconut oil. Does that sound disgusting?" No. I have
> been using coconut oil in everything lately and know
> how good it is. And a smidge of butter in your food
> is one of life's great pleasures. On the other hand,
> butter in coffee actually did sound a little gross.
> But the red lentil curry had given her some street cred.
>
> "Scott says when he drinks this in the morning, he
> doesn't need to eat or drink anything again until 3
> p.m.," Jessica said. That sounded illegal. And perfect.
>
> Jes made some organic espresso on the stove. When it
> was done, she poured it into her Vitamix, telling me
> the Vitamix was so awesome, it would even clean itself
> after it was done mixing things up."Christmas present,"
> she said. "I don't even want to know how much it cost."
> She added a tablespoon of grass fed Irish butter and a
> tablespoon of coconut oil to the coffee and turned the
> machine on. "Here you go," she said and handed me a
> mug of something dark and frothy.
>
> I took a sip. Thick, rich and potent as hell. So many
> strong flavors, all competing for my attention and all
> deeply satisfying. The combination of fat and caffeine
> powered through my veins up to my brain. Boy, was I
> happy. What followed was a very productive afternoon.
> Then, Jessica sent me home with the essays and told
> me I had to revise them....
>
>
> (includes recipe, later)
>
>
> Lenona.

This isn't a new thing. And not withstanding the butter and/or coconut
oil in coffee, some people (including Alton Brown) put salt in their
coffee.

-S-

On Thu, 15 May 2014 20:29:58 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote:

wrote:
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-...b_5274763.html
>>
>> Excerpts:
>>
>> ...The first day I arrived at Jessica's, she told me
>> she had made a pot of red lentil curry for us for
>> lunch. "You cooked?" I was shocked. I had brought some
>> homemade granola bars from Panetica, a bag of baby
>> carrots, some apples and bananas, and a big iced soy
>> mocha with an extra shot from Starbucks. I did not
>> expect to be fed. I knew Jessica didn't cook. I had
>> gone into the writing of this book a confident cook
>> and Jessica had gone into editing it an uninterested
>> one. She was, dare I say, even slightly hostile about
>> cooking. Still, she agreed to take on this editing
>> project, perhaps out of pity, perhaps out of a latent
>> interest in cooking, perhaps because her best friend
>> is married to my brother. Plus, we'd worked together
>> before. I had faith in her and she had patience with me.
>>
>> The red lentil curry was outrageously good. During
>> the course of editing the book, it appeared Jes had
>> turned into a cook.
>>
>> While we sat on the floor amid a sea of essays, she
>> asked, "Do you want some of this coffee Scott makes?"
>> Scott is Jessica's husband. "Sure," I said. "It's got
>> grass-fed Irish butter in it," Jessica said. "And
>> coconut oil. Does that sound disgusting?" No. I have
>> been using coconut oil in everything lately and know
>> how good it is. And a smidge of butter in your food
>> is one of life's great pleasures. On the other hand,
>> butter in coffee actually did sound a little gross.
>> But the red lentil curry had given her some street cred.
>>
>> "Scott says when he drinks this in the morning, he
>> doesn't need to eat or drink anything again until 3
>> p.m.," Jessica said. That sounded illegal. And perfect.
>>
>> Jes made some organic espresso on the stove. When it
>> was done, she poured it into her Vitamix, telling me
>> the Vitamix was so awesome, it would even clean itself
>> after it was done mixing things up."Christmas present,"
>> she said. "I don't even want to know how much it cost."
>> She added a tablespoon of grass fed Irish butter and a
>> tablespoon of coconut oil to the coffee and turned the
>> machine on. "Here you go," she said and handed me a
>> mug of something dark and frothy.
>>
>> I took a sip. Thick, rich and potent as hell. So many
>> strong flavors, all competing for my attention and all
>> deeply satisfying. The combination of fat and caffeine
>> powered through my veins up to my brain. Boy, was I
>> happy. What followed was a very productive afternoon.
>> Then, Jessica sent me home with the essays and told
>> me I had to revise them....
>>
>>
>> (includes recipe, later)
>>
>>
>> Lenona.
>
>This isn't a new thing. And not withstanding the butter and/or coconut
>oil in coffee, some people (including Alton Brown) put salt in their
>coffee.
>
>-S-
>

Mmmmm! The buttering of coffee! Back before I started drinking my hot
stgrong Sumatran black, I used to adore the buttery fat film on my cup
with 40% cream and sugar! :-)

John Kuthe...

On 5/15/2014 8:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
> wrote:
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-...b_5274763.html
>>
>> Lenona.
>
> This isn't a new thing. And not withstanding the butter and/or coconut
> oil in coffee, some people (including Alton Brown) put salt in their
> coffee.
>
> -S-
>
>
Screw Alton Brown. Adding salt to coffee is nothing new. It was
particularly added to bitter, cheap coffee grounds during and after the
American Civil War. Also during the depression in the 1930's. The same
sort of thing was done with adding (or outright substituting) ground
chickory when coffee was scarce. Doesn't make it taste any better.
Butter in coffee? No thanks.

Jill

On Thu, 15 May 2014 21:45:10 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/15/2014 8:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-...b_5274763.html
>>>
>>> Lenona.
>>
>> This isn't a new thing. And not withstanding the butter and/or coconut
>> oil in coffee, some people (including Alton Brown) put salt in their
>> coffee.
>>
>> -S-
>>
>>
>Screw Alton Brown. Adding salt to coffee is nothing new. It was
>particularly added to bitter, cheap coffee grounds during and after the
>American Civil War. Also during the depression in the 1930's. The same
>sort of thing was done with adding (or outright substituting) ground
>chickory when coffee was scarce. Doesn't make it taste any better.
>Butter in coffee? No thanks.
>
>Jill

Bullshit Jill. Butter is the universal condiment! I defy you to find
any food that butter would detract from the deliciousness of it if
added as a condiment! I use that as the challenge and I've never found
any such food. Someone once said "Jell-o" and I was like "Well, you
can put whipped cream on Jell-o and whipped cream is primarily butter,
so there ya go!"

John Kuthe...

jmcquown > wrote in
:


>
> On 5/15/2014 8:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:

>>
>> This isn't a new thing. And not withstanding the butter and/or
>> coconut oil in coffee, some people (including Alton Brown) put salt
>> in their coffee.
>>
>> -S-
>>
>>
> Screw Alton Brown. Adding salt to coffee is nothing new. It was
> particularly added to bitter, cheap coffee grounds during and after
> the American Civil War. Also during the depression in the 1930's.
> The same sort of thing was done with adding (or outright substituting)
> ground chickory when coffee was scarce. Doesn't make it taste any
> better. Butter in coffee? No thanks.
>
Sometimes I agree with Jill. This would be one of those times. Alton
Brown is a pig, as only a pig would put salt in coffee.
>
> Jill
>



--
--Bryan

"Happy ****ing 'new years' that was when me and my father
had to identify her dead mud covered body they pulled from
the family car she'd driven into the Mississippi river!"
--John Kuthe in rec.food.cooking, 3-7-2014

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Thu, 15 May 2014 21:45:10 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/15/2014 8:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>> wrote:
>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-...b_5274763.html
>>>>
>>>> Lenona.
>>>
>>> This isn't a new thing. And not withstanding the butter and/or
>>> coconut oil in coffee, some people (including Alton Brown) put salt
>>> in their coffee.
>>>
>>> -S-
>>>
>>>
>> Screw Alton Brown. Adding salt to coffee is nothing new. It was
>> particularly added to bitter, cheap coffee grounds during and after
>> the American Civil War. Also during the depression in the 1930's.
>> The same sort of thing was done with adding (or outright
>> substituting) ground chickory when coffee was scarce. Doesn't make
>> it taste any better. Butter in coffee? No thanks.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Bullshit Jill. Butter is the universal condiment! I defy you to find
> any food that butter would detract from the deliciousness of it if
> added as a condiment! I use that as the challenge and I've never found
> any such food. Someone once said "Jell-o" and I was like "Well, you
> can put whipped cream on Jell-o and whipped cream is primarily butter,
> so there ya go!"
>
> John Kuthe...

I've tried butter and/or coconut oil in my coffee; unfortunately,
drinking my coffee like that means spending the next little while in the
powder room for me, so I avoid it.

-S-

jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/15/2014 8:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-...b_5274763.html
>>>
>>> Lenona.
>>
>> This isn't a new thing. And not withstanding the butter and/or
>> coconut oil in coffee, some people (including Alton Brown) put salt
>> in their coffee.
>>
>> -S-
>>
>>
> Screw Alton Brown. Adding salt to coffee is nothing new. It was
> particularly added to bitter, cheap coffee grounds during and after
> the American Civil War. Also during the depression in the 1930's. The
> same sort of thing was done with adding (or outright
> substituting) ground chickory when coffee was scarce.

I didn't say it was new, I said just the opposite. I just mentioned
that one well-known cooking expert considers it a good idea, even with
good coffee. That makes it at least worthy of consideration in my book,
even if not actually going so far as to try it.

> Doesn't make it taste any better.

A matter of opinion with which some people disagree.

> Butter in coffee? No thanks.

Hey, I don't do it, either, but I don't think it tastes terrible and I
think a lot of people would like it if they tried it.

-S-

"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/15/2014 8:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>> wrote:
>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-...b_5274763.html
>>>>
>>>> Lenona.
>>>
>>> This isn't a new thing. And not withstanding the butter and/or
>>> coconut oil in coffee, some people (including Alton Brown) put salt
>>> in their coffee.
>>>
>>> -S-
>>>
>>>
>> Screw Alton Brown. Adding salt to coffee is nothing new. It was
>> particularly added to bitter, cheap coffee grounds during and after
>> the American Civil War. Also during the depression in the 1930's. The
>> same sort of thing was done with adding (or outright
>> substituting) ground chickory when coffee was scarce.
>
> I didn't say it was new, I said just the opposite. I just mentioned that
> one well-known cooking expert considers it a good idea, even with good
> coffee. That makes it at least worthy of consideration in my book, even
> if not actually going so far as to try it.
>
>> Doesn't make it taste any better.
>
> A matter of opinion with which some people disagree.
>
>> Butter in coffee? No thanks.
>
> Hey, I don't do it, either, but I don't think it tastes terrible and I
> think a lot of people would like it if they tried it.

I put double cream in my coffee so not too far removed do you think?


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Steve Freides wrote:
>
> jmcquown wrote:
> > On 5/15/2014 8:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
> >> wrote:
> >>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-...b_5274763.html
> >>>
> >>> Lenona.
> >>
> >> This isn't a new thing. And not withstanding the butter and/or
> >> coconut oil in coffee, some people (including Alton Brown) put salt
> >> in their coffee.
> >>
> >> -S-
> >>
> >>
> > Screw Alton Brown. Adding salt to coffee is nothing new. It was
> > particularly added to bitter, cheap coffee grounds during and after
> > the American Civil War. Also during the depression in the 1930's. The
> > same sort of thing was done with adding (or outright
> > substituting) ground chickory when coffee was scarce.
>
> I didn't say it was new, I said just the opposite. I just mentioned
> that one well-known cooking expert considers it a good idea, even with
> good coffee. That makes it at least worthy of consideration in my book,
> even if not actually going so far as to try it.

OK, you've baited me. I plan to put a little pince of salt in my
coffee tomorrow morning. Actually I'll make 2 cups - one with and one
without - and compare. I've never heard of doing that but I'll give
it a try.

G.

On Fri, 16 May 2014 15:42:22 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/15/2014 8:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-...b_5274763.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Lenona.
>>>>
>>>> This isn't a new thing. And not withstanding the butter and/or
>>>> coconut oil in coffee, some people (including Alton Brown) put salt
>>>> in their coffee.
>>>>
>>>> -S-
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Screw Alton Brown. Adding salt to coffee is nothing new. It was
>>> particularly added to bitter, cheap coffee grounds during and after
>>> the American Civil War. Also during the depression in the 1930's. The
>>> same sort of thing was done with adding (or outright
>>> substituting) ground chickory when coffee was scarce.
>>
>> I didn't say it was new, I said just the opposite. I just mentioned that
>> one well-known cooking expert considers it a good idea, even with good
>> coffee. That makes it at least worthy of consideration in my book, even
>> if not actually going so far as to try it.
>>
>>> Doesn't make it taste any better.
>>
>> A matter of opinion with which some people disagree.
>>
>>> Butter in coffee? No thanks.
>>
>> Hey, I don't do it, either, but I don't think it tastes terrible and I
>> think a lot of people would like it if they tried it.
>
>I put double cream in my coffee so not too far removed do you think?

Maybe supposed to say 'butter toffee'.
http://www.joyofbaking.com/ButtercrunchToffee.html

On Fri, 16 May 2014 10:30:17 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote:

>I've tried butter and/or coconut oil in my coffee; unfortunately,
>drinking my coffee like that means spending the next little while in the
>powder room for me, so I avoid it.

I can't imagine coconut oil and coffee together (!)

On Fri, 16 May 2014 15:42:22 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/15/2014 8:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>> Butter in coffee? No thanks.
>>
>> Hey, I don't do it, either, but I don't think it tastes terrible and I
>> think a lot of people would like it if they tried it.
>
>I put double cream in my coffee so not too far removed do you think?

Not very... as close as you'll ever get.

I put a splash of normal cream in a tall glass, then make a double
latte with full cream milk. Been making them for so long now each and
every morning, I'm sure I could make them blindfolded.
I'm having one right now...

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 16 May 2014 15:42:22 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 5/15/2014 8:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>>> Butter in coffee? No thanks.
>>>
>>> Hey, I don't do it, either, but I don't think it tastes terrible and I
>>> think a lot of people would like it if they tried it.
>>
>>I put double cream in my coffee so not too far removed do you think?
>
> Not very... as close as you'll ever get.
>
> I put a splash of normal cream in a tall glass, then make a double
> latte with full cream milk. Been making them for so long now each and
> every morning, I'm sure I could make them blindfolded.
> I'm having one right now...

Cool Too late for me, just after 11pm and I do want to sleep)

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On 5/16/2014 9:42 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> I put double cream in my coffee so not too far removed do you think?

Same here, on the double cream. My coffee is decaff, though.

Becca

On 5/16/2014 11:20 AM, Gary wrote:
> Steve Freides wrote:
>>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/15/2014 8:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-...b_5274763.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Lenona.
>>>>
>>>> This isn't a new thing. And not withstanding the butter and/or
>>>> coconut oil in coffee, some people (including Alton Brown) put salt
>>>> in their coffee.
>>>>
>>>> -S-
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Screw Alton Brown. Adding salt to coffee is nothing new. It was
>>> particularly added to bitter, cheap coffee grounds during and after
>>> the American Civil War. Also during the depression in the 1930's. The
>>> same sort of thing was done with adding (or outright
>>> substituting) ground chickory when coffee was scarce.
>>
>> I didn't say it was new, I said just the opposite. I just mentioned
>> that one well-known cooking expert considers it a good idea, even with
>> good coffee. That makes it at least worthy of consideration in my book,
>> even if not actually going so far as to try it.
>
> OK, you've baited me. I plan to put a little pince of salt in my
> coffee tomorrow morning. Actually I'll make 2 cups - one with and one
> without - and compare. I've never heard of doing that but I'll give
> it a try.
>
> G.
>
You're supposed to sprinkle the salt in the ground coffee before you
brew it. Many moons ago (when I was married) I had to buy really cheap
coffee. A pinch of salt made it almost okay.

Jill

On Fri, 16 May 2014 23:04:24 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 16 May 2014 15:42:22 +0100, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 5/15/2014 8:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>>>> Butter in coffee? No thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Hey, I don't do it, either, but I don't think it tastes terrible and I
>>>> think a lot of people would like it if they tried it.
>>>
>>>I put double cream in my coffee so not too far removed do you think?
>>
>> Not very... as close as you'll ever get.
>>
>> I put a splash of normal cream in a tall glass, then make a double
>> latte with full cream milk. Been making them for so long now each and
>> every morning, I'm sure I could make them blindfolded.
>> I'm having one right now...
>
>Cool Too late for me, just after 11pm and I do want to sleep)

Have a brandy instead?

On Fri, 16 May 2014 19:49:33 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> You're supposed to sprinkle the salt in the ground coffee before you
> brew it. Many moons ago (when I was married) I had to buy really cheap
> coffee. A pinch of salt made it almost okay.

Never heard of the salt thing before this thread. I thought that's
what chicory was supposed to do. Back in the day when we didn't buy
fresh coffee beans at the grocery store, I'd buy coffee in a can. The
only one I liked was that type.


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On 5/16/2014 8:49 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2014 19:49:33 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> You're supposed to sprinkle the salt in the ground coffee before you
>> brew it. Many moons ago (when I was married) I had to buy really cheap
>> coffee. A pinch of salt made it almost okay.
>
> Never heard of the salt thing before this thread. I thought that's
> what chicory was supposed to do. Back in the day when we didn't buy
> fresh coffee beans at the grocery store, I'd buy coffee in a can. The
> only one I liked was that type.
>
>
I had never heard of chickory back then (1982). I don't remember who
told me to add a pinch of salt to the coffee grinds.

Jill

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/16/2014 9:42 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> I put double cream in my coffee so not too far removed do you think?
>
> Same here, on the double cream. My coffee is decaff, though.

Don't suppose the cream will care ... ;-)


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"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 16 May 2014 23:04:24 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2014 15:42:22 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/15/2014 8:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>>>>> Butter in coffee? No thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, I don't do it, either, but I don't think it tastes terrible and I
>>>>> think a lot of people would like it if they tried it.
>>>>
>>>>I put double cream in my coffee so not too far removed do you think?
>>>
>>> Not very... as close as you'll ever get.
>>>
>>> I put a splash of normal cream in a tall glass, then make a double
>>> latte with full cream milk. Been making them for so long now each and
>>> every morning, I'm sure I could make them blindfolded.
>>> I'm having one right now...
>>
>>Cool Too late for me, just after 11pm and I do want to sleep)
>
> Have a brandy instead?

Good thinking batman <g>

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On Fri, 16 May 2014 17:57:47 -0500, Ema Nymton >
wrote:

> On 5/16/2014 9:42 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> > I put double cream in my coffee so not too far removed do you think?
>
> Same here, on the double cream. My coffee is decaff, though.
>

I will put leftover whipping cream in my coffee to use it up, but
AFAIC 18–30% fat is enough richness for DtD coffee drinking.


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