I've always liked 'soda' (carbonated) water. I recently purchased a
"sodastream" machine and I have to say it's the best thing next to
sliced bread - heheheh !!!! There was a 'sale' at BB&B, and I was
able to use a 20%-off coupon - so I basically paid $60 for a 'unit'.
SodaStream "Genesis" at $99 - with 20%-off coupon - then 20% off $80 -
with mail-in rebate! Included 2 (two) 1-liter bottles - and a CO2
canister that's good (supposedly???) for 60 liters. Don't know about
that yet.

Exchange for the (so-called) 60-liter CO2 canister (it's not a
"cartridge") is $14.99 - if the prices haven't changed in the past week
or so .. . Its sort of a half size of a KIDDE home extinguisher - for
description size - HTH.

Sky, who's a happy camper and likes carbonated/seltzered water

Er, $99 with $20 rebate - but before that was a 20%-off coupon - do the
math hhehehe

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> I've always liked 'soda' (carbonated) water. I recently purchased a
> "sodastream" machine and I have to say it's the best thing next to
> sliced bread - heheheh !!!! There was a 'sale' at BB&B, and I was
> able to use a 20%-off coupon - so I basically paid $60 for a 'unit'.
> SodaStream "Genesis" at $99 - with 20%-off coupon - then 20% off $80
> - with mail-in rebate! Included 2 (two) 1-liter bottles - and a CO2
> canister that's good (supposedly???) for 60 liters. Don't know about
> that yet.
>
> Exchange for the (so-called) 60-liter CO2 canister (it's not a
> "cartridge") is $14.99 - if the prices haven't changed in the past
> week or so .. . Its sort of a half size of a KIDDE home
> extinguisher - for description size - HTH.
>
> Sky, who's a happy camper and likes carbonated/seltzered water
>
> Er, $99 with $20 rebate - but before that was a 20%-off coupon - do
> the math hhehehe
>
Could you use it to put bubbles in white wine? I like wine much better
when it has bubbles.
Turn this--
http://www.tastings.com/scout_wine.lasso?id=202457
into this--
http://sourmashed.com/2012/11/review...nia-champagne/
>



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the family car she'd driven into the Mississippi river!"
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On Fri, 16 May 2014 13:54:30 +0000 (UTC), "Winters_Lackey"
> wrote:
> >
> Could you use it to put bubbles in white wine? I like wine much better
> when it has bubbles.
> Turn this--
> http://www.tastings.com/scout_wine.lasso?id=202457
> into this--
> http://sourmashed.com/2012/11/review...nia-champagne/
> >

No idea, but why not? It won't be champagne, but fizzy wine (the kind
that is normally still) is liked by some. Not me. Some.

Have you ever tried a Bellini? OMG, they are so good I'm thinking
about making my own peach nectar or puree this summer for winter
holiday breakfast bellini (not a mimosa fan, I've tried but just don't
like it). Bellini recipes call for prosecco, which tastes like cheap
sweet champagne to me - so Andre would work. No point in wasting
decent champagne on something you're going to adulterate with fruit.


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"Sky" > wrote in message
...
> I've always liked 'soda' (carbonated) water. I recently purchased a
> "sodastream" machine and I have to say it's the best thing next to sliced
> bread - heheheh !!!! There was a 'sale' at BB&B, and I was able to use
> a 20%-off coupon - so I basically paid $60 for a 'unit'.
> SodaStream "Genesis" at $99 - with 20%-off coupon - then 20% off $80 -
> with mail-in rebate! Included 2 (two) 1-liter bottles - and a CO2 canister
> that's good (supposedly???) for 60 liters. Don't know about that yet.
>
> Exchange for the (so-called) 60-liter CO2 canister (it's not a
> "cartridge") is $14.99 - if the prices haven't changed in the past week or
> so .. . Its sort of a half size of a KIDDE home extinguisher - for
> description size - HTH.
>
> Sky, who's a happy camper and likes carbonated/seltzered water
>
> Er, $99 with $20 rebate - but before that was a 20%-off coupon - do the
> math hhehehe
>

You canb convert the unit very easily to take a standard CO2 bottle which
will last much longer than those little cartridges. CO2 gas is dirt cheap.
One bottle can carbonate over 5000 glasses of water. In fact you don't even
need the SS, you can do it yourself with off the shelf components.



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sf > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 16 May 2014 13:54:30 +0000 (UTC), "Winters_Lackey"
> > wrote:
>> >
>> Could you use it to put bubbles in white wine? I like wine much
>> better when it has bubbles.
>> Turn this--
>> http://www.tastings.com/scout_wine.lasso?id=202457
>> into this--
>> http://sourmashed.com/2012/11/review...ifornia-champa
>> gne/
>> >
>
> No idea, but why not? It won't be champagne, but fizzy wine (the kind
> that is normally still) is liked by some. Not me. Some.
>
> Have you ever tried a Bellini? OMG, they are so good I'm thinking
> about making my own peach nectar or puree this summer for winter
> holiday breakfast bellini (not a mimosa fan, I've tried but just don't
> like it). Bellini recipes call for prosecco, which tastes like cheap
> sweet champagne to me - so Andre would work. No point in wasting
> decent champagne on something you're going to adulterate with fruit.
>
That seems delicious, and I'll probably try it, maybe with several
different fruits. My usual way of dealing with cheap, bubbly white is to
drink it like sodapop or cheap beer. Cheap, non-bubbly white typically
gets poured over ice.
>



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"Happy ****ing 'new years' that was when me and my father
had to identify her dead mud covered body they pulled from
the family car she'd driven into the Mississippi river!"
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"Winters_Lackey" > wrote in message
...
> sf > wrote in
> :
>
>> On Fri, 16 May 2014 13:54:30 +0000 (UTC), "Winters_Lackey"
>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> Could you use it to put bubbles in white wine? I like wine much
>>> better when it has bubbles.
>>> Turn this--
>>> http://www.tastings.com/scout_wine.lasso?id=202457
>>> into this--
>>> http://sourmashed.com/2012/11/review...ifornia-champa
>>> gne/
>>> >
>>
>> No idea, but why not? It won't be champagne, but fizzy wine (the kind
>> that is normally still) is liked by some. Not me. Some.
>>
>> Have you ever tried a Bellini? OMG, they are so good I'm thinking
>> about making my own peach nectar or puree this summer for winter
>> holiday breakfast bellini (not a mimosa fan, I've tried but just don't
>> like it). Bellini recipes call for prosecco, which tastes like cheap
>> sweet champagne to me - so Andre would work. No point in wasting
>> decent champagne on something you're going to adulterate with fruit.
>>
> That seems delicious, and I'll probably try it, maybe with several
> different fruits. My usual way of dealing with cheap, bubbly white is to
> drink it like sodapop or cheap beer. Cheap, non-bubbly white typically
> gets poured over ice.


Carbonated cheap (Gallo) burgundy wine served chilled is not at all bad for
picnics and BBQs etc. Same for Sangria. I'd not serve it to the Queen of
England but for our little lot it's OK.



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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in
:

>
> "Winters_Lackey" > wrote in message
> ...
>> sf > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2014 13:54:30 +0000 (UTC), "Winters_Lackey"
>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> Could you use it to put bubbles in white wine? I like wine much
>>>> better when it has bubbles.
>>>> Turn this--
>>>> http://www.tastings.com/scout_wine.lasso?id=202457
>>>> into this--
>>>> http://sourmashed.com/2012/11/review...ry-california-
champagne/
>>>> >
>>>
>>> No idea, but why not? It won't be champagne, but fizzy wine (the
>>> kind that is normally still) is liked by some. Not me. Some.
>>>
>>> Have you ever tried a Bellini? OMG, they are so good I'm thinking
>>> about making my own peach nectar or puree this summer for winter
>>> holiday breakfast bellini (not a mimosa fan, I've tried but just
>>> don't like it). Bellini recipes call for prosecco, which tastes
>>> like cheap sweet champagne to me - so Andre would work. No point in
>>> wasting decent champagne on something you're going to adulterate
>>> with fruit.
>>>
>> That seems delicious, and I'll probably try it, maybe with several
>> different fruits. My usual way of dealing with cheap, bubbly white
>> is to drink it like sodapop or cheap beer. Cheap, non-bubbly white
>> typically gets poured over ice.
>
>
> Carbonated cheap (Gallo) burgundy wine served chilled is not at all
> bad for picnics and BBQs etc. Same for Sangria. I'd not serve it to
> the Queen of England but for our little lot it's OK.
>
I don't really like the taste of red wines, and to tell you the truth,
the only alcoholic beverages that I enjoy for the taste are super hoppy
beers, and certain brandies/liquers like Calvados or Chambord. Since I
think that it doesn't taste appreciably worse than any other of the
****water canoe beers, I mostly drink Milwaukee's Best Light. IMO, it
tastes not much worse than Lite by Miller, no worse than Bud Select, and
not as bad as Bud Light or Coors Light. It's low in carbs, and low in
price. It is very different from the regular Milwukee's Best which is
pretty awful.
>



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had to identify her dead mud covered body they pulled from
the family car she'd driven into the Mississippi river!"
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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 16 May 2014 13:54:30 +0000 (UTC), "Winters_Lackey"
> > wrote:
>> >
>> Could you use it to put bubbles in white wine? I like wine much better
>> when it has bubbles.
>> Turn this--
>> http://www.tastings.com/scout_wine.lasso?id=202457
>> into this--
>> http://sourmashed.com/2012/11/review...nia-champagne/
>> >
>
> No idea, but why not? It won't be champagne, but fizzy wine (the kind
> that is normally still) is liked by some. Not me. Some.
>
> Have you ever tried a Bellini? OMG, they are so good I'm thinking
> about making my own peach nectar or puree this summer for winter
> holiday breakfast bellini (not a mimosa fan, I've tried but just don't
> like it). Bellini recipes call for prosecco, which tastes like cheap
> sweet champagne to me - so Andre would work. No point in wasting
> decent champagne on something you're going to adulterate with fruit.
>
The online reviews of Soda Stream were not good. Apparently it doesn't
produce a lot of fizz and the fizz goes flat quickly.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in
:

>>
> The online reviews of Soda Stream were not good. Apparently it
> doesn't produce a lot of fizz and the fizz goes flat quickly.
>

Had mine for years, makes plenty of fizz and lasts as long as bottled
soda...

"Alan Holbrook" > wrote in message
. 30...
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
> :
>
>>>
>> The online reviews of Soda Stream were not good. Apparently it
>> doesn't produce a lot of fizz and the fizz goes flat quickly.
>>
>
> Had mine for years, makes plenty of fizz and lasts as long as bottled
> soda...

Which isn't long, I think. That's why if I do buy bottled, it's only the
single ones. A 2 liter will go flat on me.

"Julie Bove" wrote:
>"Alan Holbrook" wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>
>>> The online reviews of Soda Stream were not good. Apparently it
>>> doesn't produce a lot of fizz and the fizz goes flat quickly.
>>>
>>
>> Had mine for years, makes plenty of fizz and lasts as long as bottled
>> soda...

By the time you pay for the machine, the flavoring, and especially the
charger it costs more than buying 2 liter bottles at the market...
plus it's a PIA to make.... I see no savings or convenience.

>Which isn't long, I think. That's why if I do buy bottled, it's only the
>single ones. A 2 liter will go flat on me.

Two liter Coke keeps well carbonated for me in the fridge for three
days... trick is to squeeze out the air before capping.

On Sat, 17 May 2014 01:21:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "Alan Holbrook" > wrote in message
> . 30...
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in
> > :
> >
> >>>
> >> The online reviews of Soda Stream were not good. Apparently it
> >> doesn't produce a lot of fizz and the fizz goes flat quickly.
> >>
> >
> > Had mine for years, makes plenty of fizz and lasts as long as bottled
> > soda...
>
> Which isn't long, I think. That's why if I do buy bottled, it's only the
> single ones. A 2 liter will go flat on me.

They invented soda stream so you can do it by the glass.


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Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> Two liter Coke keeps well carbonated for me in the fridge for three
> days... trick is to squeeze out the air before capping.

Very wrong, my friend. Trick is to keep all the air in before capping.
If you squeeze it all out, the carbonation in the soda will leek out
to fill the container.

I drink a 2-liter diet rootbeer once a week at work. The carbonation
only lasts a day or two but the rest of the week, I still like the
flavor even though it has gone flat.

G.

On 2014-05-17 12:45 PM, Gary wrote:
> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> Two liter Coke keeps well carbonated for me in the fridge for three
>> days... trick is to squeeze out the air before capping.
>
> Very wrong, my friend. Trick is to keep all the air in before capping.
> If you squeeze it all out, the carbonation in the soda will leek out
> to fill the container.
>
> I drink a 2-liter diet rootbeer once a week at work. The carbonation
> only lasts a day or two but the rest of the week, I still like the
> flavor even though it has gone flat.
>

My late BiL was an engineer and he espoused the squeezing out idea. I
never understood that. It takes little pressure to push the bottle back
into shape, so the carbonation can easily escape. If the bottle is
intact there is slightly more pressure to overcome. We once had a
gadget that was supposed to seal the bottle and you could pump pressure
into it. It worked great.... in theory.

I rarely buy large containers of soft drinks. I realize that it is a lot
cheaper to buy them that way, but I just don't drink enough of that
stuff to make it worth while. I have 2-3 cans of pop per month so I just
get 12 packs and each one last months.

On Sat, 17 May 2014 18:03:21 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-05-17 12:45 PM, Gary wrote:
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>> Two liter Coke keeps well carbonated for me in the fridge for three
>>> days... trick is to squeeze out the air before capping.
>>
>> Very wrong, my friend. Trick is to keep all the air in before capping.
>> If you squeeze it all out, the carbonation in the soda will leek out
>> to fill the container.
>>
>> I drink a 2-liter diet rootbeer once a week at work. The carbonation
>> only lasts a day or two but the rest of the week, I still like the
>> flavor even though it has gone flat.
>>
>
>My late BiL was an engineer and he espoused the squeezing out idea. I
>never understood that. It takes little pressure to push the bottle back
>into shape, so the carbonation can easily escape. If the bottle is
>intact there is slightly more pressure to overcome. We once had a
>gadget that was supposed to seal the bottle and you could pump pressure
>into it. It worked great.... in theory.
>
>I rarely buy large containers of soft drinks. I realize that it is a lot
>cheaper to buy them that way, but I just don't drink enough of that
>stuff to make it worth while. I have 2-3 cans of pop per month so I just
>get 12 packs and each one last months.

It's really quite simple, if the plastic bottle is squeezed so that
there is little to no head room above the liquid then there is nowhere
for the carbonation to go so it stays in the liquid. When one leaves
a large airspace above the liquid it's about the same as leaving the
cap off. Carbonation dissolves into that air space about the same as
it does into the atmosphere... and as the soda is consumed that air
space/atmosphere enlarges. When the plastic bottle is squeezed so
that the air space above the liquid is kept to a minimum it's almost
the same as though the bottle cap was never removed. I don't see
what's so difficult to comprehend.

On 2014-05-17 22:12, Brooklyn1 wrote:

>> My late BiL was an engineer and he espoused the squeezing out idea. I
>> never understood that. It takes little pressure to push the bottle back
>> into shape, so the carbonation can easily escape. If the bottle is
>> intact there is slightly more pressure to overcome. We once had a
>> gadget that was supposed to seal the bottle and you could pump pressure
>> into it. It worked great.... in theory.
>>
>> I rarely buy large containers of soft drinks. I realize that it is a lot
>> cheaper to buy them that way, but I just don't drink enough of that
>> stuff to make it worth while. I have 2-3 cans of pop per month so I just
>> get 12 packs and each one last months.
>
> It's really quite simple, if the plastic bottle is squeezed so that
> there is little to no head room above the liquid then there is nowhere
> for the carbonation to go so it stays in the liquid. When one leaves
> a large airspace above the liquid it's about the same as leaving the
> cap off. Carbonation dissolves into that air space about the same as
> it does into the atmosphere... and as the soda is consumed that air
> space/atmosphere enlarges. When the plastic bottle is squeezed so
> that the air space above the liquid is kept to a minimum it's almost
> the same as though the bottle cap was never removed. I don't see
> what's so difficult to comprehend.

Sounds good in theory, but it doesn't work As I pointed out, the bottle
can pop back out to it's normal shape with little pressure.
>

On 5/17/2014 10:05 PM, barbie gee wrote:
>
> my question with that thing is can you add fizz to juices, or can you
> only fizz up water and then add the water to juice or juice
> concentrate? I don't see the point of fizzing the water then having to
> buy their "flavorings".

The directions say to add the flavor after carbonation. I don't really
need the flavors since I quite like soda water. I'm very satisfied with
my purchase and the way the machine works. I drink about a liter of
soda water per day. Sure beats hauling 2-liter bottles from the store,
to the car, the to the inside of home.

Sky

Brooklyn1 > wrote in
:

>
> By the time you pay for the machine, the flavoring, and especially the
> charger it costs more than buying 2 liter bottles at the market...
> plus it's a PIA to make.... I see no savings or convenience.
>

All probably true, but since I got mine as a gift, it isn't relevant in
this case. And the flavoring _is_ pretty pricey. I doubt I would have
bought one on my own, even being the gadget freak that I am. That having
been said, I still find it fizzy enough and long lasting enough to suit my
uses.

On 5/17/2014 8:57 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> Two liter Coke keeps well carbonated for me in the fridge for three
> days... trick is to squeeze out the air before capping.
>
I'll have to try that to see how it works. I buy so little carbonated
drinks, though, that by the time I do purchase a bottle I'll have
forgotten that trick! (-:

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On Sun, 18 May 2014 03:12:37 -0500, Alan Holbrook >
wrote:

>Brooklyn1 > wrote in
:
>
>>
>> By the time you pay for the machine, the flavoring, and especially the
>> charger it costs more than buying 2 liter bottles at the market...
>> plus it's a PIA to make.... I see no savings or convenience.
>>
>
>All probably true, but since I got mine as a gift, it isn't relevant in
>this case. And the flavoring _is_ pretty pricey. I doubt I would have
>bought one on my own, even being the gadget freak that I am. That having
>been said, I still find it fizzy enough and long lasting enough to suit my
>uses.

Now is they came up with a Beer Stream...

On Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:26:28 AM UTC-7, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 18 May 2014 03:12:37 -0500, Alan Holbrook >

> >> By the time you pay for the machine, the flavoring, and especially the
> >> charger it costs more than buying 2 liter bottles at the market...
> >> plus it's a PIA to make.... I see no savings or convenience.
>

> >All probably true, but since I got mine as a gift, it isn't relevant in
> >this case. And the flavoring _is_ pretty pricey. I doubt I would have
> >bought one on my own, even being the gadget freak that I am. That having
> >been said, I still find it fizzy enough and long lasting enough to suit my
> >uses.
>
>
>
> Now is they came up with a Beer Stream...

A couple years ago we walked through a Surly Table, and noticed two items
at a deep discount: a Soda Stream and a Krups BeerTender. The BeerTender
sits on a countertop or bar, and keeps at drinking temperature a five-liter
can of Heineken or Newcastle Brown Ale.
New

DreadfulBitch wrote:
>
> On 5/17/2014 8:57 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> > Two liter Coke keeps well carbonated for me in the fridge for three
> > days... trick is to squeeze out the air before capping.
> >
> I'll have to try that to see how it works. I buy so little carbonated
> drinks, though, that by the time I do purchase a bottle I'll have
> forgotten that trick! (-:

I actually plan to definitely try that the next time I go to the
store. I'll buy two, 2-liter bottles. I'll pour half of each out, put
a cap on one and squeeze the other before capping. Wait 2-3 days and
see what the result is.

I suspect the squeezed one will work. My old theory was that the co2
in the soda would expand the plastic bottle and therefor lose the fizz
sooner. I now suspect I was wrong. If that container doesn't expand,
I'm sure it will hold more fizz.

G.

On 2014-05-18 11:50 AM, Gary wrote:
> DreadfulBitch wrote:
>>
>> On 5/17/2014 8:57 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> Two liter Coke keeps well carbonated for me in the fridge for three
>>> days... trick is to squeeze out the air before capping.
>>>
>> I'll have to try that to see how it works. I buy so little carbonated
>> drinks, though, that by the time I do purchase a bottle I'll have
>> forgotten that trick! (-:
>
> I actually plan to definitely try that the next time I go to the
> store. I'll buy two, 2-liter bottles. I'll pour half of each out, put
> a cap on one and squeeze the other before capping. Wait 2-3 days and
> see what the result is.
>
> I suspect the squeezed one will work. My old theory was that the co2
> in the soda would expand the plastic bottle and therefor lose the fizz
> sooner. I now suspect I was wrong. If that container doesn't expand,
> I'm sure it will hold more fizz.
>


How much COtwo do you think is released before the pressure equalizes?
Not that much. They leave only a small amount of room in freshly popped
sodas.

wrote in
:

> On Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:26:28 AM UTC-7, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 May 2014 03:12:37 -0500, Alan Holbrook
>>
>> Now is they came up with a Beer Stream...
>
> A couple years ago we walked through a Surly Table, and noticed two
> items at a deep discount: a Soda Stream and a Krups BeerTender. The
> BeerTender sits on a countertop or bar, and keeps at drinking
> temperature a five-liter
> can of Heineken or Newcastle Brown Ale.
> New
>

U'mmm, Brooklyn1 said "a beer stream". Personal opinion, Newcastle Brown
is drinkable if nothing else is available, but Heineken is a joke. When I
was going to Amsterdam regularly on business, the guys at the local office
were always laughing at the tourists who ordered Heineken. They said in
the Netherlands Heineken has the same place as Bud in the US.

If Krups and the rest would bring out some decent beers in those mini kegs,
I'd sign up.