"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/22/2014 3:04 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>> All seems pretty self evident to me, but from looking at houses, I'm
>>> amazed at what people expect you to ignore. I'd be embarrassed to
>>> invite someone in, never mind think I'm making a good impression.
>>> Piles of laundry, dust everywhere. Makes you wonder if they took
>>> care of the house at all.
>>
>> lol I would be embarrassed if I allowed my house to get into that state,
>> let alone invite someone over to inspect it))
>
> Heh ... I'm not there to judge anyone's housekeeping but I was
> pretty surprised at the conditions of some places I saw. You
> just know their realtor was telling them You have to put all
> this stuff away, and declutter and clean.

I wonder if they listened ...

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On 5/22/2014 5:12 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> Heh ... I'm not there to judge anyone's housekeeping but I was
>> pretty surprised at the conditions of some places I saw. You
>> just know their realtor was telling them You have to put all
>> this stuff away, and declutter and clean.
>
> I wonder if they listened ...

I'm going with no. (laugh)

nancy

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> But some colors of paint are difficult to paint over.

Depends on the new colors. 2 coats are normal. Sometimes a 3rd coat is
required.

G.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> My point was PAINT shouldn't be the deciding factor when thinking about
> buying a house.

Absolutely not.

On 5/22/2014 4:49 PM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> But some colors of paint are difficult to paint over.
>
> Depends on the new colors. 2 coats are normal. Sometimes a 3rd coat is
> required.
>
> G.
>
There are base coats available that will prevent an undercoat from
bleeding through. Cheaper to use the undercoat material than all that
expensive paint.

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On Thu, 22 May 2014 13:43:54 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> On 5/22/2014 1:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > When my mother died and we per her condo up for sale the real estate
> > agent agent suggested that we declutter. First of all, she didn't want
> > valuable objects sitting out in case they disappeared while she was
> > there with prospective buyers. She wanted us to remove small tables, get
> > rid of everything on the kitchen counter to make it look larger. Take
> > some stuff out of the cupboards so they looked roomier.
>
> All seems pretty self evident to me, but from looking at houses, I'm
> amazed at what people expect you to ignore. I'd be embarrassed to
> invite someone in, never mind think I'm making a good impression.
> Piles of laundry, dust everywhere. Makes you wonder if they took
> care of the house at all.
>

I bet they are renters.


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"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Thu, 22 May 2014 05:47:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Wed, 21 May 2014 23:45:41 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> But some colors of paint are difficult to paint over.
>> >
>> > So use the proper type of base coat. It's still just paint.
>>
>> You might not see painting as a big deal. I do! And I don't like to do
>> it.
>
> You just made the point that there really are people who will reject
> an otherwise acceptable house based solely on paint color. That's why
> competent realtors tell sellers to repaint in neutral colors before
> they put their home on the market. People who want to sell quickly
> and for top dollar, declutter and depersonalize their homes first.
>
Not really. I would probably just go with whatever colors were in there as
I hate to paint. Heck we were in here for 8 years before I decided to take
the wallpaper down in the kitchen and then paint.

We didn't really have the option of painting anything when we moved in here.
We had nothing with us save for what we had packed in the van. Plenty of
time, but no ladders or anything and I wasn't about to buy this stuff as it
was coming in the moving van.

However, I suppose it I were to see a house painted inside in all dark
colors or even heavily wallpapered I would probably give it a go unless the
seller was willing to knock the price down. Why? Would cost a pretty penny
to pay someone to redo all that stuff.

On Thu, 22 May 2014 18:29:24 +0100, Janet > wrote:

> You can't please some people. A recent guest here complained about
> "noisy birds in the garden" which woke her at dawn :-)

That's for sure on both points! I was raised in the woods, next to a
lake and there was non-stop racket 24-7 with between the noises of
frogs and crickets all night and birds all day. The city is much
quieter.


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On 5/22/2014 6:48 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 22 May 2014 18:29:24 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>> You can't please some people. A recent guest here complained about
>> "noisy birds in the garden" which woke her at dawn :-)
>
> That's for sure on both points! I was raised in the woods, next to a
> lake and there was non-stop racket 24-7 with between the noises of
> frogs and crickets all night and birds all day. The city is much
> quieter.
>
>
Ah, I love the sound of birds and frogs. Oddly, I can't say I've ever
seen, much less heard, a cricket here. There is a small non-commercial
airport not far from here. I occasionally hear the planes fly over but
mostly I just tune them out.

Jill

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 22 May 2014 18:29:24 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>> You can't please some people. A recent guest here complained about
>> "noisy birds in the garden" which woke her at dawn :-)
>
> That's for sure on both points! I was raised in the woods, next to a
> lake and there was non-stop racket 24-7 with between the noises of
> frogs and crickets all night and birds all day. The city is much
> quieter.

That's what noise machines are for. I have mine set to deep sounding rain
and don't hear outside racket of any kind.

Cheri

On Thu, 22 May 2014 18:25:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 22 May 2014 18:29:24 +0100, Janet > wrote:
> >
> >> You can't please some people. A recent guest here complained about
> >> "noisy birds in the garden" which woke her at dawn :-)
> >
> > That's for sure on both points! I was raised in the woods, next to a
> > lake and there was non-stop racket 24-7 with between the noises of
> > frogs and crickets all night and birds all day. The city is much
> > quieter.
>
> That's what noise machines are for. I have mine set to deep sounding rain
> and don't hear outside racket of any kind.
>
I don't think those existed when I was a kid and have never needed it
as an adult, but DD uses an air filter/ionizer fan as white noise at
her house so the kids don't bother each other if one wakes up when
everybody is asleep. I was surprised by how well it works.


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...

> It all depends on what you are used to. I remember a friend coming to
> stay at that house and she had the same reaction I'd had on first hearing
> that noise. It took me a few moments to figure out what she was talking
> about

The house I grew up on was near a busy road. But you couldn't hear that
anywhere else in the house but my bedroom. Also, my bedroom was at the end
of the house, over the garage so it got very cold during the winter. I used
to complain of these things but nobody believed me until I had move out and
my mom tried to sleep in that room. She couldn't.

So because I was used to the traffic noise, I had a horrible time sleeping
if I was anywhere that was quiet. When I lived in house in the woods, I
couldn't sleep until I heard a bus go by. The sound of the bus put me right
to sleep.

I have managed to adjust over the years. When I lived above that dance
studio I was 3 feet from a very busy highway. Not only could I never get
the room totally dark no matter what I did but it was never ever quiet. I
was fine with it but others who stayed the night had a hard time with it.

I don't need the traffic noise now. My room is at the back of the house.
It's quiet save for the birds or someone working in their yard or the
construction next door. I could do without the construction though.

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>
>> I would reject some paint colors as they would be difficult to paint
>> over.
>> Like red.
>
> Rubbish. Painting a red wall white is no harder (and no more
> expensive) than painting a white wall red (I've done both). Use
> professional-quality paint and you'll find it far LESS work than using
> cheap paint to painting a pale wall a different pale colour.

Not from what I've seen on TV. And I have never used cheap paint.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/22/2014 1:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> When my mother died and we per her condo up for sale the real estate
>> agent agent suggested that we declutter. First of all, she didn't want
>> valuable objects sitting out in case they disappeared while she was
>> there with prospective buyers. She wanted us to remove small tables, get
>> rid of everything on the kitchen counter to make it look larger. Take
>> some stuff out of the cupboards so they looked roomier.
>
> All seems pretty self evident to me, but from looking at houses, I'm
> amazed at what people expect you to ignore. I'd be embarrassed to
> invite someone in, never mind think I'm making a good impression.
> Piles of laundry, dust everywhere. Makes you wonder if they took
> care of the house at all.
>
> nancy

Even in some of those pictures at home.com. What do I think when I see a
house full of cheap little storage carts? There isn't enough storage room.
Counters fully covered with stuff in the kitchen? Again... Not enough
storage space.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> But some colors of paint are difficult to paint over.
>
> Depends on the new colors. 2 coats are normal. Sometimes a 3rd coat is
> required.

They told me I would probably need 3 coats with the yellow that I used in
the kitchen but I was fine with 2. I have just seen remodeling shows on TV
where the professionals had trouble covering a dark wall well.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 22 May 2014 18:25:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 22 May 2014 18:29:24 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>> >
>> >> You can't please some people. A recent guest here complained about
>> >> "noisy birds in the garden" which woke her at dawn :-)
>> >
>> > That's for sure on both points! I was raised in the woods, next to a
>> > lake and there was non-stop racket 24-7 with between the noises of
>> > frogs and crickets all night and birds all day. The city is much
>> > quieter.
>>
>> That's what noise machines are for. I have mine set to deep sounding rain
>> and don't hear outside racket of any kind.
>>
> I don't think those existed when I was a kid and have never needed it
> as an adult, but DD uses an air filter/ionizer fan as white noise at
> her house so the kids don't bother each other if one wakes up when
> everybody is asleep. I was surprised by how well it works.

Yes, that would be a great use.

Cheri

On 5/22/2014 9:25 PM, Cheri wrote:
> That's what noise machines are for. I have mine set to deep sounding
> rain and don't hear outside racket of any kind.
>
> Cheri

I have a sound machine, love that thing! I also run the ceiling fan.
If, for some reason, the power goes off during the night (a rarity), I
wake right up. I cannot sleep in absolute silence. When I was
travelling I'd run the fan in the hotel bathroom.

A funny: I once took the sound machine on a trip in my checked luggage.
That was the only time I've ever gotten to my destination and found a
sticker indicating TSA had opened and inspected my luggage. I can only
imagine what that little machine must have looked like when it went
through the x-ray machine! LOL

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/22/2014 9:25 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> That's what noise machines are for. I have mine set to deep sounding
>> rain and don't hear outside racket of any kind.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I have a sound machine, love that thing! I also run the ceiling fan. If,
> for some reason, the power goes off during the night (a rarity), I wake
> right up. I cannot sleep in absolute silence. When I was travelling I'd
> run the fan in the hotel bathroom.
>
> A funny: I once took the sound machine on a trip in my checked luggage.
> That was the only time I've ever gotten to my destination and found a
> sticker indicating TSA had opened and inspected my luggage. I can only
> imagine what that little machine must have looked like when it went
> through the x-ray machine! LOL

How big is it and what does it look like?

In our bedroom I have a fan and and an air purifier on constantly (because
of the asthma) and if they are not on, it is too quiet for me to sleep
properly All depends what we are used to)


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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/22/2014 9:25 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> That's what noise machines are for. I have mine set to deep sounding
>> rain and don't hear outside racket of any kind.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I have a sound machine, love that thing! I also run the ceiling fan. If,
> for some reason, the power goes off during the night (a rarity), I wake
> right up. I cannot sleep in absolute silence. When I was travelling I'd
> run the fan in the hotel bathroom.
>
> A funny: I once took the sound machine on a trip in my checked luggage.
> That was the only time I've ever gotten to my destination and found a
> sticker indicating TSA had opened and inspected my luggage. I can only
> imagine what that little machine must have looked like when it went
> through the x-ray machine! LOL
>
> Jill

Same with me. I do have a fan going too, and I immediately wake up if the
power goes off. If I go out of town, I take my sound machine with me.

Cheri

On 5/23/2014 9:26 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/22/2014 9:25 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>> That's what noise machines are for. I have mine set to deep sounding
>>> rain and don't hear outside racket of any kind.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> I have a sound machine, love that thing! I also run the ceiling fan.
>> If, for some reason, the power goes off during the night (a rarity), I
>> wake right up. I cannot sleep in absolute silence. When I was
>> travelling I'd run the fan in the hotel bathroom.
>>
>> A funny: I once took the sound machine on a trip in my checked
>> luggage. That was the only time I've ever gotten to my destination and
>> found a sticker indicating TSA had opened and inspected my luggage. I
>> can only imagine what that little machine must have looked like when
>> it went through the x-ray machine! LOL
>
> How big is it and what does it look like?
>
I don't have the same one as I did then. It was just a small round
"machine" with buttons for different sounds on the top and a volume
knob. It was maybe 6 inches across and 5 deep.

This is what I have now, although I didn't pay anything near this price:

http://www.soap.com/p/adaptive-sound...AID=1323244259

or tiny:

http://tinyurl.com/q8uaynw

It's not very big. These machines have gotten soooo much better over
the years.

> In our bedroom I have a fan and and an air purifier on constantly
> (because of the asthma) and if they are not on, it is too quiet for me
> to sleep properly All depends what we are used to)
>
Absolutely! In my case, it probably goes back to when we lived in
Bangkok. Dad rented a lovely house for us but it had no air
conditioning. It's hot in Thailand! LOL He had window AC's installed
in the bedrooms so we could at least sleep comfortably. Guess I got
used to the white noise. When we returned to the States I had a heck of
a time adjusting to the silence; had to run a fan.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/23/2014 9:26 AM, Ophelia wrote:

>> How big is it and what does it look like?
>>
> I don't have the same one as I did then. It was just a small round
> "machine" with buttons for different sounds on the top and a volume knob.
> It was maybe 6 inches across and 5 deep.
>
> This is what I have now, although I didn't pay anything near this price:
>
> http://www.soap.com/p/adaptive-sound...AID=1323244259
>
> or tiny:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/q8uaynw
>
> It's not very big. These machines have gotten soooo much better over the
> years.

I used to have this one, but it wore out after many years.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Marsona-1200...em2a3d27 872b



Now, I have this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Marsona-DS-600...+sound+machine

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/23/2014 9:26 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/22/2014 9:25 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> That's what noise machines are for. I have mine set to deep sounding
>>>> rain and don't hear outside racket of any kind.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> I have a sound machine, love that thing! I also run the ceiling fan.
>>> If, for some reason, the power goes off during the night (a rarity), I
>>> wake right up. I cannot sleep in absolute silence. When I was
>>> travelling I'd run the fan in the hotel bathroom.
>>>
>>> A funny: I once took the sound machine on a trip in my checked
>>> luggage. That was the only time I've ever gotten to my destination and
>>> found a sticker indicating TSA had opened and inspected my luggage. I
>>> can only imagine what that little machine must have looked like when
>>> it went through the x-ray machine! LOL
>>
>> How big is it and what does it look like?
>>
> I don't have the same one as I did then. It was just a small round
> "machine" with buttons for different sounds on the top and a volume knob.
> It was maybe 6 inches across and 5 deep.
>
> This is what I have now, although I didn't pay anything near this price:
>
> http://www.soap.com/p/adaptive-sound...AID=1323244259
>
> or tiny:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/q8uaynw
>
> It's not very big. These machines have gotten soooo much better over the
> years.

Oh my! That is completely unknown to me)

Thanks

>
>> In our bedroom I have a fan and and an air purifier on constantly
>> (because of the asthma) and if they are not on, it is too quiet for me
>> to sleep properly All depends what we are used to)
>>
> Absolutely! In my case, it probably goes back to when we lived in
> Bangkok. Dad rented a lovely house for us but it had no air conditioning.
> It's hot in Thailand! LOL He had window AC's installed in the bedrooms so
> we could at least sleep comfortably. Guess I got used to the white noise.
> When we returned to the States I had a heck of a time adjusting to the
> silence; had to run a fan.

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On 5/23/2014 10:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/23/2014 9:26 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 5/22/2014 9:25 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>> That's what noise machines are for. I have mine set to deep sounding
>>>>> rain and don't hear outside racket of any kind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>> I have a sound machine, love that thing! I also run the ceiling fan.
>>>> If, for some reason, the power goes off during the night (a rarity), I
>>>> wake right up. I cannot sleep in absolute silence. When I was
>>>> travelling I'd run the fan in the hotel bathroom.
>>>>
>>>> A funny: I once took the sound machine on a trip in my checked
>>>> luggage. That was the only time I've ever gotten to my destination and
>>>> found a sticker indicating TSA had opened and inspected my luggage. I
>>>> can only imagine what that little machine must have looked like when
>>>> it went through the x-ray machine! LOL
>>>
>>> How big is it and what does it look like?
>>>
>> I don't have the same one as I did then. It was just a small round
>> "machine" with buttons for different sounds on the top and a volume
>> knob. It was maybe 6 inches across and 5 deep.
>>
>> This is what I have now, although I didn't pay anything near this price:
>>
>> http://www.soap.com/p/adaptive-sound...AID=1323244259
>>
>>
>> or tiny:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/q8uaynw
>>
>> It's not very big. These machines have gotten soooo much better over
>> the years.
>
> Oh my! That is completely unknown to me)
>
> Thanks
>
You're welcome. When I first got this machine, I'd only had it a couple
of months when it stopped working. I called customer support. The guy
chuckled. Apparently there was a known problem with some of them. He
said well, I can tell you how to fix it. Take the knob off the front
and then... oh never mind, I'll just send you another one. And he did!
It's been going strong for several years now. That's great customer
service! (I did purchase a second one to have as a backup, since I know
it won't last forever.)

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...

> You're welcome. When I first got this machine, I'd only had it a couple
> of months when it stopped working. I called customer support. The guy
> chuckled. Apparently there was a known problem with some of them. He
> said well, I can tell you how to fix it. Take the knob off the front and
> then... oh never mind, I'll just send you another one. And he did! It's
> been going strong for several years now. That's great customer service!
> (I did purchase a second one to have as a backup, since I know it won't
> last forever.)

Hey, whatever helps you to sleep)

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On 5/23/2014 10:47 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> You're welcome. When I first got this machine, I'd only had it a
>> couple of months when it stopped working. I called customer support.
>> The guy chuckled. Apparently there was a known problem with some of
>> them. He said well, I can tell you how to fix it. Take the knob off
>> the front and then... oh never mind, I'll just send you another one.
>> And he did! It's been going strong for several years now. That's
>> great customer service! (I did purchase a second one to have as a
>> backup, since I know it won't last forever.)
>
> Hey, whatever helps you to sleep)
>
Better this than sleeping pills. It's been a while (knock wood) since I
had a bad bout of insomnia. I can't credit the machine, per se, but
trying to sleep without some sort of background noise would be almost
impossible.

Jill

On 2014-05-23 11:05 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>
> Better this than sleeping pills. It's been a while (knock wood) since I
> had a bad bout of insomnia. I can't credit the machine, per se, but
> trying to sleep without some sort of background noise would be almost
> impossible.


There were nights that I had trouble getting to sleep. I would toss and
turn and fret about not getting enough sleep because I had to get up
early in the morning to go to work. I came to realize that I was not
awake as long as I feared. Somewhere along the line I learned not to
worry about it and slept better.

I also learned not to drink coffee in the evening. One small cup of
coffee after dinner... before 7 pm. It also helps to get lots of
physical exercise.

On 5/23/2014 11:29 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-05-23 11:05 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>
>> Better this than sleeping pills. It's been a while (knock wood) since I
>> had a bad bout of insomnia. I can't credit the machine, per se, but
>> trying to sleep without some sort of background noise would be almost
>> impossible.
>
>
> There were nights that I had trouble getting to sleep. I would toss and
> turn and fret about not getting enough sleep because I had to get up
> early in the morning to go to work. I came to realize that I was not
> awake as long as I feared. Somewhere along the line I learned not to
> worry about it and slept better.
>
Everyone is different. I'd find myself awake around 2:30AM. I know I'd
lightly doze, but I'd still wake up and look at the clock every thirty
minutes or so. When this happens I don't fall into a really deep sleep
until around 5AM. The alarm would go off an hour and a half later.
When this happens, I do not feel rested.

> I also learned not to drink coffee in the evening. One small cup of
> coffee after dinner... before 7 pm. It also helps to get lots of
> physical exercise.
>
I don't drink coffee anymore. When I did, I never drank it in the
evening. Admittedly, I should get more exercise. Still, I've been
sleeping much better the last few weeks. I can't attribute it to
anything specific. I'm just grateful to feel rested when I wake up.

Jill

On Friday, May 23, 2014 1:25:21 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/23/2014 11:29 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > On 2014-05-23 11:05 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>>
>
> >> Better this than sleeping pills. It's been a while (knock wood) since I
>
> >> had a bad bout of insomnia. I can't credit the machine, per se, but
>
> >> trying to sleep without some sort of background noise would be almost
>
> >> impossible.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > There were nights that I had trouble getting to sleep. I would toss and
>
> > turn and fret about not getting enough sleep because I had to get up
>
> > early in the morning to go to work. I came to realize that I was not
>
> > awake as long as I feared. Somewhere along the line I learned not to
>
> > worry about it and slept better.
>
> >
>
> Everyone is different. I'd find myself awake around 2:30AM. I know I'd
>
> lightly doze, but I'd still wake up and look at the clock every thirty
>
> minutes or so. When this happens I don't fall into a really deep sleep
>
> until around 5AM. The alarm would go off an hour and a half later.
>
> When this happens, I do not feel rested.
>
>
>
> > I also learned not to drink coffee in the evening. One small cup of
>
> > coffee after dinner... before 7 pm. It also helps to get lots of
>
> > physical exercise.
>
> >
>
> I don't drink coffee anymore. When I did, I never drank it in the
>
> evening. Admittedly, I should get more exercise. Still, I've been
>
> sleeping much better the last few weeks. I can't attribute it to
>
> anything specific. I'm just grateful to feel rested when I wake up.
>
>
>
> Jill

Why? You ain't got shit to do.

"Cheri" wrote:
>
>Now, I have this one.
>
>http://www.amazon.com/Marsona-DS-600...+sound+machine

I have six sleep inducing sound machines.

On Thu, 22 May 2014 22:52:34 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Thu, 22 May 2014 18:25:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 22 May 2014 18:29:24 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>> >
>> >> You can't please some people. A recent guest here complained about
>> >> "noisy birds in the garden" which woke her at dawn :-)
>> >
>> > That's for sure on both points! I was raised in the woods, next to a
>> > lake and there was non-stop racket 24-7 with between the noises of
>> > frogs and crickets all night and birds all day. The city is much
>> > quieter.
>>
>> That's what noise machines are for. I have mine set to deep sounding rain
>> and don't hear outside racket of any kind.
>>
>I don't think those existed when I was a kid and have never needed it
>as an adult, but DD uses an air filter/ionizer fan as white noise at
>her house.

They've existed since forever... I have one white noise, one black
noise, two tuxedo noise, and two calico noise machines.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> I'm just grateful to feel rested when I wake up.

I like to get up about an hour before it gets light out. Sit out on
the back porch with morning cup of coffee and just enjoy the peaceful
pre-morning. If I get lazy on days off and sleep later, I feel tired
all that day. For that reason, it's very rare that I do sleep in. I
often get up earlier on days off than I do for work days.

Weekly grocery shopping trip for me is 6:00 -6:30 am on Saturdays and
sometimes Sundays too. I just like getting out so I enjoy the
g-shopping then.

G.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 May 2014 22:52:34 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 22 May 2014 18:25:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Thu, 22 May 2014 18:29:24 +0100, Janet > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> You can't please some people. A recent guest here complained about
> >> >> "noisy birds in the garden" which woke her at dawn :-)
> >> >
> >> > That's for sure on both points! I was raised in the woods, next to a
> >> > lake and there was non-stop racket 24-7 with between the noises of
> >> > frogs and crickets all night and birds all day. The city is much
> >> > quieter.
> >>
> >> That's what noise machines are for. I have mine set to deep sounding rain
> >> and don't hear outside racket of any kind.
> >>
> >I don't think those existed when I was a kid and have never needed it
> >as an adult, but DD uses an air filter/ionizer fan as white noise at
> >her house.
>
> They've existed since forever... I have one white noise, one black
> noise, two tuxedo noise, and two calico noise machines.

LOL! The cool kitty purrs. Ferrets don't work..they are mimes.
I use a fan for a bit of white noise, and the tv on all night but
turned down to very low volume.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I'm just grateful to feel rested when I wake up.
>
> I like to get up about an hour before it gets light out. Sit out on
> the back porch with morning cup of coffee and just enjoy the peaceful
> pre-morning. If I get lazy on days off and sleep later, I feel tired
> all that day. For that reason, it's very rare that I do sleep in. I
> often get up earlier on days off than I do for work days.
>
> Weekly grocery shopping trip for me is 6:00 -6:30 am on Saturdays and
> sometimes Sundays too. I just like getting out so I enjoy the
> g-shopping then.
>
> G.

Sounds a lot like me, I like to sit on the patio with coffee before the sun
comes up, and I like to do my shopping etc. early, beating the crowds.

Cheri

On 5/23/2014 6:11 PM, Gary wrote:
> I use a fan for a bit of white noise, and the tv on all night but
> turned down to very low volume.

I tried sleeping with the TV at very low volume but it's not a constant
even sound level. Commercials are often louder. And yes, even with my
eyes closed the light from the TV bugged me. I really like the sound
machine I have. I do also run a fan but that's because I like the room
to be very cool.

Jill

On 5/23/2014 6:11 PM, Gary wrote:

> I use a fan for a bit of white noise, and the tv on all night but
> turned down to very low volume.

I do that sometimes. I put on QVC because, unless someone loud
calls in, the noise level is pretty even.

Of course, I've bought some things I didn't know I needed that
way. Like snow globe Christmas cards and a rake that picks up
leaves.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/23/2014 6:11 PM, Gary wrote:
>
>> I use a fan for a bit of white noise, and the tv on all night but
>> turned down to very low volume.
>
> I do that sometimes. I put on QVC because, unless someone loud
> calls in, the noise level is pretty even.
>
> Of course, I've bought some things I didn't know I needed that
> way. Like snow globe Christmas cards and a rake that picks up
> leaves.

LOL A few years ago I was at home recovering from an illness during which
time there was very little I could do but watch tv. QVC became a soothing
favourite and for a long time after, I was finding things I had bought and
forgotten)


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On 5/24/2014 8:00 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/23/2014 6:11 PM, Gary wrote:
>> I use a fan for a bit of white noise, and the tv on all night but
>> turned down to very low volume.
>
> I tried sleeping with the TV at very low volume but it's not a constant
> even sound level. Commercials are often louder. And yes, even with my
> eyes closed the light from the TV bugged me. I really like the sound
> machine I have. I do also run a fan but that's because I like the room
> to be very cool.
>
> Jill

I sleep with the TV. It doesn't bother me until someone turns it off.

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On 5/24/2014 8:21 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 5/23/2014 6:11 PM, Gary wrote:
>
>> I use a fan for a bit of white noise, and the tv on all night but
>> turned down to very low volume.
>
> I do that sometimes. I put on QVC because, unless someone loud
> calls in, the noise level is pretty even.

I like watching QVC on Saturday morning. Even if I don't buy stuff, I
become aware of current styles.


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"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 5/24/2014 8:00 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/23/2014 6:11 PM, Gary wrote:
>>> I use a fan for a bit of white noise, and the tv on all night but
>>> turned down to very low volume.
>>
>> I tried sleeping with the TV at very low volume but it's not a constant
>> even sound level. Commercials are often louder. And yes, even with my
>> eyes closed the light from the TV bugged me. I really like the sound
>> machine I have. I do also run a fan but that's because I like the room
>> to be very cool.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I sleep with the TV. It doesn't bother me until someone turns it off.

I can't bear it on unless we are actually watching it. As soon as we are
finished it is turned off. Each to his/her own)

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In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...

> I have six sleep inducing sound machines.

You should record their purring and sell CD's. What could be more
peaceful and soothing than cat purring.

Janet UK