On Mon, 26 May 2014 19:11:38 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 5/26/2014 5:22 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 07:31:50 -0300, wrote:
>
>>> You big screen people clearly think people not locked into television
>>> feel 'superior' - far from the case, I rarely think about television.
>>
>> It's an odd sort of attitude, for sure. Almost sad in a way, when you
>> think about it.
>
>I feel like it's the opposite, people who don't watch tv say
>there's only crap on tv, so what they're saying is people who
>watch tv, watch crap.
>
>I don't care if people watch tv or not, and I sure don't look
>down on other people about their tv habits.
>
>Of course, I put the box from my flat screen tv right by the
>garage so everyone who goes by knows I have one and are jealous.
>Harrr.

On 5/26/2014 7:44 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 26 May 2014 19:11:38 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:

Who wrote?

>>>> You big screen people clearly think people not locked into television
>>>> feel 'superior' - far from the case, I rarely think about television.

I wrote:

>> I feel like it's the opposite, people who don't watch tv say
>> there's only crap on tv, so what they're saying is people who
>> watch tv, watch crap.

> Well although I appear to be quoted above, there is not a single thing
> I actually said.

You're saying you did not post the sentence:

You big screen people clearly think people not locked into television
feel 'superior' - far from the case, I rarely think about television.

Because I have the post where you wrote that this morning.

> I did react to Ed and sf both saying I was a
> snobbish and bragging that I didn't watch television, since that is
> not the truth, none of the above sentiments are mine.

This is very confusing. I did see where Ed said some people think
it's a badge of honor that they don't watch tv. I also have this
post the seems to be from you at 6:30 this am that I quoted from
Jebus' post.

nancy

On Mon, 26 May 2014 20:15:20 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 5/26/2014 7:44 PM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 19:11:38 -0400, Nancy Young
>> > wrote:
>
>Who wrote?
>
>>>>> You big screen people clearly think people not locked into television
>>>>> feel 'superior' - far from the case, I rarely think about television.
>
>I wrote:
>
>>> I feel like it's the opposite, people who don't watch tv say
>>> there's only crap on tv, so what they're saying is people who
>>> watch tv, watch crap.
>
>> Well although I appear to be quoted above, there is not a single thing
>> I actually said.
>
>You're saying you did not post the sentence:
>
>You big screen people clearly think people not locked into television
>feel 'superior' - far from the case, I rarely think about television.
>
>Because I have the post where you wrote that this morning.
>
>> I did react to Ed and sf both saying I was a
>> snobbish and bragging that I didn't watch television, since that is
>> not the truth, none of the above sentiments are mine.
>
>This is very confusing. I did see where Ed said some people think
>it's a badge of honor that they don't watch tv. I also have this
>post the seems to be from you at 6:30 this am that I quoted from
>Jebus' post.
>
>nancy

I have at least one TV on 24/7... even when no one is home I leave it
on for the cats. I have a 55" HDTV in the bedroom, it's on all
night... sometimes I wake up to pee and I find something to watch...
at 3 AM Judge Moulion comes on for an hour, followed by Allred...
mindless entertainment puts me to sleep. At 6 AM cats insist I get
out of bed to feed them, they do not give up so there is no point to
ignore them, and then I may as well walk out to the barn to feed those
moochers too. There're two cats living in the barn, they get a can of
Friskies each morning plus dried food and fresh water, at dinner time
I top off their dried and add more water... little guys are doing
well.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 26 May 2014 11:04:48 -0500, Ema Nymton >
> wrote:
>
>>He cooks the best steaks on the grill, but Haliburton moved him to North
>>Dakota, so we will not see him very often.
>
> If he works for Haliburton, then the further away the better, I'd have
> thought.

Why would you say something like that?

Cheri

On Mon, 26 May 2014 15:58:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 25 May 2014 17:40:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Sun, 25 May 2014 16:21:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > On Sun, 25 May 2014 07:38:10 -0300, wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Me too and I think while they aren't great when on, they are even
> >> >> >> uglier when off. To that end my kids gave me a lovely pine cabinet
> >> >> >> years ago and the tv sits within that and I can close the doors and
> >> >> >> nobody would know there is one in the room
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You don't have one of those thin TVs that hang on the wall? There
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > lots of ways to disguise them. My favorite is when a shadow frame
> >> >> > with Mirror-Grade Acrylic coated with a 2-way Mirror Finish goes
> >> >> > over
> >> >> > it and it looks like a framed mirror when turned off.
> >> >> > http://www.pictureframe.tv/
> >> >> > Another way to de-emphasize the TV is to surround it with artwork
> >> >> > http://thedoodlehouse.files.wordpres...eg?w=323&h=400
> >> >>
> >> >> I hate wall TVs. We have one TV in this room. Not sure of the size.
> >> >> Not
> >> >> tiny. Not overly large. We have it on a swivel. We can move it
> >> >> towards
> >> >> the direction of where we are sitting.
> >> >
> >> > Not sure why you'd hate something that does what you need it to do,
> >> > but frankly that's a classic attitude for "you".
> >>
> >> Because AFAIK it *doesn't" do what I need it to do. Can a wall TV
> >> swivel?
> >> Maybe it can. The ones I have seen don't. So if I were to put a TV on
> >> the
> >> wall in this room, it wouldn't be able to be viewed very well unless you
> >> were sitting in the rocking chair. To see it from the couch or my
> >> computer,
> >> it needs to be angled.
> >
> > Yes they swivel. It's called an "arm". Sheesh.
>
> Well, I have not seen those. The one at the dance studio is not on a swivel
> and neither are those at the Drs. office. But still, the position where
> you'd have to mount it on the wall is up too high for this room. This is a
> very small room.

It has been around since thin tv's were invented.


--

Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

"sf" > wrote in message
...

> It has been around since thin tv's were invented.

Could be. I just don't know people who have that kind of setup.

I like to cook on weekend.

"Cindy Adams" > wrote in message
...
>
> I like to cook on weekend.

Isn't that lovely?

Good luck posting here.

On 5/27/2014 3:31 AM, Cindy Adams wrote:
>
> I like to cook on weekend.
>
>
>
>

In article >,
says...

> Of course, I put the box from my flat screen tv right by the
> garage so everyone who goes by knows I have one and are jealous.
> Harrr.
>
> nancy

Dear Nancy, that is such a good idea please could you email me a
picture of your big box to enlarge and print out so I can stand it by
the garage.

Hey, why not just email me a picture of the TV.. I could stick it on
the wall and truthfully say we never watch it.

Janet UK

On 2014-05-26 6:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

>> It used to be just a "cool" thing to say about watching the
>> educational channels but I find myself looking at them mostly. Animal
>> Planet, History, Discovery.... I just wish they would all go back to
>> nature and science and quit with all the reality shows. Of course,
>> even the Food Network has gone all to hell these days.
>
> Those are generally what I watch and also PBS. I do like some of the
> reality type shows but many are just not for me.


What part of that reality appeals to you the most?

On 5/27/2014 6:41 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 26 May 2014 20:15:20 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:

>> Who wrote?
>>
>>>>>> You big screen people clearly think people not locked into television
>>>>>> feel 'superior' - far from the case, I rarely think about television.

>> Because I have the post where you wrote that this morning.

> I absolutely, definitely did NOT say that!

Jebus quoted you as saying that, also, though you did not jump
on his case about it.

Your original post, where you said that, is available. If someone
is spoofing you, you should know about it.

This is the entire paragraph:

You big screen people clearly think people not locked into television
feel 'superior' - far from the case, I rarely think about television.
I am a radio person through and through and with the advent of
podcasting I listen to articles from all over the world. Television
is dross in comparison. So that being the case, a small one fits my
needs better.

> Then both Ed and sf implied I was being snobbish about not watching
> television and I denied it, but not by saying that. I know there are
> people who keep the television on all the time, not my style in my
> dwelling, in fact it is one of the reasons I don't like nursing homes,
> they do that!

I know. My mother was in rehab last year (broken pelvis, not drugs,
heh). The woman in the next bed had her tv on loud the whole time.
My mother does not watch tv. I don't know how she stood the noise.
No wonder she got out of there early.

nancy

On Tue, 27 May 2014 09:07:37 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> On 5/27/2014 6:41 AM, wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 May 2014 20:15:20 -0400, Nancy Young
> > > wrote:
>
> >> Who wrote?
> >>
> >>>>>> You big screen people clearly think people not locked into television
> >>>>>> feel 'superior' - far from the case, I rarely think about television.
>
> >> Because I have the post where you wrote that this morning.
>
> > I absolutely, definitely did NOT say that!
>
> Jebus quoted you as saying that, also, though you did not jump
> on his case about it.
>
> Your original post, where you said that, is available. If someone
> is spoofing you, you should know about it.
>
> This is the entire paragraph:
>
> You big screen people clearly think people not locked into television
> feel 'superior' - far from the case, I rarely think about television.
> I am a radio person through and through and with the advent of
> podcasting I listen to articles from all over the world. Television
> is dross in comparison. So that being the case, a small one fits my
> needs better.
>
> > Then both Ed and sf implied I was being snobbish about not watching
> > television and I denied it, but not by saying that. I know there are
> > people who keep the television on all the time, not my style in my
> > dwelling, in fact it is one of the reasons I don't like nursing homes,
> > they do that!

I had to search the trash to figure out WTF she was talking about.
She calls television "dross" and then gets upset at Ed when he voices
his opinion?

Ed said: "I'm amused at how so many people brag that they have
inferior equipment and feel superior because they hardy ever use it."

Whoooo, she says he implied she was a snob.

Finally found what I said that got her upset... in a subthread talking
about specific ways to hide or de-emphasize televisions "AFAIC, the
only reason to hide a tv like that is if it's in the living room and
you're a snob who doesn't want your friends to know you own one."
There was more to the post, but that's what she focused on.

The shoe must have fit rather well.


--

Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

On 5/26/2014 4:25 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Mon, 26 May 2014 11:04:48 -0500, Ema Nymton >
> wrote:
>
>> He cooks the best steaks on the grill, but Haliburton moved him to North
>> Dakota, so we will not see him very often.
>
> If he works for Haliburton, then the further away the better, I'd have
> thought.


Understand your point, concerning Haliburton and I agree with you about
that. He is still my nephew and I love him, although he is about as
right wing as you can get. Aunties look over things like that.

Becca

> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 26 May 2014 18:37:32 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 11:04:48 -0500, Ema Nymton >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>He cooks the best steaks on the grill, but Haliburton moved him to North
>>>>Dakota, so we will not see him very often.
>>>
>>> If he works for Haliburton, then the further away the better, I'd have
>>> thought.
>>
>>Why would you say something like that?
>>
>>Cheri
>
> Because of Iraq ?

What does a worker *working* for Haliburton have to do with it? That's like
saying a worker for BP or Exxon far removed from the oil spills are
responsible for the devastation. Ridiculous.

Cheri

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/26/2014 7:44 PM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 19:11:38 -0400, Nancy Young
>> > wrote:
>
> Who wrote?
>
>>>>> You big screen people clearly think people not locked into television
>>>>> feel 'superior' - far from the case, I rarely think about television.
>
> I wrote:
>
>>> I feel like it's the opposite, people who don't watch tv say
>>> there's only crap on tv, so what they're saying is people who
>>> watch tv, watch crap.
>
>> Well although I appear to be quoted above, there is not a single thing
>> I actually said.
>
> You're saying you did not post the sentence:
>
> You big screen people clearly think people not locked into television
> feel 'superior' - far from the case, I rarely think about television.
>
> Because I have the post where you wrote that this morning.
>
>> I did react to Ed and sf both saying I was a
>> snobbish and bragging that I didn't watch television, since that is
>> not the truth, none of the above sentiments are mine.
>
> This is very confusing. I did see where Ed said some people think
> it's a badge of honor that they don't watch tv. I also have this
> post the seems to be from you at 6:30 this am that I quoted from
> Jebus' post.

I think it all stems from ed saying that those of us who don't watch much
tv feel superior.

Seems to have been a rather unnecessary and inflammatory statement. It
certainly got my back up!

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Thanks for sharing the recipe

On Tue, 27 May 2014 08:52:18 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 18:37:32 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 11:04:48 -0500, Ema Nymton >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>He cooks the best steaks on the grill, but Haliburton moved him to North
>>>>>Dakota, so we will not see him very often.
>>>>
>>>> If he works for Haliburton, then the further away the better, I'd have
>>>> thought.
>>>
>>>Why would you say something like that?
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>
>> Because of Iraq ?

Iraq is just the tip of the iceberg.

>What does a worker *working* for Haliburton have to do with it? That's like
>saying a worker for BP or Exxon far removed from the oil spills are
>responsible for the devastation. Ridiculous.

Love your logic.

On Tue, 27 May 2014 09:47:44 -0500, Ema Nymton >
wrote:

>On 5/26/2014 4:25 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 11:04:48 -0500, Ema Nymton >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> He cooks the best steaks on the grill, but Haliburton moved him to North
>>> Dakota, so we will not see him very often.
>>
>> If he works for Haliburton, then the further away the better, I'd have
>> thought.
>
>
>Understand your point, concerning Haliburton and I agree with you about
>that. He is still my nephew and I love him, although he is about as
>right wing as you can get. Aunties look over things like that.

And I too understand your point, of course you love your nephew. It
was more an opportunity to have a dig at Halliburton... although I'm
not sure how anyone could work for them knowing, how they operate.

On 5/27/2014 4:47 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
>> Of course, I put the box from my flat screen tv right by the
>> garage so everyone who goes by knows I have one and are jealous.
>> Harrr.

> Dear Nancy, that is such a good idea please could you email me a
> picture of your big box to enlarge and print out so I can stand it by
> the garage.

Next time I'm at Costco, I'll snap a shot of a really big screen
tv box, for sure.

I don't think my flat screen actually qualifies as a big screen,
not enough to impress, I guess.

nancy

On Mon, 26 May 2014 20:39:53 -0300, wrote:

>On Tue, 27 May 2014 09:11:36 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 26 May 2014 19:08:33 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 27 May 2014 07:22:46 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I am a radio person through and through and with the advent of
>>>>>podcasting I listen to articles from all over the world.
>>>>
>>>>That's what I do every morning and some evenings - listen to
>>>>podcasts... I'm listening to one right now
>>>
>>>I listen to a lot of downloads from RN, believe that's your country
>>>for some reason. I particularly like Richard Fidlers interviews.
>>
>>Richard Fidler's show is excellent, and yes, he is Australian and his
>>show airs here locally at 11AM each weekday. Totally unpretentious and
>>most of his guests are interesting. I listen to him regularly.
>
>One of those rare interviewers who lets the guest do the talking. I
>also like Bush Telegraph, Law Report and Health Check. I am struck by
>the likeness between Canada and Australia

I love the Saturday mornings here, we have shows on the ABC local
station to do with raisng poultry and livestock, then onto the topic
of gardening, then fishing.

Yeah, we are similar in many ways - in others ways, not at all - I had
the French influence in mind.

>I started listening because I have cousins in Sydney, Hobart and
>Corlette.

I'm about 3 hours drive north of Hobart. I had to look up Corlette,
didn't know where that was

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> I think it all stems from ed saying that those of us who don't watch much
> tv feel superior.
>
> Seems to have been a rather unnecessary and inflammatory statement. It
> certainly got my back up!

My TV is on a lot. But am I watching it? Usually no.

On Tue, 27 May 2014 16:25:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>> I think it all stems from ed saying that those of us who don't watch much
>> tv feel superior.
>>
>> Seems to have been a rather unnecessary and inflammatory statement. It
>> certainly got my back up!
>
>My TV is on a lot. But am I watching it? Usually no.

Wonderful. Not surprised.

On Tue, 27 May 2014 20:52:03 -0300, wrote:

>On Wed, 28 May 2014 09:49:32 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 27 May 2014 16:25:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>> I think it all stems from ed saying that those of us who don't watch much
>>>> tv feel superior.
>>>>
>>>> Seems to have been a rather unnecessary and inflammatory statement. It
>>>> certainly got my back up!
>>>
>>>My TV is on a lot. But am I watching it? Usually no.
>>
>>Wonderful. Not surprised.
>
>Neither am I but I cannot see having it on and not watching. There is
>an irritating noise from a television set, bad enough if you are
>watching it but I wouldn't inflict on myself full time.

Some people like background noise, I guess. TV is certainly not
soothing to me, in fact quite the opposite with what I call the 'wall
of noise'. It's just an assault on my senses and it drains me. Quiet
moments or (gasp) silence on TV are verboten, apparently.

> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 28 May 2014 09:49:32 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 27 May 2014 16:25:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>> I think it all stems from ed saying that those of us who don't watch
>>>> much
>>>> tv feel superior.
>>>>
>>>> Seems to have been a rather unnecessary and inflammatory statement. It
>>>> certainly got my back up!
>>>
>>>My TV is on a lot. But am I watching it? Usually no.
>>
>>Wonderful. Not surprised.
>
> Neither am I but I cannot see having it on and not watching. There is
> an irritating noise from a television set, bad enough if you are
> watching it but I wouldn't inflict on myself full time.

TVs are not irritating to me at all unless it is some show that I can not
stand. Most sitcoms would factor in there as would soap operas and sports.
Most other things I can stand as background noise. Radios tend to irritate
me.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
news
> On Tue, 27 May 2014 08:52:18 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 18:37:32 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 11:04:48 -0500, Ema Nymton >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>He cooks the best steaks on the grill, but Haliburton moved him to
>>>>>>North
>>>>>>Dakota, so we will not see him very often.
>>>>>
>>>>> If he works for Haliburton, then the further away the better, I'd have
>>>>> thought.
>>>>
>>>>Why would you say something like that?
>>>>
>>>>Cheri
>>>
>>> Because of Iraq ?
>
> Iraq is just the tip of the iceberg.
>
>>What does a worker *working* for Haliburton have to do with it? That's
>>like
>>saying a worker for BP or Exxon far removed from the oil spills are
>>responsible for the devastation. Ridiculous.
>
> Love your logic.

At least I have some.

Cheri

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...

> And I too understand your point, of course you love your nephew. It
> was more an opportunity to have a dig at Halliburton... although I'm
> not sure how anyone could work for them knowing, how they operate.

Laughable, just laughable.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> news
>> On Tue, 27 May 2014 08:52:18 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
> wrote in message
...
>>>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 18:37:32 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
om...
>>>>>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 11:04:48 -0500, Ema Nymton
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>He cooks the best steaks on the grill, but Haliburton moved him to
>>>>>>>North
>>>>>>>Dakota, so we will not see him very often.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If he works for Haliburton, then the further away the better, I'd
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> thought.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why would you say something like that?
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheri
>>>>
>>>> Because of Iraq ?
>>
>> Iraq is just the tip of the iceberg.
>>
>>>What does a worker *working* for Haliburton have to do with it? That's
>>>like
>>>saying a worker for BP or Exxon far removed from the oil spills are
>>>responsible for the devastation. Ridiculous.
>>
>> Love your logic.
>
> At least I have some.

*snicker*

> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 28 May 2014 09:49:32 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 27 May 2014 16:25:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>> I think it all stems from ed saying that those of us who don't watch
>>>> much
>>>> tv feel superior.
>>>>
>>>> Seems to have been a rather unnecessary and inflammatory statement. It
>>>> certainly got my back up!
>>>
>>>My TV is on a lot. But am I watching it? Usually no.
>>
>>Wonderful. Not surprised.
>
> Neither am I but I cannot see having it on and not watching. There is
> an irritating noise from a television set, bad enough if you are
> watching it but I wouldn't inflict on myself full time.

I like the radio on when I am working in the kitchen, but I am listening.
I don't know if you can get radio 4 but I always have that on. When I am
finished in the kitchen, it is turned off. I don't like background noise.


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"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 27 May 2014 20:52:03 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 28 May 2014 09:49:32 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 27 May 2014 16:25:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> I think it all stems from ed saying that those of us who don't watch
>>>>> much
>>>>> tv feel superior.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems to have been a rather unnecessary and inflammatory statement.
>>>>> It
>>>>> certainly got my back up!
>>>>
>>>>My TV is on a lot. But am I watching it? Usually no.
>>>
>>>Wonderful. Not surprised.
>>
>>Neither am I but I cannot see having it on and not watching. There is
>>an irritating noise from a television set, bad enough if you are
>>watching it but I wouldn't inflict on myself full time.
>
> Some people like background noise, I guess. TV is certainly not
> soothing to me, in fact quite the opposite with what I call the 'wall
> of noise'. It's just an assault on my senses and it drains me. Quiet
> moments or (gasp) silence on TV are verboten, apparently.

Yes, that is a very good way to describe it ... it drains me too.

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> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 28 May 2014 10:40:32 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Tue, 27 May 2014 20:52:03 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 28 May 2014 09:49:32 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 27 May 2014 16:25:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>> I think it all stems from ed saying that those of us who don't
>>>>>>> watch
>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>> tv feel superior.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seems to have been a rather unnecessary and inflammatory statement.
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> certainly got my back up!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My TV is on a lot. But am I watching it? Usually no.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wonderful. Not surprised.
>>>>
>>>>Neither am I but I cannot see having it on and not watching. There is
>>>>an irritating noise from a television set, bad enough if you are
>>>>watching it but I wouldn't inflict on myself full time.
>>>
>>> Some people like background noise, I guess. TV is certainly not
>>> soothing to me, in fact quite the opposite with what I call the 'wall
>>> of noise'. It's just an assault on my senses and it drains me. Quiet
>>> moments or (gasp) silence on TV are verboten, apparently.
>>
>>Yes, that is a very good way to describe it ... it drains me too.
>
> Perhaps it's a reaction to being on their own - whereas I am quite
> content and there are times when silence is golden. Just the sound of
> birds getting ready to nest, or starlings on the grass with their oh
> so noisy demanding fledglings, even kids in the distance at play - so
> long as I don't have to mind them

Oooh! I hate silence! When the power goes out and we are snowed in, that's
true silence. Odd how you don't notice the noise of the electricity until
you don't have it.

On 5/27/2014 1:42 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> Seems to have been a rather unnecessary and inflammatory statement. It
> certainly got my back up!
>

I noticed. As I stated before, the comment was not directed at you.
There have been a few people though, that look down their noses at the
TV and those that watch. If the comment applies to you, you know my
feelings. If it does not apply, fine, ignore and carry on.

On 5/28/2014 5:40 AM, Ophelia wrote:

>> Some people like background noise, I guess. TV is certainly not
>> soothing to me, in fact quite the opposite with what I call the 'wall
>> of noise'. It's just an assault on my senses and it drains me. Quiet
>> moments or (gasp) silence on TV are verboten, apparently.
>
> Yes, that is a very good way to describe it ... it drains me too.
>

Silence can be refreshing. Most days at work there will be a period of
15 to 30 minutes with nothing happening. There are three of us where my
office is and at times, the phone is not ringing, we are not talking,
but just taking advantage of the moment. Close your eyes, relax, take a
short nap.

At home, we sometimes do the same thing. No TV, no one else home, just
the two of us reading. Gentle sounds like raindrops or birds chirping
can be nice, nothing man made.

On 5/27/2014 8:43 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>


> TVs are not irritating to me at all unless it is some show that I can
> not stand. Most sitcoms would factor in there as would soap operas and
> sports. Most other things I can stand as background noise. Radios tend
> to irritate me.

Only time the radio is on at home is for the alarm. I wake up to the
news. If I want some noise, it will be music. Pop in a few CDs and let
it go.

In my car, I never listen to regular radio any more, just the XM so I
can hear music. Never thought I'd pay to listen to the radio.

On 5/28/2014 8:57 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/27/2014 1:42 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> Seems to have been a rather unnecessary and inflammatory statement. It
>> certainly got my back up!
>>
>
> I noticed. As I stated before, the comment was not directed at you.
> There have been a few people though, that look down their noses at the
> TV and those that watch. If the comment applies to you, you know my
> feelings. If it does not apply, fine, ignore and carry on.

I've certainly encountered people in real life who came across as if NOT
owning a television is some sort of badge of honor. Yeah, whatever.
They don't have the ability to make me feel like a lesser person because
I watch television.

Jill

On 5/28/2014 9:10 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/28/2014 5:40 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>>> Some people like background noise, I guess. TV is certainly not
>>> soothing to me, in fact quite the opposite with what I call the 'wall
>>> of noise'. It's just an assault on my senses and it drains me. Quiet
>>> moments or (gasp) silence on TV are verboten, apparently.
>>
>> Yes, that is a very good way to describe it ... it drains me too.
>>
>
> Silence can be refreshing. Most days at work there will be a period of
> 15 to 30 minutes with nothing happening. There are three of us where my
> office is and at times, the phone is not ringing, we are not talking,
> but just taking advantage of the moment. Close your eyes, relax, take a
> short nap.
>
> At home, we sometimes do the same thing. No TV, no one else home, just
> the two of us reading. Gentle sounds like raindrops or birds chirping
> can be nice, nothing man made.

Right now I'm hearing birds chirp out back. No TV. My cat Persia is
napping. There is the low hum of the refrigerator but nothing else.
It's very nice and quiet and peaceful this morning.

Jill

On 5/28/2014 9:36 AM, wrote:
> On Wed, 28 May 2014 09:32:18 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/28/2014 8:57 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 5/27/2014 1:42 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seems to have been a rather unnecessary and inflammatory statement. It
>>>> certainly got my back up!
>>>>
>>>
>>> I noticed. As I stated before, the comment was not directed at you.
>>> There have been a few people though, that look down their noses at the
>>> TV and those that watch. If the comment applies to you, you know my
>>> feelings. If it does not apply, fine, ignore and carry on.
>>
>> I've certainly encountered people in real life who came across as if NOT
>> owning a television is some sort of badge of honor. Yeah, whatever.
>> They don't have the ability to make me feel like a lesser person because
>> I watch television.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Well I do own two televisions, albeit very small. I really don't care
> if people have wall sized televisions but I don't understand it
> because apart from news and Corrie, I don't find anything riveting on
> television.
>
Riveting, no. Nothing I plan my time around. I do find some fun things
on TV. Sorry, I don't know who Corrie is.

> If that makes me a snob, well I'm a happy snob. I have the suspicion
> too that like Monster Homes, the same people do not feel they are
> ahead unless they have wall sized televisions. What's next ? Home
> I-Max ?
>
I don't have huge TVs either. Those seem to be mostly for the
show-offs. I've met a few of them, too.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/28/2014 9:36 AM, wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 May 2014 09:32:18 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/28/2014 8:57 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 5/27/2014 1:42 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Seems to have been a rather unnecessary and inflammatory statement.
>>>>> It
>>>>> certainly got my back up!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I noticed. As I stated before, the comment was not directed at you.
>>>> There have been a few people though, that look down their noses at the
>>>> TV and those that watch. If the comment applies to you, you know my
>>>> feelings. If it does not apply, fine, ignore and carry on.
>>>
>>> I've certainly encountered people in real life who came across as if NOT
>>> owning a television is some sort of badge of honor. Yeah, whatever.
>>> They don't have the ability to make me feel like a lesser person because
>>> I watch television.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Well I do own two televisions, albeit very small. I really don't care
>> if people have wall sized televisions but I don't understand it
>> because apart from news and Corrie, I don't find anything riveting on
>> television.
>>
> Riveting, no. Nothing I plan my time around. I do find some fun things
> on TV. Sorry, I don't know who Corrie is.
>
>> If that makes me a snob, well I'm a happy snob. I have the suspicion
>> too that like Monster Homes, the same people do not feel they are
>> ahead unless they have wall sized televisions. What's next ? Home
>> I-Max ?
>>
> I don't have huge TVs either. Those seem to be mostly for the show-offs.
> I've met a few of them, too.
>
> Jill

Why is having a huge TV showing off? I think it's a preference that some
enjoy, maybe even like having a swimming pool, or tennis court, or any
number of things that are enjoyed by the family. I have standard 32 inch
TV's, but I certainly don't think that those with large screen TV's are
showing off.

Cheri

> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 28 May 2014 07:24:13 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 5/28/2014 9:36 AM, wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 28 May 2014 09:32:18 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/28/2014 8:57 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/27/2014 1:42 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seems to have been a rather unnecessary and inflammatory statement.
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> certainly got my back up!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I noticed. As I stated before, the comment was not directed at you.
>>>>>> There have been a few people though, that look down their noses at
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> TV and those that watch. If the comment applies to you, you know my
>>>>>> feelings. If it does not apply, fine, ignore and carry on.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've certainly encountered people in real life who came across as if
>>>>> NOT
>>>>> owning a television is some sort of badge of honor. Yeah, whatever.
>>>>> They don't have the ability to make me feel like a lesser person
>>>>> because
>>>>> I watch television.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Well I do own two televisions, albeit very small. I really don't care
>>>> if people have wall sized televisions but I don't understand it
>>>> because apart from news and Corrie, I don't find anything riveting on
>>>> television.
>>>>
>>> Riveting, no. Nothing I plan my time around. I do find some fun things
>>> on TV. Sorry, I don't know who Corrie is.
>>>
>>>> If that makes me a snob, well I'm a happy snob. I have the suspicion
>>>> too that like Monster Homes, the same people do not feel they are
>>>> ahead unless they have wall sized televisions. What's next ? Home
>>>> I-Max ?
>>>>
>>> I don't have huge TVs either. Those seem to be mostly for the
>>> show-offs.
>>> I've met a few of them, too.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>Why is having a huge TV showing off? I think it's a preference that some
>>enjoy, maybe even like having a swimming pool, or tennis court, or any
>>number of things that are enjoyed by the family. I have standard 32 inch
>>TV's, but I certainly don't think that those with large screen TV's are
>>showing off.
>>
>>Cheri
>
> Well I guess it's the same people who think not watching much
> television is a snobbery idea. I really don't care so long as I am
> not required to follow suit.

I don't think that either, some people don't enjoy TV. Just think how
horrible it would be if you were chained to a chair and forced to watch
something like "Hoarders." :-)

Cheri

> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 28 May 2014 10:39:46 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Wed, 28 May 2014 09:49:32 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 27 May 2014 16:25:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>> I think it all stems from ed saying that those of us who don't watch
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> tv feel superior.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems to have been a rather unnecessary and inflammatory statement.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> certainly got my back up!
>>>>>
>>>>>My TV is on a lot. But am I watching it? Usually no.
>>>>
>>>>Wonderful. Not surprised.
>>>
>>> Neither am I but I cannot see having it on and not watching. There is
>>> an irritating noise from a television set, bad enough if you are
>>> watching it but I wouldn't inflict on myself full time.
>>
>> I like the radio on when I am working in the kitchen, but I am listening.
>>I don't know if you can get radio 4 but I always have that on. When I am
>>finished in the kitchen, it is turned off. I don't like background
>>noise.
>
> I listen to Radio 4 every evening - love the Book at Bedtime although
> the choices have been not much to my taste recently. I also like
> Womans Hour - such a contrast to the programme it was back in the 60s!

Isn't it just!!! I listen to those too, but I especially like the news
slots.

>
> I find there is no background noise to FM radio, whereas I hear this
> weird sound with television, nothing to do with the programming,
> something like a whooshing sound.

good grief I wouldn't like that!

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