My old grill (i've posted about it and got some advice from you guys
that I tried to take) was given to my neighbors to try to fix. It seems
it may need new burners and I bought them, but couldn't get the screws
loose from the old burners so I gave up. My neighbors are free to try
whatever it takes to remove the screws, and I gave them the new burners.

My new grill is a Char-Broil that says "tru infrared". I have to
explore that part more as I only got it put together today and I've only
burned it long enough to burn off the manufacturing stuff. it burns
really HOT. I'm going to love this grill for searing, and I can even
burn one burner and have indirect heat when I want it. Wood chips
should be good in it too as it closes tighter than my old one.

It sure was a bitch to put together as the manual had only pictures.
What ever happened to text to help you in the instructions?

I was torn between a grill that had a gas side and a charcoal side. The
infrared sold me on this one.

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

On Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:34:47 PM UTC-5, Cheryl wrote:
>
> It sure was a bitch to put together as the manual had only pictures.
> What ever happened to text to help you in the instructions?
>
>
> ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
>
> Cheryl
>
>
I bought a new Weber Performer about a month ago and it, too, only had pictures for instructions. Was a bit of a head scratcher on 2 or 3 of the steps. I got it together though and was glad when that chore was done!!

itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> It sure was a bitch to put together as the manual had only pictures.
>> What ever happened to text to help you in the instructions?
>>
>I bought a new Weber Performer about a month ago and it, too, only had pictures
>for instructions. Was a bit of a head scratcher on 2 or 3 of the steps.
>I got it together though and was glad when that chore was done!!

Often better instructions can be down loaded at the web site... and
don't hesitate to phone the company for help.

On 5/19/2014 1:48 AM, wrote:
> On Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:34:47 PM UTC-5, Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> It sure was a bitch to put together as the manual had only pictures.
>> What ever happened to text to help you in the instructions?
>>
>>
>> ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
>>
>> Cheryl
>>
>>
> I bought a new Weber Performer about a month ago and it, too, only had pictures for instructions. Was a bit of a head scratcher on 2 or 3 of the steps. I got it together though and was glad when that chore was done!!
>
These days, half the time written instructions won't help because
they're written by people for whom English is a second language and they
aren't very good at it.

Jill

On 2014-05-19 1:48 AM, wrote:
> On Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:34:47 PM UTC-5, Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> It sure was a bitch to put together as the manual had only pictures.
>> What ever happened to text to help you in the instructions?
>>
>>
>> ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
>>
>> Cheryl
>>
>>
> I bought a new Weber Performer about a month ago and it, too, only had pictures for instructions. Was a bit of a head scratcher on 2 or 3 of the steps. I got it together though and was glad when that chore was done!!
>

I helped my neighbour assemble something that turned out to be a gizmo
for transporting a mitre saw around. He had thought it was a device for
guiding large items on a table say. Not a problem because he has a
mitre saw and uses it a lot. The instructions were very misleading.
The written instructions were not specific enough. They described parts
and said to use the bolts, but there were several sizes of bolts and
they didn't say which. We went mostly by the pictures, but the pictures
were screwy. For instance, one showed the handles at the end of the arms
at the far end from the wheels, but the next one showed the handles in a
different position and over the wheels.

When I was about 18 I had a job in the sporting and leisure department
of a department store. I was a little more mechanically minded than the
guys I worked with so I was the one who ended up having to assemble all
the demos for display so I got pretty good at it. In those days,
everything was made in Canada or the US, so the instructions usually
made sense. Now the instructions are printed in one language and then
there is a series of people translating them from one language to
another. Sometimes they can be quite comical.

On 2014-05-19 9:58 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>> I bought a new Weber Performer about a month ago and it, too, only had
>> pictures for instructions. Was a bit of a head scratcher on 2 or 3 of
>> the steps. I got it together though and was glad when that chore was
>> done!!
>>
> These days, half the time written instructions won't help because
> they're written by people for whom English is a second language and they
> aren't very good at it.
>
>

I just mentioned that in another post. When all that stuff was made in
North America the instructions were written in English by someone for
whom English is their first language. Now those items are made in
Mexico or Asia and instructions are often the result of a string of
translations and may make no sense at all.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>> Cheryl wrote:
>>>
>>> It sure was a bitch to put together as the manual had only pictures.
>>> What ever happened to text to help you in the instructions?
>>>
>>I bought a new Weber Performer about a month ago and it, too, only had
>>pictures
>>for instructions. Was a bit of a head scratcher on 2 or 3 of the steps.
>>I got it together though and was glad when that chore was done!!
>
> Often better instructions can be down loaded at the web site... and
> don't hesitate to phone the company for help.

Better yet, buy it already put together.

Cheri

On 5/19/2014 10:30 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>> Cheryl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It sure was a bitch to put together as the manual had only pictures.
>>>> What ever happened to text to help you in the instructions?
>>>>
>>> I bought a new Weber Performer about a month ago and it, too, only
>>> had pictures
>>> for instructions. Was a bit of a head scratcher on 2 or 3 of the steps.
>>> I got it together though and was glad when that chore was done!!
>>
>> Often better instructions can be down loaded at the web site... and
>> don't hesitate to phone the company for help.
>
> Better yet, buy it already put together.
>
> Cheri

That's assuming you have a vehicle large enough to get the thing home
already assembled. Or are buying from a place with free delivery, or
don't mind paying for delivery...

Jill

On 5/18/2014 9:34 PM, Cheryl wrote:

> It sure was a bitch to put together as the manual had only pictures.
> What ever happened to text to help you in the instructions?

The global marketplace. It's produced in China by people who have
little or no foreign language skills, and marketed worldwide. Rather
then go to the expense of hiring language experts to write the
assembly instructions in multiple languages, they limit it to images.

On 2014-05-19 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>
> That's assuming you have a vehicle large enough to get the thing home
> already assembled. Or are buying from a place with free delivery, or
> don't mind paying for delivery...
>


Tack that on to the list of reasons to patronize you local stores. We
have a Home Hardware about two miles from here that will deliver for
free. I bought a new gas grill last summer. I was wondering if the box
would fit in my Honda Civic. Not a problem... Floor model was the last
one in stock. They were loading up to make a delivery so they tossed the
BBQ on and delivered it a within 10 minutes. Home Depot charges minimum
$75 for delivery.

On 5/19/2014 1:48 AM, wrote:
> On Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:34:47 PM UTC-5, Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> It sure was a bitch to put together as the manual had only pictures.
>> What ever happened to text to help you in the instructions?
>>
>>
>> ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
>>
>> Cheryl
>>
>>
> I bought a new Weber Performer about a month ago and it, too, only had
> pictures for instructions. Was a bit of a head scratcher on 2 or 3 of
>the steps. I got it together though and was glad when that chore was
done!!

I've put together a number of gas grills over the years. The latest
is a Weber and I was really impressed with how easily it assembled.
I really appreciated that the gas parts were pre-assembled. This thing
is now ... going on 18 years old. It's stayed put together, I never had
one not turn into a jiggly mess after a couple of years. Of course I've
replaced the bars and the grates.

Anyway, I'm hoping they are still as easy to assemble as this one was.
For when I eventually need a new one.

nancy

On 5/19/2014 10:40 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

> Tack that on to the list of reasons to patronize you local stores. We
> have a Home Hardware about two miles from here that will deliver for
> free. I bought a new gas grill last summer. I was wondering if the box
> would fit in my Honda Civic.

Ha, I had my Honda Accord when I bought this Weber. They were
smaller cars at that time, compared to today. No idea why I
thought the box would fit in my trunk or back seat. Long story
short, the guy shrink wrapped it onto my roof, going through the
rear windows. The thing was so freakin' heavy, I didn't anticipate
that.

Got home, now what? Ron's in Chicago, it's just me here. That's
when I figured out, just open the box still on the roof and take
out the parts one at a time.

And if I need to pick something up that won't fit in the car in the
box, open that box and put the parts in separately. Works for a lot
of things.

nancy

Cheryl wrote:
> My old grill (i've posted about it and got some advice from you guys
> that I tried to take) was given to my neighbors to try to fix. It
> seems it may need new burners and I bought them, but couldn't get the
> screws loose from the old burners so I gave up. My neighbors are
> free to try whatever it takes to remove the screws, and I gave them
> the new burners.
> My new grill is a Char-Broil that says "tru infrared". I have to
> explore that part more as I only got it put together today and I've
> only burned it long enough to burn off the manufacturing stuff. it
> burns really HOT. I'm going to love this grill for searing, and I
> can even burn one burner and have indirect heat when I want it. Wood
> chips should be good in it too as it closes tighter than my old one.
>
> It sure was a bitch to put together as the manual had only pictures.
> What ever happened to text to help you in the instructions?
>
> I was torn between a grill that had a gas side and a charcoal side.
> The infrared sold me on this one.

We're about to buy a grill. (Had one years ago, didn't use it much, got
rid of it, and are going for "round 2", possibly tomorrow, even).

We were going to get a Weber and have the plumber run a gas line from
the house to it. Both the hardware store (where we'll buy the grill)
and the plumber said that's the preferred way. But I don't want to have
a debate and natural gas versus propane tanks. I want to know about an
infrared grill - is that what you've gotten?

-S-

On Mon, 19 May 2014 07:30:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>> Cheryl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It sure was a bitch to put together as the manual had only pictures.
>>>> What ever happened to text to help you in the instructions?
>>>>
>>>I bought a new Weber Performer about a month ago and it, too, only had
>>>pictures
>>>for instructions. Was a bit of a head scratcher on 2 or 3 of the steps.
>>>I got it together though and was glad when that chore was done!!
>>
>> Often better instructions can be down loaded at the web site... and
>> don't hesitate to phone the company for help.
>
>Better yet, buy it already put together.

Typically you'll pay extra for that service... and typically they
don't do a very good job, they'll have a drop out from burger flipping
school do the assembly.... odds are you'll find you'll need to
disassemble and reassmble sections, if you can find all the parts,
typically the flipping kid will have flipped them in the trash because
they were left over.

On Mon, 19 May 2014 09:58:13 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 5/19/2014 1:48 AM, wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:34:47 PM UTC-5, Cheryl wrote:
> >>
> >> It sure was a bitch to put together as the manual had only pictures.
> >> What ever happened to text to help you in the instructions?
> >>
> >>
> >> ?.¸¸.?*¨`*?
> >>
> >> Cheryl
> >>
> >>
> > I bought a new Weber Performer about a month ago and it, too, only had pictures for instructions. Was a bit of a head scratcher on 2 or 3 of the steps. I got it together though and was glad when that chore was done!!
> >
> These days, half the time written instructions won't help because
> they're written by people for whom English is a second language and they
> aren't very good at it.
>
> Jill
Eggsacereee! Besides, a *good* picture is worth a thousand words.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Mon, 19 May 2014 11:23:18 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 5/19/2014 10:40 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> Tack that on to the list of reasons to patronize you local stores. We
>> have a Home Hardware about two miles from here that will deliver for
>> free. I bought a new gas grill last summer. I was wondering if the box
>> would fit in my Honda Civic.
>
>Ha, I had my Honda Accord when I bought this Weber. They were
>smaller cars at that time, compared to today. No idea why I
>thought the box would fit in my trunk or back seat. Long story
>short, the guy shrink wrapped it onto my roof, going through the
>rear windows. The thing was so freakin' heavy, I didn't anticipate
>that.
>
>Got home, now what? Ron's in Chicago, it's just me here. That's
>when I figured out, just open the box still on the roof and take
>out the parts one at a time.
>
>And if I need to pick something up that won't fit in the car in the
>box, open that box and put the parts in separately. Works for a lot
>of things.
>
>nancy

Had you ordered that grill from Amazon you'd have paid less and it
would have been shipped right to your door for free. Last year I
ordered a Husqavarna push mower from Amazon (my 23 year old Craftsman
finally gave its all), two days later it was delivered to my garage
door by UPS and in perfect condition, Amazon over boxes... they place
the original carton inside a slightly larger stronger carton with
bubble wrap packing between. Husqavarna makes a great push mower...
had it put together and running in 40 minutes, even came with a bottle
of oil, took ten minutes to fill because I had to hunt up my funnel.
The darn thing fired up on the first pull, runs smooth as silk, has a
Honda engine, was a great buy for under $300... this year costs a few
dollars mo
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

On Sun, 18 May 2014 22:34:47 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>
> My new grill is a Char-Broil that says "tru infrared".

<snip>
>
> I was torn between a grill that had a gas side and a charcoal side. The
> infrared sold me on this one.

I'm looking at "dual fuel" models too. Looks like inrared isn't
electric, it's gas... but I'd have to wait for a duel fuel model if I
wanted a side with infrared powered by gas.

Do you have experience with ordinary gas barbecues? I'm interested in
hearing about your experiences with this because we'll be buying a new
BBQ this summer or maybe wait for the after summer sales.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Mon, 19 May 2014 11:38:24 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote:

>Cheryl wrote:
>> My old grill (i've posted about it and got some advice from you guys
>> that I tried to take) was given to my neighbors to try to fix. It
>> seems it may need new burners and I bought them, but couldn't get the
>> screws loose from the old burners so I gave up. My neighbors are
>> free to try whatever it takes to remove the screws, and I gave them
>> the new burners.
>> My new grill is a Char-Broil that says "tru infrared". I have to
>> explore that part more as I only got it put together today and I've
>> only burned it long enough to burn off the manufacturing stuff. it
>> burns really HOT. I'm going to love this grill for searing, and I
>> can even burn one burner and have indirect heat when I want it. Wood
>> chips should be good in it too as it closes tighter than my old one.
>>
>> It sure was a bitch to put together as the manual had only pictures.
>> What ever happened to text to help you in the instructions?
>>
>> I was torn between a grill that had a gas side and a charcoal side.
>> The infrared sold me on this one.
>
>We're about to buy a grill. (Had one years ago, didn't use it much, got
>rid of it, and are going for "round 2", possibly tomorrow, even).
>
>We were going to get a Weber and have the plumber run a gas line from
>the house to it. Both the hardware store (where we'll buy the grill)
>and the plumber said that's the preferred way. But I don't want to have
>a debate and natural gas versus propane tanks. I want to know about an
>infrared grill - is that what you've gotten?

When I lived on long Island my Weber was plumbed to natural gas...
here it's plumbed to my 500 gallon propane tank (I heat with propane).
The propane burner cost $40 eleven years ago. I notice no difference
whatsoever using either fuel. Also the propane company had their tech
swap burners and check it out, free service, of course I buy a lot of
propane so I'm sure I paid for it. Oh, my Weber is nearly 30 years
old, still works like new, still all original parts except I changed
the wooden slats on the side shelves... made them myself... Weber
wanted like $50 for what cost me $6 at Lowes. Actually I had the
lumber, I use grape stakes in my garden so I have lots of extras...
better than new, and had I ordered from Weber it had to be plastic:
http://i58.tinypic.com/35ch2jr.jpg
http://i61.tinypic.com/i4fhxs.jpg
The bottom shelf was still in good condition... for an old Weber it's
in good shape and I never cover it, in winter it could be under
several feet of snow.

On 5/19/2014 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>> Better yet, buy it already put together.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> That's assuming you have a vehicle large enough to get the thing home
> already assembled. Or are buying from a place with free delivery, or
> don't mind paying for delivery...
>
> Jill

I bought two grills over the past 32 years and they were delivered and
set up on my deck. Last time around about two years ago, I bought a
Weber Summit. I could buy it off the internet delivered but not
assembled or from a local dealer that would assemble and deliver. Price
difference was $400. Took me about 90 minutes to put it together. For a
difference $100 or less, I'd rather buy local.

On 5/18/2014 10:34 PM, Cheryl wrote:


> I was torn between a grill that had a gas side and a charcoal side. The
> infrared sold me on this one.
>

After using it a few times, report back on the infrared. They are
supposed to be great for searing steaks.

My Weber Summit has a sear station that does a pretty good job but I'd
have gotten IR if it was available.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/18/2014 10:34 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>
>
>> I was torn between a grill that had a gas side and a charcoal side.
>> The infrared sold me on this one.
>>
>
> After using it a few times, report back on the infrared. They are
> supposed to be great for searing steaks.
>
> My Weber Summit has a sear station that does a pretty good job but I'd
> have gotten IR if it was available.

IR sounds like cooking under the heat lamp we had in the bathroom when I
was a kid - is it basically that technology? Don't they use something
similar to keep food warm in fast food places? I've never heard of
using it to cook before, especially not in a grill.

-S-

On 5/19/2014 11:38 AM, Steve Freides wrote:


>
> We were going to get a Weber and have the plumber run a gas line from
> the house to it. Both the hardware store (where we'll buy the grill)
> and the plumber said that's the preferred way. But I don't want to have
> a debate and natural gas versus propane tanks.

There is no debate. If you have NG, it is the best way to go.

On 5/19/2014 1:33 PM, Steve Freides wrote:

>> My Weber Summit has a sear station that does a pretty good job but I'd
>> have gotten IR if it was available.
>
> IR sounds like cooking under the heat lamp we had in the bathroom when I
> was a kid - is it basically that technology? Don't they use something
> similar to keep food warm in fast food places? I've never heard of
> using it to cook before, especially not in a grill.
>
> -S-
Same idea, but much hotter.

This one claims 1600 degrees. It is common for rotisserie burners to be
IR also. That works well.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/19/2014 1:33 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>
>>> My Weber Summit has a sear station that does a pretty good job but
>>> I'd have gotten IR if it was available.
>>
>> IR sounds like cooking under the heat lamp we had in the bathroom
>> when I was a kid - is it basically that technology? Don't they use
>> something similar to keep food warm in fast food places? I've never
>> heard of using it to cook before, especially not in a grill.
>>
>> -S-
> Same idea, but much hotter.
>
> This one claims 1600 degrees. It is common for rotisserie burners to
> be IR also. That works well.

Very interesting - I will ask about that at the store. I am, as I think
you mentioned elsewhere, shopping local - we love our local hardware
store, and they have a nice display plus salepeople who know all about
these, plus we have the option of delivery and installation. Whatever
we get, we'll get it from them.

The Weber site mentions infrred only briefly in a blog and it's
associated with a rotisserie feature in one (or more?) of their Summit
line of grills, which are bigger than we want.

-S-

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/19/2014 10:30 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>>> Cheryl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It sure was a bitch to put together as the manual had only pictures.
>>>>> What ever happened to text to help you in the instructions?
>>>>>
>>>> I bought a new Weber Performer about a month ago and it, too, only
>>>> had pictures
>>>> for instructions. Was a bit of a head scratcher on 2 or 3 of the
>>>> steps.
>>>> I got it together though and was glad when that chore was done!!
>>>
>>> Often better instructions can be down loaded at the web site... and
>>> don't hesitate to phone the company for help.
>>
>> Better yet, buy it already put together.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> That's assuming you have a vehicle large enough to get the thing home
> already assembled. Or are buying from a place with free delivery, or
> don't mind paying for delivery...
>
> Jill

Yes, fortunately I can do all three. We put one together many years ago, and
never again!

Cheri

On Monday, May 19, 2014 8:38:41 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>
> >
> >I bought a new Weber Performer about a month ago and it, too, only had pictures
> >for instructions. Was a bit of a head scratcher on 2 or 3 of the steps.
> >I got it together though and was glad when that chore was done!!
>
>
> don't hesitate to phone the company for help.>
>
>
I was on the verge of calling the company on one part that didn't make sense but looked at the instructions for the 5th time and finally saw what they were depicting.

On 5/18/2014 9:34 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> My old grill (i've posted about it and got some advice from you guys
> that I tried to take) was given to my neighbors to try to fix. It seems
> it may need new burners and I bought them, but couldn't get the screws
> loose from the old burners so I gave up. My neighbors are free to try
> whatever it takes to remove the screws, and I gave them the new burners.
>
> My new grill is a Char-Broil that says "tru infrared". I have to
> explore that part more as I only got it put together today and I've only
> burned it long enough to burn off the manufacturing stuff. it burns
> really HOT. I'm going to love this grill for searing, and I can even
> burn one burner and have indirect heat when I want it. Wood chips
> should be good in it too as it closes tighter than my old one.
>
> It sure was a bitch to put together as the manual had only pictures.
> What ever happened to text to help you in the instructions?
>
> I was torn between a grill that had a gas side and a charcoal side. The
> infrared sold me on this one.


It sounds good to me, I hope it works out for you. I know what you mean,
about having to assemble items you purchase, that is one of the things I
missed, when my children went away to school. They were good about
assembling almost anything for me.

Becca

On 5/19/2014 1:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 5/19/2014 11:38 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
>
>
>>
>> We were going to get a Weber and have the plumber run a gas line from
>> the house to it. Both the hardware store (where we'll buy the grill)
>> and the plumber said that's the preferred way. But I don't want to have
>> a debate and natural gas versus propane tanks.
>
> There is no debate. If you have NG, it is the best way to go.

That's what I'd do if I had NG. But my home is all electric.

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

On 5/19/2014 1:50 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/19/2014 1:33 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>
>>> My Weber Summit has a sear station that does a pretty good job but I'd
>>> have gotten IR if it was available.
>>
>> IR sounds like cooking under the heat lamp we had in the bathroom when I
>> was a kid - is it basically that technology? Don't they use something
>> similar to keep food warm in fast food places? I've never heard of
>> using it to cook before, especially not in a grill.
>>
>> -S-
> Same idea, but much hotter.
>
> This one claims 1600 degrees. It is common for rotisserie burners to be
> IR also. That works well.
>
I cooked on it tonight. It gets hot hot. There are thermometers that
stick in under the grates, and the temps were well off the max it could
show, which is 700F. I put a thermometer on the grate where I was
cooking burgers and it was ~500F. Seared and cooked to juicy in like 7
minutes, maybe a little less. I'd kind of like it to go lower but I'll
have to use indirect heat for that.

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

On 2014-05-19 1:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> We were going to get a Weber and have the plumber run a gas line from
>> the house to it. Both the hardware store (where we'll buy the grill)
>> and the plumber said that's the preferred way. But I don't want to have
>> a debate and natural gas versus propane tanks.
>
> There is no debate. If you have NG, it is the best way to go.


My father had a a NG BBQ (stationary) and I was never impressed with
it. It seems to take forever to cook things in it. My brother moved into
my town a few years ago and since he had NG heating he got a NG BBQ.
Maybe it is because he likes his meat well cooked that it always takes
so long. Now that I have NG heating I was tempted to go NG BBQ but I
opted to stick with propane.

On 5/19/2014 6:48 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> My father had a a NG BBQ (stationary) and I was never impressed with
> it. It seems to take forever to cook things in it. My brother moved into
> my town a few years ago and since he had NG heating he got a NG BBQ.
> Maybe it is because he likes his meat well cooked that it always takes
> so long. Now that I have NG heating I was tempted to go NG BBQ but I
> opted to stick with propane.

Some older NG were not set up properly. Some grills were were
underpowered no matter which gas was used. Ducane comes to mind.
Durably built, but underpowered.

On 5/18/2014 9:34 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> My old grill (i've posted about it and got some advice from you guys
> that I tried to take) was given to my neighbors to try to fix. It seems
> it may need new burners and I bought them, but couldn't get the screws
> loose from the old burners so I gave up. My neighbors are free to try
> whatever it takes to remove the screws, and I gave them the new burners.
>
> My new grill is a Char-Broil that says "tru infrared". I have to
> explore that part more as I only got it put together today and I've only
> burned it long enough to burn off the manufacturing stuff. it burns
> really HOT. I'm going to love this grill for searing, and I can even
> burn one burner and have indirect heat when I want it. Wood chips
> should be good in it too as it closes tighter than my old one.
>
> It sure was a bitch to put together as the manual had only pictures.
> What ever happened to text to help you in the instructions?
>
> I was torn between a grill that had a gas side and a charcoal side. The
> infrared sold me on this one.


OK - gonna say the thing I dislike - a one-word response - SWEET!!!
way! kewl, and if this is what you like - that's all that counts

The first question now begs ---- what will you cook/grill/bbq to
'christen' the domahickey That's the question - LOL Do tell, please!

Sky

Steve Freides wrote:

> We're about to buy a grill. (Had one years ago, didn't use it much,
> got rid of it, and are going for "round 2", possibly tomorrow, even).
>
> We were going to get a Weber and have the plumber run a gas line from
> the house to it. Both the hardware store (where we'll buy the grill)
> and the plumber said that's the preferred way. But I don't want to
> have a debate and natural gas versus propane tanks. I want to know
> about an infrared grill - is that what you've gotten?
>
> -S-

Update - we bought a used 3-burner Weber from craiglist for $125 earlier
today (it was hooked up, watched it start so we know it works), now
waiting for the plumber to hook up a natural gas line outside the house
for us. Spent another $50 for a cover. Will try keeping it on the edge
of the back lawn, on the grass, since that's what our next door
neighbors tell us they did for years - no need for a
patio/concrete/pavers for it to rest on.

-S-

On 5/25/2014 12:25 PM, Steve Freides wrote:

> Update - we bought a used 3-burner Weber from craiglist for $125 earlier
> today (it was hooked up, watched it start so we know it works), now
> waiting for the plumber to hook up a natural gas line outside the house
> for us. Spent another $50 for a cover. Will try keeping it on the edge
> of the back lawn, on the grass, since that's what our next door
> neighbors tell us they did for years - no need for a
> patio/concrete/pavers for it to rest on.

Sounds like a good deal. Enjoy! My problem with the old grill was that I
got lazy about putting the cover on. I'm not making that mistake with my
new one.

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Cheryl

Have a pal who bought one of those. He really likes it. Good choice.

On 5/25/2014 3:58 PM, Cheryl wrote:

>
> Sounds like a good deal. Enjoy! My problem with the old grill was that I
> got lazy about putting the cover on. I'm not making that mistake with my
> new one.
>

I had one of the original Vermont Casting grills. Cooked great, looked
good as it was porcelain coated steel. Kept it covered all the time
when not in use. Figured it would last forever. The day the drip pan
fell down I saw it rusted at all the bolt holes.

My Weber Summit is stainless steel so I'm hoping for better long term
results.