have the stove near the sink or the fridge? I was looking at real estate sites today - and one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink, with a big island in between.

On 5/19/2014 10:39 PM, Kalmia Kalima wrote:
> have the stove near the sink or the fridge? I was looking at real estate sites today - and one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink, with a big island in between.
>

Interesting question. I think I would rather have the stove near the
sink. If you need to drain pasta, or add water to a pot, or similar
things, having the two near each other means less work, and is probably
safer, since you don't have to transport hot things too far.

With the island, you could unload what you need for a meal from the
fridge at the beginning, and have it handy as you prepare, so that
having the fridge close is not so important.

Personally, my kitchen is so small that it doesn't matter, but I'd love
to have a kitchen where it did.

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:39:59 PM UTC+10, Kalmia wrote:
> have the stove near the sink or the fridge? I was looking at real estate sites today - and one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink, with a big island in between.

You want the stove to be close to countertop space, fridge + cupboards with stuff that will go straight into pot or pan (e.g., soy sauce), and sink. But the one you want best access to is sink (like Travis says above). Island between stove and sink would suck.

On Mon, 19 May 2014 22:57:29 -0400, Travis McGee
> wrote:


>> one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink, with a big island in between.

>Interesting question. I think I would rather have the stove near the
>sink. If you need to drain pasta, or add water to a pot, or similar
>things, having the two near each other means less work, and is probably
>safer, since you don't have to transport hot things too far.
In one of Rachael Ray's cooking shows, the sink was way at the left of
the set (as viewed by the audience). She was constantly having to lug
stuff back and forth between the sink and her stove top and work
surface. I remember thinking that was really dumb design on more than
one occasion.

--
Bob
www.kanyak.com

On Monday, May 19, 2014 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, Travis McGee wrote:
>
> Interesting question. I think I would rather have the stove near the
> sink.
>
> Personally, my kitchen is so small that it doesn't matter, but I'd love
> to have a kitchen where it did.
>
>
I agree with both statements. My stove is close to the sink in my cracker box kitchen, thankfully.

"Kalmia Kalima" > wrote in message
...
> have the stove near the sink or the fridge? I was looking at real estate
> sites today - and one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink,
> with a big island in between.

It doesn't really matter to me but I've never had an island either. In the
military housings that I've had, they didn't really do the triangle at all.
In one (an older home) the fridge was stand alone and far from either the
stove or sink. And the sink wasn't very near the stove.

Another one had the pantry with a piece of countertop (small) then the
stove, then the sink around the corner from that and a ways away, then a lot
more countertop, then the fridge. That was rather unhandy but I dealt with
it.

The last one had a huge kitchen and although there was no island, I had a
small table smack in the center that I often used for food prep. It was
only a folding table so not good for chopping on but great for making
chocolates or cold appetizers. In that one, I had the pantry, then a small
piece of countertop, then the fridge with the stove directly next to it and
the sink around the corner and a goodly ways away. Again, not so great but
since it was such a huge kitchen, I don't recall ever having any problems.

My smallest kitchen ever had the sink directly across from the stove with
the fridge right next to the stove. Only problem there was if a second
person tried to get into the kitchen. Heh.

I had two apartments with the perfect triangle. Galley type kitchens with
the sink and stove opposite and fridge very nearby

One apartment had the stove and fridge near each other and the sink far
around the corner. Not an ideal setup but it had a huge pantry and that
made up for a lot. I didn't have to keep a damned thing on the counter
there! Except for the mushrooms when I was growing them.

This kitchen isn't too bad of a setup except for the lack of pantry and good
cupboards and that it is just plain too small. Fridge is on one side, sink
on the other and stove between the two. Nothing is directly across from
anything else.

My ideal setup would be a huge kitchen with an island and a small sink on
the island plus a larger one elsewhere.

"Opinicus" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 19 May 2014 22:57:29 -0400, Travis McGee
> > wrote:
>
>
>>> one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink, with a big island in
>>> between.
>
>>Interesting question. I think I would rather have the stove near the
>>sink. If you need to drain pasta, or add water to a pot, or similar
>>things, having the two near each other means less work, and is probably
>>safer, since you don't have to transport hot things too far.
> In one of Rachael Ray's cooking shows, the sink was way at the left of
> the set (as viewed by the audience). She was constantly having to lug
> stuff back and forth between the sink and her stove top and work
> surface. I remember thinking that was really dumb design on more than
> one occasion.

I can't really imagine why you would need the fridge near the sink. I
usually take out whatever produce, set it on the counter then wash as I need
to. But... One of my husband's relatives has an odd kitchen. The room
itself is quite large but it only has cabinets along one wall and that is
where the sink and stove is. There is a free standing cabinet of some sort
as you come in the door and that holds dishes. But... The fridge sits at
an angle in the corner, way far away from everything! To get to it, you
have to go around the table which is in the middle of the room. I don't
think I'd like that at all.

In article >,
Kalmia Kalima > wrote:

> have the stove near the sink or the fridge? I was looking at real estate
> sites today - and one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink, with a
> big island in between.

Near the sink. I have a pretty big "L" shaped island with the stove
carved into it, just across from the sink. You pack stuff from the
fridge. You use the stove and the sink. But you knew that ;-)

leo

On Mon, 19 May 2014 19:39:59 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia Kalima
> wrote:

>have the stove near the sink or the fridge? I was looking at real estate sites today - and one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink, with a big island in between.


You'll learn to really hate it in a short time. A cousin had a setup
like that and hated it every meal prep.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Opinicus" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 19 May 2014 22:57:29 -0400, Travis McGee
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink, with a big island
>>>> in between.
>>
>>>Interesting question. I think I would rather have the stove near the
>>>sink. If you need to drain pasta, or add water to a pot, or similar
>>>things, having the two near each other means less work, and is probably
>>>safer, since you don't have to transport hot things too far.
>> In one of Rachael Ray's cooking shows, the sink was way at the left of
>> the set (as viewed by the audience). She was constantly having to lug
>> stuff back and forth between the sink and her stove top and work
>> surface. I remember thinking that was really dumb design on more than
>> one occasion.
>
> I can't really imagine why you would need the fridge near the sink. I
> usually take out whatever produce, set it on the counter then wash as I
> need to. But... One of my husband's relatives has an odd kitchen. The
> room itself is quite large but it only has cabinets along one wall and
> that is where the sink and stove is. There is a free standing cabinet of
> some sort as you come in the door and that holds dishes. But... The
> fridge sits at an angle in the corner, way far away from everything! To
> get to it, you have to go around the table which is in the middle of the
> room. I don't think I'd like that at all.

Perhaps another sink could be put in the island?

On Mon, 19 May 2014 22:57:29 -0400, Travis McGee
> wrote:

>
>Personally, my kitchen is so small that it doesn't matter, but I'd love
>to have a kitchen where it did.

If it had a good layout you'd love it.
You'd find that a small efficient kitchen is much better than a large
kitchen if the layout is spread out too much.

On 5/19/2014 10:39 PM, Kalmia Kalima wrote:
> have the stove near the sink or the fridge? I was looking at
> real estate sites today - and one setup had the stove about a
> mile from the sink, with a big island in between.

There's a good reason for the kitchen triangle, with
the sum of the sides not exceeding a certain number
of feet. Certainly an island in the middle cutting off
the sink/refrigerator/oven isn't ideal.

I've seen kitchens with those long islands. Seems like
a long way to go just to leave the kitchen, never mind if
you just want a cup of water.

nancy

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
news
> On Mon, 19 May 2014 22:57:29 -0400, Travis McGee
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>Personally, my kitchen is so small that it doesn't matter, but I'd love
>>to have a kitchen where it did.
>
> If it had a good layout you'd love it.
> You'd find that a small efficient kitchen is much better than a large
> kitchen if the layout is spread out too much.

The main problems I had when I had the really tiny kitchen were lack of
storage space and lack of counter space. I had one of those old metal units
with the built in sink. There was a small piece of counter on either side
but that was really only good for washing dishes.

Alongside this until was a piece of counter (no cabinets) that was rather
small. I didn't measure it but it would hold two standard sized cooling
racks and not much else.

I baked a lot of cookies in those days. I did have a large table in the
dining area (not a formal area) alongside the kitchen so I really had to
make use of that a lot. But...

The real problem came into play if I needed to use several small appliances
that needed to be plugged in. As it was an old kitchen, I didn't have a lot
of outlets. There was one on the stove top and another on the small piece
of counter. But I remember trying to make breakfast once using my waffle
iron and griddle. I must not have had a suitable pan in those years as I
was using the griddle to cook whatever meat I made that day. Both of those
appliances took up the entire counter along with the bowl of waffle batter
and utensils. I had no place to set the plates!

Luckily, most of the time when I lived there, I did very little cooking for
other people. I did have a lot of parties but was able to do whatever
cooking ahead of time. And I once made a pot of chili and probably some
cornbread. But I was mostly cooking for myself and I didn't do a lot of
that as I was going out to eat for many of my meals.

My neighbor had lived in that apartment prior though. She had built the
building some 50 years prior. She raised two kids in that apartment and had
a husband there too. There was only one bathroom and it was by far the
smallest I have ever seen. Claw footed tub with no shower and toilet
extending underneath the wall sink. I had people get stuck on that toilet
and they couldn't figure out how to get off of it. It did take some doing.
You couldn't just sit down. You have to maneuver yourself carefully.

On Mon, 19 May 2014 19:39:59 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia Kalima
> wrote:

>have the stove near the sink or the fridge?

Stove near the sink.

On 5/20/2014 7:29 AM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Mon, 19 May 2014 19:39:59 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia Kalima
> > wrote:
>
>> have the stove near the sink or the fridge?
>
> Stove near the sink.
>
I suppose it would help if there was a potfiller at the
stove. Still not ideal.

nancy

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:13:40 AM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
> There's a good reason for the kitchen triangle, with
>
> the sum of the sides not exceeding a certain number
>
> of feet.

Ha - my first kitchen had sink, stove and fridge in a straight line - no triangle THERE, baby. What stunk was that foot of counter twixt sink and stove, and about two more steps to fridge.

I'll have to measure off my current triangle - it's not a bad layout, as I have a Sahara of countertop.

On 5/19/2014 10:39 PM, Kalmia Kalima wrote:
> have the stove near the sink or the fridge? I was looking at real estate sites today - and one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink, with a big island in between.
>
The kitchen in my apartment in west TN was small but very functional.
Stove on one wall, the sink a step away to the right, the fridge across
from the stove. It could have stood more counter-space, but I was told
when the apartments were built they were designed for "young singles" or
roomates who didn't do much cooking.

My current kitchen has the fridge next to the stove. Not right next to
it, there's a small counter with deep storage drawers between the fridge
and the stove. The sink is on the other side of the kitchen. Yes, I
have to walk around the island to get to it. The island is purely
storage and extra prep space. I've adjusted, but it's not the ideal setup.

Seems to me most kitchens are designed by people who don't cook. The
only way around that is to build your own house with your ideal kitchen
layout, or do a costly kitchen remodel of an existing one.

Jill

Kalmia Kalima wrote:
>have the stove near the sink or the fridge?
>I was looking at real estate sites today - and
>one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink,
>with a big island in between.

I see no purpose for a kitchen island unless it contains both a sink
and stove, or it's a cart (has wheels). My kitchen was built some 60
years ago and its layout doesn't get more perfect.
http://i58.tinypic.com/mx0os4.jpg
http://i60.tinypic.com/fdr9sg.jpg

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:28:45 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> I see no purpose for a kitchen island unless it contains both a sink
> and stove, or it's a cart (has wheels). My kitchen was built some 60
> years ago and its layout doesn't get more perfect.
>
> http://i58.tinypic.com/mx0os4.jpg
>
> http://i60.tinypic.com/fdr9sg.jpg
>
>
My kitchen is laid out just like yours Sheldon; stove next to a door. It's not nearly as big as yours and no dishwasher either but functional but could stand more counter and storage space.

In article >,
says...

> You'd find that a small efficient kitchen is much better than a large
> kitchen if the layout is spread out too much.

+1.

On 5/19/2014 9:39 PM, Kalmia Kalima wrote:
> have the stove near the sink or the fridge? I was looking at real estate sites today - and one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink, with a big island in between.
>

The stove has to be close to the sink.

I have yards of counter space in my kitchen and the most used spot is a
strip about 18" wide between the stove and the sink. That's where I do
99% of my prep work. I can wash a veggie in the sink, chop it at the
work space and dump it right from the chopping board into the pan.

That configuration allowed me to be able to continue cooking with my
broken knee cap.

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On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:28:45 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Kalmia Kalima wrote:
>
> >have the stove near the sink or the fridge?
>
> >I was looking at real estate sites today - and
>
> >one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink,
>
> >with a big island in between.
>
>
>
> I see no purpose for a kitchen island unless it contains both a sink
>
> and stove, or it's a cart (has wheels).
> http://i58.tinypic.com/mx0os4.jpg
>
> http://i60.tinypic.com/fdr9sg.jpg

Nah - this was a waterless island. House was listed at 775K, so it was all designed for space and show. A real cook would get some miles in dodging that island to reach the fridge.

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:28:45 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Kalmia Kalima wrote:
>
> >have the stove near the sink or the fridge?
>
> >I was looking at real estate sites today - and
>
> >one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink,
>
> >with a big island in between.
>
>
>
> I see no purpose for a kitchen island unless it contains both a sink
>
> and stove, or it's a cart (has wheels). My kitchen was built some 60
>
> years ago and its layout doesn't get more perfect.
>
> http://i58.tinypic.com/mx0os4.jpg
>
> http://i60.tinypic.com/fdr9sg.jpg

I know some will object but Cat in shot makes it all so homey. Can we get another shot so we can see where the fridge is?

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:36:01 AM UTC-4, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 5/19/2014 9:39 PM, Kalmia Kalima wrote:
>
> > have the stove near the sink or the fridge? I was looking at real estate sites today - and one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink, with a big island in between.
>
> >
>
>
>
> The stove has to be close to the sink.
>
>
>
> I have yards of counter space in my kitchen and the most used spot is a
>
> strip about 18" wide between the stove and the sink. That's where I do
>
> 99% of my prep work. I can wash a veggie in the sink, chop it at the
>
> work space and dump it right from the chopping board into the pan.

Mine is the same way. I have a mile of counterspace I never use - it's too far from stove and sink, plus has NO elec. outlets ( dumb design, I know.)

On Tue, 20 May 2014 10:52:40 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:28:45 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Kalmia Kalima wrote:
>>
>> >have the stove near the sink or the fridge?
>>
>> >I was looking at real estate sites today - and
>>
>> >one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink,
>>
>> >with a big island in between.
>>
>>
>>
>> I see no purpose for a kitchen island unless it contains both a sink
>>
>> and stove, or it's a cart (has wheels). My kitchen was built some 60
>>
>> years ago and its layout doesn't get more perfect.
>>
>> http://i58.tinypic.com/mx0os4.jpg
>>
>> http://i60.tinypic.com/fdr9sg.jpg
>
>I know some will object but Cat in shot makes it all so homey.
>Can we get another shot so we can see where the fridge is?

First picture shows the fridge... right at the end of that counter
makes it very handy for loading and unloading.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On Mon, 19 May 2014 22:57:29 -0400, Travis McGee
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >Personally, my kitchen is so small that it doesn't matter, but I'd love
> >to have a kitchen where it did.
>
> If it had a good layout you'd love it.
> You'd find that a small efficient kitchen is much better than a large
> kitchen if the layout is spread out too much.

My kitchen is a small walk-thru and I love it. I have fridge on one
end, 5' of counter space, then the stove on the other end. On the
other side, I have dishwasher and sink right next to it. Countertop is
2' over the dishwasher, then 3' on the other side of the sink. All of
that area has cabinets above and below. There is 38" walking space
between the two sides.

G.

Julie Bove wrote:
>

> toilet
> extending underneath the wall sink. I had people get stuck on that toilet
> and they couldn't figure out how to get off of it. It did take some doing.
> You couldn't just sit down. You have to maneuver yourself carefully.

LOL! There ya go again, Julie! hahaha

G. :-D

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:09:18 AM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:

> Seems to me most kitchens are designed by people who don't cook. The
>
> only way around that is to build your own house with your ideal kitchen
>
> layout, or do a costly kitchen remodel of an existing one.
>

Boy is that ever true. If you like to look at homes for sale online just look at the mammoth kitchens in the McMansions. Most of them are designed with no clue as to what it takes to really cook.

ImStillMags wrote:
>jmcquown wrote:
>
>>Seems to me most kitchens are designed by people who don't cook. The
>>only way around that is to build your own house with your ideal kitchen
>>layout, or do a costly kitchen remodel of an existing one.
>
>Boy is that ever true. If you like to look at homes for sale online just look
>at the mammoth kitchens in the McMansions. Most of them are designed
>with no clue as to what it takes to really cook.

With that much money you don't need to cook, just make reservations.

On 5/20/2014 4:24 PM, Gary wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 19 May 2014 22:57:29 -0400, Travis McGee
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Personally, my kitchen is so small that it doesn't matter, but I'd love
>>> to have a kitchen where it did.
>>
>> If it had a good layout you'd love it.
>> You'd find that a small efficient kitchen is much better than a large
>> kitchen if the layout is spread out too much.
>
> My kitchen is a small walk-thru and I love it. I have fridge on one
> end, 5' of counter space, then the stove on the other end. On the
> other side, I have dishwasher and sink right next to it. Countertop is
> 2' over the dishwasher, then 3' on the other side of the sink. All of
> that area has cabinets above and below. There is 38" walking space
> between the two sides.
>
> G.
>
My kitchen is also small. It would have been rectangular but a custom
set of cabinets with a countertop was added to one wall, so it's more L
shaped now. I do most of my work on the smaller of the countertops
because it's between the sink and the fridge. The dishwasher is between
the range and the sink, with another countertop over the dishwasher. I
don't use that for prep much as there's usually dishes drying there.

I used to want a kitchen big enough to have a small table in it, but I
doubt I'd use it now. I'm happy with the setup of my kitchen.

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On 5/20/2014 12:54 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:36:01 AM UTC-4, Janet Wilder wrote:
>> On 5/19/2014 9:39 PM, Kalmia Kalima wrote:
>>
>>> have the stove near the sink or the fridge? I was looking at real estate sites today - and one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink, with a big island in between.
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The stove has to be close to the sink.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have yards of counter space in my kitchen and the most used spot is a
>>
>> strip about 18" wide between the stove and the sink. That's where I do
>>
>> 99% of my prep work. I can wash a veggie in the sink, chop it at the
>>
>> work space and dump it right from the chopping board into the pan.
>
> Mine is the same way. I have a mile of counterspace I never use - it's too far from stove and sink, plus has NO elec. outlets ( dumb design, I know.)
>

I have tons of outlets. I do use another spot for my Kitchen Aide mixer
and another spot with lots of close counter space for the Cuisinart.
There is also plenty of room and an outlet for the slow cooker and for
an electric skillet. I have tons of counter space.

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On Tue, 20 May 2014 07:43:28 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 5/20/2014 7:29 AM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 May 2014 19:39:59 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia Kalima
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> have the stove near the sink or the fridge?
>>
>> Stove near the sink.
>>
>I suppose it would help if there was a potfiller at the
>stove. Still not ideal.

Yeah. Still, I'd rather my stove was closer to the sink than fridge -
dirty pots and pans are closer to the sink and the fridge isn't being
adversely affected by the stove quite so much (combustion stove is hot
and we are off the grid, so need to watch power consumption)

I have benches on 3 of the 4 sides of the room and the layout works
well for me, plenty of bench space next to the stove. I have a large
rectangular dining table in the middle of my kitchen and to be honest,
I do most of my preparation on there. Works well for me like that -
being an arms reach from the stove and fridge from the table - albeit
on opposite corners of the table.

On Tue, 20 May 2014 10:54:13 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:36:01 AM UTC-4, Janet Wilder wrote:
>> On 5/19/2014 9:39 PM, Kalmia Kalima wrote:
>>
>> > have the stove near the sink or the fridge? I was looking at real estate sites today - and one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink, with a big island in between.
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> The stove has to be close to the sink.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have yards of counter space in my kitchen and the most used spot is a
>>
>> strip about 18" wide between the stove and the sink. That's where I do
>>
>> 99% of my prep work. I can wash a veggie in the sink, chop it at the
>>
>> work space and dump it right from the chopping board into the pan.
>
>Mine is the same way. I have a mile of counterspace I never use - it's too far from stove and sink, plus has NO elec. outlets ( dumb design, I know.)

My kitchen is much like that - I have miles of bench space but I use
very little of it for preparation, almost always in the same spot or
on my dining table in the centre of the kitchen.

On Tue, 20 May 2014 14:17:49 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:09:18 AM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Seems to me most kitchens are designed by people who don't cook. The
>>
>> only way around that is to build your own house with your ideal kitchen
>>
>> layout, or do a costly kitchen remodel of an existing one.
>>
>
>Boy is that ever true. If you like to look at homes for sale online just look at the mammoth kitchens in the McMansions. Most of them are designed with no clue as to what it takes to really cook.

I doubt anyone who buys homes like that could care less, as long as it
looks both expensive and good to them.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>> toilet
>> extending underneath the wall sink. I had people get stuck on that
>> toilet
>> and they couldn't figure out how to get off of it. It did take some
>> doing.
>> You couldn't just sit down. You have to maneuver yourself carefully.
>
> LOL! There ya go again, Julie! hahaha
>
> G. :-D

Well, the rent was cheap! $250 a month and they never raised it. I lived
there for several years.

On 5/20/2014 9:28 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Kalmia Kalima wrote:
>> have the stove near the sink or the fridge?
>> I was looking at real estate sites today - and
>> one setup had the stove about a mile from the sink,
>> with a big island in between.
>
> I see no purpose for a kitchen island unless it contains both a sink
> and stove, or it's a cart (has wheels). My kitchen was built some 60
> years ago and its layout doesn't get more perfect.
> http://i58.tinypic.com/mx0os4.jpg
> http://i60.tinypic.com/fdr9sg.jpg
>

My last house was similar and very efficient. We had 21 feet of counter
top and nothing was more than a few steps.

On 5/20/2014 6:13 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 5/19/2014 10:39 PM, Kalmia Kalima wrote:
>> have the stove near the sink or the fridge? I was looking at
> > real estate sites today - and one setup had the stove about a
> > mile from the sink, with a big island in between.
>
> There's a good reason for the kitchen triangle, with
> the sum of the sides not exceeding a certain number
> of feet. Certainly an island in the middle cutting off
> the sink/refrigerator/oven isn't ideal.
>
> I've seen kitchens with those long islands. Seems like
> a long way to go just to leave the kitchen, never mind if
> you just want a cup of water.
>
> nancy
>

The 'triangle' concept is nice Oh well, I'd have to win the lottery
in the first place to get that arrangement - and I'm still holding my
breath .... 1 .... 2 ..... 3 - er !!! LOL

Sky, whose face isn't blue, yet ! hehehe

On 5/20/2014 7:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> toilet
>>> extending underneath the wall sink. I had people get stuck on that
>>> toilet
>>> and they couldn't figure out how to get off of it. It did take some
>>> doing.
>>> You couldn't just sit down. You have to maneuver yourself carefully.
>>
>> LOL! There ya go again, Julie! hahaha
>>
>> G. :-D
>
> Well, the rent was cheap! $250 a month and they never raised it. I
> lived there for several years.

er, right - that's a statement of truth - er, yeah , right - yeah !!!
er, does anyone wanna buy some tickets to the loo lottery?

Sky , who just could not resist - it's too much fun in this play-ground !

On 5/21/2014 6:25 AM, Sky wrote:
> On 5/20/2014 6:13 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> There's a good reason for the kitchen triangle, with
>> the sum of the sides not exceeding a certain number
>> of feet. Certainly an island in the middle cutting off
>> the sink/refrigerator/oven isn't ideal.
>>
>> I've seen kitchens with those long islands. Seems like
>> a long way to go just to leave the kitchen, never mind if
>> you just want a cup of water.

> The 'triangle' concept is nice Oh well, I'd have to win the lottery
> in the first place to get that arrangement - and I'm still holding my
> breath .... 1 .... 2 ..... 3 - er !!! LOL
>
> Sky, whose face isn't blue, yet ! hehehe

Breath!!!

Heh. You deal with what you have. Plenty of things I'd change
about my house but no amount of oxygen deprivation will fix that.

But I do have a decent kitchen triangle. Heh.

nancy

On Wed, 21 May 2014 08:24:46 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> But I do have a decent kitchen triangle. Heh.

I have a triangle, but it's too big. In the mean time, I've learned
to work with it and not have drip spots all over the floor.


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