"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/27/2014 6:08 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>> Last fall, I bought a bunch of pavers and lined the bottom of
>>> my compost. I did it because roots were growing into it and it
>>> was a hassle to clean it out.
>>>
>>> My reward ... nothing at all happened to the leaves, etc I put in
>>> there last fall. Nada. Bummer. Got rid of the pavers.
>>
>> My bins are bottomless and I get worms coming up into it from the soil.
>
> I think that's where I lost out.
>
>> Have you tried a compost accelerator? That might kill those roots.
>
> I do buy compost 'heat' once in a while. Think I need to get
> some more.

Well if you don't have the slabs (I totally understand why you bought them)
you will probably get your 'black gold' again)


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On 5/27/2014 8:12 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/27/2014 7:45 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 5/27/2014 1:21 PM, Janet wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bear in mind that decomposition relies on temperature and climate
>>>> and
>>>> the climate in Scotland is nothing like Hawaii.
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>>
>>>
>>> British Isles and Hawaiian Islands. Should be identical climate since
>>> they are both islands.
>>
>> We're the real islands. They're just pretending to be islands.
>
> Oi! Flippin' cheek)
>

He he, imagine your land mass one-tenth it's size. One half of that can
go to England, the remainder gets divided into 3 islands so Wales,
Scotland and Northern Ireland can get an island of their own. You guys
might like that. I don't know. Perhaps we can trade land masses. Here's
our state flag.

http://www.50states.com/flag/hiflag.htm#.U4TqN_ldXjE

dsi1 wrote:
>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> If it stinks it's not producing compost so much as it's fermenting.
>> The aroma of a properly functioning composter is the same as the deep
>> woods aroma of a virgin forest.
>>
>I did not know there was a difference between rotting and fermenting.
>Rotting definitely seems to be the route to go.

I didn't know you can't read with comprehension.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/27/2014 8:12 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/27/2014 7:45 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 5/27/2014 1:21 PM, Janet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bear in mind that decomposition relies on temperature and climate
>>>>> and
>>>>> the climate in Scotland is nothing like Hawaii.
>>>>>
>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> British Isles and Hawaiian Islands. Should be identical climate since
>>>> they are both islands.
>>>
>>> We're the real islands. They're just pretending to be islands.
>>
>> Oi! Flippin' cheek)
>>
>
> He he, imagine your land mass one-tenth it's size. One half of that can go
> to England, the remainder gets divided into 3 islands so Wales, Scotland
> and Northern Ireland can get an island of their own. You guys might like
> that. I don't know. Perhaps we can trade land masses. Here's our state
> flag.

Still surrounded by water though ... ;-)

> http://www.50states.com/flag/hiflag.htm#.U4TqN_ldXjE

Nice flag) Tell me about it?


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On 5/27/2014 3:36 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>>> My bins are bottomless and I get worms coming up into it from the soil.
>>
>> I think that's where I lost out.
>>
>>> Have you tried a compost accelerator? That might kill those roots.
>>
>> I do buy compost 'heat' once in a while. Think I need to get
>> some more.
>
> Well if you don't have the slabs (I totally understand why you bought them)
> you will probably get your 'black gold' again)

I really missed it this year.

Last year the compost was absolutely teeming with worms. Nothing
that I can see this spring, and I shoveled out the whole bin and
forked it back in. Oh, well.

nancy

On 5/27/2014 10:59 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>> If it stinks it's not producing compost so much as it's fermenting.
>>> The aroma of a properly functioning composter is the same as the deep
>>> woods aroma of a virgin forest.
>>>
>> I did not know there was a difference between rotting and fermenting.
>> Rotting definitely seems to be the route to go.
>
> I didn't know you can't read with comprehension.
>

Thank you, I appreciate your kind words.

On 2014-05-27 3:27 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 5/27/2014 8:07 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> If it stinks it's not producing compost so much as it's fermenting.
>> The aroma of a properly functioning composter is the same as the deep
>> woods aroma of a virgin forest.
>>
> I did not know there was a difference between rotting and fermenting.
> Rotting definitely seems to be the route to go.


There is not much difference. Rotting in the breakdown of complex
components of organic matter into smaller components. Fermentation is
the breakdown one element of the matter, the sugar.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Tue, 27 May 2014 13:45:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > On 5/27/2014 1:21 PM, Janet wrote:
> >
> > > Bear in mind that decomposition relies on temperature and climate and
> > > the climate in Scotland is nothing like Hawaii.
> > >
> > > Janet UK
> > >
> >
> > British Isles and Hawaiian Islands. Should be identical climate since
> > they are both islands.
>
> Using that logic, Greenland and Iceland should be tropical too!

Have you never seen that film Penguins of the Caribbean?

Janet UK

On 5/27/2014 11:31 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> Nice flag) Tell me about it?
>
>
The King of Hawaii at the time the flag was designed, was friendly with
Great Britain. It's the only American state flag to have the Union Jack
incorporated into it. Just think about it - we could have been British
subjects. That would probably have been fine with us. :-)

On Tue, 27 May 2014 23:18:44 +0100, Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Tue, 27 May 2014 13:45:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >
> > > On 5/27/2014 1:21 PM, Janet wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bear in mind that decomposition relies on temperature and climate and
> > > > the climate in Scotland is nothing like Hawaii.
> > > >
> > > > Janet UK
> > > >
> > >
> > > British Isles and Hawaiian Islands. Should be identical climate since
> > > they are both islands.
> >
> > Using that logic, Greenland and Iceland should be tropical too!
>
> Have you never seen that film Penguins of the Caribbean?
>

No. Haven't heard of it either.



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On Tue, 27 May 2014 12:26:54 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Tue, 27 May 2014 13:45:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 5/27/2014 1:21 PM, Janet wrote:
>>
>> > Bear in mind that decomposition relies on temperature and climate and
>> > the climate in Scotland is nothing like Hawaii.
>> >
>> > Janet UK
>> >
>>
>> British Isles and Hawaiian Islands. Should be identical climate since
>> they are both islands.
>
>Using that logic, Greenland and Iceland should be tropical too!


Hawaii and Iceland both have active volcanoes. See, you can't tell
them apart. Like identical twins.

On Tue, 27 May 2014 18:55:49 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On Tue, 27 May 2014 12:26:54 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 27 May 2014 13:45:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >
> >> On 5/27/2014 1:21 PM, Janet wrote:
> >>
> >> > Bear in mind that decomposition relies on temperature and climate and
> >> > the climate in Scotland is nothing like Hawaii.
> >> >
> >> > Janet UK
> >> >
> >>
> >> British Isles and Hawaiian Islands. Should be identical climate since
> >> they are both islands.
> >
> >Using that logic, Greenland and Iceland should be tropical too!
>
>
> Hawaii and Iceland both have active volcanoes. See, you can't tell
> them apart. Like identical twins.


LOLOL!


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"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 27 May 2014 07:10:32 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>>On 5/27/2014 12:04 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Ace!! So, don't put your coffee grounds et al into the ground
>>> immediately, find a bottomless bin or section off a piece of your garden
>>> and create a heap. Throw all your peelings, coffee grounds etc onto it
>>> and eventually (not next week) you will have lovely compost to feed your
>>> plants)
>>>
>>> I prefer bins because it keeps it out of sight, I don't have to keep
>>> turning it and there is no smell.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I will keep this in mind for when I get a garden. I'll have to ask my
>>step-mom about this. My dad told me that she had a compost pile. He said
>>it stinks.
>
> If it stinks it's not producing compost so much as it's fermenting.
> The aroma of a properly functioning composter is the same as the deep
> woods aroma of a virgin forest.

My dad's compost pile smelled like cow pies. Our little dog would always
get in it and then I would have to bathe her. I don't think he did what he
was supposed to like turning it over. He just dumped stuff in there.
Mostly grass clippings.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/27/2014 11:31 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> Nice flag) Tell me about it?
>>
>>
> The King of Hawaii at the time the flag was designed, was friendly with
> Great Britain. It's the only American state flag to have the Union Jack
> incorporated into it. Just think about it - we could have been British
> subjects. That would probably have been fine with us. :-)

With us too)))))


>

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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/27/2014 3:36 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>>> My bins are bottomless and I get worms coming up into it from the soil.
>>>
>>> I think that's where I lost out.
>>>
>>>> Have you tried a compost accelerator? That might kill those roots.
>>>
>>> I do buy compost 'heat' once in a while. Think I need to get
>>> some more.
>>
>> Well if you don't have the slabs (I totally understand why you bought
>> them)
>> you will probably get your 'black gold' again)
>
> I really missed it this year.
>
> Last year the compost was absolutely teeming with worms. Nothing
> that I can see this spring, and I shoveled out the whole bin and
> forked it back in. Oh, well.

Hey! You tried, it didn't work - you won't do it again) Just think how
happy you will be next year)))

Incidentally, that was also a lesson for anyone who didn't know! They do
now))


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On 5/27/2014 11:32 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/27/2014 11:31 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Nice flag) Tell me about it?
>>>
>>>
>> The King of Hawaii at the time the flag was designed, was friendly
>> with Great Britain. It's the only American state flag to have the
>> Union Jack incorporated into it. Just think about it - we could have
>> been British subjects. That would probably have been fine with us. :-)
>
> With us too)))))
>
Better the Brits than the Spaniards or France, is what I always say. :-)

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/27/2014 11:32 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/27/2014 11:31 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nice flag) Tell me about it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The King of Hawaii at the time the flag was designed, was friendly
>>> with Great Britain. It's the only American state flag to have the
>>> Union Jack incorporated into it. Just think about it - we could have
>>> been British subjects. That would probably have been fine with us. :-)
>>
>> With us too)))))
>>
> Better the Brits than the Spaniards or France, is what I always say. :-)

But of course me old cock sparrer ))) You are always welcome to be one of
us if that is what you want)))



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On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 8:01:52 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On 5/27/2014 11:32 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>
> >> ...
>
> >>> On 5/27/2014 11:31 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> Nice flag) Tell me about it?
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>> The King of Hawaii at the time the flag was designed, was friendly
>
> >>> with Great Britain. It's the only American state flag to have the
>
> >>> Union Jack incorporated into it. Just think about it - we could have
>
> >>> been British subjects. That would probably have been fine with us. :-)
>
> >>
>
> >> With us too)))))
>
> >>
>
> > Better the Brits than the Spaniards or France, is what I always say. :-)
>
>
>
> But of course me old cock sparrer ))) You are always welcome to be one of
>
> us if that is what you want)))
>

I have no idea what a cock sparrer is but I like how you Brits have idioms that reak of Old Britannia and the days when Britian ruled the waves and Dicken's England. Our slang mostly goes about as far back as the beginning of the space and internet age.

I suspect that the security lady at the Manchester Airport might want to be one of us. I am of the belief that she kept my Hawaii driver's license. I saw her at the gate later on, accompanied by 2 officers wearing bullet-proof vests and carrying what looked to be AR-15s. So much for the notions that cops in the UK do not carry arms. It looked like something big was going down and that perhaps it was a bad time to bring up the matter of my drivers license. Well I sure hope she enjoys it.

>
>
>
>
>
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"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 8:01:52 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > On 5/27/2014 11:32 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>>
>> >> ...
>>
>> >>> On 5/27/2014 11:31 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>> Nice flag) Tell me about it?
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>> The King of Hawaii at the time the flag was designed, was friendly
>>
>> >>> with Great Britain. It's the only American state flag to have the
>>
>> >>> Union Jack incorporated into it. Just think about it - we could have
>>
>> >>> been British subjects. That would probably have been fine with us.
>> >>> :-)
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> With us too)))))
>>
>> >>
>>
>> > Better the Brits than the Spaniards or France, is what I always say.
>> > :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> But of course me old cock sparrer ))) You are always welcome to be one
>> of
>>
>> us if that is what you want)))
>>
>
> I have no idea what a cock sparrer is but I like how you Brits have idioms
> that reak of Old Britannia and the days when Britian ruled the waves and
> Dicken's England. Our slang mostly goes about as far back as the beginning
> of the space and internet age.

Just an affectionate London term

> I suspect that the security lady at the Manchester Airport might want to
> be one of us. I am of the belief that she kept my Hawaii driver's license.
> I saw her at the gate later on, accompanied by 2 officers wearing
> bullet-proof vests and carrying what looked to be AR-15s. So much for the
> notions that cops in the UK do not carry arms. It looked like something
> big was going down and that perhaps it was a bad time to bring up the
> matter of my drivers license. Well I sure hope she enjoys it.

That is normal at airports and they would have been MP3s not AR-15s Not
especially for you, or anything 'going down' )

All constabularies in the UK have armed support groups available and in some
cities they are permanently deployed on patrol. And then of course the
diplomatic protection group, which is a part of the metropolitan police in
London are always armed.


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On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:50:39 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 8:01:52 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> >> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>
> >>
>
> >> ...
>
> >>
>
> >> > On 5/27/2014 11:32 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> >> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>
> >>
>
> >> >> ...
>
> >>
>
> >> >>> On 5/27/2014 11:31 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> >>>>
>
> >>
>
> >> >>>>
>
> >>
>
> >> >>>> Nice flag) Tell me about it?
>
> >>
>
> >> >>>>
>
> >>
>
> >> >>>>
>
> >>
>
> >> >>> The King of Hawaii at the time the flag was designed, was friendly
>
> >>
>
> >> >>> with Great Britain. It's the only American state flag to have the
>
> >>
>
> >> >>> Union Jack incorporated into it. Just think about it - we could have
>
> >>
>
> >> >>> been British subjects. That would probably have been fine with us.
>
> >> >>> :-)
>
> >>
>
> >> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> >> With us too)))))
>
> >>
>
> >> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> > Better the Brits than the Spaniards or France, is what I always say.
>
> >> > :-)
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> But of course me old cock sparrer ))) You are always welcome to be one
>
> >> of
>
> >>
>
> >> us if that is what you want)))
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> > I have no idea what a cock sparrer is but I like how you Brits have idioms
>
> > that reak of Old Britannia and the days when Britian ruled the waves and
>
> > Dicken's England. Our slang mostly goes about as far back as the beginning
>
> > of the space and internet age.
>
>
>
> Just an affectionate London term
>
>
>
> > I suspect that the security lady at the Manchester Airport might want to
>
> > be one of us. I am of the belief that she kept my Hawaii driver's license.
>
> > I saw her at the gate later on, accompanied by 2 officers wearing
>
> > bullet-proof vests and carrying what looked to be AR-15s. So much for the
>
> > notions that cops in the UK do not carry arms. It looked like something
>
> > big was going down and that perhaps it was a bad time to bring up the
>
> > matter of my drivers license. Well I sure hope she enjoys it.
>
>
>
> That is normal at airports and they would have been MP3s not AR-15s Not
>
> especially for you, or anything 'going down' )

Thanks. Being in an unfamilar place with automatic wepons about makes me a little paranoid. Believe it or not, Americans are not used to seeing in-your-face displays like that. Maybe we will one day. Anyway, you got yourselves one heck of a country - congrats.

>
>
>
> All constabularies in the UK have armed support groups available and in some
>
> cities they are permanently deployed on patrol. And then of course the
>
> diplomatic protection group, which is a part of the metropolitan police in
>
> London are always armed.
>
>
>
>
>
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"dsi1" > wrote in message
...

>> That is normal at airports and they would have been MP3s not AR-15s
>> Not
>>
>> especially for you, or anything 'going down' )
>
> Thanks. Being in an unfamilar place with automatic wepons about makes me a
> little paranoid. Believe it or not, Americans are not used to seeing
> in-your-face displays like that.

That is a surprise!

>Maybe we will one day. Anyway, you got yourselves one heck of a country -
>congrats.

Thank you

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On 5/28/2014 5:45 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" > wrote
>
>>> That is normal at airports and they would have been MP3s not AR-15s
>>> Not
>>>
>>> especially for you, or anything 'going down' )
>>
>> Thanks. Being in an unfamilar place with automatic wepons about makes
>> me a little paranoid. Believe it or not, Americans are not used to
>> seeing in-your-face displays like that.
>
> That is a surprise!
>
The only time I've seen that sort of thing at a US airport, was the week
after the attack on the WTC.

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/28/2014 5:45 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" > wrote
>>
>>>> That is normal at airports and they would have been MP3s not AR-15s
>>>> Not
>>>>
>>>> especially for you, or anything 'going down' )
>>>
>>> Thanks. Being in an unfamilar place with automatic wepons about makes
>>> me a little paranoid. Believe it or not, Americans are not used to
>>> seeing in-your-face displays like that.
>>
>> That is a surprise!
>>
> The only time I've seen that sort of thing at a US airport, was the week
> after the attack on the WTC.

Oh my!

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